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(Some Guy)   Those "giant asian murder hornets"? Yeah, about those   (ucanr.edu) divider line
    More: Followup, Honey bee, Insect, Beekeeping, Asian giant hornets, Wasp, Afrianizedhoney bees, researcher Lynn Kimsey, Vespa nests  
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2020-05-05 8:34:36 PM  

highli99: When will it be our turn to unleash one of our North American pests on Asia?   It seems a little one sided to me.   Which animal would we send?   I vote for horse flies or no see ums.


No see ums? Aw jeez, I've been calling them midges.
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2020-05-05 8:37:41 PM  

raygundan: CrazyCurt: Why YES the Tarantula are what they lay their eggs in and the grubs eat the host before hatching WHY DO YOU ASK!?

But yeah... we're all freaking out about two-inch hornets when there's already two-inch wasps native to the US.


Kind of apples and oranges.

Tarantula wasps go after... tarantulas.  They keep to themselves and don't usually sting unless you go out of your way to fark with them.

Suzume Bachi go after... anything.  They're hungry.  They *really* like honeybee hives and can wipe out an entire hive for lunch.

So, big problem #1: They massacre honeybee hives

Suzume Bachi also don't keep to themselves.  They'll go after you because you got in their way.  If they're feeling irritated or for any dang capricious whim.

Also, the tarantual wasp sting while painful doesn't do any damage.

Suzume Bachi sting can cause real damage.

So yeah, there's a bit of a difference between the two creatures.
 
2020-05-05 8:50:23 PM  

Spartapuss: Subtonic: But how do they taste?

Like popcorn, apparently.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/05/asian-mu​rder-hornets-are-also-a-beloved-snack-​in-japan/


Intriguing. Seems like these pests need to learn their proper place on the food chain.
 
2020-05-05 8:53:55 PM  
I think the author just hates honey bees
/ deep, deep down
// but with a vengeance
/// slashies
 
2020-05-05 9:06:32 PM  
Yea but, the Japanese bee's have a defense: smother them with heat from beating their wings.
Do ours? (no). That could be an issue.
 
2020-05-05 9:09:18 PM  
So the plan for 2021 : wipe out the bats and the asian hornets.
 
2020-05-05 9:12:51 PM  

Cultured: Nick Nostril: Swallowing one alive cures Coronavirus, right?

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2020-05-05 9:20:23 PM  

mrparks: The colony was found September of last year, and we're just panicking about it now?

We're bad at this.


Yes and no. Another colony found in November implies that they may have just gone dormant for winter and could return in spring.

No one is saying panic, they are saying to let local wildlife officials know if you see them because they're invasive.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british​-​columbia/2020/5/3/1_4922871.html
 
2020-05-05 9:32:56 PM  
What, you mean scientists didn't call them "murder hornets"?

I can't believe it, all the article I read said that's what scientists called them.

No wait, everything I read made it obvious it was a mostly tongue-in-cheek play on "Killer Bees"

And I read that they are here in the millions, taking over. No, wait, that's not true either. It was clear that they were only in small numbers in one state.

Most pointless followup article ever.
 
2020-05-05 9:39:27 PM  

Jake Havechek: raygundan: CrazyCurt: Why YES the Tarantula are what they lay their eggs in and the grubs eat the host before hatching WHY DO YOU ASK!?

Important clarification: they lay their eggs in the still-living-but-paralyzed tarantula.  And the grubs eat the still-living host, least-vital tissues first for maximum freshness.  Basically the critters from Aliens, except in two-inch-wasp form living in the American southwest.

The sting is apparently the second-most-painful on earth, but it's brief, with the worst over in about five minutes.  So painful it's disorienting and disabling and the recommendation is roughly "help them lay down on the ground and scream until it passes."

But yeah... we're all freaking out about two-inch hornets when there's already two-inch wasps native to the US.

Why don't you strip down to a banana hammock and get in a sealed room with a bunch of these angry buggers, tough guy.


I think you misunderstand me here. I'm not suggesting there's nothing to freak out about- I'm wondering why the hell we're just starting to now when we should have been running around and screaming about giant flying stinging things the whole time.
 
2020-05-05 9:44:23 PM  

chaotey: raygundan: CrazyCurt: Why YES the Tarantula are what they lay their eggs in and the grubs eat the host before hatching WHY DO YOU ASK!?

But yeah... we're all freaking out about two-inch hornets when there's already two-inch wasps native to the US.

Kind of apples and oranges.

