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2020-05-02 2:27:37 PM  
Yeah, she's not helping women who have legitimate claims.
 
2020-05-02 2:32:24 PM  
She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.
 
2020-05-02 2:34:32 PM  
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2020-05-02 2:37:11 PM  

cretinbob: Yeah, she's not helping women who have legitimate claims.


She has lost all credibility on anything that she says - that's my opinion.
Story changes; additions to it, deletions, like she's writing an essay.
 
2020-05-02 2:37:18 PM  
Has this part of the story changed? It seemed to me that there was a claim that a report existed that proved that she had made the allegations back 20+ years ago. The report couldn't be found so some people claimed bullshiat. Although shiat from 20+ years being lost or misfiled is not surprise. Not keeping a copy herself seemed more suspicious than an office not having it. Now, the report exists but it doesn't prove she made the allegations because it was never intended to do that, because she didn't actually report him for harassment. Why even bring the report up if it wasn't gonna prove a damn thing even if it existed? This all seems very legit.
 
2020-05-02 2:41:27 PM  

ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.


And yet she doesn't have a copy of this report?   She kept her paperwork for her time as a senate aide, but she didn't keep the very important report that would explain her "demotion" on her CV?
 
2020-05-02 2:47:38 PM  
Trying to put together a timeline here. The Biden assault didn't happen before her love affair with Vladimir Putin didn't happen? I think that's right.
 
2020-05-02 2:51:40 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

And yet she doesn't have a copy of this report?   She kept her paperwork for her time as a senate aide, but she didn't keep the very important report that would explain her "demotion" on her CV?


iirc, ginandbacon has already been clear s/he loathes Biden.
I can't find the thread where the comment appeared but gin was already posting about Biden's trial.

Sorry, gin - I appreciate your honesty about your feelings re: Biden and that it translates, immediately, into his being guilty but feelings aren't facts.

If Ms Reade is determined to get her story out, then she should do so in full and under oath and not, for example, via an interview on Fox News.

Biden can't prove a negative and she's doing a pretty fair job of botching her version of events.
 
2020-05-02 3:01:29 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

And yet she doesn't have a copy of this report?   She kept her paperwork for her time as a senate aide, but she didn't keep the very important report that would explain her "demotion" on her CV?


What is your source that she kept her paperwork from her time as a Senate aide?

And why would you keep a copy of a report you filed with HR? 

I've never kept any paperwork from any job. It's either irrelevant on they have it on file.
 
2020-05-02 3:04:18 PM  

parasol: his being guilty


I never said Biden was guilty, just that it wouldn't shock me. Be as honest as I have been, please. No need to misrepresent my position.
 
2020-05-02 3:09:28 PM  
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2020-05-02 3:10:31 PM  

ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

And yet she doesn't have a copy of this report?   She kept her paperwork for her time as a senate aide, but she didn't keep the very important report that would explain her "demotion" on her CV?

What is your source that she kept her paperwork from her time as a Senate aide?

And why would you keep a copy of a report you filed with HR? 

I've never kept any paperwork from any job. It's either irrelevant on they have it on file.


You should keep a copy.   If the HR department "misplaces", deletes or otherwise can't/won't cough it up said report, YOU do have a copy.   Same for any documentation you might need.   And if I it is a phone call, I get their name, the time and date I talked to them, the discussion, etc.   This has, in my personal and business life has come into play more than once, including a suit being dropped because I had the paperwork (from years prior) showing that the person bringing the suit was full of shiat.

Though, if I were to buy your view, then whichever HR would be responsible for this allegedly filed complaint will certainly find it.   I'm sure you'll trust them when they say, "Yeah, no...no complaint filed".
 
2020-05-02 3:15:59 PM  
Tara: Biden sexually assaulted me and I filed a report. Biden: Senate, find the report and release it. Tara: I didn't file the sexually assaulted part

Enough. This farce is over.
 
2020-05-02 3:17:37 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

And yet she doesn't have a copy of this report?   She kept her paperwork for her time as a senate aide, but she didn't keep the very important report that would explain her "demotion" on her CV?

What is your source that she kept her paperwork from her time as a Senate aide?

And why would you keep a copy of a report you filed with HR? 

I've never kept any paperwork from any job. It's either irrelevant on they have it on file.

You should keep a copy.   If the HR department "misplaces", deletes or otherwise can't/won't cough it up said report, YOU do have a copy.   Same for any documentation you might need.   And if I it is a phone call, I get their name, the time and date I talked to them, the discussion, etc.   This has, in my personal and business life has come into play more than once, including a suit being dropped because I had the paperwork (from years prior) showing that the person bringing the suit was full of shiat.

