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2020-05-10 8:22:52 PM  
Former world leaders warn that the Trump administration risks alienating allies

"Risks".
 
2020-05-10 8:27:15 PM  

fusillade762: Former world leaders warn that the Trump administration risks alienating allies

"Risks".


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2020-05-10 8:29:52 PM  
America's leadership role was abandoned in January 2017.
 
2020-05-10 8:45:32 PM  
Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.
 
2020-05-10 8:47:53 PM  

Archie Goodwin: America's leadership role was abandoned in January 2017.


And for the same stupid reason as Brexit: MAGAs want all the benefits of being a world leader and none of the responsibilities.
 
2020-05-10 8:48:43 PM  
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2020-05-10 8:51:32 PM  
Vlad needs America isolated. He can't have a strong UN right now. Not with having nearly exhausted Russia's petty cash, and with a solid LACK of investment in their own ventures--seriously, Russia's entire stock exchange is worth less than Apple alone--means that they NEED new folks to kleptocratize. The contracts with the US thanks to Donnie are nice, but we're not switching to AKs or Hinds any time soon, and they don't have the production capacity or distribution set up to even THINK about competing with China and South East Asia. So, really, the cheaper move is to keep America hobbled with Donnie and his Idiot Brigade, and that way everyone's balloons sink lower, so he doesn't look like quite the putz and failure for watching everyone else, including African and South American nations surge. With the UK and the US both getting hobbled, and there was a good attempt at throwing those monkey wrenches at France and Germany too, it takes some of the pressure off.

For the investment, really, it IS the cheaper solution. Rather than setting up elaborate plots, you just help install incompetent boobs with dreams of glory and very little acumen. But our allies right now need to understand that so long as these idjits are mucking about, the US and the UK are pretty much off the board for a bit. And that is both our faults as much as Vlad, because some folks are quite happy to hear some comforting lies about how great they are, even while the country takes a digger into the sh*tter.

The hope really is to inspire and support Neo-Fascists and their fellow travelers, because it will take some time to sort out, especially with America and the UK's somewhat difficult past with racism. Throw in some simple-minded kleptocrats and old fashioned grifters, and it keeps the US focused on sorting this sh*t out, instead of using our resources and talent pool in a focused and useful manner.

Donnie and his Useful Idiots are proof that you can hobble a country not by attacking its government openly, but simply to support and foster incompetents and greedy SOBs, and let nature take its course.
 
2020-05-10 8:54:48 PM  
They've known for three years that America is run by a madman.  They should have known this would happen.
 
2020-05-10 9:07:15 PM  
Trump embraces brutal dictators and alienates allies.  It's what he does.
 
2020-05-10 9:15:42 PM  
Buzz Aldrin did it best
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2020-05-11 12:06:22 AM  
Anyone looking to this country for leadership must have a death wish.
 
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2020-05-11 1:25:11 AM  

edmo: Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.


He's the one who's running the country and controls foreign policy, it matters about as much as the typical Iranian being really sweet folks (true tbh).
Doesn't matter much of you're all cool sides when your country is say preventing ppe getting delivered to places etc.
 
2020-05-11 1:26:19 AM  

Jake Havechek: Trump embraces brutal dictators and alienates allies.  It's what he does.


He's giving away the salary he's getting because he feels guilty taking it while running the country into the ground
 
2020-05-11 1:28:20 AM  

edmo: Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.


It is republicans not just trump.
 
2020-05-11 1:29:02 AM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Jake Havechek: Trump embraces brutal dictators and alienates allies.  It's what he does.

He's giving away the salary he's getting because he feels guilty taking it while running the country into the ground


Can't drain the swamp until the country is in the ground.
 
2020-05-11 1:32:37 AM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Jake Havechek: Trump embraces brutal dictators and alienates allies.  It's what he does.

He's giving away the salary he's getting because he feels guilty taking it while running the country into the ground


Correction, he does not feel guilty. He knows not of what guilt means. Nor empathy or comraderie.

It's a scam. Outright bull pucky. The few hundred thousand he's "not taking" is overtaken by the other cheats he's doing by eradicating the purpose of the emoluments clause.

I'm farkin pissed.
 
2020-05-11 1:34:59 AM  
What a "quizzical dog face" looks like:

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2020-05-11 1:35:43 AM  
I'm sure what Donnie did to the Pandemic response team has measurably increased deaths worldwide, not just at home.
 
2020-05-11 1:35:52 AM  
He's compromised.

Of course he'll abandon any role that the U.S. holding might hurt Russia.

I hope once he is out of office, one way or another, every one of these traitors is under investigation.
 
2020-05-11 1:36:36 AM  
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2020-05-11 1:38:18 AM  
Trump is not capable of leadership of any sort.
 
2020-05-11 1:44:55 AM  
Because he does not know how to lead. He never has.

He does know how to bullshiat. And BS is not leadership.
 
2020-05-11 1:45:11 AM  

edmo: Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.


Trump + 40% of america.
 
