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(Daily Gazette (Schenectady))   It's not unusual when only one person is on the ballot running for the school board. It is unusual when voters need to fill three positions   (dailygazette.com) divider line
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2020-05-17 8:23:04 AM  
School Board: the one elected office where you can be absolutely sure EVERYONE hates you. The parents, the childless, the teachers, and the students. No matter what you do someone is mad at you, and the salary is usually in the tens of dollars per month.
 
2020-05-17 9:28:58 AM  
It's not unusual, it happens every day. No matter what you say.
 
2020-05-17 9:57:05 AM  
I'd enter the race, but I'm kinda worried about the embarrassment when I finish fourth.
 
2020-05-17 11:17:30 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: School Board: the one elected office where you can be absolutely sure EVERYONE hates you. The parents, the childless, the teachers, and the students. No matter what you do someone is mad at you, and the salary is usually in the tens of dollars per month.


I mean... you almost inevitably deserve all of that hate and in fact should be hated more, and possibly subject to criminal prosecution, and are only avoiding both because most people don't pay much attention.

So it's actually a fairly good deal when you think about it.
 
2020-05-17 11:21:11 AM  

HighOnCraic: It's not unusual, it happens every day. No matter what you say.


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2020-05-17 11:23:44 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Mr. Coffee Nerves: School Board: the one elected office where you can be absolutely sure EVERYONE hates you. The parents, the childless, the teachers, and the students. No matter what you do someone is mad at you, and the salary is usually in the tens of dollars per month.

I mean... you almost inevitably deserve all of that hate and in fact should be hated more, and possibly subject to criminal prosecution, and are only avoiding both because most people don't pay much attention.

So it's actually a fairly good deal when you think about it.


This feels like a joke, but most people should think about following their local school boards so they like... know what people on school board do/are supposed to do.

Typically they're the very last layer of oversight for your school district and are actually responsible for VERY little.

Usually the job is voting on what decision someone else has put together should be selected
 
2020-05-17 11:26:30 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: School Board: the one elected office where you can be absolutely sure EVERYONE hates you. The parents, the childless, the teachers, and the students. No matter what you do someone is mad at you, and the salary is usually in the tens of dollars per month.


If school boards weren't perennially a bunch of uptight, micro-managing, power-drunk, pedantic assholes, that might change.

Seriously - the only entity that approaches the general dickery of a school board is an HOA.
 
2020-05-17 11:30:30 AM  
The school board in my sister's district just hired an extraneous vice principal but won't pay for teacher's aides in overcrowded schools "because they don't have any money." I have exactly zero sympathy for school board members.

\doesn't help that the town leans heavily MAGAtty
 
2020-05-17 11:46:40 AM  
We have some weird positions (one is something like municipality liaison to county government) that I have never seen any one running for. The only option is a write-in line. I don't know if they end up appointing someone or if the guy who thinks it's funny to write himself in wins with one vote.
 
2020-05-17 11:49:08 AM  
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2020-05-17 11:49:32 AM  

FriarReb98: The school board in my sister's district just hired an extraneous vice principal but won't pay for teacher's aides in overcrowded schools "because they don't have any money." I have exactly zero sympathy for school board members.

\doesn't help that the town leans heavily MAGAtty


What you mean to say is you imagine an extraneous vice principal was hired.
 
2020-05-17 11:57:49 AM  
A much more interesting post, perhaps, if we could be told if it was Joes, Colorado or Schenectady, NY.
 
2020-05-17 12:01:07 PM  
All you need to get on the school board is to ensure you use these magic words in your sentences and you'll get a position:

*  Zero Tolerance
*  Curriculum
*  Standardized testing
*  Budget

And remember

1. Teachers are overpaid and underworked
2. Hail your political masters
3. Allow cops in schools for locker searches.
 
2020-05-17 12:07:23 PM  

Super_pope: This feels like a joke,


Okay, that's fair.  This is the internet, so I should probably explicitly clarify:  that was (I feel obviously) hyperbole for the purposes of humor.  I am not literally accusing every individual school board member of every board of actual crimes.

The actual problem with most school boards is that the members are selected with no bias whatsoever toward actual skill, competence, or knowledge regarding the tasks that fall under their authority.  Regardless of the individual merit of the people involved, assigning administrative management tasks to a group of people who likely have never had a real job, much less managed hiring and firing, and assigning organizational budgeting authority to a group of people who statistically cannot even balance their own checkbooks, is not something that was ever going to end well.

As many ideological beefs as I have with state school boards (which are generally responsible for curriculum decisions instead of "whatever they want to be responsible for that week" like the local version), this is actually an issue that tends to fade into the background as the nominal school boards stop actually being school boards and become higher-level posts with more defined oversight over larger numbers of institutions.  Because when you're electing board members to oversee like five or six counties' worth of schools people have to run actual campaigns and present credentials.  It's in places like TFA where you can end up with just like one candidate for three seats running uncontested that the institution should be done away with entirely and the schools should just run themselves under the actual state government.
 
