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(Washington Post)   "What will happen if Trump loses and then takes to Twitter to say he actually won? It's not hard to see how deadly that could become, particularly given that Fox News personalities are already absurdly throwing around the word 'coup'"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-05-15 11:03:15 AM  

twistedsteel5252: NeoCortex42: If?  Try "when".

Also, he'll be backseat driving the entirety of the next administration. It's up to the press to just ignore him once he's out of office.

This

For all the ideals any country has it all boils down to who's willing to fight for their world view more.

One 1/3 will fight for American values, 1/3 will fight against Americans values and 1/3 will stay home.

President Lysol's base is and always will be 1/3
The revolutionary war was won by 1/3 of  colonialists.

Pick a side


Difficulty: the cable TV still works.
 
2020-05-15 11:03:53 AM  

Action Replay Nick: The coup by Trump and his supporters will be a success. Who will stop him? Law enforcement and the military are overrun with white supremacists. I can't even recall the last time I saw a cop in the news that wasn't a roided out skinhead.


Why do you insist upon treating this incompetent boob like a brilliant supervillain? His only real power comes from people who refuse to see him as the bad joke he is, and take him seriously. He's not an evil genius or a master tactician. He's a film-flam man, and you're just another sucker.
 
2020-05-15 11:04:36 AM  
At 12:00:01pm on January 20, the US Secret Service and Capitol Police should treat him no differently any other unauthorized, deranged individual that managed to get into the Oval Office.
 
2020-05-15 11:05:29 AM  

RyogaM: RussianPotato: Why, that'd be as disastrous as all the Shillary people saying she won the popular vote and therefore should be president.

https://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-​reacts-to-election/

You mean, 2012 Donald Trump, who called for a revolution when he erroneously thought Obama lost the popular vote against Romney.  The Trump who called us a total sham and a travesty.  Yeah, you support a moron for president.


Morons better than a senile husk of a corpse.  Have you seen Biden lately?

/doesn't he look tired?
 
2020-05-15 11:05:41 AM  

Your_Huckleberry: Trump "refusing to leave" has been one of Bill Maher's mantras for years now. I'd swear he's asked virtually every guest he's had on "what's the plan?" When he declares the election a fraud and refuses to leave. Most of the time, people have kinda laughed him off.
One conservative talk show host (can't remember his name) flat out said the GOP would drag Trump out if he did that. Maher didn't believe him.



Even if he leaves but continues to tweet and comment about how the election was stolen, he can do plenty of damage. That damage will be rewarded handsomely by his Russian handlers. It will also work to his advantage to try and stall any investigations of his crimes.
 
2020-05-15 11:05:53 AM  
we arrest them for sedition.
 
2020-05-15 11:06:07 AM  
I asked that question a few days ago.  I keep hearing Kosh answering "in fire" in my mind.
 
2020-05-15 11:06:21 AM  
Hey Twitter....remove this farking account
 
2020-05-15 11:06:30 AM  

NeoCortex42: If?  Try "when".

Also, he'll be backseat driving the entirety of the next administration. It's up to the press to just ignore him once he's out of office.


"If" applies to whether he loses. He's gonna whine about the other side cheating either way.
 
2020-05-15 11:06:37 AM  

AlAlvin: I fear how much damage that he and the Republicans will try to do once they lose.


why, there's nothing they could do that either 1. they couldn't do already or 2. couldn't be undone immediately (executive orders, etc.)

that happened in states where Republicans held both houses of the legislature
 
2020-05-15 11:06:44 AM  
#NotMyPresident?????
 
2020-05-15 11:07:05 AM  

baron von doodle: TFA linked to a photo that sums up the situation nicely.
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2020-05-15 11:08:34 AM  

SoupGuru: Hand Banana: SoupGuru: You guys are cute, thinking there's going to be an election.

I wish people would stop repeating this crap. Trump cannot stop the election, not in his wildest dreams.

He also can't fire someone for investigating him. Or ignore subpoenas. Or personally profit from his office. Or intimidate witnesses.


He has yet to take over any state's operations, which is where the election sits. I take it your state is going to give up their own power?
 
2020-05-15 11:09:42 AM  

Texas Gabe: Zeb Hesselgresser: Come on, happens all the time.  We know how to deal with this.

[hips.hearstapps.com image 480x481]

Black, woman, intellectual, successful author, stateswoman, smarter than its possible for Trump to ever be.

Yup, no wonder you Trumpers are trying smearing her for no reason at all.


Seriously.  Only another MAGAt would understand the supposed point he's trying to make.  But it probably just boils down to:  "Deflect to scary black woman."
 