2020-05-11 1:49:38 AM  

Shamwow: edmo: Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.

It is republicans not just trump.


This. If Jeb or Zodiac or any other Republican was in the Oval Office right now, they'd be just as destructive, if not worse because some of them might have been more effective.

The Republican Party is irredeemable, and until it is wiped off of the political map, America will always lag behind the rest of the developed world.
 
2020-05-11 1:54:22 AM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Jake Havechek: Trump embraces brutal dictators and alienates allies.  It's what he does.

He's giving away the salary he's getting because he feels guilty taking it while running the country into the ground


He says he's not taking his salary -- did anyone actually verify that?  He never seems to skip a grift. He's the guy who cashes 13 cent checks, for crying out loud.

Yet he has no problem whatsoever spending literally 300 years worth of presidential salary to take Airforce One for his private little golfing trips.
 
2020-05-11 2:03:03 AM  

Excelsior: J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Jake Havechek: Trump embraces brutal dictators and alienates allies.  It's what he does.

He's giving away the salary he's getting because he feels guilty taking it while running the country into the ground

He says he's not taking his salary -- did anyone actually verify that?  He never seems to skip a grift. He's the guy who cashes 13 cent checks, for crying out loud.

Yet he has no problem whatsoever spending literally 300 years worth of presidential salary to take Airforce One for his private little golfing trips.


Yeah, well, y'see, he'd love to show you that he's not taking a salary, and that in fact, all of those Air Force One trips were free because he makes the best deals with fuel companies, but he's under audit. So, y'know, hands are tied.
 
2020-05-11 2:10:20 AM  
For the past decade, people wanted America not to always be taking charge, to keep out of foreign affairs, to let other countries handle their own problems.

Well, this is what that looks like. We're teetering on becoming international pariahs now.

Is that how you wanted it? Is this what you were after? America not taking charge because nobody wants us to help?
 
2020-05-11 2:10:42 AM  

Archie Goodwin: America's leadership role was abandoned in January 2017.


Inauguration is nice and all, but November 2016 is the date I'd go with.
 
2020-05-11 2:12:48 AM  

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And remember the president that all polls etc showed was widely respected in every country whose opinion anyone should cate about was a laughing stock.

But the one that was literally laughed at to his face by the entire UN and repeatedly had world leaders caught laughing behind his back is the big, strong, respected leader.
 
2020-05-11 2:18:01 AM  

dywed88: Unscratchable_Itch: [Fark user image image 636x267]

And remember the president that all polls etc showed was widely respected in every country whose opinion anyone should cate about was a laughing stock.

But the one that was literally laughed at to his face by the entire UN and repeatedly had world leaders caught laughing behind his back is the big, strong, respected leader.


It must be nice having a reality inversion field on to 100% like that (no i don't mean you specifically).
 
2020-05-11 2:19:54 AM  
This is everything we were worried about when this idiot became a real threat.  What happens when America can't get a hold on this and other countries can? Can the world quarantine the U.S.? When the next administration steps in and tries to make up for lost time the protests will be a lot worse then the Vanilla Isis shiat we're seeing today. I'm not seeing a transition to greatness even after the Crackhead is gone.
 
2020-05-11 2:21:22 AM  

orundarkes: Archie Goodwin: America's leadership role was abandoned in January 2017.

Inauguration is nice and all, but November 2016 is the date I'd go with.


Obama was still President until noon, Friday 20 January 2017.
 
2020-05-11 2:23:36 AM  

Le Brusier: This is everything we were worried about when this idiot became a real threat.  What happens when America can't get a hold on this and other countries can? Can the world quarantine the U.S.? When the next administration steps in and tries to make up for lost time the protests will be a lot worse then the Vanilla Isis shiat we're seeing today. I'm not seeing a transition to greatness even after the Crackhead is gone.


It is going to take decades to recover the ground lost. And that does not factor in further Republican administrations either.
 
2020-05-11 2:30:04 AM  
America first: Most cases in the world!
America alone: No one else over 1 million!

Winning
 
2020-05-11 2:46:00 AM  

Gyrfalcon: For the past decade, people wanted America not to always be taking charge, to keep out of foreign affairs, to let other countries handle their own problems.

Well, this is what that looks like. We're teetering on becoming international pariahs now.

Is that how you wanted it? Is this what you were after? America not taking charge because nobody wants us to help?


I think that there's a difference between leveraging our R&D, scientists, manufacturing, and military logistics to help deal with crises and sticking our dicks in situations that are farked enough already...
 
2020-05-11 3:02:51 AM  
Save us, Angela Merkel. You're our only hope.
 
2020-05-11 3:11:52 AM  
He's been busy.

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2020-05-11 3:23:43 AM  

twat_waffle: Gyrfalcon: For the past decade, people wanted America not to always be taking charge, to keep out of foreign affairs, to let other countries handle their own problems.

Well, this is what that looks like. We're teetering on becoming international pariahs now.

Is that how you wanted it? Is this what you were after? America not taking charge because nobody wants us to help?