Though, if I were to buy your view, then whichever HR would be responsible for this allegedly filed complaint will certainly find it.   I'm sure you'll trust them when they say, "Yeah, no...no complaint filed".


Again, what is your source that she kept her other paperwork from her time as a Senate aide?
 
2020-05-02 3:25:31 PM  

ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.


Actually, and by her own account, she was not "demoted". After she complained to her supervisors, it was suggested she should look for another job and she also gave varying reasons for her departure.

And while not reporting an assualt is not uncommon, waiting until Bernie Sanders concedes is.
 
2020-05-02 3:28:26 PM  

ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

And yet she doesn't have a copy of this report?   She kept her paperwork for her time as a senate aide, but she didn't keep the very important report that would explain her "demotion" on her CV?

What is your source that she kept her paperwork from her time as a Senate aide?

And why would you keep a copy of a report you filed with HR? 

I've never kept any paperwork from any job. It's either irrelevant on they have it on file.

You should keep a copy.   If the HR department "misplaces", deletes or otherwise can't/won't cough it up said report, YOU do have a copy.   Same for any documentation you might need.   And if I it is a phone call, I get their name, the time and date I talked to them, the discussion, etc.   This has, in my personal and business life has come into play more than once, including a suit being dropped because I had the paperwork (from years prior) showing that the person bringing the suit was full of shiat.

Though, if I were to buy your view, then whichever HR would be responsible for this allegedly filed complaint will certainly find it.   I'm sure you'll trust them when they say, "Yeah, no...no complaint filed".

Again, what is your source that she kept her other paperwork from her time as a Senate aide?


Honestly, I do not remember at this point.   Though, if she has been putting it on whatever resume/CV she has....she has kept some records to know when she worked where.   She says she worked as a Senate aide, an aide for a California State Senator (though I have not been able to find the Senator's name anywhere) and for a judge's campaign or something like that.   So I certainly hope she has kept documents from all those political jobs.   Because that's what professional people do.   It's what file cabinets are for (or even fire-proof safes, like ours for our very, very important documents, like my husband's DD 214 from 1974, which I actually had to pull out in the past few months).
 
2020-05-02 3:33:52 PM  

PreMortem: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

Actually, and by her own account, she was not "demoted". After she complained to her supervisors, it was suggested she should look for another job and she also gave varying reasons for her departure.

And while not reporting an assualt is not uncommon, waiting until Bernie Sanders concedes is.


By her account, she was transferred from a managerial position where she oversaw interns to a job with fewer responsibilities and prestige. What do you call that?
 
2020-05-02 3:34:51 PM  
Lol her story fell apart so fast, but expect more of this bullshiat. Weekly. None of it needs to be true, that isn't the point.
 
2020-05-02 3:37:31 PM  

ginandbacon: parasol: his being guilty

I never said Biden was guilty, just that it wouldn't shock me. Be as honest as I have been, please. No need to misrepresent my position.


My apologies - the post I recalled led me to assume you felt he was guilty. Might have been your confidence there was trial already in the works.

I understand, in this medium, if a person doesn't post the exact words "I think he's guilty" it voids all the other words that lead a reader to draw that inference.

totally my bad

Making a note your position is "Not saying guilty, but it wouldn't be a surprise"
 
2020-05-02 3:40:09 PM  
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2020-05-02 3:40:38 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: if she has been putting it on whatever resume/CV she has....she has kept some records to know when she worked where.


I literally have zero paperwork to document where I worked, when, and what my responsibilities were. I update my resume as needed and can remember what I did, for whom, and when. Prospective employers can contact my references to verify anything if they want to. Most of that is online anyway.
 
2020-05-02 3:43:03 PM  
parasol:

S'all good.
 
2020-05-02 3:48:11 PM  

ginandbacon: PreMortem: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

Actually, and by her own account, she was not "demoted". After she complained to her supervisors, it was suggested she should look for another job and she also gave varying reasons for her departure.

And while not reporting an assualt is not uncommon, waiting until Bernie Sanders concedes is.

By her account, she was transferred from a managerial position where she oversaw interns to a job with fewer responsibilities and prestige. What do you call that?


Corporate calls that a lateral move, assuming the same salary.

Also reason to file a complaint, if so inclined.
 
2020-05-02 3:48:21 PM  

ginandbacon: PreMortem: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

Actually, and by her own account, she was not "demoted". After she complained to her supervisors, it was suggested she should look for another job and she also gave varying reasons for her departure.

