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(Sauce, Sir)   Japan to draw up streetlight encounter protocols after U.S. Defense Department releases videos   (nippon.com) divider line
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2020-05-04 10:41:23 AM  
The ministry will consider procedures to respond to, record and report encounters, but the unknown nature of such objects may confuse Self-Defense Forces pilots, including those of F-15 fighter jets.

Well of course.  They are mainly trained to look for silhouettes of various kaiju.
 
2020-05-04 1:22:23 PM  
They should call it "duck, duck, goose"
 
2020-05-04 1:23:25 PM  
It's pretty much the retired fighter pilots that want to talk about this stuff. If you ever reported an encounter while on active duty, you'd better have verifiable evidence and witnesses.... and even then, you'd best have a damned good poker face.

...discuss.
 
2020-05-04 1:26:35 PM  
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Fire service manual.
 
2020-05-04 1:26:51 PM  
Our mighty military jet fighters will shoot them out of the sky small national self defense force will humbly request assistance from glorious American military occupiers guests.

Dammit, Hideo! You left the document change tracking on!
 
2020-05-04 1:28:56 PM  

lectos: They should call it "duck, duck, goose"


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2020-05-04 1:30:07 PM  
Think friendly, non sexual thoughts, if you encounter space aliens.

If your brain screams loudly, they will shut you up and it isn't fun. L
 
2020-05-04 1:30:14 PM  

special20: It's pretty much the retired fighter pilots that want to talk about this stuff. If you ever reported an encounter while on active duty, you'd better have verifiable evidence and witnesses.... and even then, you'd best have a damned good poker face.

...discuss.


The one pilot from the Nimitz encounters was on the Joe Rogan podcast.   The pilot made an interesting point that one of the other younger pilots reaction was to be Very Pissed off at the command team.  Issue being, the command team knew the objects were there, but, DIDN'T tell the pilots before they went on patrol.    Which raises the age old question: how much is ACTUALLY known, and by who?
 
2020-05-04 1:32:10 PM  
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Pictured: initial training session
 
2020-05-04 1:32:20 PM  
 
2020-05-04 1:34:36 PM  
Found one.

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2020-05-04 1:44:36 PM  

WithinReason: This guy has a PHD in Thermal dynamics, and spends his free time explaining why all these miracle discoveries or amazing inventions are BS.


Let me know when he debunks the multiple on scene eyewitnesses.
 
2020-05-04 1:56:15 PM  
Do the protocols involve impossibly large, impossibly fast VTOL vehicles that look like humanoid robots?  Preferably piloted by teenagers plucked off the street after they found one in a field, instead of rigorously trained military personnel.
 
2020-05-04 2:00:01 PM  
Is this the blow everything in space up plan or the space princesses harem plan?
 
2020-05-04 2:00:58 PM  
So if I needed information on streetlights, does this mean that the Japanese are now the official streetlight people-ohhhhhh-whoaaaaaaa-ohhhhhhh?
 
2020-05-04 2:11:15 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Think friendly, non sexual thoughts, if you encounter space aliens.

If your brain screams loudly, they will shut you up and it isn't fun. L


what if they are sexy though?
 
2020-05-04 2:12:43 PM  
this streetlight meme has got to die. it's not a farking joke. they are real, they are here.

i personally think they were always here, they are from here, and they messed with human dna as an experiment. very likely trans dimensional in nature. the earth is pretty old, and we many not be it's first residents to have achieved sentience.
 
2020-05-04 2:14:24 PM  

GRCooper: WithinReason: This guy has a PHD in Thermal dynamics, and spends his free time explaining why all these miracle discoveries or amazing inventions are BS.

Let me know when he debunks the multiple on scene eyewitnesses.


Okay now you are an eyewitness.  YOU tell me what's going on here:

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2020-05-04 2:30:48 PM  

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Pictured: initial training session


They don't need to train anyone in that case.  Just send Max after all of the aliens....except for *that* one.
 
2020-05-04 2:35:50 PM  

GRCooper: WithinReason: This guy has a PHD in Thermal dynamics, and spends his free time explaining why all these miracle discoveries or amazing inventions are BS.

Let me know when he debunks the multiple on scene eyewitnesses.


Yes, because pilots on government sanctioned uppers to keep them awake for long flights have perfect memories.
 
2020-05-04 2:38:20 PM  
UFOs? Nope. Try Chinese made. Where better to test than around Japan?
 
2020-05-04 2:43:28 PM  

WithinReason: GRCooper: WithinReason: This guy has a PHD in Thermal dynamics, and spends his free time explaining why all these miracle discoveries or amazing inventions are BS.

