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2020-05-02 4:14:22 AM  
Do your duty as a citizen and drink up.
 
2020-05-02 4:15:47 AM  
One thing I hope for with the oil market tanking is the stopping of making ethanol from corn.
 
2020-05-02 6:52:06 AM  
Subby thinks we eat that kind of corn?

I don't get it either. Farmers in Illinois are still planting corn this year instead of switching to soybeans.  The corn is more expensive to plant but but soybeans will not earn enough to satisfy the banks who essentially own the farmers.
 
2020-05-02 7:40:07 AM  
I look at corn as cattle feed slightly edible for humans.

But it goes well with non-preferred meat parts.
 
2020-05-02 7:41:07 AM  

Nocrash: Subby thinks we eat that kind of corn?

I don't get it either. Farmers in Illinois are still planting corn this year instead of switching to soybeans.  The corn is more expensive to plant but but soybeans will not earn enough to satisfy the banks who essentially own the farmers.


Who's going to buy the soy?  We ruined that last year with China.
 
2020-05-02 7:54:52 AM  
The stuff works. It smells awful though. My company hit this up immediately. Each store has a few gallons of 80% ethyl alcohol liquid hand sanitizer. I give them credit, they saw a need and filled it. And quickly too.
 
2020-05-02 8:15:09 AM  

enry: Nocrash: Subby thinks we eat that kind of corn?

I don't get it either. Farmers in Illinois are still planting corn this year instead of switching to soybeans.  The corn is more expensive to plant but but soybeans will not earn enough to satisfy the banks who essentially own the farmers.

Who's going to buy the soy?  We ruined that last year with China.


Thanks Obama

/I know, I know
 
2020-05-02 8:21:47 AM  
"One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?
 
2020-05-02 8:31:47 AM  

PreMortem: I look at corn as cattle feed slightly edible for humans.


You must be British.

Cornbread: 18th Century Breads, Part 3. S2E14
Youtube tVuWJ54CjpE
 
2020-05-02 8:45:08 AM  
If Iowa wasn't first in the nation, ethanol wouldn't be a thing
 
2020-05-02 8:53:48 AM  
On April 15, the US Food and Drug Administration, in an updated guidance for alcohol production from ethanol, pointed to a specific issue: It may be toxic.

If it's toxic to me, then it's toxic to bacteria and viruses right?  Mix some Hydroxychloroquine in there and ship that sh*t out.
 
2020-05-02 8:56:35 AM  

scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?


No where in this article is any mention of actual lab results showing these industrial stills are magically adding gasoline to alcohol, just "concerns" from Purell's parent company and the FDA... hmmm.
 
2020-05-02 9:02:29 AM  
Heard about this, part of me is like "don't eat it you dummies", other part is, "this is for your hands, which you eat with, so probably not very good.")

Pretty much 1/3 of the price of corn (what makes it still profitable in the quantities we produce) is Ethanol.  Yea, this is gonna hurt a ton.  We're probably not even planting it next year (this year, all the fertilizer and shiat is already on and paid for, so, YOLO).  (that kind of corn does go food grade, think chips, tortillas, corn meal (sugar too) type applications (ours goes that way every so often, dependent on how clean we pick it usually, sometimes they'll tell you at the elevator)
 
2020-05-02 9:48:19 AM  

scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?


Actually, the ethanol producers usually add gasoline to the ethanol to keep the locals from stealing and drinking it.  It's usually the step after the 100% pure ethanol is made.
 
2020-05-02 10:08:10 AM  

OrionXVI: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

Actually, the ethanol producers usually add gasoline to the ethanol to keep the locals from stealing and drinking it.  It's usually the step after the 100% pure ethanol is made.


THIS is why we come to Fark. I find no where else you can quickly get expert user feedback on news stories. It's among the chaff of course, but I challenge anyone to name another site. That covers all topics, the site owner allows different opinions and doesn't allow unrestricted shiat slinging. I've tried many.  Liters ding this site for what they don't like, but where to go that is better, faster.  This farking thread is more informative on this story than you will hear for the next 12 hours (its life cycle) from conventional media. Thanks Drew  Curtis.
 
2020-05-02 10:35:29 AM  
>"The FDA is moving the goalposts again and their actions this time could shut off a key source of alcohol for hand sanitizer production, significantly exacerbating the worldwide shortage of hand sanitizer," said Geoff Cooper, CEO of the Renewable Fuels Association.
Cooper said customers who have already used ethanol-based hand sanitizer have not raised any concerns.
So its the responsibility of consumers to detect and object to dangerous impurities? Pure Libertarianisam?
 
