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(Calvin Ayre)   Casino sees a mass firing by Zoom meeting and raises by firing via voicemail   (calvinayre.com) divider line
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2020-05-15 9:00:55 AM  
Long distance directory assistance area code 212
Say hey, A&R this is Mister Rhythm And Blues
He said, "Hello" and put me on hold
To say the least the cat was cold
He said, "Don't call us child, we'll call you"

Don't call us, we'll call you
Don't call us, we'll call you
 
2020-05-15 9:44:06 AM  
I guess you could say...

takes off glasses,

They crapped out.

YEEEAAAHHHH....
 
2020-05-15 9:56:04 AM  
I was a little curious about the site, so I scrolled to the footer. Which was promptly bumped offscreen again (giant screen, btw) by autoloading another article. So that was fun.
 
2020-05-15 9:56:38 AM  
I need coffee. It took me a couple minutes to parse that headline properly.
 
2020-05-15 9:57:06 AM  
I wonder if the 200 remaining employees are all Executives and HR reps?
 
2020-05-15 9:58:33 AM  
So are these companies supposed to call people into the office just to fire them?  How is that better than using zoom?
 
2020-05-15 10:01:36 AM  
Jokes on them. I don't check my voice mail.
 
2020-05-15 10:05:57 AM  
We're all in this together.
 
2020-05-15 10:07:09 AM  
For some reason, "ethical" and "casino operator" don't really hit me as congruent pursuits....

Last I heard, some of the on line betting apps were taking wagers on Korean Baseball.

If you're betting on Korean baseball, and you're not a professional gambler, you may want to think about a new hobby...
 
2020-05-15 10:07:15 AM  
They should let them pick a number between 0 and 36 and then spin the roulette wheel to see who the lucky ones are that get to get their jobs.  And it's .... 00!  Awww, sorry, you all lost.
 
2020-05-15 10:08:18 AM  
Well, at least it is better than your head being used to open the door when you vacate the premises.
 
2020-05-15 10:11:02 AM  
I work in casino gaming and got furloughed via a pdf attachment to an email.

To be fair, my boss called right away and walked me through the steps on when everything would be shut off.  A new VP called me personally and said he looked forward to working with me as soon as he could.

With any luck, should be back to remote work next week.

With that many employees and most on furlough, I can see where someone thought a VM was most efficient.  Not that I agree with it, I just understand.
 
2020-05-15 10:17:00 AM  
Profits before people, its the Capitalist way!
 
2020-05-15 10:19:04 AM  

Sloppy Wreck: I work in casino gaming and got furloughed via a pdf attachment to an email.

To be fair, my boss called right away and walked me through the steps on when everything would be shut off.  A new VP called me personally and said he looked forward to working with me as soon as he could.

With any luck, should be back to remote work next week.

With that many employees and most on furlough, I can see where someone thought a VM was most efficient.  Not that I agree with it, I just understand.


No, it's fine. In those business circles, "efficient" means "ethical", because it's a sin to waste money on things that you no longer employ.
Oops, I meant people. But there I go, being inefficient, again. I'll never enter the Divine Treasury at this rate.
 
2020-05-15 10:24:36 AM  
String bets are illegal in casinos, Subby.
 
2020-05-15 10:25:35 AM  
The headline misses the point that the firing wasn't even a live person's leaving a voicemail, it was a robocall in the first place.
 
2020-05-15 10:25:43 AM  
Yeah, only marginally better than a mass text message.
Anyone remember phone trees?
Most organizations (AFAIK) have management broken down so at the end of the line, a supervisor has 5 or 6 people under them, so it wouldn't have been that hard to have the "C" level call the Dept level, and them call the Shift level, to have them call the workers and begin the "Mark? Cindy here, bad news. We've been terminated ..." conversation.
 
2020-05-15 10:28:42 AM  
I'd rather be let go that way than get the " Can we see you for a minute?" schtick, you know, when you know what that phrase means and have to do the walk of shame from your desk, wondering if you should have grabbed your wallet, phone, and keys first, to the conference room where you see (insert the name of any chubby picked on through school "now it's time for revenge on the world" HR lady) sitting there to give you the news with that phony biatchy voice and smile.

/ If you work in corporate Amerika you know exactly what I mean.
// Just leave a VM on my phone at 5 am, save me the trouble of getting up and going in. I'll contact HR myself for my package and arrange my Saturday office cleanout thanks..
 
2020-05-15 10:29:46 AM  
I fire people via telepathy, and it is their fault when they come in tresspassing and they still think they have a job.
 
2020-05-15 10:34:33 AM  
Too many blueberries in the muffins.
 
2020-05-15 10:34:56 AM  
"Pick a hand"

*points at a hand*

"Oh, too bad.  That one says 'You're fired!'.  Just kidding...they both say that"
 
2020-05-15 10:45:28 AM  

rolladuck: Sloppy Wreck: I work in casino gaming and got furloughed via a pdf attachment to an email.

To be fair, my boss called right away and walked me through the steps on when everything would be shut off.  A new VP called me personally and said he looked forward to working with me as soon as he could.

