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2020-05-12 10:18:57 AM  
Yes they were.
 
2020-05-12 12:47:10 PM  

phlegmjay: Yes they were.


When?
 
2020-05-12 1:16:02 PM  
I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35
 
2020-05-12 1:18:52 PM  

deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35


Oh get ready for some Fark backlash.
 
2020-05-12 1:20:43 PM  

deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

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2020-05-12 1:34:44 PM  

phlegmjay: Yes they were.


This isn't an argument. It's just contradiction.
 
2020-05-12 1:37:15 PM  

Buttknuckle: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

Oh get ready for some Fark backlash.


I guess im just a glutton for punishment.

It's kind of like the old, OLD, SNL skits. It does nothing for me.
 
2020-05-12 1:40:08 PM  
I liked The Money Pit
 
2020-05-12 2:08:11 PM  
And now...


The Larch
 
2020-05-12 2:10:32 PM  

yabun: phlegmjay: Yes they were.

This isn't an argument. It's just contradiction.


Well, if we're going to have an argument, I must take up a contrary position.
 
2020-05-12 2:11:34 PM  

deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35


Who pranged YOUR kite?
 
2020-05-12 2:16:17 PM  
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2020-05-12 2:35:11 PM  

deanis: Buttknuckle: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

Oh get ready for some Fark backlash.

I guess im just a glutton for punishment.

It's kind of like the old, OLD, SNL skits. It does nothing for me.



How can you not laugh like a loon at this?  Seven minutes of comedy perfection.


Every Sperm is Sacred - Complete
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2020-05-12 2:44:55 PM  

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Username checks out.
 
2020-05-12 2:50:50 PM  
My money is on Salad Days being the sketch that made me stand up and laugh a lunchtime. A whole lunchtime.
 
2020-05-12 3:10:44 PM  

deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35


There are many valid reasons they are revered, and many valid reasons why they seem unimpressive to modern eyes. The comparison to the Beatles is apt.

Part of it is that they were so influential that everything that came after has Monty Python in their DNA, masking the originality if you come to the source later. "I don't see why the big deal about Hamlet is; It's just actors on stage spouting one cliche after another."

Another part is that the timelines of their humor is lost now that society has changed. They were very progressive for their time mocking the conservative post-WWII stuffy British status quo. In a time when respectable business men really were supposed to wear bowler hats and a women in pants trousers was still "mod". The things they were satirizing are unrecognizable today. In context, what they were doing was much more rebellious than showing two men kissing on broadcast TV is today.

Another part is that they were pushing the boundaries of what you could get away with on television, slipping stuff past the censors because nobody was watching. But standards have changed so much that it looks positively prudish. The irony is that they had a part in the evolution of those standards.

And lastly, the movies are fun and where they got their commercial success, but were already capitalizing on fan familiarity. The TV show was their best work.

Brilliant, clever, influential, deserving of great respect for their achievement and contribution. Okay that it doesn't captivate modern audiences. See also: The Beatles, Citizen Kane, Buster Keaton, Mozart, Shakespeare, Homer.
 
2020-05-12 3:11:53 PM  

deanis: Buttknuckle: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

Oh get ready for some Fark backlash.

I guess im just a glutton for punishment.

It's kind of like the old, OLD, SNL skits. It does nothing for me.


We can't all be soulless and dead.  How's married life treating you?
 
2020-05-12 3:17:03 PM  

LindenFark: and a women in pants trousers slacks was still "mod".


/teeny
//tiny
///edit
 
2020-05-12 3:30:47 PM  
I've watched Python for years starting with them being on our local PBS station's Sunday night Britcom lineup.

I was a weird kid and my parents made sure they recognized and subtly teased me about  it.

Flash-forward to 2010 and my widowed mother calls me up the day after a date and tells me she's just seen the funniest damn movie she's ever seen - Monty Python And the Holy Grail.

/vindication
 
2020-05-12 3:43:57 PM  

LindenFark: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

There are many valid reasons they are revered, and many valid reasons why they seem unimpressive to modern eyes. The comparison to the Beatles is apt.