Tarantula wasps go after... tarantulas.  They keep to themselves and don't usually sting unless you go out of your way to fark with them.

Suzume Bachi go after... anything.  They're hungry.  They *really* like honeybee hives and can wipe out an entire hive for lunch.

So, big problem #1: They massacre honeybee hives

Suzume Bachi also don't keep to themselves.  They'll go after you because you got in their way.  If they're feeling irritated or for any dang capricious whim.

Also, the tarantual wasp sting while painful doesn't do any damage.

Suzume Bachi sting can cause real damage.

So yeah, there's a bit of a difference between the two creatures.


Yeah, I'm much more worried about the part where they go after bees, which I mentioned earlier.

The sting is more dangerous, but this article at least suggests they leave humans alone about as much as the tarantula hawks do.  But I am surprised at the number of folks who seemed unaware we already had giant stinging things in the US.
 
2020-05-05 9:55:27 PM  
The Killer Bees: Home Invasion - SNL
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2020-05-05 10:16:43 PM  

Beerguy: [YouTube video: Asian murder hornet attacking mouse]

Whatever......here is a vid of one of these farkers killing a mouse in under a minute.


Sweet dreams, everyone!
 
2020-05-05 10:36:11 PM  

Beerguy: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/zoSrowxm​y5w]

Whatever......here is a vid of one of these farkers killing a mouse in under a minute.


That's not cheddar. That's just some common hornet.
 
2020-05-05 11:12:11 PM  

highli99: When will it be our turn to unleash one of our North American pests on Asia?   It seems a little one sided to me.   Which animal would we send?   I vote for horse flies or no see ums.


There are only 2 species from North America that I know of that have been transplanted to other parts of the world. One is the raccoon which is wreaking havoc in Europe.  The other is the Gray squirrel which is driving the brits mad.
 
2020-05-05 11:19:34 PM  
Wasps are assholes. I've been waging an annual war against them in my garden shed. They build, I kill. For a decade.
 
2020-05-05 11:36:47 PM  
I dunno. If the bees get wiped out right on their doorstep, then simply putting wire mesh over the hives that would still allow pollen laden drones access, but not humongous hornets should solve the problem. Or am I missing something?
 
2020-05-05 11:40:45 PM  

Clark W Griswald: I dunno. If the bees get wiped out right on their doorstep, then simply putting wire mesh over the hives that would still allow pollen laden drones access, but not humongous hornets should solve the problem. Or am I missing something?


Sounds like a good idea. I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't work.
 
2020-05-06 12:11:38 AM  

southernmanblog: While on a construction crew once we were eating lunch and watching a tarantula wasp stalking spiders. Tarantula wasps have an enormous stinger and a very painful sting but as solitary wasps they would much rather leave you alone. Well, one of the guys insisted on messing with it and messing with it and messing with it... stung him right through his work glove and he cried like a baby for half an hour.


I'm pretty impressed - only a half hour - guy was pretty good at walking it off apparently!

/not so impressed at his cognitive skills
 
2020-05-06 12:24:07 AM  

fanbladesaresharp: Percise1: I think this is exactly why the .410 shotgun was invented...

That, or a can of Wd-40 and a lighter. Never seen a wasp that was a badass without wings, and those torch instantly.


BunkyBrewman: Afrianized?

You know... urban.

Being that I have shot at a hornets nest with a .410 in my younger years, I can assure you its effectiveness is limited. And they fly faster than you can run.


LOL
I wasn't thinking so much of shooting the hive, more the individual hornets, sort of like skeet. At that size, you have to be able to hear and see them coming.

Still, my first choice would be fire. Lots and lots of fire...
 
2020-05-06 12:32:45 AM  

Clark W Griswald: I dunno. If the bees get wiped out right on their doorstep, then simply putting wire mesh over the hives that would still allow pollen laden drones access, but not humongous hornets should solve the problem. Or am I missing something?


It will keep the Hornets out but the bees will still come crawling out to challenge them.
 
2020-05-06 12:36:01 AM  

BolloxReader: Clark W Griswald: I dunno. If the bees get wiped out right on their doorstep, then simply putting wire mesh over the hives that would still allow pollen laden drones access, but not humongous hornets should solve the problem. Or am I missing something?

It will keep the Hornets out but the bees will still come crawling out to challenge them.


I guess if you made it big enough, maybe keeping the hive 2-3' away from the cage the hornets may not trigger the defensive instincts.

