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2020-05-07 9:07:54 AM  
Not even their best, and Twitller is losing it. I can't wait for their Senate clowns series of ads coming soon.. This election season is gonna be so very fugly. Add in the "2nd wave" not so much actually second as just 1st wave finally starting to effect Covidiots directly, personally.. The MAGAt's all crying about just how unfair it all is and why didn't anyone warn us will be legend.
 
2020-05-07 9:13:42 AM  
Clinton's "3AM call" ad was off by 2 hours.  I say we haul her in front of the Senate and investigate.
 
2020-05-07 9:17:19 AM  
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2020-05-07 9:18:36 AM  
As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.
 
2020-05-07 9:28:19 AM  

Psychopusher: But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.


This is a terrible variation of the idiotic "if the libs weren't such condescending jerks we wouldn't have to be Nazis" argument and is complete nonsense.

Trump has set his own tone of lawlessness, self-dealing and graft. Implying anything else is lazy and stupid. Do better.
 
2020-05-07 9:43:12 AM  

Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.


The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.
 
2020-05-07 9:45:09 AM  
Let them fight.
 
2020-05-07 9:45:57 AM  

Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.


More underhanded than enlisting the help of a foreign government?
 
2020-05-07 9:46:32 AM  

Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.


If you're too stupid to see the difference between Evan McMullin and Donald Trump, that's on you.
 
2020-05-07 9:47:22 AM  

Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.


How will that be different from last time?
 
2020-05-07 9:48:15 AM  

max_rebo_groupie: Let them fight.


Came here to post this.

You can pick and choose your friends.

But sometimes you have to take the allies you can get.
 
2020-05-07 9:48:53 AM  
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2020-05-07 9:49:48 AM  

Carn: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

How will that be different from last time?


last time times eleventy.
 
2020-05-07 9:52:10 AM  

LL316: Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.

If you're too stupid to see the difference between Evan McMullin and Donald Trump, that's on you.


I understand the difference between those two people. However, people like Rick Wilson are still Rick Wilson.

They are the people who created the GOP propaganda and attack machine. And they created the conditions where winning was the only thing that could ever matter. Those conditions that gave rise to the current GOP and to Trump.

So, good for them trying to make amends a little bit, but they don't get made heros for trying to fix what they broke.
 
2020-05-07 9:52:12 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Psychopusher: But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

This is a terrible variation of the idiotic "if the libs weren't such condescending jerks we wouldn't have to be Nazis" argument and is complete nonsense.

Trump has set his own tone of lawlessness, self-dealing and graft. Implying anything else is lazy and stupid. Do better.


Be Best
 
2020-05-07 9:52:27 AM  

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Aw, they gave him a high-chair. That was sweet.
 
2020-05-07 9:54:13 AM  

Carn: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

How will that be different from last time?


This time he's got the power of the DOJ, FBI, IRS, and other government agencies behind him.
 
2020-05-07 9:55:29 AM  
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2020-05-07 9:58:30 AM  
Who is this ad attempting to convince? The people who already think Trump's beset on all sides by The Deep State elites (veterans of establishment Republican campaign powerhouses like Romney/Ryan), or the people who would already have crawled through 500 yards of shiat-smelling foulness filled with broken glass and Nickelback played at space-shuttle-takeoff-level volume to cast even a symbolic vote against Trump?

Or one of the 20 people in the country not in either of those groups?

// oh I know! it's the dedicated nonvoters! you know, the people convinced that Trump and Biden are "the same" (just like Clinton and Trump, just like Obama and Romney, just like Obama and McCain, just like Bush and Kerry, just like Bush and Gore, just like Dole and Clinton...)
 
2020-05-07 9:58:52 AM  

Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.


We end up like Venezuela and Trump refuses to step down

Except I'm not sure the Democrats would actually form a competing government or just keep whinning that Trump isn't following the rules.
 
2020-05-07 10:00:06 AM  
First time I ever heard the phrase "Morning in America" was American Horror Story season 9, because I'm a Millennial and the 1980s ended when I was 5. But, i feel the opening credits of season 9 are filled with images of Morning in America if you filter out the horror content.

