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(The New Yorker)   "Even if you go back into 1917, that was the worst of all time, but it was also not as bad as here. It was a bad one, but it wasn't quite like what we're going through right now," says Trump of flu pandemic that killed 650,000 Americans. In 1918   (newyorker.com) divider line
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2020-05-01 5:44:34 PM  
You mean the plague that killed your grandfather, you putz?

You're having it worse than your grandpa who died chocking in his own fluids and ravaged by fever?
 
2020-05-01 6:12:28 PM  

hubiestubert: You mean the plague that killed your grandfather, you putz?

You're having it worse than your grandpa who died chocking in his own fluids and ravaged by fever?


The real tragedy there is it didn't happen before he'd fathered Fred
 
2020-05-01 6:17:46 PM  

jake_lex: hubiestubert: You mean the plague that killed your grandfather, you putz?

You're having it worse than your grandpa who died chocking in his own fluids and ravaged by fever?

The real tragedy there is it didn't happen before he'd fathered Fred


Let us just be thankful that some universes were spared our timeline, and let us hope that they realize the bullet they dodged when travellers from one 'verse to another look at each others' history texts...

/Somewhere there is a world with President Stefani
 
2020-05-01 6:18:19 PM  
Yes, 1917 was much better than now, epidemiologically speaking.
 
2020-05-01 6:52:52 PM  
Liquid effluvia just falls from his fat anus-looking mouth.
 
2020-05-01 7:18:24 PM  
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He saw a poster for this somewhere and now the date is stuck in his spongy brain.
 
2020-05-01 7:23:55 PM  
hubiestubert:

You're having it worse than your grandpa who died chocking in his own fluids and ravaged by fever?


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2020-05-01 7:25:27 PM  
The Orange One doesn't understand strings of zeros.  To him 65000 = 650000.
 
2020-05-01 7:26:06 PM  

fusillade762: [Fark user image 432x640]

He saw a poster for this somewhere and now the date is stuck in his spongy brain.


That movie was a trip. It was Gabriel García levels of magic realism plus southern gothic.
 
2020-05-01 7:26:28 PM  

RainDawg: Yes, 1917 was much better than now, epidemiologically speaking.


Yup.. the current numbers are looking like 1.1 million dead.  Our mitigation measures are only slowing it down.  Survival rates are pretty much consistent.
 
2020-05-01 7:28:24 PM  
Trumpy the Clown really is stuck on stupid about this 1917 thing. Kind of like how he thinks that the Chinese government pays tariffs.
 
2020-05-01 7:28:31 PM  
Oh sweet, a new episode of drunk history.

/Wait he's sober?
//Okay maybe at least medicated
///One... Two... Three slashes. Ah ah ah
 
2020-05-01 7:28:51 PM  
Trump didn't learn from History and now it's repeating.  Who is shocked?  Anyone, anyone, Bueller?
 
2020-05-01 7:30:12 PM  
F**king moron.
 
2020-05-01 7:30:37 PM  
C'mon, one of you has to defend this guy.

Tell me again why I'm misunderstanding his words for the umpteenth time.
 
2020-05-01 7:31:26 PM  

BunkyBrewman: C'mon, one of you has to defend this guy.

Tell me again why I'm misunderstanding his words for the umpteenth time.


Because he has a hard time speaking coherent english.
 
2020-05-01 7:32:19 PM  
This is more like the 1957-58 flu. Killed between 70-120k in the USA. Or, maybe, the 1968 flu pandemic. Killed 100k in the USA.

Sad part is, old man Trump is old enough to remember both of them.
 
2020-05-01 7:32:50 PM  
Incoming Trump tweet:

"It was the best of times. It was the worst of times,

But not as best as now with ME in charge of the universe. And not as worst as now with ME in charge of the universe. AOC!"
 
2020-05-01 7:34:11 PM  
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2020-05-01 7:35:05 PM  

Shaggy_C: old man Trump is old enough to remember both of them


He is not memory enough to memory
 
2020-05-01 7:36:42 PM  
When the death toll hits 1,000,000 we can all say "He said he was gonna" to the Trumpublicans and point to this article.
 