2020-05-15 11:10:04 AM  

RussianPotato: RyogaM: RussianPotato: Why, that'd be as disastrous as all the Shillary people saying she won the popular vote and therefore should be president.

https://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-​reacts-to-election/

You mean, 2012 Donald Trump, who called for a revolution when he erroneously thought Obama lost the popular vote against Romney.  The Trump who called us a total sham and a travesty.  Yeah, you support a moron for president.

Morons better than a senile husk of a corpse.  Have you seen Biden lately?

/doesn't he look tired?


Not nearly as tired as your posts.
 
2020-05-15 11:10:26 AM  
I don't think you guys are thinking outside the box enough. I mean, it will be amazing how many instances of election fraud and tampering and conspiracies are happening in Democratically leaning districts so the FBI will be needed to cordon off the polling places through election day. Vote by mail, turns out the Post Office can't meet their obligations and will need to furlough most of the work force. Martial law, anyone on the streets will be arrested. Poll workers all arrested. And the election will come out in Trumps favor and there will be lawsuits and he'll be president while it works its way through the courts.
 
2020-05-15 11:11:20 AM  

Hand Banana: SoupGuru: You guys are cute, thinking there's going to be an election.

I wish people would stop repeating this crap. Trump cannot stop the election, not in his wildest dreams.


He would have to stop 50 individual ones.
 
2020-05-15 11:11:42 AM  

RussianPotato: RyogaM: RussianPotato: Why, that'd be as disastrous as all the Shillary people saying she won the popular vote and therefore should be president.

https://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-​reacts-to-election/

You mean, 2012 Donald Trump, who called for a revolution when he erroneously thought Obama lost the popular vote against Romney.  The Trump who called us a total sham and a travesty.  Yeah, you support a moron for president.

Morons better than a senile husk of a corpse.  Have you seen Biden lately?

/doesn't he look tired?


Not as tired as the moron you support.  87,000 dead due to the moron. And Trump is the one who said Hillary should have been president if she won the popular vote.  I love how you ignore that amazing display of stupidity, hypocrisy and inability to hold his shiat together.  He truly reflects his supporters.
 
2020-05-15 11:11:44 AM  
If violence erupted, then the government needs to seriously consider curbing Fox News somehow, and other sites/sources like that.

Not sure how you do that with the whole free speech thing, but we gotta find someway to clamp down on organizations that specifically spin news to get a base all worked up.
 
2020-05-15 11:11:49 AM  
When Bevin lost to Beshear in KY, he (Bevin) crowed about non-existent voter fraud and refused to accept the results.  All (or at least most) told him to take it like a man and suck it up and he soon relented.

Hopefully, when push comes to shove, most will do that come November too.
 
2020-05-15 11:13:05 AM  

Tomoko: What will happen if Twitter just bans him the day he leaves office so he can't Tweet anymore.


aug3: Once trump is no longer president, will twitter ban him? we will miss his epic rant about how his freedum of speech is being violated


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Yeaaaaah... we'll get right on that.
 
2020-05-15 11:14:08 AM  
If it's Trump's cosplay commandos vs the USMC I know HO my money is on.
 
2020-05-15 11:14:31 AM  

RussianPotato: RyogaM: RussianPotato: Why, that'd be as disastrous as all the Shillary people saying she won the popular vote and therefore should be president.

https://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-​reacts-to-election/

You mean, 2012 Donald Trump, who called for a revolution when he erroneously thought Obama lost the popular vote against Romney.  The Trump who called us a total sham and a travesty.  Yeah, you support a moron for president.

Morons better than a senile husk of a corpse. Have you seen Biden lately?

/doesn't he look tired?


That's Trump's voting base.
 
2020-05-15 11:15:19 AM  
If it's Trump's cosplay commandos vs the USMC I know who my money is on.
 
2020-05-15 11:15:35 AM  
The bigger question is:  how do we safeguard against Trump committing the most epic torch job in history on his way out?  That's what I fear.
 
2020-05-15 11:16:15 AM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: I'm hoping his followers try something violent and get drone striked


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Nah.  Armed loonies don't get drone striked.  I'm considering open carrying to envrionmentalist events.  We might really be missing a point on this "gun" thing.
 
2020-05-15 11:18:31 AM  

Bootleg: NeoCortex42: If?  Try "when".

Also, he'll be backseat driving the entirety of the next administration. It's up to the press to just ignore him once he's out of office.

It'll be hard for him to tweet from his jail cell, though.

/Shut up
//I can dream, damnit.
///it's still real to me.jpg


Self pardon is coming.
 
2020-05-15 11:18:57 AM  
Prepare for the possibility? I think you need to prepare for the certainty.
 
2020-05-15 11:19:21 AM  

RussianPotato: Why, that'd be as disastrous as all the Shillary people saying she won the popular vote and therefore should be president.


