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2020-05-11 5:05:26 PM  
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2020-05-11 6:15:44 PM  
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2020-05-11 6:40:17 PM  
there can be only one.
 
2020-05-11 6:40:34 PM  
Never bring a shrink to a sword fight.
 
2020-05-11 6:42:18 PM  

Mouser: Never bring a shrink to a sword fight.


Or a lawyer.
 
2020-05-11 6:45:34 PM  
anyone that had a child with this guy probably should be evaluated
 
2020-05-11 6:45:52 PM  
David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.
 
2020-05-11 6:47:02 PM  
According to Sean Connery you shouldn't fight with s words when the penis mightier.
 
2020-05-11 6:47:20 PM  
Just to be sure, remove the child from both parents custodies forever.
 
2020-05-11 6:49:49 PM  
Be fair. No sane person would marry him.
 
2020-05-11 6:51:02 PM  
And here I thought that Iwas a traditionalist.

/custody battles are ugly enough on their own, let alone when the children are used as pawns to get at the other parent
//I'm just glad that King Solomon isn't alive today, we'd have parents grabbing that sword themselves
///spend enough time around courts/lawyers/cops and the stories you hear...yuck
 
2020-05-11 6:51:52 PM  

ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.



I think most judges would not look kindly on that.  The law is the law, and justice is supposed to be rendered impartially, regardless of the level of media attention.

Case in point: The People of the State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson.
 
2020-05-11 6:52:16 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Sean Connery you shouldn't fight with s words when the penis mightier.


"Whore Ads"
 
2020-05-11 6:52:40 PM  
There can be only one.
 
2020-05-11 6:53:48 PM  

covfefe: There can be only one.


Nah. Now there are two of you guys.
 
2020-05-11 6:53:50 PM  

khitsicker: there can be only one.


covfefe: There can be only one.


I bid you good day.
 
2020-05-11 6:56:37 PM  

ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.


Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?
 
2020-05-11 6:58:43 PM  
It found he is not troubled, but has "adjustment disorder with mixed emotional features," Ostrom told the Des Moines Register.

Hate to break it to you, Dave, but 'adjustment disorder' is shrink-speak for 'troubled'
 
2020-05-11 6:58:52 PM  
If the court ordered a psych evaluation, why isn't the court paying for that? Why is he stuck with the bill?
 
2020-05-11 7:02:15 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: 'adjustment disorder' is shrink-speak for 'troubled'


Gee, I wonder why a guy being divorced and having his kid taken away from him might be going through some stress.
 
2020-05-11 7:10:45 PM  
"trial by combat"

Star Trek fight music intensifies.
 
2020-05-11 7:16:57 PM  

punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?


we have no idea what the terms were, possibly:

Wife:  "either you leave us or I kill you and your daughter"

what is a husband/father to do?   Shotcaller movie is a good example of how crazy things can get
 
2020-05-11 7:18:32 PM  
Ostrom, who is representing himself in court,...

I think I found the problem.
 
2020-05-11 7:20:43 PM  

Hyjamon: punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?

we have no idea what the terms were, possibly:

Wife:  "either you leave us or I kill you and your daughter"

what is a husband/father to do?   Shotcaller movie is a good example of how crazy things can get


You leave and tell the police obvious the X is unstable and still might kill your daughter or at the very least abuse her. That's why I posed the question.
 
2020-05-11 7:22:20 PM  

mrmopar5287: RoyFokker'sGhost: 'adjustment disorder' is shrink-speak for 'troubled'

Gee, I wonder why a guy being divorced and having his kid taken away from him might be going through some stress.


'Disorder' is not 'Stress'. It goes deeper than that. Yes, he's in a stressful situation. Millions of Americans go through theexact same stressful situation every year. Yet, they wouldn't be classified as having an 'adjustment disorder' simply because of the stress.
 
2020-05-11 7:26:33 PM  
there can be only one
 
2020-05-11 7:26:40 PM  

Shirley Ujest: Just to be sure, remove the child from both parents custodies forever.


My uncle was a judge in the Family Court out here in Oz.   Says he wished for this to be an option daily.
If the two of you are so incapable of sorting out a reasonable compromise that it needs a judge, it normally means at least one of you is insane or an asshole.  Often both of you.
 
2020-05-11 7:29:38 PM  
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2020-05-11 7:30:30 PM  

punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?