2020-05-02 10:38:11 AM  
>"The FDA is moving the goalposts again and their actions this time could shut off a key source of alcohol for hand sanitizer production, significantly exacerbating the worldwide shortage of hand sanitizer," said Geoff Cooper, CEO of the Renewable Fuels Association.
Cooper said customers who have already used ethanol-based hand sanitizer have not raised any concerns.


So its the responsibility of consumers to detect and object to dangerous impurities? Pure Libertarianisam?
 
2020-05-02 10:47:47 AM  

OrionXVI: Actually, the ethanol producers usually add gasoline to the ethanol to keep the locals from stealing and drinking it.  It's usually the step after the 100% pure ethanol is made.


Yep. Denaturing (adding a toxic substance to make alcohol unfit for drinking) is how produces ensure they aren't taxed for distilling vodka, whisky, neutral grain spirits, etc.
 
2020-05-02 10:49:21 AM  
Ethanol in gasoline is a sham. It's literally energy negative and burning money for a single cause: moving taxpayer dollars out to Iowa and other areas.

The environment would literally have less carbon if we stopped ethanol in gasoline tomorrow.

I farking hate it.
 
2020-05-02 11:02:35 AM  

OrionXVI: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

Actually, the ethanol producers usually add gasoline to the ethanol to keep the locals from stealing and drinking it.  It's usually the step after the 100% pure ethanol is made.


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2020-05-02 11:14:31 AM  

Esc7: Ethanol in gasoline is a sham. It's literally energy negative and burning money for a single cause: moving taxpayer dollars out to Iowa and other areas.

The environment would literally have less carbon if we stopped ethanol in gasoline tomorrow.

I farking hate it.


Well, I for one am more on like it, to love it.

I prefer running my car on the E85 gas.  Why?  Between 104 to 107 octane opposed to 87 or 88 octane, means better performance from my car, and it helps with my gas lines not freezing in the winter time as the Ethanol removes any water from the fuel system and burns it off, and it has a lower freezing temp than regular Unleaded, which when the temp goes below zero out is a good thing.

Downside is harder to find, but my preferred gas stations near my house all have it, so its not a big problem for me.  Also, you lose up to 6 MPG due to the ethanol having less energy when it burns/explodes, and therefor get less miles per tank, but this also varies depending on the actual ethanol content, which could be between 51% and 85%.  So, literally, your mileage may vary.  And under normal circumstances, you can pay anywhere between $.12 and $.80 less per gallon.  Right now, E85 and regular unleaded are the same price, so its a wash.

So, does the improved performance make the less mileage worth it?  For me, and my lead foot?  Yes.  For my Dad who originally bought my vehicle before he went on to that great highway in the sky?  Yes.  For my wife and Mom who dont give a hoot about performance and acceleration, No.  Again, your mileage may vary.
 
2020-05-02 11:27:04 AM  
I know it is fashionable for "car guys" to mostly hate ethanol in their gas, but what does that have to do with hand sanitizer?  And how exactly does eating corn give us more hand sanitizer?

/ I actually dislike hand sanitizer.
// Stores here have been out of hand sanitizer for over a month
/// Mmmmmmmm, cornbread!
 
2020-05-02 11:36:53 AM  

ChiliBoots: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

No where in this article is any mention of actual lab results showing these industrial stills are magically adding gasoline to alcohol, just "concerns" from Purell's parent company and the FDA... hmmm.


Ethanol in water can only be distilled to about 95% purity. One way to get rid of that last bit of water is to mix in another volatile chemical like benzene or cyclohexane. A three-component vapor boils away, leaving liquid ethanol without any water. A later step then separates the water and recycles the other stuff.

Some traces of that extra chemical will be present in the final ethanol product. That's not a concern for motor fuels but it's not something you would want to drink. I don't know if there's enough of anything to be an actual concern when rubbing it on your hands.
 
2020-05-02 11:38:24 AM  
My Trumper cousin-in-law runs an Iowa ethanol plants. He all but calls the whole thing a hoax.

They've been shipping tanker trucks of alcohol to Florida lately.
 
2020-05-02 11:41:22 AM  

Ivo Shandor: ChiliBoots: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

No where in this article is any mention of actual lab results showing these industrial stills are magically adding gasoline to alcohol, just "concerns" from Purell's parent company and the FDA... hmmm.

Ethanol in water can only be distilled to about 95% purity. One way to get rid of that last bit of water is to mix in another volatile chemical like benzene or cyclohexane. A three-component vapor boils away, leaving liquid ethanol without any water. A later step then separates the water and recycles the other stuff.

