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2020-05-12 10:13:05 AM  
I rewatched it recently.. As a fan of the Dune books, I still like it even though its rushed and impenetrable to the uninitiated. It should have been a three film set and covered more of the next books.
 
2020-05-12 12:38:40 PM  
So Much Whispered Monologuing
 
2020-05-12 1:38:19 PM  
The Sci-Fi miniseries was better
 
2020-05-12 1:46:04 PM  
Both lists aren't wrong.
 
2020-05-12 1:47:05 PM  
15 for 15 in agreement.

/forgot 'heart plugs'
//the story got pissed on by a herd of race horses.
 
2020-05-12 1:47:18 PM  
Yes, let's

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2020-05-12 1:48:18 PM  

UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better


The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

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2020-05-12 1:49:21 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I rewatched it recently.. As a fan of the Dune books, I still like it even though its rushed and impenetrable to the uninitiated. It should have been a three film set and covered more of the next books.


Yeah, I saw it soon after reading the books years ago.  I couldn't imagine someone unfamiliar with the books trying to decipher what the hell was going on in that film.

Jodorowsky's Dune seemed to somehow be on pace to be even more of a complete mindfark.  The documentary on it alone is just crazy.
 
2020-05-12 1:52:30 PM  

Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

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Julie Cox is a funny little thing.
 
2020-05-12 1:57:24 PM  
I don't think it is as bad as people remember it.  Should have been twice as long.  Virginia Madsen can whisper to me all she wants...
 
2020-05-12 1:57:37 PM  

sozelle: So Much Whispered Monologuing


And asking "private questions" in public.
 
2020-05-12 1:59:54 PM  

macadamnut: Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

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Julie Cox is a funny little thing.


So is Daniela Amavia...

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Honestly, there's a lot of things that both interpretations did well and not so well. I enjoy and usually bingewatch both. I really liked about half of the 1984 soundtrack, the Brian Eno portions for the most part, the Toto "soft rock" songs notsomuch.

\Top Gear Top Tip: Get the DVD version of the miniseries. Just sayin'
\\ATOMICS!
 
2020-05-12 2:00:48 PM  
The casting was, for the most part, fantastic as were the sets and overall look. Where the movie failed was trying to pack too much into 2 hours. This led to way too much internal monologue (due to the need to for exposition) and odd dialogue.

It really should have been split into two films: Dune 1 Fall of House Atredies and Dune 2 Rise of Muad'Dib. The extra time would have given better options for explaining the underlying politics and mythology without it being obvious exposition.
 
2020-05-12 2:02:13 PM  
I saw Lynchs DUNE in a theater when it came out. I had not yet read the book(s)... anyways...each person was given a one sheet with a glossary of terminology for the DUNE universe when we purchased a ticket. I think I still have it wedged between some old comics in a longbox...anyways it was maybe a dozen or so items on the page...frankly if your movie needs a pamphlet to help you follow the plot...you have failed as a film maker.
also...try to follow along and read that shiat in the dark , it was black text printed over a grey scale image of the movie poster...printer with early 80s tech. it was hard enough to read in broad daylight let alone in a dark theater.

/as dumb as the "weirding modules" are, I've always loved the line " My own name is a killing word!"
 
2020-05-12 2:05:14 PM  
the internet remembers everything...
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2020-05-12 2:06:43 PM  

Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

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True story: a friend asked me who I thought the hottest women alive was. Answer? Miniseries Chani in a stillsuit. Their answer? "You are so weird."

Can't argue with that kind of evidence.
 
2020-05-12 2:13:50 PM  
It's the only movie I've ever walked out on. At the time, I'd never read any of the books, but I've since read the first few and mostly enjoyed them. I still can't watch the movie.
 
2020-05-12 2:19:48 PM  

kolpanic: It's the only movie I've ever walked out on. At the time, I'd never read any of the books, but I've since read the first few and mostly enjoyed them. I still can't watch the movie.


dude... I've never walked out on a movie... and I saw Highlander 2 and the Chris Nolan "Dark Knight" films.

(I did fall asleep @ those though)
 
2020-05-12 2:23:44 PM  
Love the movie. Yes it differs from the book in some stupid ways, yes it tries to do too much in too little time, but holy crap does it nail the visual worldbuilding, the cast is fantastic and does an amazing job with what they are given, and Toto's soundtrack is spot on.
 