2020-05-01 7:36:52 PM  
I just remind myself that if he were smart, he'd be even more dangerous.
 
2020-05-01 7:37:22 PM  
Die already you farking assh*le!
 
2020-05-01 7:37:29 PM  
If we could just get him to turn his power to good, his word salads alone could feed the planet...
 
2020-05-01 7:43:46 PM  

iToad: Trumpy the Clown really is stuck on stupid about this 1917 thing. Kind of like how he thinks that the Chinese government pays tariffs.


There was a movie made about 1917. Not many people know that. No one is a bigger 1917 genius than me.Many people are saying, sir, your talent at understanding this 1917 stuff is amazing.
 
2020-05-01 7:46:09 PM  
Scalpatine is complaining he's got it worse, after weeks of saying this isn't that bad.
 
2020-05-01 7:46:33 PM  

nytmare: iToad: Trumpy the Clown really is stuck on stupid about this 1917 thing. Kind of like how he thinks that the Chinese government pays tariffs.

There was a movie made about 1917. Not many people know that. No one is a bigger 1917 genius than me.Many people are saying, sir, your talent at understanding this 1917 stuff is amazing.


1917, they made a song about it, you know it? It's called the 1812 overtoyou're
 
2020-05-01 7:47:12 PM  
White House trade adviser Peter Navarro has also been saying 1917.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administ​r​ation/492455-navarro-knocks-60-minutes​-over-coverage-of-pandemic
Navarro knocks '60 Minutes' over coronavirus coverage: 'This is like the fake news stuff'
04/13/20
"Why, I mean black swans are hard to sell. This was the 500-year flood, this hasn't happened since 1917. You can line up every president since then and say, 'Why didn't you think this could happen again,' but that's not productive right now."


I don't know if Trump got "1917" from Navarro or if Navarro is saying "1917" to not upset Trump.
 
2020-05-01 7:47:39 PM  

fusillade762: [Fark user image 432x640]

He saw a poster for this somewhere and now the date is stuck in his spongy brain.


That seriously is why he does it. The moron may actually think it's about the pandemic.
 
2020-05-01 7:48:07 PM  
Three doctors are on the golf course talking shop. "What's the hardest procedure you've ever done?" one doctor asked the other two.

"Well," replied the plastic surgeon, "Some lady tried to commit suicide by jumping off a 20 story building. She was impaled on a flagpole on the 5th floor. Took me three days to get the smile off her face for her funeral. What about you?"

The second doctor says "I gave a lobotomy to a Republican - and he can still play the piano! What about you, Mark?"

The first doctor says "I have you both beat. Years ago some yahoo went out riding his horse in a hurricane. A volvo came down on them both and all that was left was the horse's ass. It was in surgery for 24 grueling hours and today, that ass it the President of the United States!"

/shamelessly stolen from every comedian evar
 
2020-05-01 7:48:10 PM  

nytmare: iToad: Trumpy the Clown really is stuck on stupid about this 1917 thing. Kind of like how Ahe thinks that the Chinese government pays tariffs.

There was a movie made about 1917. Not many people know that. No one is a bigger 1917 genius than me.Many people are saying, sir, your talent at understanding this 1917 stuff is amazing.


1917 was a great American movie. Produced by Americans, directed by Americans and starring Americans. And it was beaten by some foreign film. Pathetic!
 
2020-05-01 7:49:55 PM  

Weatherkiss: [i.imgur.com image 610x335]


Look, we already paid for 100,000 body bags. Do you want them to go to waste?
 
2020-05-01 7:50:05 PM  

HairBolus: White House trade adviser Peter Navarro has also been saying 1917.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administr​ation/492455-navarro-knocks-60-minutes​-over-coverage-of-pandemic
Navarro knocks '60 Minutes' over coronavirus coverage: 'This is like the fake news stuff'
04/13/20
"Why, I mean black swans are hard to sell. This was the 500-year flood, this hasn't happened since 1917. You can line up every president since then and say, 'Why didn't you think this could happen again,' but that's not productive right now."

