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(Politico)   Expert at Johns Hopkins says a Covid-19 vaccine is "possible" by the end of the year just like it's possible Subby will have a threesome with Scarlett Johansson and Amy Adams by the end of the year, but, in both cases "don't bank on it"   (politico.com) divider line
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2020-05-18 11:20:55 AM  
Subby it's possible you might be the last three people alive the way this year is going
 
2020-05-18 11:45:21 AM  
FTFA: Todd asked Inglesby what to expect in the summer months. Inglesby said it depends on how careful people are.

"I mean, the future really is in our hands," Inglesby said.


Translation: We're screwed.
 
2020-05-18 11:51:32 AM  
Oh, I don't know, threesomes with Scarlett Johansson and Amy Adams have been in my (spank) bank for years now...
 
2020-05-18 12:44:21 PM  
Subby, I'm pretty sure the chances of a vaccine being created this year is exponentially greater than your fantasy ménage à trois.
 
2020-05-18 1:11:49 PM  
Let me ask my wife, Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
 
2020-05-18 2:51:18 PM  

Jake Havechek: Let me ask my wife, Mary Elizabeth Winstead.


ha ha... your wife is taller than you.
 
2020-05-18 2:51:37 PM  
It's possible that out of all the Trumpkins, one might actually act like a human being. But it's not likely and I won't farking hold my breath.
 
2020-05-18 2:52:49 PM  
Missed out on a few key words, Subby:

"But I wouldn't bank on it."
 
2020-05-18 2:53:45 PM  
I saw a headline that a Gates backed home test was kiboshed by dumpy and friends. So what happens when a Soros or Gates backed effort looks like it will pay off?

We all know the answer.
 
2020-05-18 2:55:04 PM  
Trump will announce a cure before November whether it exists or not.
 
2020-05-18 2:56:37 PM  
Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete​c​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html
 
2020-05-18 2:56:52 PM  
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2020-05-18 2:56:55 PM  
I think Amy Adams could do better than Scarlett Johansson.  God, I hope what I said doesn't get back to her.
 
2020-05-18 2:57:05 PM  

DarnoKonrad: Trump will announce a cure before November whether it exists or not.


Trump has already announced a couple of non-existent cures.
 
2020-05-18 2:57:42 PM  

DarnoKonrad: Trump will announce a cure before November whether it exists or not.


And Trump will call it "Silver Gold Solution".
 
2020-05-18 2:58:47 PM  
I'm cautiously optimistic on that.  It's Johns Hopkins.  They're not salesmen.  But with any project, something will go wrong.  And it will be a while before you get one unless you're old or a healthcare worker.
 
2020-05-18 3:00:44 PM  
They've been saying from the beginning that a vaccine takes 12-18 months. "End of the year" is 12 months from when the disease first started spreading, so I'm not sure why you think it's such a 'Gotcha!', subby...
 
2020-05-18 3:00:57 PM  
At least with Johansson we have Fappening pics.
 
2020-05-18 3:01:18 PM  

Bungles: Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html


Well now I doubt the existence of both the vaccine and the monkeys who caught the coronavirus.
 
2020-05-18 3:02:37 PM  
While some public health experts, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, have said it would be at least 12 to 18 months before a vaccine is ready, President Trump and Azar have put forth a more optimistic timeline of January 2021 for the entire U.S. population to begin receiving a vaccine.

"What we're doing is wringing the inefficiency out of the development process to make the development side faster to get to a safe and effective vaccine," Azar said Sunday. "And at the same time, we're going to scale up commercial-sized manufacturing to produce hundreds of millions of doses at risk. They may not pan out. They might not prove to be safe and effective, but we'll have it so we can begin administration right away."


We are gonna have a vaccine and will be administering it in 7 months whether it works or not no matter how dangerous it is. I mean, what's the worst that can happen?
 
2020-05-18 3:03:54 PM  

40 degree day: Bungles: Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html

Well now I doubt the existence of both the vaccine and the monkeys who caught the coronavirus.



Yes, I apologise for the source, but it doesn't seem to have been widely reported yet, outside TV - it's breaking news in the UK.
 
2020-05-18 3:04:12 PM  
If I was in a betting mood and had to pick between all of the medical researchers on the planet managing to find a cure and Subby scoring the described threesome before year end....

I'm not sure which I'd go with...

