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(NPR)   True to form, Trump had already fallen behind on America's pledged payments to the World Health Organization before he decided to blame his ineptitude on them and declare he wouldn't be paying them anymore, anyway   (npr.org) divider line
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2020-05-07 9:06:59 AM  
Let's be honest here.  The only surprising thing is that he didn't stop paying them a long time ago.
 
2020-05-07 9:08:26 AM  
The GOP is all about incompetence, which is why Trump leads them so effortlessly.
 
2020-05-07 9:34:10 AM  
Deadbeat f*cking schlub.

In most decent families, his uncles and brothers would've beat the shiat out of him several times already to make him stop being a turd.
 
2020-05-07 9:36:03 AM  
194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America First
 
2020-05-07 10:00:33 AM  

Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First


FTFY.
 
2020-05-07 10:00:33 AM  
I ain't paying this cable bill! Ain't nothing on TV anyway and it's all lies!

Why can't I watch my Fox News?! BOY! Come help me get the TV working!
 
2020-05-07 10:00:55 AM  
We're close to the bankruptcy phase of this, aren't we?
 
2020-05-07 10:02:50 AM  
I hate Trump but WHO should ask its Beijing masters to make up the shortfall in US payments.
 
2020-05-07 10:03:51 AM  
The Venn diagram between Trump's gross incompetence and intentional malevolence is pretty much the Japanese flag at this point.

I would definitely not complain if he and his lackeys get a one way trip to The Hague.
 
2020-05-07 10:04:26 AM  

max_rebo_groupie: We're close to the bankruptcy phase of this, aren't we?


Nah, they're not done looting America yet.
 
2020-05-07 10:05:19 AM  
Oh how the mighty have fallen.  Somehow in less than 4 years the US has gone from a powerful, influential member of the world community, to being some sort of embarrassing family member we all try to pretend doesn't exist.  All it took was less than four years?!?!  How was this possible, how could the USoA be such a shallow beast?  It appeared to be so strong but in the end it is embarrassingly embarrassing.  Sure it is still the "biggest" beast in the community, but no one fears it anymore and shockingly no one respects it anymore.  What changed over such a short period of time, to make the US the laughing stock of the world?
 
2020-05-07 10:08:41 AM  
He kept asking, "WHO?"
 
2020-05-07 10:09:57 AM  
It's just Trump's normal business model. don't pay then file bankruptcy.
 
2020-05-07 10:16:30 AM  

jerryskid: Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First

FTFY.


Please don't attack IlDouchey. You can't begin to fathom what kinds of difficulties he has because of his disability. I personally am inspired by his tireless, though fruitless effort to try and live with even a modicum of normalcy. I'm not asking you to feel the same, just don't insult him or point out the elementary flaws in his statements. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Don't demean that, please.
 
2020-05-07 10:19:04 AM  

Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America First


And in return for our generous investment, the WHO advised us that there was no evidence of human to human transmission and that masks didn't work to prevent the spread of the disease.
 
JJR
2020-05-07 10:19:26 AM  
Another incompetent, useless and criminal organization loved buy the left.
 
2020-05-07 10:20:18 AM  

brokenbiscuits: jerryskid: Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First

FTFY.

Please don't attack IlDouchey. You can't begin to fathom what kinds of difficulties he has because of his disability. I personally am inspired by his tireless, though fruitless effort to try and live with even a modicum of normalcy. I'm not asking you to feel the same, just don't insult him or point out the elementary flaws in his statements. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Don't demean that, please.


Please cite sources that dispute any of the facts that IlDouchey laid out above.
 
2020-05-07 10:27:19 AM  
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Donny must be getting his advice from a bass player
 
2020-05-07 10:29:37 AM  

vikingfan73: brokenbiscuits: jerryskid: Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First

FTFY.

Please don't attack IlDouchey. You can't begin to fathom what kinds of difficulties he has because of his disability. I personally am inspired by his tireless, though fruitless effort to try and live with even a modicum of normalcy. I'm not asking you to feel the same, just don't insult him or point out the elementary flaws in his statements. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Don't demean that, please.

Please cite sources that dispute any of the facts that IlDouchey laid out above.


So the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet?

Is that part of the trade war strategy cotton?
 