I don't know if Trump got "1917" from Navarro or if Navarro is saying "1917" to not upset Trump.


I can only state that the beautiful people are in this case correct.

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2020-05-01 7:52:53 PM  

dionysusaur: The Orange One doesn't understand strings of zeros.  To him 65000 = 650000.


Given that the population of the US then was about a little more than a third of what it is today, the 1918 Flu pandemic killed about thirty times as many people per capita.  Does the Dumbshiat-in-Chief think that 0.018% is larger than 0.5%??  That might explain a lot of his business successes.  "Yes, my very good brain tells me that 18 is more than three times as much as 5."
 
2020-05-01 7:53:30 PM  

hubiestubert: You mean the plague that killed your grandfather, you putz?

You're having it worse than your grandpa who died chocking in his own fluids and ravaged by fever?


Well, not yet, he isn't.

*jabs pins in wax doll*
 
2020-05-01 7:53:59 PM  
"Also, what men did with their daughters wasn't as scrutinized as it is today.", he added whistfully.
 
2020-05-01 7:54:13 PM  
I always like to think people can learn from the mistakes made by others, and, the bigger the past mistake, the better lesson they should impart.  Instead, Trump just sees mistake made in the past by others as an excuse to fark up as much as possible and say, "Hey, I could have farked up even worse, praise me!"
 
2020-05-01 7:54:17 PM  
"Even if you go back into 1917," Trump said at a White House event for small-business leaders, "that was the worst of all time, but it was also not as bad as here. It was very bad, it was very rough. It was a bad one, but it wasn't quite like what we're going through right now."

1917, no pandemic, just a little barely noticeable world war.
 
2020-05-01 7:54:17 PM  

vudukungfu: hubiestubert: You mean the plague that killed your grandfather, you putz?

You're having it worse than your grandpa who died chocking in his own fluids and ravaged by fever?

Well, not yet, he isn't.

*jabs pins in wax doll*


Username checks out.
 
2020-05-01 7:56:07 PM  
I think he just leaked the result of a briefing with an exasperated expert. Again.

"Just like the flu" = someone trying to make the dimwitted asshole understand that Covid is going to kill people, when said dimwitted asshole didn't even realize the flu did.

"Had tests that were broken" = someone trying to make the dimwitted asshole understand that the tests they already had wouldn't work on a new virus and we need new ones.

"Worse than 1917" = someone trying to make the dimwitted asshole understand basic epidemiology -- if we don't do more, if we let the welfa(R)e states of Trashcanistan do stupid shiat, err, continue to do stupid shiat, this is going to make the 1918 death toll look like a bad cold.

So. Now we know he's been told.

Watch him continue the mass murder.  He, his admin, his enablers, his defenders are all guilty of mass murder.

But, you know. Ovaries. Buttery males. Real 'murcans.  Etc.

Good times.
 
2020-05-01 7:56:40 PM  
So now he's saying to expect a million plus casualties?.
Is this so when a half million die, he can say the we got off light.
 
2020-05-01 8:03:54 PM  

Catlenfell: So now he's saying to expect a million plus casualties?.
Is this so when a half million die, he can say the we got off light.


1.1 dead has been the forecast for a long time...anything less than that and we are beating the odds.
 
2020-05-01 8:04:42 PM  
Trump says it's "bad here?" I cannot keep up.
 
2020-05-01 8:14:02 PM  

SFSailor: I think he just leaked the result of a briefing with an exasperated expert. Again.

"Just like the flu" = someone trying to make the dimwitted asshole understand that Covid is going to kill people, when said dimwitted asshole didn't even realize the flu did.

"Had tests that were broken" = someone trying to make the dimwitted asshole understand that the tests they already had wouldn't work on a new virus and we need new ones.

"Worse than 1917" = someone trying to make the dimwitted asshole understand basic epidemiology -- if we don't do more, if we let the welfa(R)e states of Trashcanistan do stupid shiat, err, continue to do stupid shiat, this is going to make the 1918 death toll look like a bad cold.

So. Now we know he's been told.

Watch him continue the mass murder.  He, his admin, his enablers, his defenders are all guilty of mass murder.