...Really smart medical researchers... lots of them... with money being thrown at them to try every imaginable hairbrained idea short of injecting bleach to stop this virus to save everyone's life, but at the same time validating a Trump statement that there'd be a cure by year end...

...Subby... unknown... actresses with standards...

I'm going to use my $20 to light a cigar instead
 
2020-05-18 3:04:36 PM  
It doesn't have to immunize everyone that gets it. It just has to be "good enough"

But it can't really cause complications that end up killing people. That's the rub.
 
2020-05-18 3:06:50 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: I think Amy Adams could do better than Scarlett Johansson.  God, I hope what I said doesn't get back to her.


Both are excellent choices.

Too bad neither have ever done anything goth-emo-punk-alternative.
 
2020-05-18 3:13:46 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: Todd asked Inglesby what to expect in the summer months. Inglesby said it depends on how careful people are.

"I mean, the future really is in our hands," Inglesby said.

Translation: We're screwed.


Yup.

Here in B.C. parks have re-opened for day use. May 27th they start taking reservations again (for campgrounds, cabins at the lake, etc) and June 1st you can stay overnight in parks again. That's going to be the acid test. Someone will think "Well I just have a little cough. It's probably all the pollen", go to the cabin at the lake, not socially distance and bam.

Schools re-open June 1st but it's alternating days for K - 5 and one day a week for 6 - 12. All completely voluntary.

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That part scares me the most. If a student has an immediate family member that has Covid-19 they can still come to school. What a brilliant farking idea. o_O

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Meanwhile in Quebec... welcome to pénitentiaire... sorry I mean École.
 
2020-05-18 3:21:36 PM  
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2020-05-18 3:22:12 PM  
John Hopkins, uh huh, vaccine, uh huh, possible, uh huh.

Subby having threesome w/ Scarlett Johansson and Amy Adams. Well subby I for one want to hear more of your potential threesome. And would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

/ something something vaccine might be nice too.
 
2020-05-18 3:25:32 PM  

Bungles: 40 degree day: Bungles: Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html

Well now I doubt the existence of both the vaccine and the monkeys who caught the coronavirus.


Yes, I apologise for the source, but it doesn't seem to have been widely reported yet, outside TV - it's breaking news in the UK.


Here's a decent summary from sciencemag.org

The jist of it is that the Oxford vaccine only prevented infection in a few of the vaccinated monkeys, hoever, none of the vaccinated monkeys developed pneumonia versus 2/3 of the unvaccinated ones, so it did seem to moderate the effects of the disease.

The Moderna and Sinovac vaccines in comparison seem to be more effective at inhibiting infection, however those trials are in earlier stages.
 
2020-05-18 3:35:25 PM  
Subby seems to be one of the many Farkers who have a vested interest in dismissing any potential good news about vaccines, falling infection rates and decreasing numbers of hospitalizations age deaths.   Is it that you just need to have people join you in your lonely misery?
 
2020-05-18 3:37:19 PM  

ChiliBoots: Bungles: 40 degree day: Bungles: Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html

Well now I doubt the existence of both the vaccine and the monkeys who caught the coronavirus.


Yes, I apologise for the source, but it doesn't seem to have been widely reported yet, outside TV - it's breaking news in the UK.

Here's a decent summary from sciencemag.org

The jist of it is that the Oxford vaccine only prevented infection in a few of the vaccinated monkeys, hoever, none of the vaccinated monkeys developed pneumonia versus 2/3 of the unvaccinated ones, so it did seem to moderate the effects of the disease.

The Moderna and Sinovac vaccines in comparison seem to be more effective at inhibiting infection, however those trials are in earlier stages.



Does that mean it's not technically a vaccine - in the sense of lowering chance of infection - but possibly a solid prophylactic treatment?
 
2020-05-18 3:37:49 PM  

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2020-05-18 3:39:14 PM  
What was the vaccine that showed enough promise that they are actually manufacturing it now in anticipation of it being approved?  Was it the Oxford?  I don't remember, but I saw it on the news in the last few weeks.

That being said, even if THAT particular vaccine WAS approved, I recall they said they could only get about 1 million doses ready by end of year 2020.  Part of that was because they relied on vials and other bits that were manufactured in China.
And they are making it NOW.
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2020-05-18 3:41:15 PM  
Dear Penthouse, I was at this awards ceremony the other night. I didn't think things like this could happen to me
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2020-05-18 3:41:21 PM  

ChiliBoots: Bungles: 40 degree day: Bungles: Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html

Well now I doubt the existence of both the vaccine and the monkeys who caught the coronavirus.


