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2020-05-05 6:48:38 PM  
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This is what happens when all of the English majors are snapped up by Starbucks.
 
2020-05-05 6:50:13 PM  
"It's ridiculous to call them murder hornets," says noted UC Davis wasp expert and researcher Lynn Kimsey

Deadly giant hornets kill 42 people in China

"It's no more likely to sting and kill a human than a honey bee," said Kimsey

Vespa mandarinia workers often fly 1 to 2 km from their nest, but can travel up to 8 km. Thus, they will not hesitate on chasing a victim several kilometres if necessary.
 
2020-05-05 6:51:40 PM  
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2020-05-05 6:52:26 PM  
I think this is exactly why the .410 shotgun was invented...

That, or a can of Wd-40 and a lighter. Never seen a wasp that was a badass without wings, and those torch instantly.


BunkyBrewman: Afrianized?


You know... urban.
 
2020-05-05 6:54:25 PM  

sleze: In the documentary I saw on them, they were called "Cracker Jackers"

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Jesus Christ, those are Fallout cazadores
 
2020-05-05 6:57:02 PM  

WordsnCollision: Mike_LowELL: Entomologists call them Asian giant hornets or Vespa mandarinia.

Social media?

Murder hornets.

Could we just go back to calling them Asian giant hornets or AGH or Vespa mandarina?

Please?

Another article I read referred to them as "Yak-Killer Hornets".


I prefer to name them after the country which I have never actually visited and exists to me as a thing that I see on maps, but of which I somehow believe to be responsible for my life's failings and the deep-rooted insecurities that come with it.

This is why we need to wipe out the Estonian Hornet, along with the Estonian Crocodile and the Estonian African Elephant.  Wipe that whole goddamn country off the map.  Estonia's never done anything good for anyone.
 
2020-05-05 6:57:33 PM  
Uh.
Vespa ain't hornets
 
2020-05-05 6:57:36 PM  
But they look so cuddly
 
2020-05-05 6:59:47 PM  

sleze: In the documentary I saw on them, they were called "Cracker Jackers"

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Something something prize in a box?!!
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2020-05-05 7:01:29 PM  

Mike_LowELL: WordsnCollision: Mike_LowELL: Entomologists call them Asian giant hornets or Vespa mandarinia.

Social media?

Murder hornets.

Could we just go back to calling them Asian giant hornets or AGH or Vespa mandarina?

Please?

Another article I read referred to them as "Yak-Killer Hornets".

I prefer to name them after the country which I have never actually visited and exists to me as a thing that I see on maps, but of which I somehow believe to be responsible for my life's failings and the deep-rooted insecurities that come with it.

This is why we need to wipe out the Estonian Hornet, along with the Estonian Crocodile and the Estonian African Elephant.  Wipe that whole goddamn country off the map.  Estonia's never done anything good for anyone.


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2020-05-05 7:03:29 PM  
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2020-05-05 7:05:58 PM  
BunkyBrewman: successful and attractive Afrian-Amerianized?

FTFY
 
2020-05-05 7:06:37 PM  
While on a construction crew once we were eating lunch and watching a tarantula wasp stalking spiders. Tarantula wasps have an enormous stinger and a very painful sting but as solitary wasps they would much rather leave you alone. Well, one of the guys insisted on messing with it and messing with it and messing with it... stung him right through his work glove and he cried like a baby for half an hour.
 
2020-05-05 7:07:18 PM  

Robinfro: Stoney disagrees


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2020-05-05 7:08:12 PM  

Beerguy: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/zoSrowxm​y5w?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

Whatever......here is a vid of one of these farkers killing a mouse in under a minute.


Looks like the mouse is still alive at the end of that.
 
2020-05-05 7:08:38 PM  

maxandgrinch: FarkingChas: I do not like how she poo-poos the Africanized bees problem. They have killed or hurt a lot of people and animals.


A Yahooglebing search yields one human death in 2010, in the US and a handful of dogs since then.

Have any legitimate sources of the claim of "killed or hurt a lot of people and animals?" Wikipedia is not a source of legit info.


