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(Some Guy)   Trump pressures CDC to lower Covid-19 death count by changing calculation method. The Virus will be gone by next week, and the chocolate ration has increased to 20 grams   (truthout.org) divider line
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2020-05-13 7:14:48 PM  
Double plus good points to subby for the subtle reference.
 
2020-05-13 7:43:29 PM  
"....officials who are aligned with Trump's view have been pushing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to revise how it calculates the number who have died, in order to show a lower count. As of Wednesday morning, more than 83,000 deaths from coronavirus have been reported within the United States.

Some of those pressuring the CDC include members of the White House coronavirus task force, including Deborah Birx, who serves as the response coordinator for the team."
 
2020-05-13 8:07:52 PM  
Where is the jackhole who called me a conspiracy nutter?
 
2020-05-13 8:23:50 PM  
You can't gaslight the dead.
 
2020-05-13 8:47:33 PM  
Yes men gonna yes
 
2020-05-13 8:48:38 PM  
my disturbing thought : Now that our country's enemies can observe how horribly we respond to a pandemic, and how willing we are to risk others for our own selfish want, why would they not pursue the ability to craft a new, even deadlier virus?  

Some may advance the conspiracy theory that Covid-19 was lab-made. But that just makes this thought even worse. They could then easily release another, and we would suck at responding to that as well.

Republicans should hope Covid-19 is as virologists and epidemiologists claim; an accidental mutation.
 
2020-05-13 8:57:45 PM  
We're going to get chocolate in our government food boxes trump said we're coming?
 
2020-05-13 8:58:06 PM  

arrogantbastich: We're going to get chocolate in our government food boxes trump said were coming?


Ugh, FTFM.
 
2020-05-13 9:14:08 PM  

muck1969: my disturbing thought : Now that our country's enemies can observe how horribly we respond to a pandemic, and how willing we are to risk others for our own selfish want, why would they not pursue the ability to craft a new, even deadlier virus?  

Some may advance the conspiracy theory that Covid-19 was lab-made. But that just makes this thought even worse. They could then easily release another, and we would suck at responding to that as well.

Republicans should hope Covid-19 is as virologists and epidemiologists claim; an accidental mutation.


Two reasons:

1. Covid has shown how difficult it would be to keep a new super virus from spreading to their country also.

2. Starting in January, America will be under adult supervision again (I hope).
 
2020-05-13 9:36:51 PM  
Just a quick update from a prior post of mine...

☑ Do something willfully negligent
☑ Admit thing was done didn't fix anything
☑ Stay the course
Suppress and deflect mounting evidence of bad decision that desperately needs reversing.
Continue staying the course as people die in droves, claim you're doing an awesome job and things could be worse.
☐ Someone needs to be held accountable now that there's concrete proof of wrongdoing. Definitely not person responsible.
☐ Stay the course, "because it's too late to do anything now. Better just push through."
☐ It's too soon to talk about all those deaths or changing things, otherwise they died for nothing.
 
2020-05-13 11:02:59 PM  
If they're going to change the count to include every death that is a result of COVID-19, they need to also include corral pet deaths that resulted from the government's ineptitude, for example suicides of people who lost their jobs, people who died because they had no health insurance, and people who died of other diseases because they couldn't get proper treatment.
 
2020-05-13 11:07:18 PM  
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2020-05-13 11:36:12 PM  
They calculate seasonal flu deaths the same way, but the mouth breathers don't care about that. If anything they will bring up regular flu death stats more if they revise the numbers and use a different method to calculate covid than using the flu method.
 
2020-05-13 11:36:29 PM  
Typical Trump: prioritise appearance over substance, or to put it another way, prioritise how things might reflect on him over what is actually happening.
 
2020-05-13 11:42:02 PM  
Laffer's comments are laffable.
 
2020-05-13 11:43:13 PM  
It's contradictory of his entire ethos but it would actually be beneficial to take all the heat and blame and then reverse course in his actions even so late.  But yeah he's not going to do that
/advice to a lost cause unmoored president
 
2020-05-13 11:44:18 PM  
Choco rations now stand at 20. Up from 30.
 
2020-05-13 11:45:04 PM  
It is a fair criticism that the two numbers aren't presented separately (confirmed + suspected = probable). When almost 40% of the deaths are happening in nursing homes, a third category of 'straw that broke the camels back' might also be worth tracking. It's also worth considering all of the people rooting for a higher reported death toll to lay at Trumps feet. There is a lot of political gaming afoot on both sides.
 
2020-05-13 11:45:40 PM  
Because why the f*ck not?

Queen - Under Pressure (Official Video)
Youtube a01QQZyl-_I
 
2020-05-13 11:46:15 PM  
Can you imagine if the Trump administration had been in power during the Ebola scare a few years back?
 
2020-05-13 11:46:55 PM  

muck1969: my disturbing thought : Now that our country's enemies can observe how horribly we respond to a pandemic, and how willing we are to risk others for our own selfish want, why would they not pursue the ability to craft a new, even deadlier virus?  

Some may advance the conspiracy theory that Covid-19 was lab-made. But that just makes this thought even worse. They could then easily release another, and we would suck at responding to that as well.

