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2020-05-18 9:51:58 AM  
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2020-05-18 10:01:39 AM  
The "I need to gut mah hair dun" ones can fark right off and die.
The "I hurv a right to carry my personal support bazooka into subway" ones are children whining about security blankets and I'm not even entirely sure why they are doing any of this.  Childish attention whores.

Now the ones who are there because they're are facing a situation where they can't work to make money but their government hasn't lifted a finger to help them.  Those people:  I don't have a good answer for that, I can't waggle my finger at that.  Maybe work for an essential service?  I don't know.  If I was going to protest it would be aimed at governments not to open up businesses, but to open up that stupid wallet that gets opened so often to bail out sociopaths in suits all the time.  I'd protest the lack of support from my government to support these people.
 
2020-05-18 10:06:30 AM  
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2020-05-18 10:07:00 AM  
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/If a meme is dank, a man is not only right to steal it, he is obligated to do so.
 
2020-05-18 10:22:04 AM  
Where does the cellphone data come from? I watned to look at the data, but I can't seem to find a source for it
 
2020-05-18 10:22:22 AM  
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2020-05-18 10:23:01 AM  

JohnHall: Where does the cellphone data come from?


Typically from cellphones.
 
2020-05-18 10:23:24 AM  
The cell phone data following the Open-protests is in and you already know the rest of this headline

This is precisely why should shouldn't carry around a cell phone.

Also, keep a bunch of full-sized Snickers on you, just in case.

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2020-05-18 10:24:18 AM  
Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.
 
2020-05-18 10:24:38 AM  
Keep in mind, this cell phone tracking data was obtained from many people who are concerned with Bill Gates using a vaccine to track them with chips.
 
2020-05-18 10:24:43 AM  
Frightened journalists who're only interested in the truth, are being targetted by Trump supporters because they're exposing his collusion with Putin!!!
This vicious mob of rioters just simply want bars & liquor stores to be open 24 hours a day, so they can get wasted as they're degenerates who support Trump!!!
Small businesses don't need to re-open, these people can just get jobs as essential workers, who needs truckers or farmers when Amazon needs more warehouse workers & it's unions need more yearly worker fees???
 
2020-05-18 10:24:58 AM  
Cell phone data? I told you that 5G was making people sick!
 
2020-05-18 10:25:56 AM  

worsttofirst: Frightened journalists who're only interested in the truth, are being targetted by Trump supporters because they're exposing his collusion with Putin!!!
This vicious mob of rioters just simply want bars & liquor stores to be open 24 hours a day, so they can get wasted as they're degenerates who support Trump!!!
Small businesses don't need to re-open, these people can just get jobs as essential workers, who needs truckers or farmers when Amazon needs more warehouse workers & it's unions need more yearly worker fees???


They're remaking Die Hard, but they're calling it Try Hard starring you.
 
2020-05-18 10:26:27 AM  

dittybopper: This is precisely why should shouldn't carry around a cell phone.


So we can't visualize where a virus will spread following anonymized information?
 
2020-05-18 10:26:28 AM  

worsttofirst: Frightened journalists who're only interested in the truth, are being targetted by Trump supporters because they're exposing his collusion with Putin!!!
This vicious mob of rioters just simply want bars & liquor stores to be open 24 hours a day, so they can get wasted as they're degenerates who support Trump!!!
Small businesses don't need to re-open, these people can just get jobs as essential workers, who needs truckers or farmers when Amazon needs more warehouse workers & it's unions need more yearly worker fees???


(take your meds)
 
2020-05-18 10:26:37 AM  
I actually feel sorry for the virus that has to crawl around inside this particular skeevo's carcass, imo.

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2020-05-18 10:27:34 AM  
I don't need this craep.  I need correlating data showing the spread of covid-19 hospitalizations that links the behavior to waves of illness and death.  Until we have that, we have educated guesses.

If it doesn't happen, then they might have been right about humidity and heat and not really needing to stay locked down for so long.  If it does happen, then we were right.

/every indicator so far is that we will be right, but we do still need it to HAPPEN, or we have to reassess our prediction models.
 
2020-05-18 10:28:33 AM  
Something something not fascism when we do it?
 
2020-05-18 10:28:42 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away


What right have you been denied? Getting a farking haircut? You sound like a mental weakling who can't stand to not be distracted for 2 minutes.
 
2020-05-18 10:29:26 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Now the ones who are there because they're are facing a situation where they can't work to make money but their government hasn't lifted a finger to help them.  Those people:  I don't have a good answer for that, I can't waggle my finger at that.  Maybe work for an essential service?


