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(The Hill)   "While Republican senators acknowledge that Trump's popular support is tough to poll, some are concerned about surveys showing his approval rating below that of all 50 governors and other world leaders"   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-05-11 8:11:40 AM  
Coronavirus is polling higher than Trump at this point.
 
2020-05-11 8:15:32 AM  
I'd rather vote for a wet fart.
 
2020-05-11 8:16:44 AM  
Trump's about as popular as hemorrhagic fever.  Turns out that about 30% of the population are in favor.
 
2020-05-11 8:35:30 AM  
"Tough To Poll" means "Nonexistant."

He is unpopular, and so his his support.
 
2020-05-11 8:42:43 AM  
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2020-05-11 8:56:43 AM  
These polls give me a glimmer of hope, with an undercurrent of dread.  That dread won't be gone until Jan 21st, and it may linger forever.
 
2020-05-11 8:56:58 AM  

OdradekRex: Coronavirus is polling higher than Trump at this point.


To be fair, Coronavirus would have polled higher than Trump with more than half the country in 2016 as well.
 
2020-05-11 8:57:36 AM  
Dump's still polling too damn high!!

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2020-05-11 8:58:02 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: I'd rather vote for a wet fart.


I have more trust in the wet fart.
 
2020-05-11 8:58:24 AM  
This is like Vichy France bemoaning how unpopular Hitler is.
 
2020-05-11 9:00:21 AM  
They had their chance to get rid of Trump handed to them by the HoR. Now they need to live with their decision.
 
2020-05-11 9:01:13 AM  
You jackoffs could've done something about this back in January or February ( I can't remember because every damn month seems like a farkng decade in this shiatass timeline), but noooo, you all decided to ride it out and disingenuously opined that this 70+ year old manbaby learned his lesson.
 
2020-05-11 9:02:06 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: I'd rather vote for a wet fart.


At least with that you can take a shower and the stench goes away.
 
2020-05-11 9:02:15 AM  
That'll happen when a president abdicates all responsibility and accountability for our health and safety to the state governors.
 
2020-05-11 9:02:58 AM  
I am sure floating a plan to tie economic relief to surrendering Social Security benefits is really gonna reverse the tide and make him super popular going forward.

But he'll still likely win reelection when Barr announces criminal charges against Biden/whoever the Democratic nominee is in October.
 
2020-05-11 9:05:55 AM  
The guy who used his bully pulpit to spend the last 4 years lobbing childish insults 24-7 at the beliefs, values and very existence of the majority of Americans is now unpopular?

How is this possible?  It's a real puzzler.
 
2020-05-11 9:06:56 AM  
His appeal is just becoming more selective.
 
2020-05-11 9:08:51 AM  

Grungehamster: I am sure floating a plan to tie economic relief to surrendering Social Security benefits is really gonna reverse the tide and make him super popular going forward.

But he'll still likely win reelection when Barr announces criminal charges against Biden/whoever the Democratic nominee is in October.


It's basically another scheme from the wealthy to seize average Americans retirement money.  What could go wrong?  Fark it lets mine the moon, stupid moon, who needs it anyway.
 
2020-05-11 9:09:10 AM  

danvon: You jackoffs could've done something about this back in January or February ( I can't remember because every damn month seems like a farkng decade in this shiatass timeline), but noooo, you all decided to ride it out and disingenuously opined that this 70+ year old manbaby learned his lesson.


But that would have amounted to a loss of both face and power - that is not part of Yertle's Playbook. It doesn't really matter how it looks if the power is preserved. But what good is Pence if, because of the loss of face, he loses the WH in November (remember: this is all pre-CV19 thinking)? So. Nope to conviction under any circumstances. Look how they did Romney? Just one voice asking for the Senate to take the job seriously. Completely vilified.
 
2020-05-11 9:10:58 AM  
Whenever Drumpf is out of office, I wonder if the GOP will deny him being a true republican and try to wipe their hands of him; or will they double, triple, quadruple down on his rhetorics.

I thought the GOP became the Trump party with the way all these GOP members suck up to him but seems like there's a lot who really hate him as well
 
2020-05-11 9:12:52 AM  
I sure hope so. The GOP has bern surviving on election rigging and using BSAB to depress the votes of the less enthusiastic voters. But I've started to see a collapse of the BSAB narrative. Liberals aren't mad at Trump the way conservatives were mad at Obama. Trump really is a shiatty President who is openly stealing from taxpayers and failing every test thrown at him. You don't have to be a liberal to see it clearly. So if the GOP doesn't have that then they don't have a lot to fall back on except to double down on election rigging.
 
