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2020-05-08 4:52:46 PM  
The adjustments, outlined in a 2,033-page document and set to go into effect Aug. 14, no longer require coaches and other employees at colleges and universities to report allegations to the Title IX office. They also give schools a choice in what standard of proof they'd like to follow, bolster protections for the accused and require live hearings and cross examinations.

Worst timeline.
 
2020-05-08 5:16:18 PM  
Like gun laws, people weren't following the rules so therefore therules must be discarded.
 
2020-05-08 5:47:10 PM  
WTGoddamnedF??

fark you, DeVos, you disgusting coont.
 
2020-05-08 5:54:22 PM  
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2020-05-08 5:55:38 PM  

GypsyJoker: WTGoddamnedF??

fark you, DeVos, you disgusting coont.


^^^ Couldn't put it any better.
Except for... she can't be a c*nt, she lacks the depth and the warmth.
 
2020-05-08 6:33:54 PM  
colleges shouldn't be involved in this at all.  It's a criminal act why on earth would you want a college admin involved in the process?

See: Sandusky, MSU, etc.

If someone knows of a sex crime and doesn't report it because there isn't an admin policy saying they have to then there is a special level of hell for them.
 
2020-05-08 6:41:38 PM  
But her emails.
 
2020-05-08 7:26:59 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: colleges shouldn't be involved in this at all.  It's a criminal act why on earth would you want a college admin involved in the process?

See: Sandusky, MSU, etc.

If someone knows of a sex crime and doesn't report it because there isn't an admin policy saying they have to then there is a special level of hell for them.


I'd rather it be mandatory, so if someone decides to be a shiatty human being, they lose their job, any severance package, and have a special place in hell on earth.
 
2020-05-08 7:46:41 PM  
Well, of course this administration is going to focus on protecting rapists.
 
2020-05-08 8:05:09 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: colleges shouldn't be involved in this at all.  It's a criminal act why on earth would you want a college admin involved in the process?

See: Sandusky, MSU, etc.

If someone knows of a sex crime and doesn't report it because there isn't an admin policy saying they have to then there is a special level of hell for them.


With child molesters and people who talk in theatres.
 
2020-05-08 8:10:04 PM  
...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.
 
2020-05-08 8:18:14 PM  

LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.


Just remember that her brother is Eric Prince. They come from Tupperware money and then went into the predatory "technical college" racket. It explains every motive.
 
2020-05-08 8:49:15 PM  

LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.


It's rough being let down every farkin day for the last few years.  :(
 
2020-05-08 9:12:59 PM  

baron von doodle: LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.

Just remember that her brother is Eric Prince. They come from Tupperware money and then went into the predatory "technical college" racket. It explains every motive.


Tupperware they wish.  These arseholes got rich from Amway.
 
2020-05-08 9:39:29 PM  

UNC_Samurai: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: colleges shouldn't be involved in this at all.  It's a criminal act why on earth would you want a college admin involved in the process?

See: Sandusky, MSU, etc.

If someone knows of a sex crime and doesn't report it because there isn't an admin policy saying they have to then there is a special level of hell for them.

I'd rather it be mandatory, so if someone decides to be a shiatty human being, they lose their job, any severance package, and have a special place in hell on earth.


Mandatory to report it to a college whose best interest is to diminish it?   Make it mandatory to have to report it to the police like with child abuse and I am all for that.
 
2020-05-08 9:50:33 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: UNC_Samurai: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: colleges shouldn't be involved in this at all.  It's a criminal act why on earth would you want a college admin involved in the process?

See: Sandusky, MSU, etc.

If someone knows of a sex crime and doesn't report it because there isn't an admin policy saying they have to then there is a special level of hell for them.

I'd rather it be mandatory, so if someone decides to be a shiatty human being, they lose their job, any severance package, and have a special place in hell on earth.

Mandatory to report it to a college whose best interest is to diminish it?   Make it mandatory to have to report it to the police like with child abuse and I am all for that.


I'm fine with that or both. I just want to make sure that people who do nothing don't get to walk away scot-free.
 
2020-05-08 10:16:44 PM  
Representative James Traficant's corpse thanks Representative Jim Jordan for taking over the top spot of being less than a decent person and going from Ohio to Washington, I imagine that Ed O'Neill will not be doing the heavy lifting on getting a documentary for Representative Jordan off the ground.
 
2020-05-08 10:18:47 PM  

Evil Roy Slade: baron von doodle: LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.

Just remember that her brother is Eric Prince. They come from Tupperware money and then went into the predatory "technical college" racket. It explains every motive.

Tupperware they wish.  These arseholes got rich from Amway.


Shirt, sorry. You are correct. Was going off of memory. Well, Amway is even more hinky.
 
2020-05-08 10:19:12 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: UNC_Samurai: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: colleges shouldn't be involved in this at all.  It's a criminal act why on earth would you want a college admin involved in the process?

See: Sandusky, MSU, etc.