2020-05-12 2:24:33 PM  
Eon - Spice (Original Mix with Notes)
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2020-05-12 2:25:16 PM  
Lynch's Dude > book Dune

/come at me
 
2020-05-12 2:26:26 PM  

Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

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The European edition of the miniseries shows that Chani is rather water fat.
 
2020-05-12 2:28:11 PM  
I saw the movie first on cable sometime in the 80s when I was a kid.  I liked it enough that I read the first 2 books. Ive heard that the books just get really strange after book 3.  I dont remember much about the mini series except for the costumes but would watch again if it was streaming somewhere.
 
2020-05-12 2:36:05 PM  

UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better


Far better.  The movie was a pile of shiat that had nothing to do with the book other than the title and character names.

I liked David Lynch up until that thing came out.
 
2020-05-12 2:44:27 PM  

Glitchwerks: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/5lgQp3OT​iNw]


High Tone - Buck Up (with scenes from Dune)
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2020-05-12 2:50:03 PM  
Let's revisit Aalia Atreides

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2020-05-12 2:59:55 PM  
This is where the writer reveals to me that they likely have NOT re-watched this movie in a good while, and they do not apparently remember it that well.

FTA,. Speaking about the weidring sci-fi tech from the movie:

"It looks stupid, and it's ridiculous once you remember how almost all of the Atreides' modules were destroyed in the invasion...only for the Fremen to have a bunch of them later with no explanation. "

No that is incorrect:
1: weirding tech destroyed
2: Paul and Jessica being taken to be dumped in the desert by Harkonnen troops. Jessica sees the pack left for them by the traitor it has still suits , his sign on it to say it is from him, and they explicitly say "the plans for the weirding modules" to let the audience know, they may have destroyed the stock of produced weapons, but we still have the most important thing, the secret instructions of how to  make more.


Lame arse slapdash yahoos should just pay to keep their own blogs not be paid to write like they have a single clue about WTF At all.
 
2020-05-12 3:03:57 PM  
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Stay your tongue from issuing such words concerning Richard Jordan, hag.
 
2020-05-12 3:09:59 PM  

UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better


SILENCE!

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2020-05-12 3:12:12 PM  
Inama Nushif -- Children of Dune.
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2020-05-12 3:16:09 PM  

Stavr0: Let's revisit Aalia Atreides

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Came for this.

yes, I thought about the phrasing.
 
2020-05-12 3:38:43 PM  

Stavr0: Let's revisit Aalia Atreides

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I had no idea that was the same person, but I can totally see it in the face now that I know.

*mind blown*
 
2020-05-12 3:44:24 PM  

batlock666: Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

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The European edition of the miniseries shows that Chani is rather water fat.


I read somewhere that the US version had to cut out the nudity, which then muddled up the plot pretty much every time.
e.g. when Irulan visits Fayd and seems about to get giddy with him in the tub but then swaps places with her spy, a very naked slave girl (?) or Bene Gesserit whatever she was; so if you watched the US version it seemed that Fayd had farked the Princess.
 
2020-05-12 4:13:42 PM  
Amazing scenery, awesome costumes, cool monsters, horrible inner monologue.
 
2020-05-12 4:21:16 PM  
Dune, which was released in 1984, had a budget of $45 million which was huge for a science fiction movie of the time.  For comparison, here's the budgets for some other sci-fi movies released in the same era that all required a fair amount of costumes, special effects, matte paintings, non-contemporary sets, and world building...

Blade Runner (1982) - $28 million
Star Trek II (1982) - $11 million
Return of the Jedi (1983) - $32.5 million
Krull (1983) - $30 million
Star Trek III (1984) - $17 million
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome - $12 million
Aliens (1986) - $18.5 million

I know a lot of people look back fondly on some of the visuals from Lynch's Dune, but I'm convinced that's mainly from people comparing it to the television-budgeted miniseries.  Compared to the movies on the list above, it's mind boggling to think where Dune's $45 million went.  The only movie on the list above that Dune remotely looks better than is Krull, and Krull's budget was a third lower than Dune's.
 
2020-05-12 4:24:58 PM  
Does anyone know if there is a definite number on the different versions of the film? I saw it in the theater originally and then on cable TV with an annoying narration, but I swear when I watched a rented version that it was different than the first two.
 