You have never been through a divorce, have you? She told the judge I I abused our daughter and herself. (my x left bruises on me from hitting me because I would not hit back) She brought in a friend of hers that was a school teacher as a character witness who 6 months latter ended up with a 20 year sentence for child sexual abuse of his students. My X was a biatch from hell but never hurt our daughter and never would. She was after me for leaving her. It would have all been a he said she said pointless battle with out a witness.
A couple months ago I trimmed branches off her roof so they would not tear holes in it. I called her up on mothers day and wished her well.
shiat is never cut and dry. The sap runs a long time and that is life.
My daughter 20 years latter now hates her mom for what she was put through but I tell her to love and take care of her mom.
 
2020-05-11 7:36:30 PM  

ruudbob: punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?

You have never been through a divorce, have you? She told the judge I I abused our daughter and herself. (my x left bruises on me from hitting me because I would not hit back) She brought in a friend of hers that was a school teacher as a character witness who 6 months latter ended up with a 20 year sentence for child sexual abuse of his students. My X was a biatch from hell but never hurt our daughter and never would. She was after me for leaving her. It would have all been a he said she said pointless battle with out a witness.
A couple months ago I trimmed branches off her roof so they would not tear holes in it. I called her up on mothers day and wished her well.
shiat is never cut and dry. The sap runs a long time and that is life.
My daughter 20 years latter now hates her mom for what she was put through but I tell her to love and take care of her mom.


That situation was really bad and your X was a hateful person. I'm glad she never hurt your daughter, but have known family situations where the person who abuses their spouse is likely to be abusive to their kids.

I'm happy things worked out in the end for you.
 
2020-05-11 7:40:09 PM  

Hyjamon: punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?

we have no idea what the terms were, possibly:

Wife:  "either you leave us or I kill you and your daughter"

what is a husband/father to do?   Shotcaller movie is a good example of how crazy things can get


You are right, that was her first statement after I said I was leaving..a few months latter she said I could have her and another person to live with and that it would be fine. There is such a thing as wisdom and i declined on that offer.
I do not hold the past against her. It cost a shiat load of money I did not have but I got what i wanted. Joint custody. My daughter is 30 now and I still do what i can for her. I helped dig up her sewer line last month and installed a new section. You know like stuff dads help their daughters with.
 
2020-05-11 7:41:07 PM  
If I understand it correctly he has to fight in a hole up to his waist, and she gets a half-brick in a sock.
 
2020-05-11 7:42:30 PM  
Hyjamon: punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?

we have no idea what the terms were, possibly:

Wife:  "either you STAY or I kill you and your daughter" (fixed it for you)

what is a husband/father to do?   Shotcaller movie is a good example of how crazy things can get
 
2020-05-11 7:43:15 PM  

punkwrestler: Hyjamon: punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?

we have no idea what the terms were, possibly:

Wife:  "either you leave us or I kill you and your daughter"

what is a husband/father to do?   Shotcaller movie is a good example of how crazy things can get

You leave and tell the police obvious the X is unstable and still might kill your daughter or at the very least abuse her. That's why I posed the question.


you are more optimistic than me then.

Because you just abandoned your family and falsely claimed that your wife threatened you and her child.  If the child was in danger and being threatened by your wife, then why did you leave the child alone with her?

it seems when things turn into he said/she said...the she's seem to get the benefit of the doubt in the few anecdotal cases I have been near.
 
2020-05-11 7:47:27 PM  
Ahh what the hell, psychological evaluations all around.
 
2020-05-11 7:48:37 PM  

punkwrestler: ruudbob: punkwrestler: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Your X threatened to kill you and your daughter and you didn't ask for full custody after that?

You have never been through a divorce, have you? She told the judge I I abused our daughter and herself. (my x left bruises on me from hitting me because I would not hit back) She brought in a friend of hers that was a school teacher as a character witness who 6 months latter ended up with a 20 year sentence for child sexual abuse of his students. My X was a biatch from hell but never hurt our daughter and never would. She was after me for leaving her. It would have all been a he said she said pointless battle with out a witness.
A couple months ago I trimmed branches off her roof so they would not tear holes in it. I called her up on mothers day and wished her well.
shiat is never cut and dry. The sap runs a long time and that is life.
My daughter 20 years latter now hates her mom for what she was put through but I tell her to love and take care of her mom.

That situation was really bad and your X was a hateful person. I'm glad she never hurt your daughter, but have known family situations where the person who abuses their spouse is likely to be abusive to their kids.

I'm happy things worked out in the end for you.