I try to put myself in their shoes - and honestly - I don't think I'd do it. Get a job as an Instacart driver and make enough money to get by...at the risk of giving my kids Kawasaki disease or whatever it's called? Pass.

I wish the government would step up with a jobs program. We need contact tracers. Hire 300k of them to work from home. Start training them immediately. Maybe they sit around doing nothing for a few months - so what? Would have been nice to have some N95s sitting around doing nothing last year.
 
2020-05-18 10:29:51 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.


Do you have someone checking in on you from time to time?
 
2020-05-18 10:30:30 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.


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2020-05-18 10:30:52 AM  
...traveling hundreds of miles to events, returning to all parts of their states, and even crossing into neighboring ones.

Proof of astroturfing
 
2020-05-18 10:31:14 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.


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2020-05-18 10:31:26 AM  
The Lansing area is one of our choices for shopping trips, but we try not to go there if we can avoid it. The folks in Ann Arbor seem to behave quite responsibly (especially by comparison), so we go east rather than north.

It is a bummer that the cell data shows that we have immediate neighbors who go to the protests (at least when the weather is nice). We try and stay away from all the neighbors.
 
2020-05-18 10:31:26 AM  

trappedspirit: Something something not fascism when we do it?


No, no...fascists can be morons also.

/armed pro-Covid protestors out front of the statehouse shoulda told ya :)
 
2020-05-18 10:31:57 AM  
p51d007: (you know, the same one we had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).

It's one thing to pretend to be stupid for clicks and Lulz.

It's another to do it so badly.

I'd like to say that's it's been a pleasure knowing you, except that it hasn't.
 
2020-05-18 10:31:58 AM  
Faces of death.
 
2020-05-18 10:33:06 AM  
So what I got out of that article is the small groups of open up protestors had to come from all over the state, and in some cases other states. And that is the turnout? Looking like there is a much smaller number of these folks than we are being lead to believe.
 
2020-05-18 10:34:31 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.


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This is all I heard you say.
 
2020-05-18 10:34:58 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.

Do you have someone checking in on you from time to time?


It's called a caseworker.
 
2020-05-18 10:35:43 AM  
You know what the time and energy of these tantrums (because yes, tantrums are what they are) could have been better directed towards? Demanding adequate, MONTHLY financial support from the government. For the duration of the pandemic.

"If I can't find work during a pandemic, then the richest nation in the world should be able to safeguard its citizens until it's safe to find work" is a better rallying cry than "if I can't spend 2 hours at Olive Garden looking at my phone idly and treating the wait staff like slave laborers then I'm living under tyranny."
 
2020-05-18 10:35:55 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.


This was pocketninjalike typing with no pocketninja funny.

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2020-05-18 10:36:48 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.


2/10
 
2020-05-18 10:37:08 AM  
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2020-05-18 10:38:48 AM  
In reading the article, there was a lot of "may" and not a lot of 'it did".  The article mentions that the cellphones were tracked to many different places, but doesn't seem to say that those many different places ended up turning into hot spots.
 
2020-05-18 10:39:54 AM  

p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.


WARNING! Poe's Law reactor core is overloading! Breech imminent!
 
2020-05-18 10:45:19 AM  
That article doesn't prove anything other than something "MAY" have happened - just like $100 bill MAY file out of my ass. Go out and live your lives, you Farking pussies.
 
2020-05-18 10:46:56 AM  

JohnHall: Where does the cellphone data come from? I watned to look at the data, but I can't seem to find a source for it


You have to use FOIA to request the data, and once the Chinese server farm processes it, they will send you what you want to know.
 
2020-05-18 10:48:29 AM  

Ecobuckeye: dittybopper: This is precisely why should shouldn't carry around a cell phone.

So we can't visualize where a virus will spread following anonymized information?


I was of course being facetious, but if you want to go there, what guarantee do you have that the data is "anonymized"?   In fact, it can't be, because location data is inherently de-anonymizing.

Even if you have blanked out the number and reduced the location accuracy of data, for it to have any real meaning it shows approximately where and when a device was somewhere.  Unless you wrap your phone in aluminum foil when you're half-way home, it can still be used to identify who you are, especially if you use it for longer term tracking.

I mean, going to a protest, then back home, then to work, then home, then maybe to visit a relative or friend, or to go shopping, or whatever, you don't think that's not going to de-anonymize you?
 
2020-05-18 10:49:19 AM  
Fark right off Covid Karens. We're re-opening and getting back to the NEW NORMAL. Wash your hands, wear your mask, social distance when possible and GBTFW.

Happy Monday!
 
2020-05-18 10:49:21 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: So what I got out of that article is the small groups of open up protestors had to come from all over the state, and in some cases other states. And that is the turnout? Looking like there is a much smaller number of these folks than we are being lead to believe.