Well the articles I remember reading predate my online life. There was quite a lot written up in the '90s.

If you don't trust Wikipedia, who do you trust? An AP wire article? Something from Newsweek? I don't recall reading about them in Time or National Geographic back in the day. CNN talked about them.

Haven't heard much about them in years. Ants stole the spotlight. Fire ants became the new invasive species to write about.
 
2020-05-05 7:09:18 PM  

sleze: In the documentary I saw on them, they were called "Cracker Jackers"

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2020-05-05 7:10:20 PM  

Beerguy: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/zoSrowxm​y5w?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

Whatever......here is a vid of one of these farkers killing a mouse in under a minute.


When the colony gets big and hungry, they'll take on anything.

So, this lady... okay.  Calling them "Murder Hornets" is a bit much I agree, but they're no joke.

1) They're extremely ornery, aggressive and territorial.   They're not "more likely" to sting than a honey bee, they're ill-tempered malevolent bastards.  More than yellowjackets.  More like roid raging yellowjackets.
2) They'll wipe out whole colonies of honey bees.  For lunch.  It's not even a contest. More of a curb-stomp
3) They're really big and sound like B52 bombers going by.  You won't forget that sound.
4) They've got a 1/4 inch stinger that's going to pass through most of your clothes
5) That stinger packs a neurotoxin that hurts and also as per people I've known who have been stung can give limb weakness for about a week.  It wouldn't take more than a few of them to give you a really bad day.  Or a last day.
6) They're voracious hunters.  They can hunt in packs.  They'll take on anything they think they can cut up and cart back to the hive.
 
2020-05-05 7:17:19 PM  
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2020-05-05 7:19:38 PM  

Beerguy: [YouTube video: Asian murder hornet attacking mouse]

Whatever......here is a vid of one of these farkers killing a mouse in under a minute.


I thought it was going to be a wildlife documentary but then it made a beeline (heh) to the cameraman and I realized it was found footage.
 
2020-05-05 7:21:17 PM  

NephilimNexus: "It's ridiculous to call them murder hornets," says noted UC Davis wasp expert and researcher Lynn Kimsey

Deadly giant hornets kill 42 people in China

"It's no more likely to sting and kill a human than a honey bee," said Kimsey

Vespa mandarinia workers often fly 1 to 2 km from their nest, but can travel up to 8 km. Thus, they will not hesitate on chasing a victim several kilometres if necessary.


But can they eradicate yellow jackets? There can be only one highlander death wasp here.
 
2020-05-05 7:23:10 PM  

SixOfDLoC: Porkbelly: And if you want to fear something fear "red velvet ants" a/k/a cow killers:

https://www.pestworld.org/pest-guide/s​tinging-insects/velvet-ants-cow-killer​s/

Hey, we have those right here in Kentucky.  Giant hornets, too - though I don't think they've gotten much of a foothold anywhere else, they've been in the valley here since the 50s.


They're in warmer areas of Northern Cal. Too. I see them occasionally(1 or 2 a year) out in the hills for as long as I can remember.
 
2020-05-05 7:24:54 PM  

sleze: In the documentary I saw on them, they were called "Cracker Jackers"

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When you're really good
they call you Cracker Jack
 
2020-05-05 7:25:41 PM  

dennysgod: "It's ridiculous to call them murder hornets," says noted UC Davis wasp expert and researcher Lynn Kimsey, director of the Bohart Museum of Entomology and professor of entomology, UC Davis Department of Entomology and Nematology.
"It's no more likely to sting and kill a human than a honey bee,"


You would think an "expert" would know they got the name "murder hornets" because they would raid bee hives and rip off the heads of the bees and bring the bodies back to feed their young.


She's an errand girl sent by the Murder Hornets, a puppet of a parasite wasp
 
2020-05-05 7:27:27 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Afrianized?


Italianized?
 
2020-05-05 7:29:57 PM  
Interesting ...