2020-05-11 9:13:27 AM  
There's still no plan for them on how to deal with the virus, they're stuck thinking of ways to formulate propaganda to show its been a massive success. At this point it would be easier to do something competent about it, but they're all too afraid to say so.

The funniest thing about the GOP senate is that they could instantly put Trump in his place whenever they wanted to by functioning as a unit. But instead they just wait around for him to target them individually.
 
2020-05-11 9:14:00 AM  
"We got off slow in testing, there's no question about that," Romney told a group of Georgetown students last week during a group chat.  Romney said he was not "blaming this administration" but described the pandemic as "a black elephant" - in other words, an enormous problem "we should have seen coming."
Gosh, if only there'd been someone in the last 20 years or so who'd created plans for this sort of thing.  It could have been a Democrat, a Republican, or perhaps even both! If only they'd written down their findings in some sort of, I don't know, pandemic playbook we could have followed.  Wouldn't that have been swell?  No one would have been able to ignore that -- I mean, if they had there'd be no way anyone, even Romney, could fail to blame them for the massive loss of life that resulted from their unambiguous negligence.  But...since there was no pandemic playbook created from 2001 to 2016, we definitely don't need to blame them for not using it.  Phew.
 
2020-05-11 9:16:00 AM  

Blathering Idjut: The guy who used his bully pulpit to spend the last 4 years lobbing childish insults 24-7 at the beliefs, values and very existence of the majority of Americans is now unpopular?

How is this possible?  It's a real puzzler.


I mean, it's popular as hell when Democrats do it.
 
2020-05-11 9:20:06 AM  

Millennium: Blathering Idjut: The guy who used his bully pulpit to spend the last 4 years lobbing childish insults 24-7 at the beliefs, values and very existence of the majority of Americans is now unpopular?

How is this possible?  It's a real puzzler.

I mean, it's popular as hell when Democrats do it.


Thank you.  That's another thing.  Shame on elected Democrats for not regularly calling out the mouth-breathing, inbred, slope-browed, cousin-farkin' knuckle-draggers that make up the GOP base on a regular basis.  Stop treating those folks like people.  They never return the favor.
 
2020-05-11 9:25:29 AM  

SleepySheaBear: Whenever Drumpf is out of office, I wonder if the GOP will deny him being a true republican and try to wipe their hands of him; or will they double, triple, quadruple down on his rhetorics.

I thought the GOP became the Trump party with the way all these GOP members suck up to him but seems like there's a lot who really hate him as well


Of course they will. I have personally observed people who full-throatedly supported Bush the Lesser from the nascent discussions leading up the dishonestly named Operation Iraqi Freedom, from the first bombs dropped, through Mission Accomplished, to Bring Em On, now watch this drive, past the realization that there were no WMD, consistently saying "history will be kind to Bush" only to use "Trump never supported the Iraq War" as one of the reasons they support him.

The 2016 republican debates were an exercise in who could distance themselves the farthest from Bush's entire foreign policy. A policy that 10 years prior they loved so much they were virtually slapping each other away so they could be the one who took the money shot in their face.

They'll do this to Trump to.
 
2020-05-11 9:25:36 AM  

Millennium: Blathering Idjut: The guy who used his bully pulpit to spend the last 4 years lobbing childish insults 24-7 at the beliefs, values and very existence of the majority of Americans is now unpopular?

How is this possible?  It's a real puzzler.

I mean, it's popular as hell when Democrats do it.


Which was when?
 
2020-05-11 9:26:49 AM  

SleepySheaBear: Whenever Drumpf is out of office, I wonder if the GOP will deny him being a true republican and try to wipe their hands of him; or will they double, triple, quadruple down on his rhetorics.

I thought the GOP became the Trump party with the way all these GOP members suck up to him but seems like there's a lot who really hate him as well


Depends on how many of his cronies go down with him. If he loses the house, Senate and presidency he's Goldwater. If he loses but it's close and the cronies still carry their Senate seats he's Reagan.
 
2020-05-11 9:29:22 AM  

Psychopusher: OdradekRex: Coronavirus is polling higher than Trump at this point.

To be fair, Coronavirus would have polled higher than Trump with more than half the country in 2016 as well.


To be completely fair, it is doing the job it was evolved for completely efficiently and in top-notch form.  The same cannot be said of how the 45th PotUS and his elected job duties.
 