Contrast the positive imagery of the opening with "Mourning in America and it really makes a point.
American Horror Story Season 9 Opening Credits (HD) AHS 1984
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2020-05-07 10:00:51 AM  
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2020-05-07 10:02:27 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Who is this ad attempting to convince? The people who already think Trump's beset on all sides by The Deep State elites (veterans of establishment Republican campaign powerhouses like Romney/Ryan), or the people who would already have crawled through 500 yards of shiat-smelling foulness filled with broken glass and Nickelback played at space-shuttle-takeoff-level volume to cast even a symbolic vote against Trump?


Whoever can be salvaged. It also served it's purpose of triggering Trump thus demonstrating the problem.

/It's all very meta.
 
2020-05-07 10:08:04 AM  

Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.


Difficulty: Probably a third of Trump's supporters turned out to vote for him precisely because he was such a loud buffoon. Trump was/is a populist.  He speaks in plain language (because he's dumb) and says all the terrible things out loud that his base has been thinking for years.  This latter point is why his base believes he is the only person in Washington with any guts. Replace Trump with some milquetoast drone like Pence and much of that evaporates.  Can you imagine anyone going to a Pence rally?
 
2020-05-07 10:10:34 AM  
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/ Lincoln needs to take a share of blame for dying before he could sell the barren Dixie Desert to Mexico
 
2020-05-07 10:12:44 AM  

Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.


So your argument is "because people are mean to Trump, he's going to try cling to power.  If only people were nicer, he'd just peacefully hand off to the next administration"?

Go victim-blame somewhere else.
 
2020-05-07 10:15:08 AM  

Persnickety: Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.

Difficulty: Probably a third of Trump's supporters turned out to vote for him precisely because he was such a loud buffoon. Trump was/is a populist.  He speaks in plain language (because he's dumb) and says all the terrible things out loud that his base has been thinking for years.  This latter point is why his base believes he is the only person in Washington with any guts. Replace Trump with some milquetoast drone like Pence and much of that evaporates.  Can you imagine anyone going to a Pence rally?


Before 2017, the idea of any potus holding "rallies" throughout his term would have been viewed very skeptically. Like, "doesn't this guy have work to do??". They would not have been taken seriously.
 
2020-05-07 10:17:13 AM  

Gubbo: LL316: Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.

If you're too stupid to see the difference between Evan McMullin and Donald Trump, that's on you.

I understand the difference between those two people. However, people like Rick Wilson are still Rick Wilson.

They are the people who created the GOP propaganda and attack machine. And they created the conditions where winning was the only thing that could ever matter. Those conditions that gave rise to the current GOP and to Trump.

So, good for them trying to make amends a little bit, but they don't get made heros for trying to fix what they broke.


No, they aren't heroes by any stretch of the imagination.

However, and it's unfortunate to say this, but they know how to attack right wingers better than any liberal could ever do. Democrats lack the killshot mentality to go about these things - R's are better at cutthroat style politics and know how to attack the id of Trump.
 
2020-05-07 10:17:36 AM  
Does the guy on the left have 400cc of Thorazine ready to go?

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2020-05-07 10:20:08 AM  
These Lincoln Project people might have to:
*gasp*
Dun-dun-dunnnn
Vote for a democrat!!

/the horror!
 
2020-05-07 10:20:52 AM  

Persnickety: Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.

Difficulty: Probably a third of Trump's supporters turned out to vote for him precisely because he was such a loud buffoon. Trump was/is a populist.  He speaks in plain language (because he's dumb) and says all the terrible things out loud that his base has been thinking for years.  This latter point is why his base believes he is the only person in Washington with any guts. Replace Trump with some milquetoast drone like Pence and much of that evaporates.  Can you imagine anyone going to a Pence rally?


I suspect Lincoln Project people know that. And I suspect it's a risk they are willing to take. Restoring sanity is their party would be difficult without jettisoning both d2s and his lunatic MAGAts.
 
2020-05-07 10:23:43 AM  

Snazzy1: These Lincoln Project people might have to:
*gasp*
Dun-dun-dunnnn
Vote for a democrat!!

/the horror!


It's ok.  I've been repeatedly assured that Biden is basically a Republican anyway.
 