The horrifying possibility is that they are traveling great distances to these protests and taking the disease back home with them - to their kids and neighbors - who don't deserve to be infected.
 
2020-05-18 10:50:12 AM  

VisualiseThis: p51d007: Gee, just what the government needs to scare the crap out of sheeple, in order for them to "accept"
having your rights taken away for some new version of a corona virus (you know, the same one we
had in 2009 that Obama DID NOTHING about).  Oh, and this fall, look for the democrats & their
pravda media to push for locking everything down again, and "demand" mail in voting.  They expect
the sheeple to go along with it because you can bet they already have enough allies in the post office
to stuff more illegal voters, dead voters and people made up out of the thin air to win the election, destroy
what's left of the Constitution, and create a new socialist utopia called the United SOCIALIST States
of America.

2/10


I would have gone with about 3/10; they nailed most of the conspiracy theories, including the post office, which shows at least some effort.  If they had mentioned 'pizza' even once I would have scored them higher.
 
2020-05-18 10:51:05 AM  

penetrating_virga: Fark right off Covid Karens. We're re-opening and getting back to the NEW NORMAL. Wash your hands, wear your mask, social distance when possible and GBTFW.

Happy Monday!


True.  If we don't work, you can't get your government money checks.
 
2020-05-18 10:51:35 AM  

bluejeansonfire: You know what the time and energy of these tantrums (because yes, tantrums are what they are) could have been better directed towards? Demanding adequate, MONTHLY financial support from the government. For the duration of the pandemic.

"If I can't find work during a pandemic, then the richest nation in the world should be able to safeguard its citizens until it's safe to find work" is a better rallying cry than "if I can't spend 2 hours at Olive Garden looking at my phone idly and treating the wait staff like slave laborers then I'm living under tyranny."


This right here is why Republicans hate education.  They don't WANT any angry protestors to make the better argument.  They want a cat, lazy, stupid, and ultimately ineffectual population.

We're seeing in action right here and now, and it's incredibly depressing.
 
2020-05-18 10:53:29 AM  

Bowen: I wish the government would step up with a jobs program. We need contact tracers. Hire 300k of them to work from home. Start training them immediately. Maybe they sit around doing nothing for a few months - so what? Would have been nice to have some N95s sitting around doing nothing last year.


The census already requires the federal government to hire a shiat ton of people for a temporary position. They could start by asking people interested in those positions if they'd have any interest in contact tracing work.
 
2020-05-18 10:53:33 AM  

Rapmaster2000: penetrating_virga: Fark right off Covid Karens. We're re-opening and getting back to the NEW NORMAL. Wash your hands, wear your mask, social distance when possible and GBTFW.

Happy Monday!

True.  If we don't work, you can't get your government money checks.



LOL. That's not true.. to the tune of $150,000 SBA forgive-able loan. :D

Now like I said... grab your tool belt and get to work.
 
2020-05-18 10:54:29 AM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: bluejeansonfire: You know what the time and energy of these tantrums (because yes, tantrums are what they are) could have been better directed towards? Demanding adequate, MONTHLY financial support from the government. For the duration of the pandemic.

"If I can't find work during a pandemic, then the richest nation in the world should be able to safeguard its citizens until it's safe to find work" is a better rallying cry than "if I can't spend 2 hours at Olive Garden looking at my phone idly and treating the wait staff like slave laborers then I'm living under tyranny."

This right here is why Republicans hate education.  They don't WANT any angry protestors to make the better argument.  They want a cat, lazy, stupid, and ultimately ineffectual population.

We're seeing in action right here and now, and it's incredibly depressing.


Many cats are indeed lazy, but I'm not sure you can call them stupid.
 
2020-05-18 10:54:42 AM  

penetrating_virga: Fark right off Covid Karens. We're re-opening and getting back to the NEW NORMAL. Wash your hands, wear your mask, social distance when possible and GBTFW.

Happy Monday!


Your failure to understand that the reopen protestors are the "Karens" in this situation is emblematic of the right's lack of intelligence and inability to grasp memes.
 
2020-05-18 10:55:44 AM  

penetrating_virga: Rapmaster2000: penetrating_virga: Fark right off Covid Karens. We're re-opening and getting back to the NEW NORMAL. Wash your hands, wear your mask, social distance when possible and GBTFW.

Happy Monday!

True.  If we don't work, you can't get your government money checks.


LOL. That's not true.. to the tune of $150,000 SBA forgive-able loan. :D

Now like I said... grab your tool belt and get to work.


Wow!  That's going to buy you a lot of lottery tickets.
 
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