With any luck, should be back to remote work next week.

With that many employees and most on furlough, I can see where someone thought a VM was most efficient.  Not that I agree with it, I just understand.

No, it's fine. In those business circles, "efficient" means "ethical", because it's a sin to waste money on things that you no longer employ.
Oops, I meant people. But there I go, being inefficient, again. I'll never enter the Divine Treasury at this rate.


It was called the Great Material Continuum.
 
2020-05-15 10:54:55 AM  

Ebenator: We're all in this together.


If it's all the same to you, you can keep your firings to yourself
 
2020-05-15 10:59:48 AM  
"We would have liked to have given you more notice to this action but were unable to do so because of how quickly and unexpectedly our operations were affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. These decisions are never made lightly, and we deeply regret the hardships it places on you and your family."


This COVID thing just popped up out of nowhere a few months ago!
 
2020-05-15 11:00:12 AM  
The company I worked for over twenty one years (and was a principal in before it was sold), called me up while I was on vacation and fired me over the phone.   I knew as soon as the head of the division and the HR person from some other division called that:

1.   I was being fired.
2.   They already fired my HR person.
 
2020-05-15 11:05:09 AM  

jack_o_the_hills: I'd rather be let go that way than get the " Can we see you for a minute?" schtick, you know, when you know what that phrase means and have to do the walk of shame from your desk, wondering if you should have grabbed your wallet, phone, and keys first, to the conference room where you see (insert the name of any chubby picked on through school "now it's time for revenge on the world" HR lady) sitting there to give you the news with that phony biatchy voice and smile.

/ If you work in corporate Amerika you know exactly what I mean.
// Just leave a VM on my phone at 5 am, save me the trouble of getting up and going in. I'll contact HR myself for my package and arrange my Saturday office cleanout thanks..


Worked with a guy who would invite soon-to-be ex employees to their termination sessions with 'You got a minute?'

Turns out the question mark was superfluous
 
2020-05-15 11:08:37 AM  

ImmutableTenderloin: Profits before people, its the Capitalist way!


Just curious, what kind of business do you own and how many employees do you have on staff?
 
2020-05-15 11:09:08 AM  
I worked for a company that had a bunch of picnic tables outside that people often ate their lunch on.  They said that they bought everyone pizza for lunch and that everyone was to go outside to eat pizza.  When the last person walked out they locked the doors behind them.  Security then escorted everyone, one at a time, back to their desks to get their stuff.  There wasn't even any pizza.
 
2020-05-15 11:20:26 AM  
String raise. Illegal firing. They are only. Allowed to fire as many people as were fired by zoom and wait for the next round.
 
2020-05-15 11:22:27 AM  
"[Cheerful voice] Hello, ex-employee. This is a courtesy call to inform you that your position has been terminated. If you wish to discuss this with HR, press '1' now. *Presses 1* Your request to speak with HR has been [gravely voice] rejected. [Cheerful voice] Thank you for working with us. We wish success in your future endvoers. Good bye. *click*"
 
2020-05-15 11:27:29 AM  

ImmutableTenderloin: Profits before people, its the Capitalist way!


This is a casino we are talking about, not a charity.
 
2020-05-15 11:49:09 AM  
What a Casio Zoom may look like.
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2020-05-15 11:53:30 AM  
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They added a Casino on the fifth floor!
 
2020-05-15 11:56:46 AM  

Trocadero: rolladuck: Sloppy Wreck: I work in casino gaming and got furloughed via a pdf attachment to an email.

To be fair, my boss called right away and walked me through the steps on when everything would be shut off.  A new VP called me personally and said he looked forward to working with me as soon as he could.

With any luck, should be back to remote work next week.

With that many employees and most on furlough, I can see where someone thought a VM was most efficient.  Not that I agree with it, I just understand.

No, it's fine. In those business circles, "efficient" means "ethical", because it's a sin to waste money on things that you no longer employ.
Oops, I meant people. But there I go, being inefficient, again. I'll never enter the Divine Treasury at this rate.

It was called the Great Material Continuum.


The Great Material Continuum was what guided goods from people who had them to people who needed them.  Like Ferengi Karma.

The Divine Treasury was where the Blessed Exchequer would reward profitable Ferengi with their eternal reward after making their bids with the Celestial Auctioneers.
The Vault of Eternal Destitution was the eternal punishment for unprofitable Ferengi.

I know way too much about Ferengi Mythology. I blame Trump.
 
2020-05-15 12:19:41 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: I wonder if the 200 remaining employees are all Executives and HR reps?


You have keep the talent
 
2020-05-15 12:21:37 PM  

mcmnky: Jokes on them. I don't check my voice mail.


Worked out pretty well for this guy:

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/hopefully there's a glitch in payroll
 
2020-05-15 1:26:50 PM  
Call them back and informed them that you've never worked for them
 
2020-05-15 1:29:09 PM  
One place I worked scheduled an all-hands meeting for the following Tuesday.  Five minutes before the meeting, I was called into the manager's office and fired.  The purpose of the meeting was to tell everyone else I was gone.
 