But, you know. Ovaries. Buttery males. Real 'murcans.  Etc.

Good times.


I think you and I should make babbys.
Not sure how to go about that, but your jib is magnificent.
 
2020-05-01 8:19:30 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: HairBolus: White House trade adviser Peter Navarro has also been saying 1917.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administr​ation/492455-navarro-knocks-60-minutes​-over-coverage-of-pandemic
Navarro knocks '60 Minutes' over coronavirus coverage: 'This is like the fake news stuff'
04/13/20
"Why, I mean black swans are hard to sell. This was the 500-year flood, this hasn't happened since 1917. You can line up every president since then and say, 'Why didn't you think this could happen again,' but that's not productive right now."

I don't know if Trump got "1917" from Navarro or if Navarro is saying "1917" to not upset Trump.

I can only state that the beautiful people are in this case correct.

[YouTube video: Honest Government Ad | The Machine]


That's probably the best one I've seen from them yet.
 
2020-05-01 8:20:39 PM  

HairBolus: White House trade adviser Peter Navarro has also been saying 1917.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administr​ation/492455-navarro-knocks-60-minutes​-over-coverage-of-pandemic
Navarro knocks '60 Minutes' over coronavirus coverage: 'This is like the fake news stuff'
04/13/20
"Why, I mean black swans are hard to sell. This was the 500-year flood, this hasn't happened since 1917. You can line up every president since then and say, 'Why didn't you think this could happen again,' but that's not productive right now."

I don't know if Trump got "1917" from Navarro or if Navarro is saying "1917" to not upset Trump.


Meh, I don't know why people care about it being a year off. We have a bazillion other things to talk about. Who cares if someone is a year off from something that happened over a hundred years ago? Fark it's like freaking out over "57 states".

There are at least a dozen more interesting flubs every single farking day.
 
2020-05-01 8:23:23 PM  

dwrash: Catlenfell: So now he's saying to expect a million plus casualties?.
Is this so when a half million die, he can say the we got off light.

1.1 dead has been the forecast for a long time...anything less than that and we are beating the odds.


Wow, that's almost as many as die in a year of car crashes in the U.S.!  Right? Oh, that's right, that is completely wrong.

You don't get to make predictions, dude, you've already demonstrated that you are incapable of rendering judgments on what are good and bad odds around here.
 
2020-05-01 8:24:24 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: That's probably the best one I've seen from them yet.


It surely makes me wish I came from a land down under. Also, 35 years younger.
 
2020-05-01 8:26:22 PM  
 
2020-05-01 8:26:55 PM  
To be accurate, 650K Americans didn't die in 1918 itself. It was from 1918-20. Also, there are estimates that it could have been a higher number, up to 800K.

Drives me crazy every time Trump says it was in 1917.
 
2020-05-01 8:28:23 PM  

RyogaM: dwrash: Catlenfell: So now he's saying to expect a million plus casualties?.
Is this so when a half million die, he can say the we got off light.

1.1 dead has been the forecast for a long time...anything less than that and we are beating the odds.

Wow, that's almost as many as die in a year of car crashes in the U.S.!  Right? Oh, that's right, that is completely wrong.

You don't get to make predictions, dude, you've already demonstrated that you are incapable of rendering judgments on what are good and bad odds around here.


Not my prediction.
 
2020-05-01 8:32:38 PM  

dionysusaur: I think you and I should make babbys.
Not sure how to go about that, but your jib is magnificent.


Uh... thanks?  Teledildonics, I guess?  I'll just take a raincheck, though, for now.