Yes, I apologise for the source, but it doesn't seem to have been widely reported yet, outside TV - it's breaking news in the UK.

Here's a decent summary from sciencemag.org

The jist of it is that the Oxford vaccine only prevented infection in a few of the vaccinated monkeys, hoever, none of the vaccinated monkeys developed pneumonia versus 2/3 of the unvaccinated ones, so it did seem to moderate the effects of the disease.

The Moderna and Sinovac vaccines in comparison seem to be more effective at inhibiting infection, however those trials are in earlier stages.


Any one know how the Pfizer ones are doing? They were human testing 4 different ones few weeks ago and were asking to be allowed a few thousand humans to test on later in the summer earlier this week.
 
2020-05-18 3:41:59 PM  

Bungles: 40 degree day: Bungles: Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html

Well now I doubt the existence of both the vaccine and the monkeys who caught the coronavirus.


Yes, I apologise for the source, but it doesn't seem to have been widely reported yet, outside TV - it's breaking news in the UK.


I found a couple sources. Basically, the vaccinated monkeys still got infected. There is some very limited evidence that the vaccine had a protective effect (lower disease severity), but the study is far too small to say. Under normal circumstances this vaccine candidate probably wouldn't be good enough to push forward, but in a pandemic they are willing to take more risks and go ahead with human trials anyway.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamh​a​seltine/2020/05/16/did-the-oxford-covi​d-vaccine-work-in-monkeys-not-really/

https://www.newsweek.com/covid-19-vac​c​ine-u-k-1504841
 
2020-05-18 3:42:59 PM  

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I know it's a joke, but some of these people really believe that a coordinated effort to save people's lives is the same thing as the coordinated effort to allow millions to die in order to prop up the state.

They're opening up parts of Michigan's upper peninsula and people who have been complaining about the lock-down are now complaining about how people from the lower peninsula are going to travel to the upper peninsula to infect them all.  Still, others are saying we should open up more and let each county make it's own decision.

Truly it is better to die on your feet of a virus induced blood clot than to not get a haircut and a cheeseburger in a restaurant booth.
 
2020-05-18 3:49:56 PM  
Subby's doctorate in immunology comes from Trump U.

GO EARWIGS!
 
2020-05-18 3:51:23 PM  

Bungles: ChiliBoots: Bungles: 40 degree day: Bungles: Impossible now I'd think, given it seems the Oxford vaccine may have failed. It was the sole one I'm aware of that had a realistic change of being this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec​h/article-8331709/Oxford-coronavirus-v​accine-does-not-stop-infection-experts​-warn.html

Well now I doubt the existence of both the vaccine and the monkeys who caught the coronavirus.


Yes, I apologise for the source, but it doesn't seem to have been widely reported yet, outside TV - it's breaking news in the UK.

Here's a decent summary from sciencemag.org

The jist of it is that the Oxford vaccine only prevented infection in a few of the vaccinated monkeys, hoever, none of the vaccinated monkeys developed pneumonia versus 2/3 of the unvaccinated ones, so it did seem to moderate the effects of the disease.

The Moderna and Sinovac vaccines in comparison seem to be more effective at inhibiting infection, however those trials are in earlier stages.


Does that mean it's not technically a vaccine - in the sense of lowering chance of infection - but possibly a solid prophylactic treatment?


That's beyond my knowledge and expertise. At the very least, they'd probably want to get a few months under the belt of the human trials before making any sort of go/no-go decision on using it as a prophylaxis. If it's otherwise safe, it seems to me a reduction in morbidity is certainly a worthwhile pursuit, but again, I'm just some guy on the internet.
 
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2020-05-18 3:56:50 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Oh, I don't know, threesomes with Scarlett Johansson and Amy Adams have been in my (spank) bank for years now...


When y'all tap out, lemme know and I'll take a swing.
 
2020-05-18 3:57:03 PM  

Hey Nurse!: Dear Penthouse, I was at this awards ceremony the other night. I didn't think things like this could happen to me
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Mmmmmm, Adams-Johansson sandwich...

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2020-05-18 3:59:33 PM  

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2020-05-18 4:13:42 PM  

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Trump and conservatives will continue with facism no matter when there is a vaccine.
 
2020-05-18 4:31:22 PM  

ChiliBoots: The Moderna and Sinovac vaccines in comparison seem to be more effective at inhibiting infection, however those trials are in earlier stages.