2020-05-07 10:30:47 AM  

Langdon_777: What changed over such a short period of time, to make the US the laughing stock of the world?


If you don't mind me answering your question with another question, where have you people been hiding for the last fifty years?

Seriously, I've spent my life watching my fellow Americans fight a dirty, desperate, world-wide rearguard against the advancing forces of human rights and world peace. What were you looking at?
 
2020-05-07 10:31:30 AM  

links136: vikingfan73: brokenbiscuits: jerryskid: Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First

FTFY.

Please don't attack IlDouchey. You can't begin to fathom what kinds of difficulties he has because of his disability. I personally am inspired by his tireless, though fruitless effort to try and live with even a modicum of normalcy. I'm not asking you to feel the same, just don't insult him or point out the elementary flaws in his statements. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Don't demean that, please.

Please cite sources that dispute any of the facts that IlDouchey laid out above.

So the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet?

Is that part of the trade war strategy cotton?


They never fully explain how the WHO is China's "puppet".
 
2020-05-07 10:33:43 AM  

Mrtraveler01: links136: vikingfan73: brokenbiscuits: jerryskid: Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First

FTFY.

Please don't attack IlDouchey. You can't begin to fathom what kinds of difficulties he has because of his disability. I personally am inspired by his tireless, though fruitless effort to try and live with even a modicum of normalcy. I'm not asking you to feel the same, just don't insult him or point out the elementary flaws in his statements. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Don't demean that, please.

Please cite sources that dispute any of the facts that IlDouchey laid out above.

So the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet?

Is that part of the trade war strategy cotton?

They never fully explain how the WHO is China's "puppet".


Well it's because they praised China's response.  Hoe  WHO could ever be able to study viruses again in china without doing Soni don't know.

I imagine they'll use the army they don't have to march right in or something.
 
2020-05-07 10:36:44 AM  

Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America First


Listen, nimrod--when you want to dictate policy, trade, and commerce to the world, you need to do a little more.

Notice how America *WAS* first back then and now it's *NOT*.
Do the math, nimrod.
 
2020-05-07 10:38:30 AM  

Psychopusher: Let's be honest here.  The only surprising thing is that he didn't stop paying them a long time ago.


Hold the presses!  You mean to tell me someone that has a record of not paying his bills on time is not paying bills on time?  Whar my fainting couch?!?!
 
2020-05-07 10:38:41 AM  
Successful Businessman ®©™
 
2020-05-07 10:43:09 AM  

mrwknd: It's just Trump's normal business model. don't pay then file bankruptcy.


You're forgetting a few important steps.

THE TRUMP BUSINESS MODEL

1. Inherit $400M tax-free through various illegal tax schemes
2. Contract with smaller business for goods and services
3. Receive goods and services
4. Don't pay (30 day notice)
5. Don't pay (60 day notice)
6. Don't pay (90 day notice)
7. Don't pay (final notice from contractor's attorney)
8. Use lawyers inherited from daddy to sue contractor for supposed breach of contract
9. Negotiate settlement where you pay some but not all of the original bill (repeat up to 208 times)
10. File for bankruptcy (repeat up to six times)
11. Use other people's $916M losses in your bankrupt business to avoid paying taxes for years

It's a pretty good system, if you ignore the bankruptcies of his own businesses, and the ones whose only mistake was to do business with him in the first place.
 
2020-05-07 10:47:11 AM  
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2020-05-07 10:54:46 AM  

links136: vikingfan73: brokenbiscuits: jerryskid: Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First

FTFY.

Please don't attack IlDouchey. You can't begin to fathom what kinds of difficulties he has because of his disability. I personally am inspired by his tireless, though fruitless effort to try and live with even a modicum of normalcy. I'm not asking you to feel the same, just don't insult him or point out the elementary flaws in his statements. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Don't demean that, please.

Please cite sources that dispute any of the facts that IlDouchey laid out above.

So the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet?

Is that part of the trade war strategy cotton?


Yes, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.

WHO was actively praising the response of the Chinese government, which clearly failed its people and the rest of the world.

The USA has been funding over 25% of the WHO budget.

Therefore, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.

If you'd like me to get out some crayons to draw you a picture, please let me know.
 