Some traces of that extra chemical will be present in the final ethanol product. That's not a concern for motor fuels but it's not something you would want to drink. I don't know if there's enough of anything to be an actual concern when rubbing it on your hands.


There's no need to break the azeotrope for ethanol going for use as hand sanitizer, it's going to be diluted to 70% or so anyway. I suppose it may pick traces from storage vessels that previously held motor grade ethanol, but that would flush out over time.
 
2020-05-02 11:52:44 AM  

ChiliBoots: Ivo Shandor: ChiliBoots: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

No where in this article is any mention of actual lab results showing these industrial stills are magically adding gasoline to alcohol, just "concerns" from Purell's parent company and the FDA... hmmm.

Ethanol in water can only be distilled to about 95% purity. One way to get rid of that last bit of water is to mix in another volatile chemical like benzene or cyclohexane. A three-component vapor boils away, leaving liquid ethanol without any water. A later step then separates the water and recycles the other stuff.

Some traces of that extra chemical will be present in the final ethanol product. That's not a concern for motor fuels but it's not something you would want to drink. I don't know if there's enough of anything to be an actual concern when rubbing it on your hands.

There's no need to break the azeotrope for ethanol going for use as hand sanitizer, it's going to be diluted to 70% or so anyway. I suppose it may pick traces from storage vessels that previously held motor grade ethanol, but that would flush out over time.


A plant which is set up to produce fuel ethanol doesn't necessarily have a convenient way of bypassing the later stages to fill a tanker truck with the 95%-ethanol intermediate product, before the other stuff is added.
 
2020-05-02 11:53:52 AM  
Don't discount the Bing Bug
Classic Hank Kimball
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2020-05-02 1:01:35 PM  

Ivo Shandor: ChiliBoots: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

No where in this article is any mention of actual lab results showing these industrial stills are magically adding gasoline to alcohol, just "concerns" from Purell's parent company and the FDA... hmmm.

Ethanol in water can only be distilled to about 95% purity. One way to get rid of that last bit of water is to mix in another volatile chemical like benzene or cyclohexane. A three-component vapor boils away, leaving liquid ethanol without any water. A later step then separates the water and recycles the other stuff.

Some traces of that extra chemical will be present in the final ethanol product. That's not a concern for motor fuels but it's not something you would want to drink. I don't know if there's enough of anything to be an actual concern when rubbing it on your hands.


Being an ex-mechanic I'm familiar with the difference between "wet" and "dry" ethanol.

Can't use "wet" ethanol for gasoline blending because the water drops out of the mixture and causes all kinds of driveability issues.
 
2020-05-02 2:13:21 PM  

Warmachine999: I prefer running my car on the E85 gas.  Why?  Between 104 to 107 octane opposed to 87 or 88 octane, means better performance from my car, and it helps with my gas lines not freezing in the winter time as the Ethanol removes any water from the fuel system and burns it off, and it has a lower freezing temp than regular Unleaded, which when the temp goes below zero out is a good thing.


You don't own a car that runs any better or more efficient when using E85. Sadly, no one does.

Regular (non-turbocharged) engines get no benefit from ethanol because none of them have a high enough compression ratio to take advantage of the higher octane. They are all designed to run on 87 octane.

Modern turbocharged engines benefit from premium 91-93 octane fuel. A co-worker of mine owns a Chevy Cruze that I convinced him to start using premium, and the power benefits became obvious (especially in summer). The car struggled before because Chevy used an engine detuned to run on 87 octane, and using 91 octane really woke it up. He can now take the car out on the hottest summer day, floor it, and it will pull clean to 100mph like it is nothing difficult.

None of the turbocharged engine manufacturers have made their engines E85 compatible. Ford doesn't make a single EcoBoost engine that can use E85. GM doesn't make any turbocharged EcoTec engines that can use E85. It's sad, because those are engines that could crank up boost to make more power when using E85 and not a single one of them is compatible.

As for the antifreeze properties, you can get that with any E10 blend sold in lots of places. That, and the freeze point of gasoline is irrelevant. There is literally nowhere on the face of the Earth where the freeze point of petroleum gasoline is a factor. I drive a diesel Chevy Cruze, so I have to worry in winter about fuel gelling, but no one with a gasoline car has this issue.
 
2020-05-02 2:17:18 PM  

Warmachine999: And under normal circumstances, you can pay anywhere between $.12 and $.80 less per gallon.  Right now, E85 and regular unleaded are the same price, so its a wash.


E85 gets some tax benefits that come into play when gasoline prices are high. During high oil price periods it is common around me to see E85 selling for about 75¢ cheaper per gallon that regular unleaded. At that price point it makes sense to fill a flex-fuel vehicle with E85, because the much cheaper fuel price is tolerable for the lower fuel economy.