And while not reporting an assualt is not uncommon, waiting until Bernie Sanders concedes is.

By her account, she was transferred from a managerial position where she oversaw interns to a job with fewer responsibilities and prestige. What do you call that?


Okay...so she worked for Biden for how long?   So far I only see 1993.   She would have been, what?, About 21.  (My math may be off, but as she is now 48 and it was 27 years ago. 21 or so, maybe 22 depending on when she worked there, but1971 is the stated year of birth I can find****).   Yeah, in the Senate staff hierarchy, a 21 year old gets a managerial position while Biden's long time staffers are...what?    Seriously.

****Looking on Wikipedia, according to the Katie Halper interview, it says she was 29 at the time, which doesn't make sense if she is 48/49 now).  But that is Wikipedia, so there you go.
 
2020-05-02 3:48:49 PM  

ginandbacon: parasol:

S'all good.


:)
 
2020-05-02 3:49:43 PM  

ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: if she has been putting it on whatever resume/CV she has....she has kept some records to know when she worked where.

I literally have zero paperwork to document where I worked, when, and what my responsibilities were. I update my resume as needed and can remember what I did, for whom, and when. Prospective employers can contact my references to verify anything if they want to. Most of that is online anyway.


So when the Senate archivists say "Yeah, no complaint filed", you'll be totally on board.  :)
 
2020-05-02 3:49:50 PM  
I'm going to wait to pass judgement until Comey brings this up again in October.
 
2020-05-02 3:54:39 PM  

thorpe: Trying to put together a timeline here. The Biden assault didn't happen before her love affair with Vladimir Putin didn't happen? I think that's right.


Is that the same person who posted this?

Someone who has the hots for a creep who weaponizes refugees is not my idea of credible.
So how about it Snopes? FactCheck.org?
 
2020-05-02 3:55:25 PM  
We only have a few more accusers to go before we reach the arbitrarily-decided number of accusations needed to automatically declare him guilty.
 
2020-05-02 3:56:18 PM  
The AP has also spoken to two additional people, who spoke on condition of anonymity to protect their families' privacy, who said Reade had told them about aspects of her allegations against Biden years ago.

One friend, who knew Reade in 1993, said Reade told them about the alleged assault when it happened. The second friend met Reade more than a decade after the alleged incident and confirmed that Reade had a conversation with the friend in 2007 or 2008 about experiencing sexual harassment from Biden while working in his Senate office.
 
2020-05-02 3:56:46 PM  

ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: if she has been putting it on whatever resume/CV she has....she has kept some records to know when she worked where.

I literally have zero paperwork to document where I worked, when, and what my responsibilities were. I update my resume as needed and can remember what I did, for whom, and when. Prospective employers can contact my references to verify anything if they want to. Most of that is online anyway.


As a labor attorney, I would always always recommend that you keep a copy of anything you file, as well as a copy of each performance review you receive.

One of the early outlets to report stated that Reade provided her senate employment file, but not a copy of the complaint

Right now it seems like her story has changed there. She said it wouldn't mention an assault previously

Now she is saying it won't mention harassment either
 
2020-05-02 3:57:36 PM  
I'm 110% certain that the man who was "arrested with Nelson Mandela" would never lie about his own potential transgressions.
 
2020-05-02 3:57:39 PM  
i'm glad someone posted a trump vs biden scoreboard. really captures the depths of depravity
 
2020-05-02 3:58:13 PM  

ginandbacon: PreMortem: ginandbacon: She reported that he acted inappropriately and that she was demoted when she brought it up to her superiors. 

Not reporting an assault is not unusual in the circumstances. 

Although Subby sure is giving it his best.

Actually, and by her own account, she was not "demoted". After she complained to her supervisors, it was suggested she should look for another job and she also gave varying reasons for her departure.

And while not reporting an assualt is not uncommon, waiting until Bernie Sanders concedes is.

By her account, she was transferred from a managerial position where she oversaw interns to a job with fewer responsibilities and prestige. What do you call that?


I call that not according to my citation:
Reade was one of those women, saying that at least three times, Biden put his hands on her shoulders and the base of her neck. She also said she was asked to serve drinks at a reception and overheard a colleague suggest it was because she was pretty and Biden liked her legs. She told The Post she complained to supervisors and was asked to look for another job. In an interview with The Post at the time, she does not mention sexual assault, and she gives varying reasons for her departure from his office at other times.
 
2020-05-02 4:00:01 PM  

Sasquatchuan: ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: if she has been putting it on whatever resume/CV she has....she has kept some records to know when she worked where.