I was, and remain, *very* upset about the "just like a flu" conflation.  Been shouting about it not being the flu since February.  That bad (or willfully destructive) messaging is responsible for countless deaths:  It is probably the most destructive, terrible, stupid, misinforming, usefully-willfully-ignorant thing to come out of the admin.  And that anger, stewing away among the three or four neurons that count as "back of my mind" kicked forward the likely exchange,

"sir, it'll kill millions if we don't handle it correctly."
< Trump:  Puzzled, angry look and ignorance >

"No, it's a new disease, but it could kill millions."
< Trump:  Puzzled, angry look and ignorance >

"yes, something like this kills people."
< Trump:  Puzzled, angry look and ignorance >

"ok... uh... um...  like the flu, you know?"
< Trump:  Puzzled, angry look and ignorance >

"no, sir, the flu, every year.  Kills millions."
< Trump:  Puzzled, angry look and ignorance >

"yes, that flu."
< Trump:  Puzzled, angry look and ignorance >

"sir, yes, kills millions, but if we jump on this, we can keep it contained."

"oh ffs someone get me a drink."


Then we get,

"Nobody knows this! The flu kills a lot of people!  This isn't going to be that bad.  It's just like the flu.  I could have gone to MIT.  People say, 'sir, you really get this stuff!'  Like the flu, you know. Many people don't know it kills a lot of people.  Many, many good people die from the flu, not this though, it's like that."

The next two -- bad tests, this new "not as bad as 1917" fits the model... as do some historical "revelations." -- just fit right in that scenario.

And here we are.  60k+ dead who didn't need to die.  In a couple months.  And it's only gonna get worse. Something that, AT WORST, should have been a regional tragedy, probably in CA or WA where it could have been dismissed as "stupid lib state" and "only" 5-10k dead in a year... but never should have left China.  ALL OF IT is on Trump, his admin, his enablers, and his defenders.

And they'll be shouting about how it was "only" 500k instead of 2.0m in November, and call that a win.

As has already happened in this thread, but I ain't gonna quote it.

Good times.

Good luck, Farkers.  Stay safe.  Find some time to smile and eat a good meal.  Wash your hands.  STAY HOME.
 
2020-05-01 8:36:32 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: Shaggy_C: old man Trump is old enough to remember both of them

He is not memory enough to memory


He hasn't got a "memory".
 
2020-05-01 8:37:43 PM  

dwrash: RyogaM: dwrash: Catlenfell: So now he's saying to expect a million plus casualties?.
Is this so when a half million die, he can say the we got off light.

1.1 dead has been the forecast for a long time...anything less than that and we are beating the odds.

Wow, that's almost as many as die in a year of car crashes in the U.S.!  Right? Oh, that's right, that is completely wrong.

You don't get to make predictions, dude, you've already demonstrated that you are incapable of rendering judgments on what are good and bad odds around here.

Not my prediction.


When you repeat the forecast of other people in a public place without disagreement, you are endorsing the prediction.  You repeated the false claim that we lose a million people in the U.S. to car accidents every year, so, you're not so good with the whole comprehension thing or the ability to discern good information from bad.   Stay in your lane,
 
2020-05-01 8:38:09 PM  

dionysusaur: The Orange One doesn't understand strings of zeros.  To him 65000 = 650000.


Is that why he thinks he's a billionaire?   1,000,000 looks like 1,000,000,000 to him?
 
2020-05-01 8:39:16 PM  

talkertopc: "Even if you go back into 1917," Trump said at a White House event for small-business leaders, "that was the worst of all time, but it was also not as bad as here. It was very bad, it was very rough. It was a bad one, but it wasn't quite like what we're going through right now."

1917, no pandemic, just a little barely noticeable world war.


A million people died at the Battle of the Somme, she said helpfully.
 
2020-05-01 8:39:29 PM  
shut the fark up you lying piece of ignorant shiat. Everything he says is a lie. I just read a story that the WH (Trump) is blocking Dr Fauci from testifying in their hearing on the Covid-19 response. Of course he is. Trump Lie #13,818 "There has never been, ever before, an administration that's been so open and transparent."  Ass cancer is too good for him.
 
2020-05-01 8:40:27 PM  

Mikey1969: HairBolus: White House trade adviser Peter Navarro has also been saying 1917.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administr​ation/492455-navarro-knocks-60-minutes​-over-coverage-of-pandemic
Navarro knocks '60 Minutes' over coronavirus coverage: 'This is like the fake news stuff'
04/13/20
"Why, I mean black swans are hard to sell. This was the 500-year flood, this hasn't happened since 1917. You can line up every president since then and say, 'Why didn't you think this could happen again,' but that's not productive right now."