No, this one was only focused on the kid. My X's whole life was dedicated to our child. It still is and I am glad for that. My daughter has unfortunately taken after her mom and her boy friend showed me the bruises on his back yesterday of where my daughter gets mad and twist pinches him in anger. I gotta talk to her about this.
 
2020-05-11 7:52:53 PM  

Dave2042: My uncle was a judge in the Family Court out here in Oz.


My cousin was a judge. She said the family (divorce) court assignments were the absolute worst. Even in the cases where kids weren't involved it was sometimes a spiteful battle between two people who wanted to waste everything so the other couldn't have anything. More than once she straight-up told a couple "If you split everything 50-50 you can walk away with something and avoid your lawyers getting all the money in fees." She said it never worked to explain it like that.
 
2020-05-11 7:57:40 PM  

mrmopar5287: Dave2042: My uncle was a judge in the Family Court out here in Oz.

My cousin was a judge. She said the family (divorce) court assignments were the absolute worst. Even in the cases where kids weren't involved it was sometimes a spiteful battle between two people who wanted to waste everything so the other couldn't have anything. More than once she straight-up told a couple "If you split everything 50-50 you can walk away with something and avoid your lawyers getting all the money in fees." She said it never worked to explain it like that.


did she ever find a way to explain it?

or is it more of an impossibility when both parties goal is to make sure the other has nothing.

ideal: Couple splits $20 so they both walk away with $10

Reality: Couple spends $10 each to make sure the other doesn't get a dollar.
 
2020-05-11 8:02:30 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: Ahh what the hell, psychological evaluations all around.


Let's not be too hasty to rule out the trial-by-combat option here.
 
2020-05-11 8:09:54 PM  

Hyjamon: mrmopar5287: Dave2042: My uncle was a judge in the Family Court out here in Oz.

My cousin was a judge. She said the family (divorce) court assignments were the absolute worst. Even in the cases where kids weren't involved it was sometimes a spiteful battle between two people who wanted to waste everything so the other couldn't have anything. More than once she straight-up told a couple "If you split everything 50-50 you can walk away with something and avoid your lawyers getting all the money in fees." She said it never worked to explain it like that.

did she ever find a way to explain it?

or is it more of an impossibility when both parties goal is to make sure the other has nothing.

ideal: Couple splits $20 so they both walk away with $10

Reality: Couple spends $10 each to make sure the other doesn't get a dollar.


Nope. The people she had to explain it to were people unwilling to compromise.
 
2020-05-11 8:15:08 PM  

mrmopar5287: Hyjamon: mrmopar5287: Dave2042: My uncle was a judge in the Family Court out here in Oz.

My cousin was a judge. She said the family (divorce) court assignments were the absolute worst. Even in the cases where kids weren't involved it was sometimes a spiteful battle between two people who wanted to waste everything so the other couldn't have anything. More than once she straight-up told a couple "If you split everything 50-50 you can walk away with something and avoid your lawyers getting all the money in fees." She said it never worked to explain it like that.

did she ever find a way to explain it?

or is it more of an impossibility when both parties goal is to make sure the other has nothing.

ideal: Couple splits $20 so they both walk away with $10

Reality: Couple spends $10 each to make sure the other doesn't get a dollar.

Nope. The people she had to explain it to were people unwilling to compromise.


There's a lot of it about.  I did a stint in venture capital in the 90's.  Saw a number of potentially valuable businesses collapse because founders would rather own a large percent of nothing than a small percent of something and see someone else get to share in the success. Same mentality.
 
2020-05-11 8:16:43 PM  
There are some days I'm upset that I'm not married. Then I read stories like this and think "yeah it's OK to be single".
 
2020-05-11 8:18:17 PM  

ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.


Yeah, lawful masses covered the case and tot court docs.

If you read through the case it isn't like the headlines make it out to be, he still is batshiat, but so is everyone else in the case.  His trial by combat was more tongue in cheek because his ex wife's lawyer wasn't respond to his legal papers and requests.  I wouldn't be surprised if he gets sanctioned as he wasn't doing what he was supposed and was intentionally withholding stuff he was supposed to provide to make Ostrom look bad.

An Iowa Divorcee Proposes Trial by Combat
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2020-05-11 8:27:23 PM  

FrancoFile: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.


I think most judges would not look kindly on that.  The law is the law, and justice is supposed to be rendered impartially, regardless of the level of media attention.

Case in point: The People of the State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson.


The ex's lawyer was intentionally not doing his job and the judge was deferring to the lawyer because he was representing himself in forma pauperis.  So even though he had proof the lawyer was intentionally not doing his job to make him look bad the judge was not doing anything about it so he submitted the trial by combat.  The lawyer even sent a message to him swearing at him and saying he was going to bury him and take everything from him.