2020-05-12 4:33:10 PM  

positronica: Compared to the movies on the list above, it's mind boggling to think where Dune's $45 million went.


The blight did a real number on the baby oil harvest that year, it wasn't cheap to make Sting look like that.
 
2020-05-12 4:41:30 PM  

Stavr0: Let's revisit Aalia Atreides

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Water of life goes where?
 
2020-05-12 4:54:31 PM  

DecemberNitro: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

SILENCE!

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The OP is right.

The failures of the miniseries are related to money.  Production, effects, casting all suffered but they had the time to tell a complete story (that was reasonably faithful to the one Herbert told in the book) due to the format.

The film had (for its time) top notch production and effects and a pretty talented cast of international actors but due to restriction on its duration (and Lynch's general disinterest in the project that he was only doing so De Laurentis would help him make Blue Velvet), it either alters, truncates or completely jettisons elements of the original that make it compelling turning it into a very pretty space opera but completely missing the point of the original.

I'm cautiously optimistic that Denis Vilaneuve will give us something that combines the strength of both adaptations (at the very least he understands that you need two films to tell the story of the first book which is a good start).
 
2020-05-12 5:09:30 PM  

will.i.ain't: Stavr0: Let's revisit Aalia Atreides

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Came for this.

yes, I thought about the phrasing.


Indeed, "we have wormsign the likes of which God has never seen".

I've always thought that Lynch's Dune is very enjoyable, it has some great design, some great performances.
 
2020-05-12 5:10:06 PM  

Tyrosine: The casting was, for the most part, fantastic as were the sets and overall look. Where the movie failed was trying to pack too much into 2 hours. This led to way too much internal monologue (due to the need to for exposition) and odd dialogue.

It really should have been split into two films: Dune 1 Fall of House Atredies and Dune 2 Rise of Muad'Dib. The extra time would have given better options for explaining the underlying politics and mythology without it being obvious exposition.


Which is what they seem to be doing for the new film(s).
 
2020-05-12 5:16:56 PM  

Marcos P: Amazing scenery, awesome costumes, cool monsters, horrible inner monologue.


The sand for the worms was micro beads. It was a toxic substance at the time, and was a permit nightmare to get it imported into Mexico. Funny how times have changed.
 
2020-05-12 5:19:49 PM  
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2020-05-12 5:20:43 PM  

Two16: Lynch's Dude > book Dune

/come at me


I see you fail at science fiction as much as you do with politics.
 
2020-05-12 5:21:29 PM  
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2020-05-12 5:25:30 PM  

batlock666: Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

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The European edition of the miniseries shows that Chani is rather water fat.


Meanwhile, here's the new Chani:
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/going to be interesting getting her as MJ out of my head
 
2020-05-12 5:26:54 PM  
I saw Dune when it first came out in theater, and I remember walking out thinking, "Well, that was a $50 million B-movie."

I loved it.
 
2020-05-12 5:27:18 PM  

jerryskid: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

Far better.  The movie was a pile of shiat that had nothing to do with the book other than the title and character names.

I liked David Lynch up until that thing came out.


He'd only done two other movies before then, and one was an abstract arthouse film.
 
2020-05-12 5:29:38 PM  

macadamnut: batlock666: Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

[Fark user image 528x312]

The European edition of the miniseries shows that Chani is rather water fat.

I read somewhere that the US version had to cut out the nudity, which then muddled up the plot pretty much every time.
e.g. when Irulan visits Fayd and seems about to get giddy with him in the tub but then swaps places with her spy, a very naked slave girl (?) or Bene Gesserit whatever she was; so if you watched the US version it seemed that Fayd had farked the Princess.


You are correct. Watch the uncut version.
 
2020-05-12 5:31:44 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: batlock666: Ktonos: UNC_Samurai: The Sci-Fi miniseries was better

The Sci-Fi miniseries with the Lynch movie visuals would have been superb. Plus I really liked the miniseries Chani, Barbora Kodetová.

[Fark user image 528x312]

The European edition of the miniseries shows that Chani is rather water fat.

Meanwhile, here's the new Chani:
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/going to be interesting getting her as MJ out of my head


I've still not really accepted her as MJ... she spent all of the first film and most of the second film having zero charisma.  she started to show some semblance of a personality towards the end of act 3 in Far From Home...
as much fun as the MCU Spiderman movies are...I don't see why Peter is infatuated with MJ, other than the movie says he does.
 
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