2020-05-07 10:24:13 AM  

Halfabee64: Does the guy on the left have 400cc of Thorazine ready to go?

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2020-05-07 10:25:32 AM  
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2020-05-07 10:27:17 AM  
Remember the other day when he was complaining that he was being treated worse than Lincoln?

Maybe he got that idea in his head because someone warned him that the Lincoln Project was going to release an ad. I mean he must have known beforehand. So somehow Lincoln got stuck in his head, and he blurted it out even when it had nothing to do with anything.
 
2020-05-07 10:28:11 AM  

JAGChem82: Gubbo: LL316: Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.

If you're too stupid to see the difference between Evan McMullin and Donald Trump, that's on you.

I understand the difference between those two people. However, people like Rick Wilson are still Rick Wilson.

They are the people who created the GOP propaganda and attack machine. And they created the conditions where winning was the only thing that could ever matter. Those conditions that gave rise to the current GOP and to Trump.

So, good for them trying to make amends a little bit, but they don't get made heros for trying to fix what they broke.

No, they aren't heroes by any stretch of the imagination.

However, and it's unfortunate to say this, but they know how to attack right wingers better than any liberal could ever do. Democrats lack the killshot mentality to go about these things - R's are better at cutthroat style politics and know how to attack the id of Trump.


I think Democrats know how to do these ads. I think that Democrats don't want to do these ads because, right or wrong, Democrats get painted as being disrespectful and uncivil when they do these ads. And again, right or wrong, Democrats have to be for something rather than against something.

It's a double standard, but its the way of the world.

/And ok, Republicans are better at them, I accept that.
 
2020-05-07 10:28:52 AM  

Destructor: Dr Dreidel: Who is this ad attempting to convince? The people who already think Trump's beset on all sides by The Deep State elites (veterans of establishment Republican campaign powerhouses like Romney/Ryan), or the people who would already have crawled through 500 yards of shiat-smelling foulness filled with broken glass and Nickelback played at space-shuttle-takeoff-level volume to cast even a symbolic vote against Trump?

Whoever can be salvaged. It also served it's purpose of triggering Trump thus demonstrating the problem.

/It's all very meta.


If three solid years of his being publicly triggered by everything from a mean word from a nuke-armed tinpot dictator to a clothing store not selling his daughter's shiat - PLUS the decade or so of him being a teenager on Twitter: wading into the Pattinson-Stewart love debacle and calling beauty queens (and Rosie O'Donnell like 18,000 times) 'fat' - failed to enlighten those folks of Trump's micron-depth carapace?

And a POLITICAL AD will?

// I do not suppose that that rhetorical canine has fully internalized its predatory nature
 
2020-05-07 10:29:09 AM  

Snazzy1: These Lincoln Project people might have to:
*gasp*
Dun-dun-dunnnn
Vote for a democrat!!

/the horror!


Lets not get carried away here. They still have a small hope that maybe Pence can end up being the nominee somehow.
 
2020-05-07 10:29:29 AM  

abbarach: So your argument is "because people are mean to Trump, he's going to try cling to power. If only people were nicer, he'd just peacefully hand off to the next administration"?

Go victim-blame somewhere else.


That's not what I'm saying at all.  Like, at all at all.  I don't care if people are mean to him.  People should be mean to him.  He is deserving of all of the bile and virtiol everyone can muster -- hell, there isn't enough bile and vitriol on the planet to give him what he truly deserves.  All I am saying is, quite simply, that Trump, in his growing desperation and fear of losing, will be nastier and more underhanded than he's ever been, and that will make this probably the nastiest presidential campaign in living memory.  The transition of power from Trump to a democrat was never going to be peaceful or pretty, but the more Trump bungles and fumbles and says the quiet parts out loud only to have them come back and bite him on his girthy ass and threaten his re-election chances, the worst both the election, and the transition of power are going to be.  This is inescapable regardless of how people treat him.  It's just a matter of degrees.

