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(The Atlantic)   The States are all using different definitions of COVID cases, deaths, and tests, making tracking it harder. If only we lived in some form of union of States that could set standards   (theatlantic.com) divider line
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2020-05-15 9:21:39 AM  
The Pacific Consortium of States has a pretty good model.  They are a young nation but show promise.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-05-15 9:46:37 AM  
We tried the nationally uniform federally prescribed testing model. That's why the virus spread so fast.
 
2020-05-15 9:56:05 AM  

ZAZ: We tried the nationally uniform federally prescribed testing model. That's why the virus spread so fast.


Or as Republicans like to say: Mission Accomplished
 
2020-05-15 1:11:02 PM  
I think they're looking to resurrect an old idea from years gone by in January.
 
2020-05-15 8:57:39 PM  
Those poor states, can't figure out their ass from their elbows without help from trump.
 
2020-05-15 9:00:12 PM  
Subby, according to the Trump model of Americaning, it's up to each state to determine their own standard.
 
2020-05-15 9:02:40 PM  
North and South Korea get along better than many of the US States.
 
2020-05-15 9:06:35 PM  
A bunch of tiny little poverty-stricken kingdoms huddling under a trench coat pretending to be a super power.
 
2020-05-15 9:06:54 PM  
Talk like that is a slippery slope to ending up in a Soviet Union, comrade.
 
2020-05-15 9:09:39 PM  
I see the thread is already being overrun by trolls...
 
2020-05-15 9:10:04 PM  
Trump's 'performance' against the pandemic is a historically colossal failure. They'll be talking about this one long after the USA is gone -- one of the major hinges in the irreversible destruction of an incredibly powerful and coherent country.

Also moves Trump past Bush and Buchanan as the worst president we've ever had.
 
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2020-05-15 9:10:46 PM  
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The pacific states, huh?
 
2020-05-15 9:18:37 PM  
We do have a standardized method of measuring and reporting on covid death numbers. It's a very simplistic equation:

Covid Cases = X
Covid Deaths = Y

((X2*Y3)+Y/0.5)*0 = The correct covid death number.
 
2020-05-15 9:20:38 PM  
Imagine that.  When some people don't want an accurate count of something they go out of their way to make it hard to count.  Nothing to see here, citizen.  Celebrate the health of the leader and our grand reopening!
 
2020-05-15 9:23:24 PM  

mayochamp: Those poor states, can't figure out their ass from their elbows without help from trump.


Yep. States should be fine on their own. After all, travel between states is practically impossible and states don't want anything in return for the taxes they give to the federal government.
 
2020-05-15 9:41:10 PM  
if only there was some national centre that was tasked with monitoring and controlling disease.

some sort of centre for disease control if you will.

If only such a place existed so that it could give the Federal Administration advance warning and advice and expertise? I bet the Administration would really listen to an organisation like this.
 
2020-05-15 9:43:39 PM  
My wife talked to someone in Arizona this morning whose family member had been sick last month.  This family member was able to get the antibody test and tested positive for covid antibodies.  They called the state to report the results by the state said it would not register it as a positive case because the symptoms the person had when sick weren't severe enough.
 
2020-05-15 9:46:30 PM  
A big problem with letting states handle it is that many metro areas (and their larger regional market reach) straddle state lines. The disparate policies between states make for very confusing and often ineffective action. Not only that, but the different testing regimen and data collection/analysis between states further confuse the issue. Policies that mitigate the spread in a large city 250 miles from the opposite state border may not address the issues facing the opposite-state neighbor. Conversely, when the big city starts to see cases diminish and the state then loosens restrictions, the opposite border city starts seeing more spread into and from the neighboring. It's a myopic strategy considering what we could choose to and have the ability to do.

We should have been treating this on the federal level using data from CMSAs as the individual policy-making units and zoned each of those off accordingly. Of course, we have absolutely zero political capital with which to do that, and who would be the controlling agency (outside a federal entity such as FEMA) would be the biggest pissing contest you've ever seen. Less so if we'd briefed and been prepared for this, but I digress...

No, we weren't ready to deal with this in a globalized world. We could have been, but we chose not to in favor of solipsistic, illusory "freedumb." But hey, you go enjoy your weekends at the lake/bar/salon
 
2020-05-15 9:49:44 PM  

ansius: if only there was some national centre that was tasked with monitoring and controlling disease.

some sort of centre for disease control if you will.

If only such a place existed so that it could give the Federal Administration advance warning and advice and expertise? I bet the Administration would really listen to an organisation like this.


British-like typing detected.
 
2020-05-15 10:24:45 PM  
Here in Quebec the death count include those that were likely to have died of Covid-19 not just those that tested positive. I am not sure what is included in cases and recovered.
 
2020-05-15 10:33:42 PM  

Troy McClure: My wife talked to someone in Arizona this morning whose family member had been sick last month.  This family member was able to get the antibody test and tested positive for covid antibodies.  They called the state to report the results by the state said it would not register it as a positive case because the symptoms the person had when sick weren't severe enough.


This is how the blue states are going to end up with 500 thousand cases, and the red states are only going to have 1000.

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2020-05-15 11:50:42 PM  

talkertopc: Here in Quebec the death count include those that were likely to have died of Covid-19 not just those that tested positive. I am not sure what is included in cases and recovered.


Good! Considering the tests are batshiat useless...

I have a few friends who were told they have it by their doctors, even though the test was negative. Back in March, some doctors were already ignoring the swabs. There were just too many chest infections and wacky symptoms to be a coincidence.
 
2020-05-16 12:28:43 AM  
The union...of the states is in decliiiiine...
 
2020-05-16 11:57:01 AM  
Christ! Just get universal healthcare and create an inter-state network to share information and resources; cut costs and create viable communication. Morons.
 
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