I think that there's a difference between leveraging our R&D, scientists, manufacturing, and military logistics to help deal with crises and sticking our dicks in situations that are farked enough already...


Yes, and there's a difference between both of those and everyone saying "no no; we know you have more of everything that we need and want; we just don't want YOU."

There's a big difference between staying out by choice and being locked out; America has never been locked out before and I don't think people appreciate the distinction.
 
2020-05-11 4:11:21 AM  

anfrind: They've known for three years that America is run by a madman.  They should have known this would happen.


Not allies, but our enemies are counting on it.
 
2020-05-11 4:31:22 AM  
Make America Weak Again.

That's all stepping back from the world stage does.

Let's quit the UN while we're at it so the US won't have a  seat at the table (Permanent Member of the Security Council with VETO power) anymore.

I thought Juche was for North Koreans, but apparently it's what Trump wants for the US.  BTW, how is "Juche" working out for North Korea?

And I've thought about the UN veto thing.  If we stripped Russia and China of their veto power we would have to give up ours too and...well...maybe that would be more fair, and I'm very hesitant to agree with Qaddafi, but he kind of had a point:

"The Preamble states in writing that all nations are equal whether they are small or large. Do we have the right of veto? Are we equal? The Preamble says that we have equal rights, whether we are large or small.
That is what is stated and what we agreed in the Preamble. So the veto contradicts the Charter. The permanent seats contradict the Charter. We neither accept nor recognize the veto."

What we, as Americans, should take away from that is the recognition that the UN gives us great power.  Oh well.

"It should not be called the Security Council, it should be called the terror council," he added. "Permanent is something for God only. We are not fools to give the power of veto to great powers so they can use us and treat us as second-class citizens."

Here we have Qaddafi pointing out that our position as a Permanent Member of the Security Council gives us great power over nations like Libya and yet Republicans are eager to give that up. (I don't think Republican politicians are that stupid, but their voters are).

Go figure.


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(Qaddafi pitched his tent at Trump's house.  Can anyone imagine the uproar if Obama had hosted Qaddafi?  Reagan tried to kill Qaddafi and then 30 years later Republicans voted for a guy who invited the terrorist to his house for a sleepover).
 
2020-05-11 5:07:44 AM  
this article, I think, was a pretty good representation of what it feels like to be on the outside looking in at what's happening in America.

It's literally truly like watching he wants competent relative/colleague/whatever fall into psychosis.
 
2020-05-11 5:29:14 AM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Jake Havechek: Trump embraces brutal dictators and alienates allies.  It's what he does.

He's giving away the salary he's getting because he feels guilty taking it while running the country into the ground


He's not giving it away. He's hedging it as a bet that he can earn more via theft from government contracts.
 
2020-05-11 6:03:19 AM  

hubiestubert: ... especially with America and the UK's somewhat difficult past with racism.


That's like saying "Oedipus had mommy issues" or "JFK had a headache in Dallas."
 
2020-05-11 6:53:40 AM  

archeochick: hubiestubert: ... especially with America and the UK's somewhat difficult past with racism.

That's like saying "Oedipus had mommy issues" or "JFK had a headache in Dallas."


Well, we did get a gift of understatement from the Brits too...
 
2020-05-11 7:31:57 AM  
Anyone still looking to the US for leadership right now is a farking moron. Depending on how things go over the next few month and years, that may become a permanent thing.
 
2020-05-11 7:32:42 AM  

edmo: Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.


It's easily at least 30% of the rest of us.
 
2020-05-11 8:01:22 AM  
Leadership role in what, subby? Fast food? The rest of the world has been trying to figure out how to vote us off the planet.
But every time we commit some new outrage we've "squandered the good will and respect of the world community blah blah blah." Horse shiat. The rest of the world was already sick of being repeatedly threatened with nuclear war fifty years ago.
 
2020-05-11 8:07:47 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: edmo: Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.

It's easily at least 30% of the rest of us.


If you include allowing the conditions for this rot to grow to continue and doing nothing about while it grew it's all of you. Trump isn't some shot in the dark mystery success. Trump is the end result of a larger trend that took decades to fester.
 
2020-05-11 8:13:16 AM  

Egoy3k: Dictatorial_Flair: edmo: Just remember it's Trump, not the rest of us.

It's easily at least 30% of the rest of us.

If you include allowing the conditions for this rot to grow to continue and doing nothing about while it grew it's all of you. Trump isn't some shot in the dark mystery success. Trump is the end result of a larger trend that took decades to fester.


Short of saturation bombing a third of our own country, or starting a civil war I'm not really sure what most average people could have done about it. Plenty of people have voted against the sort of government and policies that got us to this point. The non-participants, shiatty Supreme Court rulings, gerrymandering, and widespread active voter suppression carried the day for several decades, now we're here.

What do you propose we could have realistically done about it?
 
2020-05-11 8:14:12 AM  
Look, you can be the Leader of the Free World or you can sh*t Tweet 100 times a day. It's all a matter of priorities.
 
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