Once those fuel costs start getting closer to parity, it's cheaper to fill with regular gasoline because the higher fuel economy balances it out.

I had a Hyundai Accent that would tolerate E30 (the check engine light would illuminate when using E50), and it only lost about 2-3% fuel economy. The engine was 11:1 compression ratio, so I suspect it was pulling timing when using 87 octane unleaded. I never tried using 91-93 octane unleaded, and now that I think about it I wish I had compared that to try it out. Anyway, the extra octane of E30 likely offset the lower energy content of the fuel and the fuel economy was very close - but the cost-per-gallon of E30 was about 15% lower, so it was a better cost benefit to use that fuel.
 
2020-05-02 2:19:24 PM  

Ivo Shandor: A plant which is set up to produce fuel ethanol doesn't necessarily have a convenient way of bypassing the later stages to fill a tanker truck with the 95%-ethanol intermediate product, before the other stuff is added.


There isn't a valve to shut off somewhere? That sounds silly.
 
2020-05-02 4:14:16 PM  

mrmopar5287: Ivo Shandor: A plant which is set up to produce fuel ethanol doesn't necessarily have a convenient way of bypassing the later stages to fill a tanker truck with the 95%-ethanol intermediate product, before the other stuff is added.

There isn't a valve to shut off somewhere? That sounds silly.


They could, but they'll have to modify/disable the automation and then clean everything downstream from where they denature the alcohol, or you're going to still have tainted ethanol.  That's not that easy to do when you still have product in the fermenters (the only time they don't have that is during a shutdown if it's a long one; often they will have limited shutdowns where they leave the mash in the fermenters while they fix things and yeast doesn't stop eating/releasing CO2 on command, so you have a limitation on what you can do, and it's cost prohibitive to throw out the mash).  Then you have to make sure that it's protected enough where it can't go missing.  That's a bit of an issue when the average crew is....minimal, so they would have to hire  guards/add cameras/etc.

I'm not saying it can't be done, it's just a pain to get there.
 
2020-05-02 6:05:40 PM  
Not just drivability. Some aiplanes can use autofuel if there is no alcohol. At cold temps and at altitude the water comes out and becomes ice crystals. That block the fuel filter.

/been there, caught that before takeoff.
 
2020-05-02 6:05:55 PM  
Why are people still panic buying hand sanitizer? If you're stuck at home, use soap.
 
2020-05-02 7:26:59 PM  

gwoardnog: Heard about this, part of me is like "don't eat it you dummies", other part is, "this is for your hands, which you eat with, so probably not very good.")

Pretty much 1/3 of the price of corn (what makes it still profitable in the quantities we produce) is Ethanol.  Yea, this is gonna hurt a ton.  We're probably not even planting it next year (this year, all the fertilizer and shiat is already on and paid for, so, YOLO).  (that kind of corn does go food grade, think chips, tortillas, corn meal (sugar too) type applications (ours goes that way every so often, dependent on how clean we pick it usually, sometimes they'll tell you at the elevator)


Question; what percentage of American farmers still own the land they farm?
 
2020-05-02 8:38:03 PM  

ChiliBoots: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

No where in this article is any mention of actual lab results showing these industrial stills are magically adding gasoline to alcohol, just "concerns" from Purell's parent company and the FDA... hmmm.


I remember in Inorganic and biochem, the Prof telling us that ethanol was mixed with the pure alcohol, that we used in experiments, to make human sicks, if we drank..

/Was hung over.most of the time, but paid attention..
 
2020-05-02 9:39:18 PM  

edmo: They've been shipping tanker trucks of alcohol to Florida lately.


Florida is where I've seen the most widely-available selection of non-ethanol gasoline. I guess the boaters don't want their fiberglass fuel tanks dissolving, so it's easy to find petroleum 87 octane fuel (at about a 25% price premium) for boaters to fuel up.
 
2020-05-02 10:07:13 PM  
Corn. Nature's tracer material.

Sometimes he's nutty
Sometimes he's corny
He can be brown or greenish brown
(Mmmmhmmm!)
But if you eat fiber on Christmas eve
He might come to your town!
 
2020-05-03 2:56:36 AM  

Nocrash: OrionXVI: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

Actually, the ethanol producers usually add gasoline to the ethanol to keep the locals from stealing and drinking it.  It's usually the step after the 100% pure ethanol is made.

THIS is why we come to Fark. I find no where else you can quickly get expert user feedback on news stories. It's among the chaff of course, but I challenge anyone to name another site. That covers all topics, the site owner allows different opinions and doesn't allow unrestricted shiat slinging. I've tried many.  Liters ding this site for what they don't like, but where to go that is better, faster.  This farking thread is more informative on this story than you will hear for the next 12 hours (its life cycle) from conventional media. Thanks Drew  Curtis.