That isn't me advocating that anyone should be nice to him, that's me simply pointing out the inevitability of what we're going to see more and more of as the election draws closer.  If anything, being nasty to Trump is only going to make that worse, which will in turn trigger him even more and cause him to go further off the rails, which will in turn (at least to some degree) hurt his re-election chances even more, because Trump just can't keep his ego or his rage in check even if he knows his failure to do so just makes it worse. Trump is incapable of getting out of his own way.

Be mean to him.  Be as downright nasty as you can. It is, if nothing else, cathartic, at least.
 
2020-05-07 10:30:52 AM  

i ignore u: Snazzy1: These Lincoln Project people might have to:
*gasp*
Dun-dun-dunnnn
Vote for a democrat!!

/the horror!

It's ok.  I've been repeatedly assured that Biden is basically a Republican anyway.


i know, right? Both sides are basically the same...might as well keep voting Republican!
 
2020-05-07 10:37:23 AM  

Gubbo: JAGChem82: Gubbo: LL316: Gubbo: Psychopusher: As much as I dislike the politics of the people behind The Lincoln Project, I applaud their ability to trigger Trump in such a direct and visceral way, and their dedication to making a singular point of doing so in the most public way -- on television during Trump's favourite State Media program, guaranteeing it'll be shoved right in his face.

But as Sno Man above pointed out, this is setting the tone for what will almost certainly be the ugliest, dirtiest election in living memory, and you know that Trump is going to pull out every imaginable stop to try and win, no matter how underhanded, shady, and outright illegal.  That's just how Trump do, especially when his fat orange ass is backed into a corner.

The people behind the Lincoln Project are directly responsible for creating the circumstances that allowed Trump to be elected. And they aren't even mildly embarrassed about it. They're just upset because they would prefer a more efficient and less buffoonish person do all the things that they wish Trump would do.

If you're too stupid to see the difference between Evan McMullin and Donald Trump, that's on you.

I understand the difference between those two people. However, people like Rick Wilson are still Rick Wilson.

They are the people who created the GOP propaganda and attack machine. And they created the conditions where winning was the only thing that could ever matter. Those conditions that gave rise to the current GOP and to Trump.

So, good for them trying to make amends a little bit, but they don't get made heros for trying to fix what they broke.

No, they aren't heroes by any stretch of the imagination.

However, and it's unfortunate to say this, but they know how to attack right wingers better than any liberal could ever do. Democrats lack the killshot mentality to go about these things - R's are better at cutthroat style politics and know how to attack the id of Trump.

I think Democrats know how to do these ads. I think that Democrats don't want to do these ads because, right or wrong, Democrats get painted as being disrespectful and uncivil when they do these ads. And again, right or wrong, Democrats have to be for something rather than against something.

It's a double standard, but its the way of the world.

/And ok, Republicans are better at them, I accept that.


Not only that, but it's kind of like when you're a teenager and you're arguing with your mom about something and your dad suddenly jumps in and starts taking your side.

If you're smart, you shut up and let him do his thing.
 
2020-05-07 10:37:41 AM  

Gubbo: Snazzy1: These Lincoln Project people might have to:
*gasp*
Dun-dun-dunnnn
Vote for a democrat!!

/the horror!

Lets not get carried away here. They still have a small hope that maybe Pence can end up being the nominee somehow.


Project Lincoln people sure...there's like what, 12 of them? All the Cheetolini cultists would be lost tho

/guide me, Landrew!!
 
2020-05-07 10:38:16 AM  

Dr Dreidel: And a POLITICAL AD will?


Well... maybe? The ad was not designed for liberal consumption, which is new-ish.

It is a political curiosity. I haven't seen anything remotely republican fighting back against Trump since Romney's feeble attempt during the impeachment.

So this is something for conservatives who haven't sipped the kool aide at the cult meetings yet. Evidently, they're enough to put together an ad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  And, lastly, it's not liberals who are spending money on this. So, in the grand scheme of things... it's a freebee
 
2020-05-07 10:42:03 AM  

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I remember Reagan's morning in America speech. During the devastating recession of 1982-84.

It wasn't true then either. The 1980s was the age of the douche. Everybody decided to shut off their brains, snort their coke and listen to nice flattering lies.
 