2020-05-07 11:03:16 AM  

Langdon_777: Oh how the mighty have fallen.  Somehow in less than 4 years the US has gone from a powerful, influential member of the world community, to being some sort of embarrassing family member we all try to pretend doesn't exist.  All it took was less than four years?!?!  How was this possible, how could the USoA be such a shallow beast?  It appeared to be so strong but in the end it is embarrassingly embarrassing.  Sure it is still the "biggest" beast in the community, but no one fears it anymore and shockingly no one respects it anymore.  What changed over such a short period of time, to make the US the laughing stock of the world?


The rest of the world stopped GAF and no longer wanted to be part of the suicide pact anymore.
 
2020-05-07 11:24:01 AM  

vikingfan73: brokenbiscuits: jerryskid: Il Douchey: 194 WHO member nations, but the United States pays 25% of the tab.  Time for eastern hemisphere countries to find a new sucker to fleece.  Let China pay for it's puppet WHO.

In 2018, 2019 WHO assessed USA $237 million, in addition, we voluntarily contributed $656 million.  Compare that to any of the other 193 members.  And yet, we are the ones getting biatched at.

/America Russia First

FTFY.

Please don't attack IlDouchey. You can't begin to fathom what kinds of difficulties he has because of his disability. I personally am inspired by his tireless, though fruitless effort to try and live with even a modicum of normalcy. I'm not asking you to feel the same, just don't insult him or point out the elementary flaws in his statements. He's doing the best he can with what he has. Don't demean that, please.

Please cite sources that dispute any of the facts that IlDouchey laid out above.


Ok, I didn't realize you were a fellow sufferer... Please let me slow down here. I'll try and explain it for you...
IlDouchey gave concrete evidence at the start of his statement to try and establish everything he was saying was fact. He used what's called a "fallacy of composition" to state the WHO is a Chinese puppet. That means that he provided solid evidence for a part of his statement (how much money the US was assessed and willingly paid in) and infers other portions of the statement (WHO are Chinese puppets) are true without actually supporting it. That's like me showing you an apple and saying, "This apple is red and delicious." The first part about its color could be easily discerned by appearance and thus true. The last part is stated without evidence and thus could be a lie. If you bought the apple from me expecting it to be tasty and bit into it finding it was a rotten apple that had been painted you'd be upset.

Also, there's no context to the statements. Yes, $637,000,000 is a lot of money to the average person. But consider that the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act fron 2017 was projected to result in an increase of roughly 1.9 trillion dollars to the national deficit (https://www.cbo.gov/publication/5365​1) between 2018 and 2028. That's 190 billion dollars  year, or 15.83 billion dollars per month, or more than 520 million per day. That means that the amount of money the US government owes, mostly to China, is increasing more per day than double what our assessed WHO contribution rate for a whole year was.

Sorry... Ummmm. We're losing twice as much money per day than we were asked to spend on the WHO for a whole year.
Did the WHO makes mistakes? Probably. But they also are a relatively small, medical org that depends on cooperation from it's members. They've also led the charge for trying to cushion the impact of this disease for everyone around the world. Love thy neighbor, and all that.
 
2020-05-07 11:26:37 AM  
vikingfan73:
Yes, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.

In terms of combined assessed and voluntary contributions, US pays 15.9% of the WHO's budget, while the UK pays 7.7%. So per capita, the UK pays 2.3 times as much as the USA.

WHO was actively praising the response of the Chinese government, which clearly failed its people and the rest of the world.

China has far better contained COVID 19 than any of the Western countries have. And China didn't get any advance warning. Why shouldn't the WHO praise China?

The USA has been funding over 25% of the WHO budget.
Therefore, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.


See above.

For the avoidance of doubt: I think that the Chinese government is an unpleasant and scary totalitarian state; I just happen to think that it handed the COVID response far better than people with a vested interest in deflecting blame are willing to concede.
 
2020-05-07 11:32:11 AM  

Sharkey's End: vikingfan73:
Yes, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.

In terms of combined assessed and voluntary contributions, US pays 15.9% of the WHO's budget, while the UK pays 7.7%. So per capita, the UK pays 2.3 times as much as the USA.

WHO was actively praising the response of the Chinese government, which clearly failed its people and the rest of the world.