We have some important lurkers on Fark.

I could swear Lawrence O'Donnell listens to the same internet radio host I do.

/Bob Kincaid and headonlive.com
//it's great to know how knowledge both entertains us and unites us all.
///Greta Van Fleet is pretty good :)
 
2020-05-03 3:03:13 AM  

Warmachine999: Esc7: Ethanol in gasoline is a sham. It's literally energy negative and burning money for a single cause: moving taxpayer dollars out to Iowa and other areas.

The environment would literally have less carbon if we stopped ethanol in gasoline tomorrow.

I farking hate it.

Well, I for one am more on like it, to love it.

I prefer running my car on the E85 gas.  Why?  Between 104 to 107 octane opposed to 87 or 88 octane, means better performance from my car, and it helps with my gas lines not freezing in the winter time as the Ethanol removes any water from the fuel system and burns it off, and it has a lower freezing temp than regular Unleaded, which when the temp goes below zero out is a good thing.

Downside is harder to find, but my preferred gas stations near my house all have it, so its not a big problem for me.  Also, you lose up to 6 MPG due to the ethanol having less energy when it burns/explodes, and therefor get less miles per tank, but this also varies depending on the actual ethanol content, which could be between 51% and 85%.  So, literally, your mileage may vary.  And under normal circumstances, you can pay anywhere between $.12 and $.80 less per gallon.  Right now, E85 and regular unleaded are the same price, so its a wash.

So, does the improved performance make the less mileage worth it?  For me, and my lead foot?  Yes.  For my Dad who originally bought my vehicle before he went on to that great highway in the sky?  Yes.  For my wife and Mom who dont give a hoot about performance and acceleration, No.  Again, your mileage may vary.


So you want to destroy our environment...because your car gets good gas mileage?

Maybe you're autistic, and that makes perfect sense.
But that breakdown of your answer was just...unsettling.
 
2020-05-03 3:57:18 AM  

BlackChickWhiteAccent: Warmachine999: Esc7: Ethanol in gasoline is a sham. It's literally energy negative and burning money for a single cause: moving taxpayer dollars out to Iowa and other areas.

The environment would literally have less carbon if we stopped ethanol in gasoline tomorrow.

I farking hate it.

Well, I for one am more on like it, to love it.

I prefer running my car on the E85 gas.  Why?  Between 104 to 107 octane opposed to 87 or 88 octane, means better performance from my car, and it helps with my gas lines not freezing in the winter time as the Ethanol removes any water from the fuel system and burns it off, and it has a lower freezing temp than regular Unleaded, which when the temp goes below zero out is a good thing.

Downside is harder to find, but my preferred gas stations near my house all have it, so its not a big problem for me.  Also, you lose up to 6 MPG due to the ethanol having less energy when it burns/explodes, and therefor get less miles per tank, but this also varies depending on the actual ethanol content, which could be between 51% and 85%.  So, literally, your mileage may vary.  And under normal circumstances, you can pay anywhere between $.12 and $.80 less per gallon.  Right now, E85 and regular unleaded are the same price, so its a wash.

So, does the improved performance make the less mileage worth it?  For me, and my lead foot?  Yes.  For my Dad who originally bought my vehicle before he went on to that great highway in the sky?  Yes.  For my wife and Mom who dont give a hoot about performance and acceleration, No.  Again, your mileage may vary.

So you want to destroy our environment...because your car gets good gas mileage?

Maybe you're autistic, and that makes perfect sense.
But that breakdown of your answer was just...unsettling.


No. Not good milage. Good "performance" (car go fast)
 
2020-05-03 3:57:56 AM  
Which you know is even more selfish.
 
2020-05-03 12:13:40 PM  

wildlifer: ChiliBoots: scanman61: "One concern with impurities data submitted by some fuel ethanol companies is the unacceptable levels of known carcinogens (cancer causing agents), such as benzene, as well as formulas containing gasoline," the FDA said in a statement.

Benzene and gasoline?

Is someone trying to recover the ethanol after it's been blended?

No where in this article is any mention of actual lab results showing these industrial stills are magically adding gasoline to alcohol, just "concerns" from Purell's parent company and the FDA... hmmm.

I remember in Inorganic and biochem, the Prof telling us that ethanol was mixed with the pure alcohol, that we used in experiments, to make human sicks, if we drank..

/Was hung over.most of the time, but paid attention..


I hope you paid better attention to the rest of what the professor told you.
 
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