On a side note I was thinking of a way a troublemaker once annoyed the hell out of an entire dormitory. He got a bunch of us to chip in and buy a vial of cockroach pheromones. He proceeded to open the cap and roll it under the large space under the door of the room for the dorm's biggest asshat Nazi resident assistant ( and for the record he was at least a WW2 Germanphile and was proud of his paraphernalia ). It didn't take long but the roaches began a march. Thousands. Tens of thousands. Hundreds of thousands probably. By the night asshat's room was a foot deep at spots of writing roach mass. Whole floor was closed so the maintenance folks ( poor bastards, sorry about that ) could shovel the bugs into bag after bag after bag. Nothing like full garbage bags containing a writing mass of insects.

Considering the enemies we have no and how far more Nazi they are I've been intrigued by this 'prank' again. But where do I get such pheromones? Who would know and what facility might have them?

U.C.Davis. That's just down the street ( practically ). And I have a name.

/ Enjoy the yellowjackets at the next Maga convention.
 
2020-05-05 7:34:52 PM  

sleze: In the documentary I saw on them, they were called "Cracker Jackers"

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Please tell me that scientist a 4 month old child?
 
2020-05-05 7:38:20 PM  
I wonder if the Asian hornets are being harassed by the American Hornets?
 
2020-05-05 7:44:13 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: SixOfDLoC: Porkbelly: And if you want to fear something fear "red velvet ants" a/k/a cow killers:

https://www.pestworld.org/pest-guide/s​tinging-insects/velvet-ants-cow-killer​s/

Hey, we have those right here in Kentucky.  Giant hornets, too - though I don't think they've gotten much of a foothold anywhere else, they've been in the valley here since the 50s.

They're in warmer areas of Northern Cal. Too. I see them occasionally(1 or 2 a year) out in the hills for as long as I can remember.


And if you step on one, if it can it will loudly complain first rather than waste a sting.
 
2020-05-05 7:44:29 PM  
This article misses the whole point. Murder hornets aren't a threat to people per se. The possibility that they can decimate bee colonies, which are already teetering as it is, is the reason why people should be freaking out.
 
2020-05-05 7:45:22 PM  

CrazyCurt: Interesting ...

On a side note I was thinking of a way a troublemaker once annoyed the hell out of an entire dormitory. He got a bunch of us to chip in and buy a vial of cockroach pheromones. He proceeded to open the cap and roll it under the large space under the door of the room for the dorm's biggest asshat Nazi resident assistant ( and for the record he was at least a WW2 Germanphile and was proud of his paraphernalia ). It didn't take long but the roaches began a march. Thousands. Tens of thousands. Hundreds of thousands probably. By the night asshat's room was a foot deep at spots of writing roach mass. Whole floor was closed so the maintenance folks ( poor bastards, sorry about that ) could shovel the bugs into bag after bag after bag. Nothing like full garbage bags containing a writing mass of insects.

Considering the enemies we have no and how far more Nazi they are I've been intrigued by this 'prank' again. But where do I get such pheromones? Who would know and what facility might have them?

U.C.Davis. That's just down the street ( practically ). And I have a name.

/ Enjoy the yellowjackets at the next Maga convention.


What kind of dorm did you live in that could attract 10000 roaches in a single room in less than 24 hours.
 
2020-05-05 7:50:09 PM  
Like all bees, I give them a good leavin' alone.
 
2020-05-05 7:52:21 PM  

TwilightZone: Okay, I'm in the San Fernando Valley in Southern California and I'm certain I saw one of these in my garden last year-- late spring I think.  I'd never seen anything like it so I did some research.  Kind of creepy.  Haven't seen anything like it since.


You have Tarantula Hawks which are bigger. However they're iridescent purple-black and sleek like a space ship. I heard and then saw just one of those and noped off to Nopeville.

/ Very unlikely to attack or bother people though and even somewhat docile ... unless you're a tarantula.
// Why YES the Tarantula are what they lay their eggs in and the grubs eat the host before hatching WHY DO YOU ASK!?
/// FARK WASPS for the 3
 
2020-05-05 7:54:48 PM  

Diocletian's Last Cabbage: CrazyCurt: Interesting ...