2020-05-11 9:31:44 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Millennium: Blathering Idjut: The guy who used his bully pulpit to spend the last 4 years lobbing childish insults 24-7 at the beliefs, values and very existence of the majority of Americans is now unpopular?

How is this possible?  It's a real puzzler.

I mean, it's popular as hell when Democrats do it.

Which was when?


The libs on Fark say mean things to him about his poor abusive barefoot inbred family and it is the same as if Obama did it or something.
 
2020-05-11 9:32:16 AM  
Actually, his popularity isn't hard to poll at all: https://projects.fivethirtyeight​.com/t​rump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo
 
2020-05-11 9:39:15 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: There's still no plan for them on how to deal with the virus, they're stuck thinking of ways to formulate propaganda to show its been a massive success. At this point it would be easier to do something competent about it, but they're all too afraid to say so.

The funniest thing about the GOP senate is that they could instantly put Trump in his place whenever they wanted to by functioning as a unit. But instead they just wait around for him to target them individually.


The GOPs inability to handle Trump is nothing short of fascinating. They insist on dealing with him as if he's just another politician, even after all this time--as if just pointing out something is a bad idea is going to work.

Maybe McConnell and the rest really are that stupid, maybe another blue wave is what they need to show them this is the wrong direction to take.
 
2020-05-11 9:40:43 AM  
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2020-05-11 9:41:19 AM  
Good thing you can win the Presidency with a little over 20% of the vote.

\mandate from the people? What's that?
 
2020-05-11 9:44:57 AM  

odinsposse: I sure hope so. The GOP has bern surviving on election rigging and using BSAB to depress the votes of the less enthusiastic voters. But I've started to see a collapse of the BSAB narrative. Liberals aren't mad at Trump the way conservatives were mad at Obama. Trump really is a shiatty President who is openly stealing from taxpayers and failing every test thrown at him. You don't have to be a liberal to see it clearly. So if the GOP doesn't have that then they don't have a lot to fall back on except to double down on election rigging.


Which unfortunately is something they're very good at.
 
2020-05-11 9:45:59 AM  

danvon: SleepySheaBear: Whenever Drumpf is out of office, I wonder if the GOP will deny him being a true republican and try to wipe their hands of him; or will they double, triple, quadruple down on his rhetorics.

I thought the GOP became the Trump party with the way all these GOP members suck up to him but seems like there's a lot who really hate him as well

Of course they will. I have personally observed people who full-throatedly supported Bush the Lesser from the nascent discussions leading up the dishonestly named Operation Iraqi Freedom, from the first bombs dropped, through Mission Accomplished, to Bring Em On, now watch this drive, past the realization that there were no WMD, consistently saying "history will be kind to Bush" only to use "Trump never supported the Iraq War" as one of the reasons they support him.

The 2016 republican debates were an exercise in who could distance themselves the farthest from Bush's entire foreign policy. A policy that 10 years prior they loved so much they were virtually slapping each other away so they could be the one who took the money shot in their face.

They'll do this to Trump to.


I hear what you're saying but it seems like they distanced themselves from Bush's policies. Trump seems to have a completely different kind of hold over the GOP. A lot of people compare it to a cult and I am having a hard time seeing it otherwise. They really seem to embrace his bullying and a general villain like demeanor. I'm sure a lot will move on to the next big thing but I feel like Trump's brand of politics is going to stick. I mean he's like Gingrich on steroids with zero shame or self awareness. I feel like the GOP will hold on to that or even get worse until they either die off as a party or America really gets farked.
 
2020-05-11 9:50:34 AM  
The lawmaker acknowledged that Trump is "hard to poll" and that he has defied pollsters' predictions he would lose to Hillary Clinton in 2016

Polls 2016: Hillary popular vote +3%
Actual results: Hillary popular vote +2%

That's not "defied pollsters". Can people stop saying this bullshiat??

Just because the electoral college vote isn't the population vote and your too stupid to understand the difference doesn't mean others "got it wrong". You were too stupid to understand what the numbers meant.
 
2020-05-11 9:52:13 AM  

SleepySheaBear: danvon: SleepySheaBear: Whenever Drumpf is out of office, I wonder if the GOP will deny him being a true republican and try to wipe their hands of him; or will they double, triple, quadruple down on his rhetorics.

I thought the GOP became the Trump party with the way all these GOP members suck up to him but seems like there's a lot who really hate him as well

Of course they will. I have personally observed people who full-throatedly supported Bush the Lesser from the nascent discussions leading up the dishonestly named Operation Iraqi Freedom, from the first bombs dropped, through Mission Accomplished, to Bring Em On, now watch this drive, past the realization that there were no WMD, consistently saying "history will be kind to Bush" only to use "Trump never supported the Iraq War" as one of the reasons they support him.