So his wife's lawyer is/was being super unprofessional to the point of sanctionaboe actions, and the courts weren't doing anything to stop it.

Sometimes attention is needed.
 
2020-05-11 9:38:17 PM  

Random Celebrity Insult Generator: anyone that had a child with this guy probably should be evaluated


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2020-05-11 9:56:20 PM  

dkulprit: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Yeah, lawful masses covered the case and tot court docs.

If you read through the case it isn't like the headlines make it out to be, he still is batshiat, but so is everyone else in the case.  His trial by combat was more tongue in cheek because his ex wife's lawyer wasn't respond to his legal papers and requests.  I wouldn't be surprised if he gets sanctioned as he wasn't doing what he was supposed and was intentionally withholding stuff he was supposed to provide to make Ostrom look bad.

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TL/DW..I gave my X everything she asked for from the get go. Half this, all that, child support and I even threw in alimony for her for 5 years so she could get a teaching degree. Though the state did not require it. She was mad and fought me tooth and nail. NO JOINT CUSTODY, you leave me you leave our kid. I got my kid.

She did not get a teaching degree, she got an above ground pool to hang out in all summers long. I feel no resentment, it is her money now, I got what I wanted, joint custody. The funny thing is that she stiffed her lawyer after my X got the money to pay her. HA HA HA.

Her lawyer got farked and I have a new grand baby coming from a daughter that loves me. Life is great.
My X is excited also and I think that is just great. I keep telling my 30 YO kid to love her mom also.
 
2020-05-11 10:04:11 PM  

ruudbob: dkulprit: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.

Yeah, lawful masses covered the case and tot court docs.

If you read through the case it isn't like the headlines make it out to be, he still is batshiat, but so is everyone else in the case.  His trial by combat was more tongue in cheek because his ex wife's lawyer wasn't respond to his legal papers and requests.  I wouldn't be surprised if he gets sanctioned as he wasn't doing what he was supposed and was intentionally withholding stuff he was supposed to provide to make Ostrom look bad.

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TL/DW..I gave my X everything she asked for from the get go. Half this, all that, child support and I even threw in alimony for her for 5 years so she could get a teaching degree. Though the state did not require it. She was mad and fought me tooth and nail. NO JOINT CUSTODY, you leave me you leave our kid. I got my kid.

She did not get a teaching degree, she got an above ground pool to hang out in all summers long. I feel no resentment, it is her money now, I got what I wanted, joint custody. The funny thing is that she stiffed her lawyer after my X got the money to pay her. HA HA HA.

Her lawyer got farked and I have a new grand baby coming from a daughter that loves me. Life is great.
My X is excited also and I think that is just great. I keep telling my 30 YO kid to love her mom also.


Yea I got the joint Custody but I got the bonus last month of helping to dig up her yard and installing sewer pipe for the kid so its a win win for all of us. PS her mom would have paid for the service for her if I did not step in so to speak.
 
2020-05-11 10:08:52 PM  

dkulprit: FrancoFile: ruudbob: David Ostrom had previously told the Register that he filed his "trial by combat" motion to get media attention for his case.

I went through a divorce that the X threatened to kill me and our daughter. All I wanted was every other weekend visits. Dealing with a spurned woman can be really hard. I got what I wanted and only lost the house, half my 401K and about $50,000 in legal fees.
I can sure relate to that poor guy.


I think most judges would not look kindly on that.  The law is the law, and justice is supposed to be rendered impartially, regardless of the level of media attention.

Case in point: The People of the State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson.

The ex's lawyer was intentionally not doing his job and the judge was deferring to the lawyer because he was representing himself in forma pauperis.  So even though he had proof the lawyer was intentionally not doing his job to make him look bad the judge was not doing anything about it so he submitted the trial by combat.  The lawyer even sent a message to him swearing at him and saying he was going to bury him and take everything from him.

So his wife's lawyer is/was being super unprofessional to the point of sanctionaboe actions, and the courts weren't doing anything to stop it.

Sometimes attention is needed.


Lets see here, A lawyer judge protects a lawyer against a non lawyer working without being a real lawyer in court and kinda gums up the proceedings. NAA NOT POSSABLE!@!!
 
2020-05-11 10:24:01 PM  
"Man who sought trial by combat now wants ex-wife evaluated."

Meanwhile in the Land Down Under...

"Man who sought trial by wombat now wants ex-wife evaluated."
 
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