China has far better contained COVID 19 than any of the Western countries have. And China didn't get any advance warning. Why shouldn't the WHO praise China?

The USA has been funding over 25% of the WHO budget.
Therefore, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.

See above.

For the avoidance of doubt: I think that the Chinese government is an unpleasant and scary totalitarian state; I just happen to think that it handed the COVID response far better than people with a vested interest in deflecting blame are willing to concede.


I see that you're assuming that the Chinese government has been open and transparent about its infection rate and death toll.

For a bunch of people that have been screaming about Russian influence over the past few years, you're all surprisingly willing to believe the data and statements issued by the unpleasant and scary totalitarian Chinese state.
 
2020-05-07 11:57:08 AM  

Sharkey's End: vikingfan73:
Yes, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.

In terms of combined assessed and voluntary contributions, US pays 15.9% of the WHO's budget, while the UK pays 7.7%. So per capita, the UK pays 2.3 times as much as the USA.

WHO was actively praising the response of the Chinese government, which clearly failed its people and the rest of the world.

China has far better contained COVID 19 than any of the Western countries have. And China didn't get any advance warning. Why shouldn't the WHO praise China?

The USA has been funding over 25% of the WHO budget.
Therefore, the USA has been largely paying for China's puppet.

See above.

For the avoidance of doubt: I think that the Chinese government is an unpleasant and scary totalitarian state; I just happen to think that it handed the COVID response far better than people with a vested interest in deflecting blame are willing to concede.


One, as you say, it's a totalitarian state.  Draconian closures mandated by a central government is always going to be an easier task than a Republic system.  You take the good and the bad having a sometimes decentralized government system.

Two, the Chinese govt's handling was botched in the beginning which resulted in a lot of deaths, it stifled (and caused the death or detainment) of whistleblowers or critics, and it pressured other countries and arguably WHO and other multinational organizations to push a line that it was business and travel as usual with China until it became totally untenable.

In summary, China doesn't deserve any praise for its handling of Covid.  And the US couldn't replicate China's response unless it wants to shred its Constitution.
 
2020-05-07 12:25:11 PM  
Sharkey's End:

China has far better contained COVID 19 than any of the Western countries have. And China didn't get any advance warning. Why shouldn't the WHO praise China?

Had one more comment here for context.

I would strongly encourage you to shift your praise to Kim Jong-un's COVID-19 response in North Korea.  Incredibly, while economically dependent upon and located adjacent to the country that was the source of the outbreak, they have completely avoided the crisis.  Not one of their citizens has contracted the virus.  Amazing, isn't it?

The virus originated in an incredibly densely populated area of China.  If China didn't get any advance warning, i find it awfully hard to believe that, to date, there have been fewer people infected in the entire country of 1.4 billion people than in this country of 330 million, and that they have only had 4,637 deaths compared to the state of New York at 25,623 deaths.

The Chinese government (not the people, mind you, the government) is lying, and always has been lying.  The WHO carried the Chinese government's water and was complicit in the lies.  And the impact on the rest of the world has been devastating.
 
2020-05-07 2:02:54 PM  
China went from a doctor reporting an unusual cluster of pneumonias to her hospital admin, to full countrywide lockdown, in under a month. The US went from first reported case, to a few states starting to implement varying levels of social isolation, in 2 months. Compared to the lockdown in China, the efforts of the US (and most Western countries) were tardy and half-hearted.

This is why I think the infection and death rates reported by China are entirely plausible. It may eventually turn out that they were lying about the figures, but at the moment there is no particular reason to assume that they are actually lying.
 
2020-05-07 5:02:54 PM  

Sharkey's End: China went from a doctor reporting an unusual cluster of pneumonias to her hospital admin, to full countrywide lockdown, in under a month. The US went from first reported case, to a few states starting to implement varying levels of social isolation, in 2 months. Compared to the lockdown in China, the efforts of the US (and most Western countries) were tardy and half-hearted.

This is why I think the infection and death rates reported by China are entirely plausible. It may eventually turn out that they were lying about the figures, but at the moment there is no particular reason to assume that they are actually lying.


I think it is likely the numbers are not accurate but that does not mean they are complete bullshiat and off by orders of magnitude either which some people are claiming.  Smart people can analyse the figures and come up with data that is somewhat useful.
 
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