I'll betcha the hornets still sit there though and pick off the bees one by one as they leave for foraging.
 
2020-05-06 12:39:08 AM  

BolloxReader: BolloxReader: Clark W Griswald: I dunno. If the bees get wiped out right on their doorstep, then simply putting wire mesh over the hives that would still allow pollen laden drones access, but not humongous hornets should solve the problem. Or am I missing something?

It will keep the Hornets out but the bees will still come crawling out to challenge them.

I guess if you made it big enough, maybe keeping the hive 2-3' away from the cage the hornets may not trigger the defensive instincts.

I'll betcha the hornets still sit there though and pick off the bees one by one as they leave for foraging.


Well as I understand it, the hornets are not there to eat the bees. They just kill the adult bees so they can get to the larvae.

And you may be right. The bees may still come out one at a time at each being killed by the hornets until there are no adult bees left. One may think, "well that means the larvae are saved and the hive is OK."  But without adult bees to feed the larvae, the hive would still perish.
 
2020-05-06 12:44:39 AM  

BolloxReader: BolloxReader: Clark W Griswald: I dunno. If the bees get wiped out right on their doorstep, then simply putting wire mesh over the hives that would still allow pollen laden drones access, but not humongous hornets should solve the problem. Or am I missing something?

It will keep the Hornets out but the bees will still come crawling out to challenge them.

I guess if you made it big enough, maybe keeping the hive 2-3' away from the cage the hornets may not trigger the defensive instincts.

I'll betcha the hornets still sit there though and pick off the bees one by one as they leave for foraging.


Well, dammit, we gotta force the bees to shelter in place. Report them to the Bee Police if they venture out of their hive. It's for their own good.
 
2020-05-06 3:45:49 AM  
Fine, so they're nothing much to worry about, especially way down here in the U.S. Southeast, where we got fire ants that hurt so bad you'll cuss your mama.

I suppose next thing those scientists will tell us, the corner-virus isn't THAT much of a thing, either.
 
2020-05-06 5:46:27 AM  

Nick Nostril: Swallowing one alive cures Coronavirus, right?


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2020-05-06 6:21:19 AM  
Hey! Let us have our fun!
We love panic. It's the only thing that makes us feel alive anymore.
 
2020-05-06 8:18:38 AM  

NathanAllen: Wasps are assholes. I've been waging an annual war against them in my garden shed. They build, I kill. For a decade.


Wasps generally are fairly docile and beneficial critters.  Now hornets, they are often more aggressive and I have a little more fear of them.  But trump is really what scares the billybejesus out of me.
 
2020-05-06 2:46:07 PM  

dennysgod: "It's ridiculous to call them murder hornets," says noted UC Davis wasp expert and researcher Lynn Kimsey, director of the Bohart Museum of Entomology and professor of entomology, UC Davis Department of Entomology and Nematology.
"It's no more likely to sting and kill a human than a honey bee,"


You would think an "expert" would know they got the name "murder hornets" because they would raid bee hives and rip off the heads of the bees and bring the bodies back to feed their young.


They also set up 5G towers to spread Coronavirus.
 
2020-05-06 2:48:46 PM  
Bahahahaha....Cobra Chickens!!
 
2020-05-06 4:36:58 PM  

MBooda: BolloxReader: BolloxReader: Clark W Griswald: I dunno. If the bees get wiped out right on their doorstep, then simply putting wire mesh over the hives that would still allow pollen laden drones access, but not humongous hornets should solve the problem. Or am I missing something?

It will keep the Hornets out but the bees will still come crawling out to challenge them.

I guess if you made it big enough, maybe keeping the hive 2-3' away from the cage the hornets may not trigger the defensive instincts.

I'll betcha the hornets still sit there though and pick off the bees one by one as they leave for foraging.

Well, dammit, we gotta force the bees to shelter in place. Report them to the Bee Police if they venture out of their hive. It's for their own good.


But who's going to sew the little tiny masks??

/wait...
 
2020-05-06 4:40:07 PM  

Porkbelly: Wasps generally are fairly docile and beneficial critters.


Negative, Ghost Rider. The only reason a wasp doesn't kill you is because it can't. But it wants to, REALLY really badly. They literally thirst for your blood.

+1 to NathanAllen on this one.

/rather face a charging bull in a barn than be locked in a 12x12 room with a wasp
//they hate me - feeling is mutual
///stung in the eyelid. then the OTHER eyelid a few years later - leave them alone and they'll leave you alone my @$$
 
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