Part of it is that they were so influential that everything that came after has Monty Python in their DNA, masking the originality if you come to the source later. "I don't see why the big deal about Hamlet is; It's just actors on stage spouting one cliche after another."

Another part is that the timelines of their humor is lost now that society has changed. They were very progressive for their time mocking the conservative post-WWII stuffy British status quo. In a time when respectable business men really were supposed to wear bowler hats and a women in pants trousers was still "mod". The things they were satirizing are unrecognizable today. In context, what they were doing was much more rebellious than showing two men kissing on broadcast TV is today.

Another part is that they were pushing the boundaries of what you could get away with on television, slipping stuff past the censors because nobody was watching. But standards have changed so much that it looks positively prudish. The irony is that they had a part in the evolution of those standards.

And lastly, the movies are fun and where they got their commercial success, but were already capitalizing on fan familiarity. The TV show was their best work.

Brilliant, clever, influential, deserving of great respect for their achievement and contribution. Okay that it doesn't captivate modern audiences. See also: The Beatles, Citizen Kane, Buster Keaton, Mozart, Shakespeare, Homer.


Very good, thank you!
 
2020-05-12 3:47:27 PM  

deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35


There is something wrong with you.
 
2020-05-12 3:55:42 PM  

Gramma: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

There is something wrong with you.


You're right, but that's nothing new.

I love comedy.
 
2020-05-12 4:52:29 PM  

deanis: LindenFark: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

There are many valid reasons they are revered, and many valid reasons why they seem unimpressive to modern eyes. The comparison to the Beatles is apt.

Part of it is that they were so influential that everything that came after has Monty Python in their DNA, masking the originality if you come to the source later. "I don't see why the big deal about Hamlet is; It's just actors on stage spouting one cliche after another."

Another part is that the timelines of their humor is lost now that society has changed. They were very progressive for their time mocking the conservative post-WWII stuffy British status quo. In a time when respectable business men really were supposed to wear bowler hats and a women in pants trousers was still "mod". The things they were satirizing are unrecognizable today. In context, what they were doing was much more rebellious than showing two men kissing on broadcast TV is today.

Another part is that they were pushing the boundaries of what you could get away with on television, slipping stuff past the censors because nobody was watching. But standards have changed so much that it looks positively prudish. The irony is that they had a part in the evolution of those standards.

And lastly, the movies are fun and where they got their commercial success, but were already capitalizing on fan familiarity. The TV show was their best work.

Brilliant, clever, influential, deserving of great respect for their achievement and contribution. Okay that it doesn't captivate modern audiences. See also: The Beatles, Citizen Kane, Buster Keaton, Mozart, Shakespeare, Homer.

Very good, thank you!


TL;DR version: The context is very important to understanding Monty Python, especially so with Flying Circus. The movies are easier to appreciate.

Upper Class Twit of the Year - Monty Python's Flying Circus
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2020-05-12 6:11:32 PM  

deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35


It's a case of you had to be there at the time for most people who feel like you do.
 
2020-05-12 6:13:22 PM  
You had to be there for the old SNL, too.
Plus, we watched stoned.
 
2020-05-12 6:18:56 PM  
Long before they wrote sketches about how to irritate people in restaurants, six comedians went out for dinner at their local curry house and made a decision that would change the course of their lives.
On this day in 1969, Monty Python was born. And the world of comedy was transformed.


Wrong - John wrote and acted in "How To Irritate People" in 1968.
John Cleese - How To Irritate People 1968
Youtube KoSu6AUC-7k
 
2020-05-12 6:33:18 PM  

LindenFark: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

There are many valid reasons they are revered, and many valid reasons why they seem unimpressive to modern eyes. The comparison to the Beatles is apt.

Part of it is that they were so influential that everything that came after has Monty Python in their DNA, masking the originality if you come to the source later. "I don't see why the big deal about Hamlet is; It's just actors on stage spouting one cliche after another."

Another part is that the timelines of their humor is lost now that society has changed. They were very progressive for their time mocking the conservative post-WWII stuffy British status quo. In a time when respectable business men really were supposed to wear bowler hats and a women in pants trousers was still "mod". The things they were satirizing are unrecognizable today. In context, what they were doing was much more rebellious than showing two men kissing on broadcast TV is today.