2020-05-07 10:45:43 AM  

Destructor: Dr Dreidel: Who is this ad attempting to convince? The people who already think Trump's beset on all sides by The Deep State elites (veterans of establishment Republican campaign powerhouses like Romney/Ryan), or the people who would already have crawled through 500 yards of shiat-smelling foulness filled with broken glass and Nickelback played at space-shuttle-takeoff-level volume to cast even a symbolic vote against Trump?

Whoever can be salvaged. It also served it's purpose of triggering Trump thus demonstrating the problem.

/It's all very meta.


This.

Not every Republican, or swing voter for that matter, who voted for Trump is a red cap-wearing MAGAt. To dismiss that voting bloc 'cuz they voted for Trump in 2016 so screw them since they got us into this mess in the first place and nothing matters anymore anyway is the best way to get four more years of Trump.
 
2020-05-07 10:55:42 AM  
The ad is aimed at my 70 year old father in OH.  He leans R, retired professional, and remembers the original ad.  Old people vote, and there are reasonable people who voted for the idiot and see the error of their ways.  This reinforces that and moves the needle in the middle.

It's about shaving 3-4% off the R votes in the swing states.

Supposedly they are going after the turtle and his cohorts next.
 
2020-05-07 11:00:47 AM  

hughesrep: The ad is aimed at my 70 year old father in OH.  He leans R, retired professional, and remembers the original ad.  Old people vote, and there are reasonable people who voted for the idiot and see the error of their ways.  This reinforces that and moves the needle in the middle.

It's about shaving 3-4% off the R votes in the swing states.

Supposedly they are going after the turtle and his cohorts next.


If my father were still alive, this ad would have been a huge punch to the gut to him as well.

Elections are won by small numbers. It took only a few small numbers in a few swing states to put Trump in power. It can take him out as well.
 
2020-05-07 11:01:19 AM  

finnished: Remember the other day when he was complaining that he was being treated worse than Lincoln?

Maybe he got that idea in his head because someone warned him that the Lincoln Project was going to release an ad. I mean he must have known beforehand. So somehow Lincoln got stuck in his head, and he blurted it out even when it had nothing to do with anything.


That is the most likely scenario. He hears a word or phrase and it just spools out of him randomly over the course of a few days.
 
2020-05-07 11:06:09 AM  

gunga galunga: Destructor: Dr Dreidel: Who is this ad attempting to convince? The people who already think Trump's beset on all sides by The Deep State elites (veterans of establishment Republican campaign powerhouses like Romney/Ryan), or the people who would already have crawled through 500 yards of shiat-smelling foulness filled with broken glass and Nickelback played at space-shuttle-takeoff-level volume to cast even a symbolic vote against Trump?

Whoever can be salvaged. It also served it's purpose of triggering Trump thus demonstrating the problem.

/It's all very meta.

This.

Not every Republican, or swing voter for that matter, who voted for Trump is a red cap-wearing MAGAt. To dismiss that voting bloc 'cuz they voted for Trump in 2016 so screw them since they got us into this mess in the first place and nothing matters anymore anyway is the best way to get four more years of Trump.


Fark that. People who don't wear the maga hats but voted for Trump? It's a difference without distinction. Nothing Trump has done or said as president is out of character with who Trump was as a private citizen or as a candidate.

You don't get credit from me for making a mistake. Fark their feelings.

Trump voters want a cookie and a participation trophy? Get out, campaign for democrats, and most importantly vote better this time.

These ads against Trump? Ok, where are the ads against McConnell? Where are the ads against appointing unqualified judges? Where are the ads against the regressive tax policy?

The arse in TFA speaks out against Trump but is still proud to serve in W Bush's administration. The difference is one of style, not substance.

To them the problem is Trump says the quiet part of loud. They have no problem with what he says, only the way he says it.
 
2020-05-07 11:07:46 AM  

hughesrep: The ad is aimed at my 70 year old father in OH.  He leans R, retired professional, and remembers the original ad.  Old people vote, and there are reasonable people who voted for the idiot and see the error of their ways.  This reinforces that and moves the needle in the middle.

It's about shaving 3-4% off the R votes in the swing states.

Supposedly they are going after the turtle and his cohorts next.


Pretty much THIS
 
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