If someone knows of a sex crime and doesn't report it because there isn't an admin policy saying they have to then there is a special level of hell for them.

I'd rather it be mandatory, so if someone decides to be a shiatty human being, they lose their job, any severance package, and have a special place in hell on earth.

Mandatory to report it to a college whose best interest is to diminish it?   Make it mandatory to have to report it to the police like with child abuse and I am all for that.


Yes
 
2020-05-08 10:25:12 PM  

lindalouwho: LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.

It's rough being let down every farkin day for the last few years.  :(


Some links to cheer you up.

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2020-05-08 10:43:59 PM  

baron von doodle: lindalouwho: LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.

It's rough being let down every farkin day for the last few years.  :(

Some links to cheer you up.

https://www.boredpanda.com/crap-wildli​fe-photography/?utm_source=google&utm_​medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-crapp​y-wildlife-photography/?utm_source=far​k&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&​ICID=ref_fark

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2020-05-08 10:53:17 PM  

lindalouwho: baron von doodle: lindalouwho: LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.

It's rough being let down every farkin day for the last few years.  :(

Some links to cheer you up.

https://www.boredpanda.com/crap-wildli​fe-photography/?utm_source=google&utm_​medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-crapp​y-wildlife-photography/?utm_source=far​k&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&​ICID=ref_fark

2nd one was a Fark link. Example:
[Fark user image image 425x425]

Aww you're the best! Thanks.


Np.
 
2020-05-08 11:02:09 PM  
devos needs to go along with her boss and the rest of his merry band of morons and grifters.  Hell I'll be honest ever GOP member of congress needs to lose reelection and no GOP candidate needs to win election to any office for 10 years maybe then the GOP will finally realize they need to get their heads out of thier arses and change for the better.
 
2020-05-08 11:05:12 PM  

grimlock1972: devos needs to go along with her boss and the rest of his merry band of morons and grifters.  Hell I'll be honest ever GOP member of congress needs to lose reelection and no GOP candidate needs to win election to any office for 10 years maybe then the GOP will finally realize they need to get their heads out of thier arses and change for the better.


Even if we kick the asshats out (ideally McConnell and Graham), it will swing back in a few years because voters are goldfish.
 
2020-05-08 11:10:46 PM  

lindalouwho: baron von doodle: lindalouwho: LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.

It's rough being let down every farkin day for the last few years.  :(

Some links to cheer you up.

https://www.boredpanda.com/crap-wildli​fe-photography/?utm_source=google&utm_​medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-crapp​y-wildlife-photography/?utm_source=far​k&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&​ICID=ref_fark

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Aww you're the best! Thanks.


Got you a squirrel. Planned on spending $100 on Oh Fark! Thought I would spread it around.
 
2020-05-08 11:31:10 PM  

baron von doodle: lindalouwho: baron von doodle: lindalouwho: LesserEvil: ...sigh... this actually goes too far. My initial reading was that they were at least trying to prevent punitive measures against somebody for merely being accused, and schools have gone too far on that count, but not reporting misconduct?

What is the nature of "bolstering protection of the accused"? I can understand the need to address due process, and like it or not, some people lie, either my malice or due to mental illness. However.... if there is an established pattern, corroborating witnesses or evidence, and a lack of exculpatory evidence, then there is certainly enough for the school to act on (civil preponderance of evidence  applies to the actions a school would take).

What is needed is common sense, not a pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction.

I guess I should not have expected DeVos to establish policy that makes sense.

It's rough being let down every farkin day for the last few years.  :(

Some links to cheer you up.

https://www.boredpanda.com/crap-wildli​fe-photography/?utm_source=google&utm_​medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-crapp​y-wildlife-photography/?utm_source=far​k&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&​ICID=ref_fark

2nd one was a Fark link. Example:
[Fark user image image 425x425]

Aww you're the best! Thanks.

Got you a squirrel. Planned on spending $100 on Oh Fark! Thought I would spread it around.


*puts hands behind back, digs toe into the dirt*

Gosh golly gee whiz, I just got the message. Thank you, now I can get off the porch and run with the big dogs!
 
2020-05-09 12:22:50 AM  

WoodyHayes: Representative James Traficant's corpse thanks Representative Jim Jordan for taking over the top spot of being less than a decent person and going from Ohio to Washington, I imagine that Ed O'Neill will not be doing the heavy lifting on getting a documentary for Representative Jordan off the ground.


How can you not mention Buz Lukens!?!
 
2020-05-09 7:31:01 AM  

Moopy Mac: WoodyHayes: Representative James Traficant's corpse thanks Representative Jim Jordan for taking over the top spot of being less than a decent person and going from Ohio to Washington, I imagine that Ed O'Neill will not be doing the heavy lifting on getting a documentary for Representative Jordan off the ground.

How can you not mention Buz Lukens!?!


I knew the name from somewhere but nothing stuck out so I had to Google. Holy crap, we are all about class here in Ohio! My people!
.
 
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