On a side note I was thinking of a way a troublemaker once annoyed the hell out of an entire dormitory. He got a bunch of us to chip in and buy a vial of cockroach pheromones. He proceeded to open the cap and roll it under the large space under the door of the room for the dorm's biggest asshat Nazi resident assistant ( and for the record he was at least a WW2 Germanphile and was proud of his paraphernalia ). It didn't take long but the roaches began a march. Thousands. Tens of thousands. Hundreds of thousands probably. By the night asshat's room was a foot deep at spots of writing roach mass. Whole floor was closed so the maintenance folks ( poor bastards, sorry about that ) could shovel the bugs into bag after bag after bag. Nothing like full garbage bags containing a writing mass of insects.

Considering the enemies we have no and how far more Nazi they are I've been intrigued by this 'prank' again. But where do I get such pheromones? Who would know and what facility might have them?

U.C.Davis. That's just down the street ( practically ). And I have a name.

/ Enjoy the yellowjackets at the next Maga convention.

What kind of dorm did you live in that could attract 10000 roaches in a single room in less than 24 hours.


Stockton, California. Not the finest city at the time.

/ Even though it was a private college! With 100+ year old buildings on site. And the usual Ivy League corruption and neglect. So it was perfect.
 
2020-05-05 7:55:30 PM  
As an invasive species that could be a threat to pollinators, they're a worry if they manage to get established.  As an "oh god it's gonna eat me," not so much, since there's so few at this point.  Especially since we've already got native stuff that size in the US-- like the Tarantula Hawk, a wasp about the size of this asian hornet that paralyzes tarantulas, carries them home, and then recreates the xenomorph lifecycle from aliens by laying its eggs in the living tarantula and letting them eat their way out.
 
2020-05-05 7:55:36 PM  

Percise1: I think this is exactly why the .410 shotgun was invented...

That, or a can of Wd-40 and a lighter. Never seen a wasp that was a badass without wings, and those torch instantly.


BunkyBrewman: Afrianized?

You know... urban.


Being that I have shot at a hornets nest with a .410 in my younger years, I can assure you its effectiveness is limited. And they fly faster than you can run.
 
2020-05-05 7:58:40 PM  
Jumping underwater doesn't work with most species of hornets, either.  They will wait up to an hour for you to come out.
 
2020-05-05 7:59:06 PM  

hundreddollarman: This article misses the whole point. Murder hornets aren't a threat to people per se. The possibility that they can decimate bee colonies, which are already teetering as it is, is the reason why people should be freaking out.


Which makes me think some Maga-Q-Dingbat may have orchestrated the release. They want to destroy America so they can rebuild it in Trump/God's image. White male landowners can vote and only white male landowners. They just won't have any bees or crops on their land. They really don't think things through to the end.

/ "But we can grow weed, right?'
// Hmm actually cannabis pollinates by wind for the most part and hemp COULD be made into synthetic foodstuffs ...
 
2020-05-05 8:00:10 PM  

CrazyCurt: Why YES the Tarantula are what they lay their eggs in and the grubs eat the host before hatching WHY DO YOU ASK!?


Important clarification: they lay their eggs in the still-living-but-paralyzed tarantula.  And the grubs eat the still-living host, least-vital tissues first for maximum freshness.  Basically the critters from Aliens, except in two-inch-wasp form living in the American southwest.

The sting is apparently the second-most-painful on earth, but it's brief, with the worst over in about five minutes.  So painful it's disorienting and disabling and the recommendation is roughly "help them lay down on the ground and scream until it passes."

But yeah... we're all freaking out about two-inch hornets when there's already two-inch wasps native to the US.
 
2020-05-05 8:05:06 PM  

raygundan: CrazyCurt: Why YES the Tarantula are what they lay their eggs in and the grubs eat the host before hatching WHY DO YOU ASK!?