Let me know when he debunks the multiple on scene eyewitnesses.

Yes, because pilots on government sanctioned uppers to keep them awake for long flights have perfect memories.


Bluewater ops IF you double cycle an F18 it's up for like an hour and a half or so?
 
2020-05-04 2:43:29 PM  

WithinReason: GRCooper: WithinReason: This guy has a PHD in Thermal dynamics, and spends his free time explaining why all these miracle discoveries or amazing inventions are BS.

Let me know when he debunks the multiple on scene eyewitnesses.

Yes, because pilots on government sanctioned uppers to keep them awake for long flights have perfect memories.


All three incidents were short training flights.  One of the coast of San Diego, and two off of Virginia.

Not saying it's aliens, but try again.
 
2020-05-04 3:09:30 PM  
Let's take a look at the display to see what information we can glean.

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1)  The object is 46 degrees to the left of the F18's nose
2)  The object is 27 degrees below the F18 (which is in a slight right hand turn as indicated by horizontal bar in the middle of the display, so maybe 26 or 25 degrees below).
3)  The range is 4.2 nautical miles 

As noted in the lower right, the hornet is at 25000 feet.

From that, we should be able to determine the exact height of the thing, since we have the lengths of two sides of the triangle and the angle between those two sides.  So, the hornet is at 25000 feet, with the angle of 25 degrees between that altitude (side 1) and the range to the object (side 2) of 4.2nm , which also works out to around 25000 feet, then side three (the altitude of the object) should be right around 11,000 feet, correct?

Later when the hornet turns in a left bank of about 10 degrees to get closer, the object is 35 degrees below it and with the same hornet altitude and a range of 3.3nm, the object height still comes out to around 11,000 feet, so it's maintaining the same altitude.

The speed we should be able to work out from:

4) the hornet is at .61 mach, which at 25000 feet works out to around 422mph, which is 366 knots
5) the vc (closure) rate of the hornet to the object is 200 knots.

This is where we'll need a math talking guy. If they're closing head-on, we take the difference, right?  366-200 means that the object is moving at 166 knots. How does the angle offset (46 degrees left) effect that?

Later (as above at a range of 3.3nm), the hornet is still going mach 0.6 at 25k, and with an angle off nose of 58 degrees the closure rate is now 150.  Has the object changed speed or is that the effect of the increased angle offset?
 
2020-05-04 3:22:38 PM  
UFOs exist: flying objects that we can't identify.  It doesn't mean that such objects are aliens.  Or that they're really objects at all; a lot of them are probably atmospheric phenomena.

It's too bad that there are so many people who believe that the government is hiding aliens.
 
2020-05-04 4:02:36 PM  

Myria: UFOs exist: flying objects that we can't identify.  It doesn't mean that such objects are aliens.  Or that they're really objects at all; a lot of them are probably atmospheric phenomena.

It's too bad that there are so many people who believe that the government is hiding aliens.


That's a good point, but the term UFO has grown to primarily have connotations of alien origin.  I think that's why the Pentagon very specifically referred to the three recent videos they declassified as unidentified aerial phenomena
 
2020-05-04 5:41:40 PM  

genner: Is this the blow everything in space up plan or the space princesses harem plan?


Yes.
 
2020-05-04 7:52:20 PM  

GRCooper: This is where we'll need a math talking guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC​2​YiYHs

/spoiler: it's a bird.
 
2020-05-04 8:26:22 PM  

PenguinTheRed: GRCooper: This is where we'll need a math talking guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2​YiYHs

/spoiler: it's a bird.


It was posted upthread. His cutsie snark and Picard facepalms don't explain away the pilots who got within gun range of the object, describe it as 40 feet long and lacking any birdlike appendages.

Saying "See, birds also look like white smudges on IR so therefore it's a bird" doesn't make him right, however many Marvel movie clips he includes.
 
2020-05-04 9:01:33 PM  

GRCooper: PenguinTheRed: GRCooper: This is where we'll need a math talking guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2​YiYHs

/spoiler: it's a bird.

It was posted upthread. His cutsie snark and Picard facepalms don't explain away the pilots who got within gun range of the object, describe it as 40 feet long and lacking any birdlike appendages.

Saying "See, birds also look like white smudges on IR so therefore it's a bird" doesn't make him right, however many Marvel movie clips he includes.


just to be clear, I wasn't attacking you - just him.

Yesterday's thread has my opinions on the subject.
 
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