Nobody said that she should be president because she won the popular vote - they pointed out that the electors in Electoral College could choose to go with the winner of the popular vote instead of the traditional and historical practice of voting for the winner of the state. It was never going to happen - and no one expected it to happen. That's disingenuous. But it did create a lot of discussion about how outdated the EC has become. Sorry - that's how intellect works in groups.
 
2020-05-15 11:20:41 AM  

Hand Banana: SoupGuru: Hand Banana: SoupGuru: You guys are cute, thinking there's going to be an election.

I wish people would stop repeating this crap. Trump cannot stop the election, not in his wildest dreams.

He also can't fire someone for investigating him. Or ignore subpoenas. Or personally profit from his office. Or intimidate witnesses.

The difference is Presidential elections are run by the states, not the corrupt Trump administration.


Just like "the country re-opening is up to the states." And when Trump demands it open, suddenly all the states--even blue ones--start re-opening.
 
2020-05-15 11:21:37 AM  
This is my biggest fear. If Putin plays his cards right things could get really bad. By throwing doubt on the integrity of the election process (easy since a lot of places will be all vote by mail for the first time), or by farking with poll results, enough doubt can be created that the MAGAt core will simply refuse to accept the outcome. At that point things go to the Supreme Court, there's all manner of hysteria in the media, etc. It wouldn't take much to tip things into violence.
 
2020-05-15 11:21:42 AM  

Diogenes: Texas Gabe: Zeb Hesselgresser: Come on, happens all the time.  We know how to deal with this.

[hips.hearstapps.com image 480x481]

Black, woman, intellectual, successful author, stateswoman, smarter than its possible for Trump to ever be.

Yup, no wonder you Trumpers are trying smearing her for no reason at all.

Seriously.  Only another MAGAt would understand the supposed point he's trying to make.  But it probably just boils down to:  "Deflect to scary black woman."


And notice that Zeb Cousinscrewer doesn't even have the lady balls to come back an defend their "statement"? What a cowardly little snowflake.
 
2020-05-15 11:21:51 AM  

RussianPotato: RyogaM: RussianPotato: Why, that'd be as disastrous as all the Shillary people saying she won the popular vote and therefore should be president.

https://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-​reacts-to-election/

You mean, 2012 Donald Trump, who called for a revolution when he erroneously thought Obama lost the popular vote against Romney.  The Trump who called us a total sham and a travesty.  Yeah, you support a moron for president.

Morons better than a senile husk of a corpse.  Have you seen Biden lately?

/doesn't he look tired?


Wrong.
 
2020-05-15 11:22:29 AM  

Hand Banana: SoupGuru: You guys are cute, thinking there's going to be an election.

I wish people would stop repeating this crap. Trump cannot stop the election, not in his wildest dreams.


No, he's turned that part over to Jared.
 
2020-05-15 11:22:58 AM  
Everyone should be prepared for the likelihood an idiot neighbor or two is going to pull some crazy shiat and hope that they don't form small packs
 
2020-05-15 11:23:16 AM  
I brought this point up to a Trumper yesterday.

He said Trump is sure to win cause he's doing such a good job and everything is doing so greatly...  all that.  I brought up that polls show otherwise and Biden has a big lead even in some swing states.
He said polls are rigged and fake news and Biden won't ever win.
I ask "And if he does?" And he says the election was rigged. So then I say "so if Trump wins it's not rigged, but if Biden does, it is rigged?"
He says yes. So I ask why did the GOP and Trump shoot down the election security bills the Dems tried to pass.

He smokebombed and ranted nonsense

It's funny that logic actually hurts their brains. You can see it in their faces as it hits them.
 
2020-05-15 11:26:14 AM  

NeoCortex42: If?  Try "when".

Also, he'll be backseat driving the entirety of the next administration. It's up to the press to just ignore him once he's out of office.


Honestly, I doubt he'd follow through. First off it could (would) generate a lot of terminal problems for himself, and Pence, from the military.

Let's say that doesn't happen. There'd be a lot of pissed off libs spoiling for a fight if he riled up his base to engage in conflict, and I don't mean words or spitballs. He'd find out how little Meal Team Six is worth in a fight, very, very,  quickly.
 
2020-05-15 11:27:26 AM  

SoupGuru: You guys are cute, thinking there's going to be an election.


2008: CHENEY WILL SHUT DOWN THE ELECTIONS!

2016: OBAMA WON'T LET THE ELECTIONS HAPPEN!
 
2020-05-15 11:27:35 AM  

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11/3 hopefully.
 
2020-05-15 11:27:56 AM  

BMulligan: SoupGuru: You guys are cute, thinking there's going to be an election.

Oh, FFS.


You would be wise to consider the fact that he is going to try his best to prevent an election from happening and historically speaking - Nobody is going to stop him.
 