Important clarification: they lay their eggs in the still-living-but-paralyzed tarantula.  And the grubs eat the still-living host, least-vital tissues first for maximum freshness.  Basically the critters from Aliens, except in two-inch-wasp form living in the American southwest.

The sting is apparently the second-most-painful on earth, but it's brief, with the worst over in about five minutes.  So painful it's disorienting and disabling and the recommendation is roughly "help them lay down on the ground and scream until it passes."

But yeah... we're all freaking out about two-inch hornets when there's already two-inch wasps native to the US.


Why don't you strip down to a banana hammock and get in a sealed room with a bunch of these angry buggers, tough guy.
 
2020-05-05 8:06:51 PM  
My concern over these insects was regarding their potential as yet another invasive species.   In which case they pose a serious risk to our ecology.   A very real concern that this expert does not address.  From what I gather from the article, it is still unknown if this species is getting a foothold in North America.

You would be a bit hysterical to assume that these insects were deadly to humans. Few insects the world actually are deadly to humans.  However, I would not want to come across one of these, because they look very painful.
 
2020-05-05 8:11:48 PM  
"It's ridiculous to call them murder hornets," says noted UC Davis wasp expert and researcher Lynn Kimsey,"

I would agree, generally when these hornets kill you it is going to be a crime of passion, which is why I prefer the term "Manslaughter Hornets"
 
2020-05-05 8:16:24 PM  
The imported yellow jackets are bad enough. Through two years of a plague of them (mild winters) I was happy to host a huge hornet's nest under the eaves of an upstairs window, and watch them through it carrying a steady stream of yellow jackets in to feed their young. The hornets never were aggressive and my yard and neighbors' you could have picnics in without the "meat bees" joining in.
 
2020-05-05 8:19:52 PM  

CrazyCurt: TwilightZone: Okay, I'm in the San Fernando Valley in Southern California and I'm certain I saw one of these in my garden last year-- late spring I think.  I'd never seen anything like it so I did some research.  Kind of creepy.  Haven't seen anything like it since.

You have Tarantula Hawks which are bigger. However they're iridescent purple-black and sleek like a space ship. I heard and then saw just one of those and noped off to Nopeville.

/ Very unlikely to attack or bother people though and even somewhat docile ... unless you're a tarantula.
// Why YES the Tarantula are what they lay their eggs in and the grubs eat the host before hatching WHY DO YOU ASK!?
/// FARK WASPS for the 3


So I looked at pics of Tarantula Hawks.  Never seen one of those.

As I recall it was on a poppy when I saw it -- or maybe a sunflower.  I'm used to seeing bees in the poppies and there are wasps of various sorts all around.  I'm no bug identification expert, but when I see something new I check it out.  The asian hornet is really big (compared to the other wasps and bees I'm used to seeing) and dangerous looking.  Ir wasn't moving, so I got a really good look at it. (I wonder if the bees I see in the poppies are honeybees)  It was mostly creepy because I knew it had to be some invasive species and that rarely bodes well for the natives.
 
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2020-05-05 8:23:18 PM  
I'd call in the EDF anyway, just to be safe.
 
2020-05-05 8:23:59 PM  
But how do they taste?
 
2020-05-05 8:25:26 PM  

SwiftFox: The imported yellow jackets are bad enough. Through two years of a plague of them (mild winters) I was happy to host a huge hornet's nest under the eaves of an upstairs window, and watch them through it carrying a steady stream of yellow jackets in to feed their young. The hornets never were aggressive and my yard and neighbors' you could have picnics in without the "meat bees" joining in.


I had an air force of paper wasps last time I had a tomato patch. Unnerving at first, because they really give no farks at all about personal space, but all they ever did was eat the shiat out of these little green caterpillar bastards.
 
2020-05-05 8:28:07 PM  
I couldn't read the article with the anacondas, pythons, fire ants, and carp laughing so damn loud.
 
2020-05-05 8:29:20 PM  
When will it be our turn to unleash one of our North American pests on Asia?   It seems a little one sided to me.   Which animal would we send?   I vote for horse flies or no see ums.
 
2020-05-05 8:31:29 PM  
 
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