2020-05-17 12:10:25 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Super_pope: This feels like a joke,

Okay, that's fair.  This is the internet, so I should probably explicitly clarify:  that was (I feel obviously) hyperbole for the purposes of humor.  I am not literally accusing every individual school board member of every board of actual crimes.

The actual problem with most school boards is that the members are selected with no bias whatsoever toward actual skill, competence, or knowledge regarding the tasks that fall under their authority.  Regardless of the individual merit of the people involved, assigning administrative management tasks to a group of people who likely have never had a real job, much less managed hiring and firing, and assigning organizational budgeting authority to a group of people who statistically cannot even balance their own checkbooks, is not something that was ever going to end well.

As many ideological beefs as I have with state school boards (which are generally responsible for curriculum decisions instead of "whatever they want to be responsible for that week" like the local version), this is actually an issue that tends to fade into the background as the nominal school boards stop actually being school boards and become higher-level posts with more defined oversight over larger numbers of institutions.  Because when you're electing board members to oversee like five or six counties' worth of schools people have to run actual campaigns and present credentials.  It's in places like TFA where you can end up with just like one candidate for three seats running uncontested that the institution should be done away with entirely and the schools should just run themselves under the actual state government.


These are all imagined ideas based on little to no working knowledge (something you claim bothers you).

Your school board doesn't build a budget, they vote to approve a budget assembled by legally mandated budget professionals:
 
2020-05-17 12:16:23 PM  
Americans no longer feel responsible for their communities, their fellow Americans, or their country at large.

This is a requirement for a republic to function.
 
2020-05-17 12:18:27 PM  
I don't know what's going on behind the scenes in this town, but I lived in a Jersey Podunk where town council seats went unopposed for years.  The town was run by a behind the scenes 'clique'...gang really...that used every dirty trick in the book, including open threats, and physical assaults to intimidate people.   Nothing was ever done about the problem, even though it was public knowledge, because the town was used as a political dumping ground for the more 'respectable' towns in the county.
 
2020-05-17 12:46:28 PM  

Super_pope: FriarReb98: The school board in my sister's district just hired an extraneous vice principal but won't pay for teacher's aides in overcrowded schools "because they don't have any money." I have exactly zero sympathy for school board members.

\doesn't help that the town leans heavily MAGAtty

What you mean to say is you imagine an extraneous vice principal was hired.


Yeah, no. If you need 5 para's and you respond by paying for one administrator that costs more than the combined salary of the others AND then claim you have no money for the para's, you really didnt need that administrator. You're just buying s crony at that point.
 
2020-05-17 12:55:25 PM  

FriarReb98: Super_pope: FriarReb98: The school board in my sister's district just hired an extraneous vice principal but won't pay for teacher's aides in overcrowded schools "because they don't have any money." I have exactly zero sympathy for school board members.

\doesn't help that the town leans heavily MAGAtty

What you mean to say is you imagine an extraneous vice principal was hired.

Yeah, no. If you need 5 para's and you respond by paying for one administrator that costs more than the combined salary of the others AND then claim you have no money for the para's, you really didnt need that administrator. You're just buying s crony at that point.


No, that's not correct.

You are imagining that unless you can demonstrate there were no duties that required a vice principal to perform.
 
2020-05-17 12:56:57 PM  
Your dad is so fat he can fill three openings
 
2020-05-17 1:51:40 PM  
This makes me sad because grass roots activism and politics often happens at the local level first. If the local Democratic party were smart they would ensure competent folks were on the ballot at every level. Then let the best rise up the ladde
 
2020-05-17 2:12:12 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: School Board: the one elected office where you can be absolutely sure EVERYONE hates you. The parents, the childless, the teachers, and the students. No matter what you do someone is mad at you, and the salary is usually in the tens of dollars per month.


Once you get elected to a board you come to realize you are nothing but a rubber stamp to state and federal mandates..which they provide almost no funding for.  So you have to raise taxes and people will hate you.
 
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2020-05-17 2:36:05 PM  
In my area one of the town water commissions didn't have enough candidates and the selectmen had to appoint somebody. Because like an earlier comment in this thread says there's no way to do the job the way people want. Previous commissioners had been punting on maintenance to keep rates low, and the new commissioners were going to deliver poor service and high rates as the system failed.
 
2020-05-17 2:58:09 PM  

ChrisDe: I'd enter the race, but I'm kinda worried about the embarrassment when I finish fourth.


just campaign on allowing prayer in schools again.  you'll win in a landslide

you don't have to follow up on it (it is already allowed) but it is easy pick'ins to win a school board slot
 
2020-05-17 4:26:12 PM  
Thanks subby.

Now I have this running through my head:

Tom Jones - "It's Not Unusual" on The Ed Sullivan Show
Youtube tGRZBa4cKWA


The rest of y'all can join me in singing along and snapping your fingers. Go-go boots optional.
 
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