I don't know if Trump got "1917" from Navarro or if Navarro is saying "1917" to not upset Trump.

Meh, I don't know why people care about it being a year off. We have a bazillion other things to talk about. Who cares if someone is a year off from something that happened over a hundred years ago? Fark it's like freaking out over "57 states".

There are at least a dozen more interesting flubs every single farking day.


Because it is incorrect and just because he has the movie "1917" on his brain, he is the farking POTUS and should know something that farking easy. Especially if he is going to (incorrectly) use it as an example.
 
2020-05-01 9:06:46 PM  
You are wasting time pointing out his pig ignorance.  It doesn't help.  Most of his followers are just as pig ignorant.
 
2020-05-01 9:22:20 PM  
In Trump's defense, he's got about 8 more months to get 600,000 more of us killed.

Plus they didn't have Trump to deal with in 1917.
 
2020-05-01 9:22:31 PM  

Fissile: You are wasting time pointing out his pig ignorance.  It doesn't help.  Most of his followers are just as pig ignorant.


It's not his followers that need to see this stuff. It's the 90 million eligible voters who didn't think it mattered in 2016. fark his followers; they're a lost cause.
 
2020-05-01 9:33:25 PM  
FYI: His farking grandfather died from the 1918 epidemic.

He's probably saying 1917 because of the movie.
 
2020-05-01 9:38:53 PM  
I know we set the bar low for him as president, but, goddamn.
 
2020-05-01 9:43:25 PM  
He also keeps insisting that the Spanish Flu ended WW1.
 
2020-05-01 9:59:41 PM  

HairBolus: White House trade adviser Peter Navarro has also been saying 1917.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administr​ation/492455-navarro-knocks-60-minutes​-over-coverage-of-pandemic
Navarro knocks '60 Minutes' over coronavirus coverage: 'This is like the fake news stuff'
04/13/20
"Why, I mean black swans are hard to sell. This was the 500-year flood, this hasn't happened since 1917. You can line up every president since then and say, 'Why didn't you think this could happen again,' but that's not productive right now."

I don't know if Trump got "1917" from Navarro or if Navarro is saying "1917" to not upset Trump.


Except the 500year flood was 100 year virus that not only were we overdue for but frigging George Bush the Lessor recognized was coming and started preparing for.
 
2020-05-01 10:08:18 PM  

dodecahedron: To be accurate, 650K Americans didn't die in 1918 itself. It was from 1918-20. Also, there are estimates that it could have been a higher number, up to 800K.

Drives me crazy every time Trump says it was in 1917.


Yes, almost all estimates of the so-called Spanish flu are rather low. Good research has shown it was much higher.
 
2020-05-01 10:08:42 PM  

RyogaM: dwrash: RyogaM: dwrash: Catlenfell: So now he's saying to expect a million plus casualties?.
Is this so when a half million die, he can say the we got off light.

1.1 dead has been the forecast for a long time...anything less than that and we are beating the odds.

Wow, that's almost as many as die in a year of car crashes in the U.S.!  Right? Oh, that's right, that is completely wrong.

You don't get to make predictions, dude, you've already demonstrated that you are incapable of rendering judgments on what are good and bad odds around here.

Not my prediction.

When you repeat the forecast of other people in a public place without disagreement, you are endorsing the prediction.  You repeated the false claim that we lose a million people in the U.S. to car accidents every year, so, you're not so good with the whole comprehension thing or the ability to discern good information from bad.   Stay in your lane,


You head about to explode and you feel superior because I made 1 mistake?

Such a little insignificant and needy human you are... worthless and a waste of soace.
 
2020-05-01 10:14:35 PM  

Gyrfalcon: talkertopc: "Even if you go back into 1917," Trump said at a White House event for small-business leaders, "that was the worst of all time, but it was also not as bad as here. It was very bad, it was very rough. It was a bad one, but it wasn't quite like what we're going through right now."

1917, no pandemic, just a little barely noticeable world war.