The 2016 republican debates were an exercise in who could distance themselves the farthest from Bush's entire foreign policy. A policy that 10 years prior they loved so much they were virtually slapping each other away so they could be the one who took the money shot in their face.

They'll do this to Trump to.

I hear what you're saying but it seems like they distanced themselves from Bush's policies. Trump seems to have a completely different kind of hold over the GOP. A lot of people compare it to a cult and I am having a hard time seeing it otherwise. They really seem to embrace his bullying and a general villain like demeanor. I'm sure a lot will move on to the next big thing but I feel like Trump's brand of politics is going to stick. I mean he's like Gingrich on steroids with zero shame or self awareness. I feel like the GOP will hold on to that or even get worse until they either die off as a party or America really gets farked.


You're right. The reason is unlike other politicians if republicans disagree with him he comes out and attacks them. That's what they are afraid of so they follow along.
 
2020-05-11 9:52:54 AM  
They'r worried they won't retain their Senate majority?  Has ANY of them managed to articulate why they think they DESERVE to after the last 18 months?
 
2020-05-11 9:53:54 AM  

Tarl3k: Actually, his popularity isn't hard to poll at all: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.​com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrp​romo


What they really mean is that Trump's popularity is averse to change and bad news doesn't drive it down nor does good news drive it up to any appreciable degree. He's underwater in popularity, but no further down than presidents have recovered from in the past and he was roughly this unpopular when he won election the first time.
 
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2020-05-11 9:57:06 AM  

Magorn: They'r worried they won't retain their Senate majority?  Has ANY of them managed to articulate why they think they DESERVE to after the last 18 months?


"We will have put in over 200 federal judges dedicated to claiming the conservative worldview of today is what the Founders intended when they wrote the Constitution and have projected 30+ year lifespans. Pretty sure that makes us the greatest Senate of all time."
 
2020-05-11 10:19:59 AM  

SleepySheaBear: danvon: SleepySheaBear: Whenever Drumpf is out of office, I wonder if the GOP will deny him being a true republican and try to wipe their hands of him; or will they double, triple, quadruple down on his rhetorics.

I thought the GOP became the Trump party with the way all these GOP members suck up to him but seems like there's a lot who really hate him as well

Of course they will. I have personally observed people who full-throatedly supported Bush the Lesser from the nascent discussions leading up the dishonestly named Operation Iraqi Freedom, from the first bombs dropped, through Mission Accomplished, to Bring Em On, now watch this drive, past the realization that there were no WMD, consistently saying "history will be kind to Bush" only to use "Trump never supported the Iraq War" as one of the reasons they support him.

The 2016 republican debates were an exercise in who could distance themselves the farthest from Bush's entire foreign policy. A policy that 10 years prior they loved so much they were virtually slapping each other away so they could be the one who took the money shot in their face.

They'll do this to Trump to.

I hear what you're saying but it seems like they distanced themselves from Bush's policies. Trump seems to have a completely different kind of hold over the GOP. A lot of people compare it to a cult and I am having a hard time seeing it otherwise. They really seem to embrace his bullying and a general villain like demeanor. I'm sure a lot will move on to the next big thing but I feel like Trump's brand of politics is going to stick. I mean he's like Gingrich on steroids with zero shame or self awareness. I feel like the GOP will hold on to that or even get worse until they either die off as a party or America really gets farked.


You may be right. This does appear to be more cult-like than before. I do see the masses to be more of the cultists than the bulk of what makes up the Senate GOP. I'm not saying there isn't a cultist in their ranks, but I think percentage wise, it's lower than what you find in the wild. They are doing what is politically expedient. However, if there does appear to be a shift away from Tump in the Trump base, I think you'll see them follow the same tack. If there's one thing that the republicans demonstrated beyond any doubt is that they have no principles that cannot be shoved out of the air-lock and into the void when it allows them to retain power.
 
2020-05-11 10:22:13 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Millennium: Blathering Idjut: The guy who used his bully pulpit to spend the last 4 years lobbing childish insults 24-7 at the beliefs, values and very existence of the majority of Americans is now unpopular?

How is this possible?  It's a real puzzler.

I mean, it's popular as hell when Democrats do it.

Which was when?