2020-05-15 1:29:12 PM  
Calling 1500 employees is a pretty major undertaking. You know they'll all have questions, and even averaging 3 minutes per call that's still 75 hours worth of calls to make. Assuming they call during business hours of 9-5, that's over 9 days worth of calling if it's just one person doing it. And honestly, is there even a good way to be fired?
 
2020-05-15 1:36:15 PM  
Terrible Herbst bought buffalo bills and invited everyone to a appreciation dinner.
Then fired everyone ( just re-apply at 1/2 pay ) and charged for the dinner.

F*u*c*k them.
 
2020-05-15 1:40:12 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Calling 1500 employees is a pretty major undertaking. You know they'll all have questions, and even averaging 3 minutes per call that's still 75 hours worth of calls to make. Assuming they call during business hours of 9-5, that's over 9 days worth of calling if it's just one person doing it. And honestly, is there even a good way to be fired?


Agreed I get the logic, you want everyone to get the announcement at the same time.
 
2020-05-15 2:34:34 PM  
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2020-05-15 2:44:27 PM  
So you just shiat canned lots of people that know where you keep the money and layout. Sure in no way this will come back at you.
 
2020-05-15 3:14:24 PM  
Subby, and all the rest of the farkers, I want to beat you over the head.

They were not "fired". They were "laid off".

Since so many of you, esp. subby, haven't come out of their mom's basement in years, let me explain the difference: if you're "fired", it has to be FOR CAUSE, and you cannot file for unemployment. if you are "laid off" (aka RIFfed, downsized, etc) you get unemployment.

Is that clear enough: no money vs money.
 
2020-05-15 3:27:48 PM  

whitroth: Subby, and all the rest of the farkers, I want to beat you over the head.

They were not "fired". They were "laid off".

Since so many of you, esp. subby, haven't come out of their mom's basement in years, let me explain the difference: if you're "fired", it has to be FOR CAUSE, and you cannot file for unemployment. if you are "laid off" (aka RIFfed, downsized, etc) you get unemployment.

Is that clear enough: no money vs money.


You are wrong. But at least you're committed and passionate about being wrong, so you've got that going for you.

Nevada, like the vast majority of states in the US, is an at-will employment state. Unless you have an employment contract that says otherwise, you can be fired for a good reason, for a bad reason, for a silly reason, or for no reason whatsoever. You just can't be fired for a very small number of illegal reasons, like discrimination and whistleblower retaliation.

It's true that you can't collect Nevada unemployment if you were terminated for cause. But the label that the employer puts on the termination doesn't control that.
 
2020-05-15 4:22:11 PM  
I can imagine...

If you'd like to be escorted out by security please press 1!
If you'd like to take a dump on your bosses desk on the way out please press 2!
If you'd like to steal office supplies, please press 3!
If you'd like to continue paying your bills, please hang up and dial the unemployment line!
All other questions, please hang up and ask someone else.
 
2020-05-15 4:26:25 PM  
Shockingly, Sheldon Adelson has been exemplary in taking care of the employees of the Venetian and Palazzo.

No layoffs, no firings, get paid up to 32 hours per week, some extra compensation for tipped employees, benefits still in place.

Completely upfront with what is going on, and sent people home with boxed lunches on the last day.

Scorecard of Vegas casinos
 
2020-05-15 4:28:20 PM  

Callous: I worked for a company that had a bunch of picnic tables outside that people often ate their lunch on.  They said that they bought everyone pizza for lunch and that everyone was to go outside to eat pizza.  When the last person walked out they locked the doors behind them.  Security then escorted everyone, one at a time, back to their desks to get their stuff.  There wasn't even any pizza.


I'm sure there was at least one person thinking "Yeah that sucks, but can't we take care of that after the pizza?" 🍕
 
2020-05-15 5:09:43 PM  

KickahaOta: whitroth: Subby, and all the rest of the farkers, I want to beat you over the head.

They were not "fired". They were "laid off".

Since so many of you, esp. subby, haven't come out of their mom's basement in years, let me explain the difference: if you're "fired", it has to be FOR CAUSE, and you cannot file for unemployment. if you are "laid off" (aka RIFfed, downsized, etc) you get unemployment.

Is that clear enough: no money vs money.

You are wrong. But at least you're committed and passionate about being wrong, so you've got that going for you.

Nevada, like the vast majority of states in the US, is an at-will employment state. Unless you have an employment contract that says otherwise, you can be fired for a good reason, for a bad reason, for a silly reason, or for no reason whatsoever. You just can't be fired for a very small number of illegal reasons, like discrimination and whistleblower retaliation.

It's true that you can't collect Nevada unemployment if you were terminated for cause. But the label that the employer puts on the termination doesn't control that.


a) The vast majority of the states in the US are not "right to be fired" states.
b) fired v. laid off is true in PA, TX, IL, FL, and MD.
 
2020-05-15 8:04:44 PM  

buckeyebrain: String bets are illegal in casinos, Subby.


That's one thing about Ocean's 11 that drives me nuts. Russ is teaching celebrities to play poker, yet he allows string bets.
 
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