Republicans should hope Covid-19 is as virologists and epidemiologists claim; an accidental mutation.


Crafting a new virus costs a lot of money. The current strategy of buying republican legislators for the cost of used powder blue Nissan Stanza and a few facebook posts targeted at people with the critical thinking skills of a five year old seems to be working great.
 
2020-05-13 11:47:39 PM  
Death count. Bank account. Whatever, fiddle the numbers to make him happy.
 
2020-05-13 11:51:42 PM  
You could get that down a bit more by switching to hexadecimal.
I make it 142C46 confirmed cases, 13712 deaths using WHO numbers.
 
2020-05-13 11:51:54 PM  
His greatest gift is denying reality and substituting his own. It's a big hit for people who can't see past their own noses.
 
2020-05-13 11:52:05 PM  

GrinzGrimly: It is a fair criticism that the two numbers aren't presented separately (confirmed + suspected = probable). When almost 40% of the deaths are happening in nursing homes, a third category of 'straw that broke the camels back' might also be worth tracking. It's also worth considering all of the people rooting for a higher reported death toll to lay at Trumps feet. There is a lot of political gaming afoot on both sides.


We know that the number of deaths is either massively understated or some other unknown ongoing event is killing tens of thousands of people.

Adding more confusion is pointless.
 
2020-05-13 11:52:19 PM  
Except no one outside of MAGAland will believe those fudged numbers, which by the way still make the US response to COVID-19 look amateurish and hackneyed compared to even third world "shiathole" countries.
 
2020-05-13 11:53:28 PM  

muck1969: my disturbing thought : Now that our country's enemies can observe how horribly we respond to a pandemic, and how willing we are to risk others for our own selfish want, why would they not pursue the ability to craft a new, even deadlier virus?  

Some may advance the conspiracy theory that Covid-19 was lab-made. But that just makes this thought even worse. They could then easily release another, and we would suck at responding to that as well.

Republicans should hope Covid-19 is as virologists and epidemiologists claim; an accidental mutation.



I've been saying that it's the scariest part of this whole thing for a while now. My fam looked at me like I had a tinfoil hat on.
 
2020-05-13 11:54:46 PM  
This might be the wrong thread, but I have heard that this is the new campaign song for team trump

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It is by the , who is that ? Oh, right. It seems that the Dead Kennedys filed a cease and desist as one "Jello Biafra" issued a strongly worded statement saying that his song was not to be taken as a way to be, but as a hypothetical monster person depicted, and everyone involved in using his material "would do better work with a bowl of rice and a gun in your back all day" .

Jane ?


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Thats nice Dan.

Lets just roll the NSFW song, you idiot

Dead Kennedys - I Kill Children
Youtube TtqPlB-oC4w
 
2020-05-13 11:55:45 PM  

GrinzGrimly: It is a fair criticism that the two numbers aren't presented separately (confirmed + suspected = probable). When almost 40% of the deaths are happening in nursing homes, a third category of 'straw that broke the camels back' might also be worth tracking. It's also worth considering all of the people rooting for a higher reported death toll to lay at Trumps feet. There is a lot of political gaming afoot on both sides.


one side a tad bit more than the other side
 
2020-05-13 11:56:19 PM  

muck1969: my disturbing thought : Now that our country's enemies can observe how horribly we respond to a pandemic, and how willing we are to risk others for our own selfish want, why would they not pursue the ability to craft a new, even deadlier virus?  

Some may advance the conspiracy theory that Covid-19 was lab-made. But that just makes this thought even worse. They could then easily release another, and we would suck at responding to that as well.

Republicans should hope Covid-19 is as virologists and epidemiologists claim; an accidental mutation.


Yea. Bet that Wuhan medical lab fired up covid-20 to finish us off after obamagate fails and we have to beat China. Because. November.
 
2020-05-13 11:57:06 PM  

GardenWeasel: Where is the jackhole who called me a conspiracy nutter?


Preparing those goalposts for maximum mobility.  They won't move themselves, you know.
 
2020-05-13 11:57:06 PM  
It's always doubleplusgood when chocolate rations are rectified!
Double Plus Good - Eurythmics - 1984
Youtube OsqW5xYg2_w
 
2020-05-13 11:57:52 PM  

Dare to keep slugs off kids: [Fark user image image 650x433]


Such pretty flowers!
 
2020-05-13 11:58:31 PM  
The virus don't care.
The virus kills indiscriminately.

Fudging the numbers won't bring grandma back from the dead, and won't magically make everybody run out to the mall to get they nails did.

Everywhere you see people opening up too soon, or gathering in large groups, or not taking precautions, there's an uptick in cases.

Including, I should add, the White House.
 
2020-05-14 12:00:25 AM  
Fark your 20 grams, Subby!  I'll take my 0.71 ounces for good measure!
 
2020-05-14 12:00:41 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Except no one outside of MAGAland will believe those fudged numbers, which by the way still make the US response to COVID-19 look amateurish and hackneyed compared to even third world "shiathole" countries.