A million people died at the Battle of the Somme, she said helpfully.


A million casualties, not a million deaths.
 
2020-05-01 10:22:27 PM  

talkertopc: Gyrfalcon: talkertopc: "Even if you go back into 1917," Trump said at a White House event for small-business leaders, "that was the worst of all time, but it was also not as bad as here. It was very bad, it was very rough. It was a bad one, but it wasn't quite like what we're going through right now."

1917, no pandemic, just a little barely noticeable world war.

A million people died at the Battle of the Somme, she said helpfully.

A million casualties, not a million deaths.


Yeah, I have read estimates of 300K to half a million dead.
 
2020-05-01 10:41:35 PM  
I wish Trump would be a better Budd to the American people.
 
2020-05-01 11:47:52 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Liquid effluvia just falls from his fat anus-looking mouth.


Orangeveil Trump Hazaak is weak against fire and dragon attacks, and occasionally covers smaller monsters in its effluvia expulsions, causing them to come fight by its side. Equipping miasma jewels will prevent effluvia buildup on you, but you'll still take damage if you get too close. You need the Effluvia Mastery skill off certain gear to prevent the broad effluvia damage that persists in the Rotten Swamp.

The key is to burn it with fire, and to burn the tailriders it calls with even more fire. When defeated, Orangeveil Trump Hazaak can be carved for an Orange Trump Gem and Tangerine Talons, which can be used to upgrade to some of the game's most powerful poison-element weapons. The Trump Hazaak armor also contains the exclusive skill "MAGA Mastery", which makes you immune to the cries of right-wing creatures.
 
2020-05-01 11:50:32 PM  
With no cure for the flu, many doctors prescribed medication that they felt would alleviate symptoms... including aspirin, which had been trademarked by Bayer in 1899-a patent that expired in 1917, meaning new companies were able to produce the drug during the Spanish Flu epidemic.
Before the spike in deaths attributed to the Spanish Flu in 1918, the U.S. Surgeon General, Navy and the Journal of the American Medical Association had all recommended the use of aspirin. Medical professionals advised patients to take up to 30 grams per day, a dose now known to be toxic. (For comparison's sake, the medical consensus today is that doses above four grams are unsafe.) Symptoms of aspirin poisoning include hyperventilation and pulmonary edema, or the buildup of fluid in the lungs, and it's now believed that many of the October deaths were actually caused or hastened by aspirin poisoning.

Say, does Bayer sell any anti-malarial meds? Asking for a couple billion friends.
 
2020-05-02 12:52:30 AM  

Dewey Fidalgo: talkertopc: Gyrfalcon: talkertopc: "Even if you go back into 1917," Trump said at a White House event for small-business leaders, "that was the worst of all time, but it was also not as bad as here. It was very bad, it was very rough. It was a bad one, but it wasn't quite like what we're going through right now."

1917, no pandemic, just a little barely noticeable world war.

A million people died at the Battle of the Somme, she said helpfully.

A million casualties, not a million deaths.

Yeah, I have read estimates of 300K to half a million dead.


I do believe that this time you are wrong. The First Battle of the Somme had 1.1 million casualties, with 14,000 British killed the first day alone; however:

8. Nearly 500,000 British were killed
After 141 days of battle, there was over a million casualties between the British, French, and German forces. Once the Battle of the Somme was over, 420,000 British men had lost their lives.
9. German casualties rose because of General Fritz von Below's order
General Fritz von Below ordered his men not to lose any land to the Allies. This meant that German forces were required to counterattack in order to regain any losses. Because of this order, about 440,000 German men were killed.

That's already 860,000 killed, not including the French casualties. Source: https://www.historyhit.com/facts-abou​t​-the-battle-of-the-somme/


Possibly you are thinking of the Second Battle of the Somme, which took place in 1918, had 804,000 total casualties and a lower total KIA.

Of course, after the first half-million, who's really counting?
 
2020-05-02 1:14:43 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Dewey Fidalgo: talkertopc: Gyrfalcon: talkertopc: "Even if you go back into 1917," Trump said at a White House event for small-business leaders, "that was the worst of all time, but it was also not as bad as here. It was very bad, it was very rough. It was a bad one, but it wasn't quite like what we're going through right now."