The last time I recall was Hilary's "basket of deplorables" comment, which got a farkton of pushback as did Obama's "cling to their guns and religion" comments. Both pf which were accurate statements as opposed to justchildish insults
 
2020-05-11 10:26:46 AM  

danvon: SleepySheaBear: danvon: SleepySheaBear: Whenever Drumpf is out of office, I wonder if the GOP will deny him being a true republican and try to wipe their hands of him; or will they double, triple, quadruple down on his rhetorics.

I thought the GOP became the Trump party with the way all these GOP members suck up to him but seems like there's a lot who really hate him as well

Of course they will. I have personally observed people who full-throatedly supported Bush the Lesser from the nascent discussions leading up the dishonestly named Operation Iraqi Freedom, from the first bombs dropped, through Mission Accomplished, to Bring Em On, now watch this drive, past the realization that there were no WMD, consistently saying "history will be kind to Bush" only to use "Trump never supported the Iraq War" as one of the reasons they support him.

The 2016 republican debates were an exercise in who could distance themselves the farthest from Bush's entire foreign policy. A policy that 10 years prior they loved so much they were virtually slapping each other away so they could be the one who took the money shot in their face.

They'll do this to Trump to.

I hear what you're saying but it seems like they distanced themselves from Bush's policies. Trump seems to have a completely different kind of hold over the GOP. A lot of people compare it to a cult and I am having a hard time seeing it otherwise. They really seem to embrace his bullying and a general villain like demeanor. I'm sure a lot will move on to the next big thing but I feel like Trump's brand of politics is going to stick. I mean he's like Gingrich on steroids with zero shame or self awareness. I feel like the GOP will hold on to that or even get worse until they either die off as a party or America really gets farked.

You may be right. This does appear to be more cult-like than before. I do see the masses to be more of the cultists than the bulk of what makes up the Senate GOP. I'm not saying there isn't a cultist in their ranks, but I think percentage wise, it's lower than what you find in the wild. They are doing what is politically expedient. However, if there does appear to be a shift away from Tump in the Trump base, I think you'll see them follow the same tack. If there's one thing that the republicans demonstrated beyond any doubt is that they have no principles that cannot be shoved out of the air-lock and into the void when it allows them to retain power.


What a sad lemming like cluster!

I am hoping you're right, because as nasty as politics can be, Trump hasn't made things unbearably childish. The daily usage of terms like fake news and other variations of la-la-la I can't  hear you is ridiculous.
 
2020-05-11 10:29:25 AM  
Saying "other world leaders" implies that Trump is a world leader.

He's not.
 
2020-05-11 10:31:20 AM  
Yeah..... but ..... his base is (unbelievably) holding on.
He's polling about like he did a year ago.

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2020-05-11 10:46:52 AM  

EvilEgg: These polls give me a glimmer of hope, with an undercurrent of dread.  That dread won't be gone until Jan 21st, and it may linger forever.


It should linger forever. Even if we beat Donnie in November, even if the Republicans lose the Senate, it's not over. The same human failures will still be with us. Appeals to fear, greed, and ignorance will still succeed. The battle never ends. Good never really defeats evil. It's the human condition. It's your birthright. Enjoy!
 
2020-05-11 10:48:17 AM  

Millennium: Blathering Idjut: The guy who used his bully pulpit to spend the last 4 years lobbing childish insults 24-7 at the beliefs, values and very existence of the majority of Americans is now unpopular?

How is this possible?  It's a real puzzler.

I mean, it's popular as hell when Democrats do it.


They don't. You're confusing legitimate criticism with childish taunts and misinformation coming from the WH Twitter Feed in defense of that criticism. Pointing out the ways Trump & Co. actually tried to extort the Ukraine is not the same as calling someone a "shifty pencil-neck" for the sin of doing constitutional mandated oversight. That's both a distinction and a difference.
 
2020-05-11 10:50:19 AM  

BMulligan: EvilEgg: These polls give me a glimmer of hope, with an undercurrent of dread.  That dread won't be gone until Jan 21st, and it may linger forever.

It should linger forever. Even if we beat Donnie in November, even if the Republicans lose the Senate, it's not over. The same human failures will still be with us. Appeals to fear, greed, and ignorance will still succeed. The battle never ends. Good never really defeats evil. It's the human condition. It's your birthright. Enjoy!


Reliance on any type of poll these days just means you are ignoring the outcome of 2016.  Hillary was a shoe in.. right now, Biden is trailing Hillary's lead in 2016 by a wide margin.

Also, its looking eerily familiar to this..

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo​l​ls/2016/president/us/general_election_​trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 
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