You know we're the third largest country in the world and by far the largest nation of free, prosperous, diverse, mobile citizens.  It's a huge and unique challenge we have.  It is not surprising our deaths per capita are in the top 10.  On top of that, almost half of the deaths are in the NYC area. That issue is pretty specific, not general to America.
 
2020-05-14 12:01:43 AM  
Hooray! Let's BS the.stats!

Or, you know, we could use something more accurate.

Use the normal death rate in America and compare that death rate that we are cute experiencing.
 
2020-05-14 12:02:12 AM  
Currently experiencing* damn phone.
 
2020-05-14 12:04:01 AM  
1) Repubs are officially a death cult
2) Sorry you died, you don't count.
3) This is getting to be a problem. As in, farking nazi rise to power kind of a problem
4) Dying as an American from this means you don't matter.
 
2020-05-14 12:04:26 AM  
The US is already under reporting the numbers by a significant factor.  Demanding they reduce it further is just partisan political bullshiat.

Which is completely par for the course for this asshole.
 
2020-05-14 12:05:07 AM  

Murkanen: The US is already under reporting the numbers by a significant factor.  Demanding they reduce it further is just partisan political bullshiat.

Which is completely par for the course for this asshole.


Good to see you Murkanen.
 
2020-05-14 12:08:07 AM  

GrinzGrimly: fragMasterFlash: Except no one outside of MAGAland will believe those fudged numbers, which by the way still make the US response to COVID-19 look amateurish and hackneyed compared to even third world "shiathole" countries.

You know we're the third largest country in the world and by far the largest nation of free, prosperous, diverse, mobile citizens.  It's a huge and unique challenge we have.  It is not surprising our deaths per capita are in the top 10.  On top of that, almost half of the deaths are in the NYC area. That issue is pretty specific, not general to America.


So don't we then deserve leadership that is cognizant of the hazards faced by a free and open society? Not even North Korea is telling people to ingest household disinfectants and cram lightbulbs up their privates but here in the USA its a shiatshow free-for-all being run by a grifter who only cares about lining his own pockets.
 
2020-05-14 12:10:19 AM  
Turns out that there are too many people with a clue and too many Republicans part of the COVID response for the anti-expertise thing to get enough traction. They need the numbers reported to be low. Not the number dead.
 
2020-05-14 12:14:08 AM  

Spice Must Flow: Dare to keep slugs off kids: [Fark user image image 650x433]

Such pretty flowers!


I've been playing with agates and different fractals for that "diseased" appearance...
 
2020-05-14 12:16:06 AM  
Why was this greened then ungreened?
 
2020-05-14 12:16:40 AM  
An
d now greened again. Ow, my eyes
 
2020-05-14 12:17:07 AM  
Slam the brakes on reporting? Do they really think that's going to matter in a month? Two?
 
2020-05-14 12:21:43 AM  

sirrerun: The virus don't care.
The virus kills indiscriminately.

Fudging the numbers won't bring grandma back from the dead, and won't magically make everybody run out to the mall to get they nails did.

Everywhere you see people opening up too soon, or gathering in large groups, or not taking precautions, there's an uptick in cases.

Including, I should add, the White House.


Yeah, it's completely irrelevant, except to stupid douchebags who think that numbers are all that matters, and as long as we can say "Oh! Look! Our numbers are going down!" it means that the numbers are going down.

It's a reverse MacNamara Syndrome: We were killing more of the enemy than the NVA, therefore, we were winning the war. Now: We have fewer dead of COVID than [insert country with lowest stats here] therefore, we are winning.

Either way, we're using the wrong metric, people are still dying, resources are still being drained, and oversight is not being maintained. But hey! Why learn from history, amirite.
 
2020-05-14 12:21:53 AM  
brix will change it as she sucks his dick.  She has already sold her soul, so f*ck her.
 
2020-05-14 12:24:42 AM  

fragMasterFlash: GrinzGrimly: fragMasterFlash: Except no one outside of MAGAland will believe those fudged numbers, which by the way still make the US response to COVID-19 look amateurish and hackneyed compared to even third world "shiathole" countries.

You know we're the third largest country in the world and by far the largest nation of free, prosperous, diverse, mobile citizens.  It's a huge and unique challenge we have.  It is not surprising our deaths per capita are in the top 10.  On top of that, almost half of the deaths are in the NYC area. That issue is pretty specific, not general to America.

So don't we then deserve leadership that is cognizant of the hazards faced by a free and open society? Not even North Korea is telling people to ingest household disinfectants and cram lightbulbs up their privates but here in the USA its a shiatshow free-for-all being run by a grifter who only cares about lining his own pockets.


You know, Biden was the only one who said 'Drink Bleach'. Trump said it would be great if we could find something LIKE a disinfectant that could kill the virus in the body quickly, through injection. Inject versus ingest might be splitting hairs, but Biden coined the phrase 'drink bleach'.

This is going to be a bigger problem in a free and open society by its very nature. In Vietnam if you test positive, you're basically arrested and placed in detention for two weeks. It's effective, but it definitely wouldn't fly here. No way I'd trade places, you have to take some bad with the good.
 
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