Another part is that they were pushing the boundaries of what you could get away with on television, slipping stuff past the censors because nobody was watching. But standards have changed so much that it looks positively prudish. The irony is that they had a part in the evolution of those standards.

And lastly, the movies are fun and where they got their commercial success, but were already capitalizing on fan familiarity. The TV show was their best work.

Brilliant, clever, influential, deserving of great respect for their achievement and contribution. Okay that it doesn't captivate modern audiences. See also: The Beatles, Citizen Kane, Buster Keaton, Mozart, Shakespeare, Homer.


Well said.

Thanks.
 
2020-05-12 6:36:25 PM  

deanis: Gramma: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

There is something wrong with you.

You're right, but that's nothing new.

I love comedy.


Have you checked out Benny Hill?
 
2020-05-12 6:37:40 PM  

deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35


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2020-05-12 6:38:37 PM  

puckrock2000: Long before they wrote sketches about how to irritate people in restaurants, six comedians went out for dinner at their local curry house and made a decision that would change the course of their lives.
On this day in 1969, Monty Python was born. And the world of comedy was transformed.

Wrong - John wrote and acted in "How To Irritate People" in 1968.
[YouTube video: John Cleese - How To Irritate People 1968]


Except.

that wasn't the troupe.
 
2020-05-12 6:38:40 PM  

deanis: Buttknuckle: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

Oh get ready for some Fark backlash.

I guess im just a glutton for punishment.

It's kind of like the old, OLD, SNL skits. It does nothing for me.


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2020-05-12 8:26:23 PM  

LindenFark: deanis: I just don't think these movies are funny. Why does everyone else?

/35

There are many valid reasons they are revered, and many valid reasons why they seem unimpressive to modern eyes. The comparison to the Beatles is apt.

Part of it is that they were so influential that everything that came after has Monty Python in their DNA, masking the originality if you come to the source later. "I don't see why the big deal about Hamlet is; It's just actors on stage spouting one cliche after another."

Another part is that the timelines of their humor is lost now that society has changed. They were very progressive for their time mocking the conservative post-WWII stuffy British status quo. In a time when respectable business men really were supposed to wear bowler hats and a women in pants trousers was still "mod". The things they were satirizing are unrecognizable today. In context, what they were doing was much more rebellious than showing two men kissing on broadcast TV is today.

Another part is that they were pushing the boundaries of what you could get away with on television, slipping stuff past the censors because nobody was watching. But standards have changed so much that it looks positively prudish. The irony is that they had a part in the evolution of those standards.

And lastly, the movies are fun and where they got their commercial success, but were already capitalizing on fan familiarity. The TV show was their best work.

Brilliant, clever, influential, deserving of great respect for their achievement and contribution. Okay that it doesn't captivate modern audiences. See also: The Beatles, Citizen Kane, Buster Keaton, Mozart, Shakespeare, Homer.


Spot on, but I feel the need to add one small thing.

Despite what often looks like pure silliness, the sketches were heavily scripted with almost no ad libs, wherein the dialogue often requires a knowledge of the classics that a well educated person of that era was aware of (philosophers, historical figures, etc.). Many of the references are lost on modern audiences with varying degrees of familiarity with such figures and events. In some cases, the sketches are working on two levels.
 
2020-05-12 9:40:57 PM  
A little disappointed that there has been no mention of The Goon Show. Inspired silliness mostly from the mind of one Spike Milligan. It aired on BBC Radio during the 1950s. Peter Sellers (yes, that one), Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe played a wide variety of characters who got involved n all sorts of foolishness every week. The Pythons (except the American) grew up listening to the Goon Show. Have a listen to one or two episodes and the influence on the Pythons will become obvious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/The_Goon​_Show Spike Milligan got a lifetime Achievement award from the British Comedy Awards in 1994. Take note of the audience's reactions. https://www.youtube.com/wa​tch?v=TkOAUh​t3G5o
 
2020-05-12 10:16:55 PM  
Subby you silly old leg-before-wicket English person.
 
2020-05-13 6:11:56 AM  
Subby better hope there's a lever.
 
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