That's true.  But I find it typical of Wall Street to see the Moderna vaccine as being ready for prime time relatively soon (based on today's market rally).  But as usual, they don't understand science and while it may look good in early, smaller tests, it's quite possible the Moderna vaccine may either have issues in larger tests, or may not do everything it did for the smaller group with a larger group (that is, the larger group ends up having more people who end up not gaining any immunity from the vaccine).

I mainly talk about one vaccine trial due to not hearing much about the Sinovac one.
 
2020-05-18 4:35:20 PM  

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Come on dude. Step up your game a little.

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2020-05-18 4:42:47 PM  
Ugh. While I really, truly, do HATE the thought of sounding like an anti-vaxxer...

I'd be extremely reluctant to have my kid take a vaccine that hasn't undergone at least a couple of years of safety testing.

Especially one that Trump keeps touting as "bigly safe, the safest vaccine out there. Believe me."

I'm hoping the rollout will be slow and I manage to get my family near the back of the line for shots.

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A rushed and poorly tested vaccine that kills or seriously farks up vast numbers of Americans is... It's hard to even contemplate. The extent of the cataclysm might be comparable to a limited nuclear exchange.
 
2020-05-18 4:46:41 PM  

Riche: Ugh. While I really, truly, do HATE the thought of sounding like an anti-vaxxer...

I'd be extremely reluctant to have my kid take a vaccine that hasn't undergone at least a couple of years of safety testing.

Especially one that Trump keeps touting as "bigly safe, the safest vaccine out there. Believe me."

I'm hoping the rollout will be slow and I manage to get my family near the back of the line for shots.

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A rushed and poorly tested vaccine that kills or seriously farks up vast numbers of Americans is... It's hard to even contemplate. The extent of the cataclysm might be comparable to a limited nuclear exchange.


Which is why at this point I'm glad the people doing the Moderna trials are planning to do a larger one, instead of being forced into saying that the vaccine is somehow done (and then using the public as guinea pigs).
 
2020-05-18 4:53:51 PM  
He says there 110 groups working on this and to get it by the end of the year everything would have to go perfect. That gives me an idea. Let's give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of chemistry tests and see what happens?
 
2020-05-18 5:37:51 PM  

AgentKGB: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: Todd asked Inglesby what to expect in the summer months. Inglesby said it depends on how careful people are.

"I mean, the future really is in our hands," Inglesby said.

Translation: We're screwed.

Yup.

Here in B.C. parks have re-opened for day use. May 27th they start taking reservations again (for campgrounds, cabins at the lake, etc) and June 1st you can stay overnight in parks again. That's going to be the acid test. Someone will think "Well I just have a little cough. It's probably all the pollen", go to the cabin at the lake, not socially distance and bam.

Schools re-open June 1st but it's alternating days for K - 5 and one day a week for 6 - 12. All completely voluntary.

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That part scares me the most. If a student has an immediate family member that has Covid-19 they can still come to school. What a brilliant farking idea. o_O

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Meanwhile in Quebec... welcome to pénitentiaire... sorry I mean École.


Relaxing shelter-in-place orders in a measured way seems like a good idea to me, but anyone who is experiencing symptoms should be quarantined (which is different and more isolating than sheltering in place). Maybe that's why?
 
2020-05-18 5:39:03 PM  

Resin33: He says there 110 groups working on this and to get it by the end of the year everything would have to go perfect. That gives me an idea. Let's give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of chemistry tests and see what happens?


Trump is so simple he thinks if a vaccine takes a year to produce by one company, well then 12 companies could do it in a month, and 50 companies could do it in a week.  That's the extent of his math and managerial expertise.
 
2020-05-18 5:42:09 PM  

Riche: Ugh. While I really, truly, do HATE the thought of sounding like an anti-vaxxer...

I'd be extremely reluctant to have my kid take a vaccine that hasn't undergone at least a couple of years of safety testing.

Especially one that Trump keeps touting as "bigly safe, the safest vaccine out there. Believe me."

I'm hoping the rollout will be slow and I manage to get my family near the back of the line for shots.

============

A rushed and poorly tested vaccine that kills or seriously farks up vast numbers of Americans is... It's hard to even contemplate. The extent of the cataclysm might be comparable to a limited nuclear exchange.


I'm very pro-vaccine, but agree with your hesitation. I wouldn't wait years, but maybe a few months until we see what the initial side-effects are.
 
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