1917, no pandemic, just a little barely noticeable world war.

A million people died at the Battle of the Somme, she said helpfully.

A million casualties, not a million deaths.

Yeah, I have read estimates of 300K to half a million dead.

I do believe that this time you are wrong. The First Battle of the Somme had 1.1 million casualties, with 14,000 British killed the first day alone; however:

8. Nearly 500,000 British were killed
After 141 days of battle, there was over a million casualties between the British, French, and German forces. Once the Battle of the Somme was over, 420,000 British men had lost their lives.
9. German casualties rose because of General Fritz von Below's order
General Fritz von Below ordered his men not to lose any land to the Allies. This meant that German forces were required to counterattack in order to regain any losses. Because of this order, about 440,000 German men were killed.
That's already 860,000 killed, not including the French casualties. Source: https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about​-the-battle-of-the-somme/


Possibly you are thinking of the Second Battle of the Somme, which took place in 1918, had 804,000 total casualties and a lower total KIA.

Of course, after the first half-million, who's really counting?


You might be right.   The death is so beyond comprehending.
 
2020-05-02 1:31:59 AM  

Gyrfalcon: PartTimeBuddha: Shaggy_C: old man Trump is old enough to remember both of them

He is not memory enough to memory

He hasn't got a "memory".


Sure he does.  But he can only remember what the last person who talked to him said.
 
2020-05-02 1:22:57 PM  

Gough: dionysusaur: The Orange One doesn't understand strings of zeros.  To him 65000 = 650000.

Given that the population of the US then was about a little more than a third of what it is today, the 1918 Flu pandemic killed about thirty times as many people per capita.  Does the Dumbshiat-in-Chief think that 0.018% is larger than 0.5%??  That might explain a lot of his business successes.  "Yes, my very good brain tells me that 18 is more than three times as much as 5."


The 1918 flu pandemic killed about 675,000 in the US which, at the time, had a population of 103 milion, for an infection fatality rate (IFR) of about 0.66%.

The coronavirus is expected to infect between 40% and 70% of the population. A major part of the variance is how soon we get a vaccine. If we get really lucky and get a good vaccine out in January 2021 and don't fark up the deployment, we might keep it down to 40%. If we don't - and be warned that vaccine development fails a lot and sometimes takes many years to get right - then herd immunity won't stop the epidemic until 70% of the population is infected.

The true fatality rate of Covid-19, referred to as IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) rather than the CFR (Case Fatality Rate), remains hugely contentious, and we really won't know for at least several years, but it is likely to be somewhere in the range of 0.20% and 0.80%.

For reference, IFRs for flu seasons in the US typically come in below 0.20%. The 2014-2015 flu season, a particularly bad one in the US, had about 30 million infections with symptoms and killed about 51,000 for an estimated IFR of about 0.17%. The next flu season, 2015-2016, infected about the same number with symptoms but only killed about 23,000 in the US, for an IFR of 0.08%.

The US population now is 331 million. 40% of that is 132 million, and 70% is 231 million.
For infection of 132 million:
0.20% IFR = 264,000
0.50% IFR = 660,000
0.80% IFR = 1,056,000
For infection of 231 million:
0.20% IFR = 462,000
0.50% IFR = 1,155,000
0.80% IFR =  1,848,000

If the coronavirus shared the same 0.66% IFR as the 1918 pandemic, the range of fatalities in the US would be between 871,200 if 40% were infected and 1,524,600 if 70% were infected.
 
2020-05-02 2:13:33 PM  

evilsofa: The 1918 flu pandemic killed about 675,000 in the US which, at the time, had a population of 103 milion, for an infection fatality rate (IFR) of about 0.66%.


I forgot to include herd immunity when calculating the IFR of the 1918 flu pandemic. I shouldn't have assumed that 100% of the population was infected, so the IFR should be even higher. However, the 1918 flu pandemic was very abnormal and complicated due to the nature of its three waves, so calculating its herd immunity doesn't seem possible.
 
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