I literally have zero paperwork to document where I worked, when, and what my responsibilities were. I update my resume as needed and can remember what I did, for whom, and when. Prospective employers can contact my references to verify anything if they want to. Most of that is online anyway.

As a labor attorney, I would always always recommend that you keep a copy of anything you file, as well as a copy of each performance review you receive.

One of the early outlets to report stated that Reade provided her senate employment file, but not a copy of the complaint

Right now it seems like her story has changed there. She said it wouldn't mention an assault previously

Now she is saying it won't mention harassment either


Wait, now she's saying that the AP is lying about her statement to them.

This is a nightmare for survivors. Her credibility is just bad and she's live tweeting contradictions.

https://twitter.com/ReadeAlexandra/st​a​tus/1256672559396864001?s=20
 
2020-05-02 4:00:09 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: ginandbacon: Dewey Fidalgo: if she has been putting it on whatever resume/CV she has....she has kept some records to know when she worked where.

I literally have zero paperwork to document where I worked, when, and what my responsibilities were. I update my resume as needed and can remember what I did, for whom, and when. Prospective employers can contact my references to verify anything if they want to. Most of that is online anyway.

So when the Senate archivists say "Yeah, no complaint filed", you'll be totally on board.  :)


Had I ever felt the need to file a complaint for retaliation with the Senate Committee on Ethics, I would have retained counsel. I have never worked in an environment that openly hostile to women. Thank goodness.
 
2020-05-02 4:00:33 PM  
Coming from my profession  (Pharmaceutical development)  this is what we say!


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2020-05-02 4:00:59 PM  
Jackie from the Rolling Stone article now has more to back her up than Tara does.
 
2020-05-02 4:01:15 PM  
Biden is a creeper, and I'd not be surprised if he got handsy with someone in a bad way...

But this ain't it.
 
2020-05-02 4:01:19 PM  
The accusation against Joe Biden should be taken seriously and investigated as thoroughly as the evidence demands.

And the 23 accusations against President Trump should be given the same scrutiny
 
2020-05-02 4:01:23 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: Lol her story fell apart so fast, but expect more of this bullshiat. Weekly. None of it needs to be true, that isn't the point.


Expect more of this type of BS to come up as trumpys poll numbers slip more and more.
 
2020-05-02 4:01:26 PM  
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2020-05-02 4:01:58 PM  
She's changed her story a dozen times, making it progressively worse as Bernie's chances slipped away, and writes erotic fiction about Vladimir Putin in her spare time.

This is a baseless hit job, clear as day. Its either a Smolletesque attempt at self-promotion and/or Republican ratfarkery, their capacity for which should never be underestimated.
 
2020-05-02 4:02:08 PM  
Look I think Biden is a crappy politician, he's not my cup of tea, but this allegation is such a blatantly obvious crock of shiat to muddy the waters before the election it just comes across as pathetic to me. The trumpers are so desperate to find any plausible reason for people to vote for the bloated sack of shiat that this is what they are running with. Obviously they can't run on Trump's record in office so the best they can do is allege with no credibility that Biden might have done something trump brags about doing.

It's sad
 
2020-05-02 4:02:15 PM  
Biden sends out talking points to lie about New York Times about this

The liar has already been shown.
Here is a randomly searched video of Stacy Abrams lying as instructed by the Biden campaign about Biden's assault.

Stacey Abrams Recites Biden's LEAKED Tara Reade Talking Points
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If you are going to condemn someone for lying maybe it should be the one that was caught doing it.
 
2020-05-02 4:03:06 PM  

ginandbacon: And why would you keep a copy of a report you filed with HR? 

I've never kept any paperwork from any job. It's either irrelevant on they have it on file.


I still have copies of complaints I filed with my direct supervisor for jobs I no longer work.

Also stuff that was sent to me giving me kudos.

But maybe I'm weird that way.
 
2020-05-02 4:03:07 PM  
Hmm, maybe there are some checks with Trump signatures on them? DJTJ signature? The Trumpnuts would be all, "that just proves there's wrongdoing because Jr is an upstanding smart citizen!"
 
2020-05-02 4:03:26 PM  
 
2020-05-02 4:03:49 PM  
Meh, who knows with the woman. I did find a Daily Fail article that says she is 56.

There is no consistency with her.
 
2020-05-02 4:04:22 PM  
Biden gave an interview the other day where he admitted it.

First he gave a total, strong denial. OK, fine, he said it never happened.

Then, as a complaint, he says "You know, I don't know why all of a sudden 27 years 'this' gets raised."

What is "THIS?" INTERESTING THERE IS A "THIS" HE REMEMBERS.
 
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