2020-05-15 11:28:13 AM  

inglixthemad: NeoCortex42: If?  Try "when".

Also, he'll be backseat driving the entirety of the next administration. It's up to the press to just ignore him once he's out of office.

Honestly, I doubt he'd follow through. First off it could (would) generate a lot of terminal problems for himself, and Pence, from the military.

Let's say that doesn't happen. There'd be a lot of pissed off libs spoiling for a fight if he riled up his base to engage in conflict, and I don't mean words or spitballs. He'd find out how little Meal Team Six is worth in a fight, very, very,  quickly.


If he loses he is going to troll non-stop. Especially if SDNY is making his life miserable.
 
2020-05-15 11:29:52 AM  

BMulligan: Action Replay Nick: The coup by Trump and his supporters will be a success. Who will stop him? Law enforcement and the military are overrun with white supremacists. I can't even recall the last time I saw a cop in the news that wasn't a roided out skinhead.

Why do you insist upon treating this incompetent boob like a brilliant supervillain? His only real power comes from people who refuse to see him as the bad joke he is, and take him seriously. He's not an evil genius or a master tactician. He's a film-flam man, and you're just another sucker.


The problem is not Trump himself specifically. The problem is his enablers. He has a lot of enablers and a not insignificant number of them are in positions of authority.
 
2020-05-15 11:30:38 AM  

HansoSparxx: BMulligan: SoupGuru: You guys are cute, thinking there's going to be an election.

Oh, FFS.

You would be wise to consider the fact that he is going to try his best to prevent an election from happening and historically speaking - Nobody is going to stop him.


An election? There are 50 of 'em - plus the territories. He will actively try to suppress turnout, but he can't cancel 'the election' - it's not one - its several dozen of them.
 
2020-05-15 11:30:43 AM  
I have no doubt Trump will not concede, and will whip his supporters into a violent defense. You think the Secret Service will eject Trump, when there's 10,000 armed Trumpers surrounding the White House?

There will be assassinations of Democratic congressmen/women. There will be assassinations of Democratic governors. There will be armed militias roaming, with little scrutiny from police. Do not underestimate the level of cult commitment these fascists have for their Dear Leader.
 
2020-05-15 11:31:51 AM  
Put Rupert Murdoc in stocks in the town square and make sure a supply of rotten vegetables is readily available. While fomenting sedition and insurrection is normally punishable by death I don't think we want to waste any valuable guillotine time on that guy.
 
2020-05-15 11:31:58 AM  

HerptheDerp: edmo: NeoCortex42: If?  Try "when".

Also, he'll be backseat driving the entirety of the next administration. It's up to the press to just ignore him once he's out of office.

Just how long will that old fart live anyway?

Cheney has proven, if you're evil and corrupt enough then Hell doesn't want you and never comes to collect, so you become immortal.


Kissenger proved it first. That genocidal asshole is still polluting the earth.
 
2020-05-15 11:34:31 AM  

gunga galunga: Would Fox News as a company be on board with it? I don't know about that. Sure, the most sycophantic of the Trumphumpers may be screaming "coup", like Client #3, Frau Ingraham, and Judge Lush, but I kinda suspect that Rupert Murdoch is tired of his network being a cheerleader to a pathetic moron and would be glad to switch the narrative to focusing on how Joe Biden is an even worse President that Obama.


Lachlan actually runs FN these days, and it has been reported that the channel embarrasses him.
 
2020-05-15 11:35:46 AM  
Republicans no longer acknowledge the legitimacy of non-Republican rule.  The nation is going to find that out very quickly if the Democrats manage to regain majority power.  It's 1860 all over again, though it won't be a clearly defined civil war so much as mass outbreaks of right-wing terrorism.
 
2020-05-15 11:37:08 AM  

SoupGuru: I don't think you guys are thinking outside the box enough. I mean, it will be amazing how many instances of election fraud and tampering and conspiracies are happening in Democratically leaning districts so the FBI will be needed to cordon off the polling places through election day. Vote by mail, turns out the Post Office can't meet their obligations and will need to furlough most of the work force. Martial law, anyone on the streets will be arrested. Poll workers all arrested. And the election will come out in Trumps favor and there will be lawsuits and he'll be president while it works its way through the courts.


It won't be the FBI blocking key polling locations...it will be armed freedom fighters like the ones we are seeing in MI right now.    They will take their massive guns and harrass minority voters in swing states.

And president Trump will say the violence is awful on both sides...just awful.   But many are saying that illegals are overrunning our elections and must be stopped.   Many people!


Then,  when he wins re-election and stacks the Supreme Court,  the 14th amendment will be reinterpreted to strip millions of their voting rights and make voting impossibly hard for millions more.


This is the future we are fighting against!
 
2020-05-15 11:38:03 AM  
Bring it, fatboi
 
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