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(Some Guy)   The EPI survey, starting with 24.4 million people who applied for unemployment benefits between March 15 and April 18, shows that the actual number of unemployed workers in the US is somewhere between 33.3 and 38.3 million people   (wsws.org) divider line
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2020-04-29 1:37:30 PM  
So... One Canada.
 
2020-04-29 1:47:05 PM  
If they were workers, they wouldn't be unemployed.

Chessmate.

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2020-04-29 2:07:51 PM  
We have people who are unemployed who aren't filing because they're wealthy.  Or on other benefits.

I hope those who need it get it.
 
2020-04-29 2:13:04 PM  
I'm one
 
2020-04-29 2:42:50 PM  
EEEEEEk SOCIALISM!!!!
 
2020-04-29 2:45:13 PM  
Remember when Trump claimed the real unemployment number was 40% in an effort to stoke economic anxiety during an election?

Another promise kept.
 
2020-04-29 2:45:34 PM  
Add a thousand more Sunday when my company terminates its entire workforce.
 
2020-04-29 2:47:22 PM  
Rents and mortgages are due day after tomorrow. Again.
This is going to be great.
 
2020-04-29 2:49:47 PM  
That's more than when Obama took office, isn't it?  Gonna be tough campaigning on employment numbers now, huh Donnie?
 
2020-04-29 2:50:43 PM  

kzspam: Add a thousand more Sunday when my company terminates its entire workforce.


This sucks. No snark. I'm very lucky right now and I know it but I have some creeping despair that my luck will run out far sooner than will be healthy. I honestly hope you find a good way through this and have that same hope for everyone.

/except Trump supporters. Fark them.
 
2020-04-29 2:51:19 PM  
May Day in Seattle is going to be interesting. Wonder if hackers will be involved?
 
2020-04-29 2:51:29 PM  
Next week we'll have the household unemployment survey for april. I expect 30 million jobs lost.
 
2020-04-29 2:53:28 PM  
How is the stock market still trending upward? Don't business need people to actually buy things in order to make money?
 
2020-04-29 2:53:38 PM  
I lost a bunch of booked, future independent contract work, but I was hesitant to claim for it because I don't have an LLC or DBA, and a lot of the checks from last year were one-off gigs that didn't warrant a 1099-MISC, so I didn't report those earnings in my tax filing.  I know the IRS probably has bigger fish to fry than my poor ass, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't right, and my state is definitely on Trump's enemies list.

And now, since I still have an 18-hour part time position, I have been informed that this counts as "excessive earnings" and I don't qualify for one cent of my approved $180 weekly benefit.

What the fark do I do now?
 
2020-04-29 2:54:20 PM  

Aquapope: That's more than when Obama took office, isn't it?  Gonna be tough campaigning on employment numbers now, huh Donnie?


Why do you think he's so antsy about lifting lockdowns? He's been in full panic mode for weeks because people are putting their own health above his reelection strategy.
 
2020-04-29 2:55:42 PM  

Palined Parenthood: I lost a bunch of booked, future independent contract work, but I was hesitant to claim for it because I don't have an LLC or DBA, and a lot of the checks from last year were one-off gigs that didn't warrant a 1099-MISC, so I didn't report those earnings in my tax filing.  I know the IRS probably has bigger fish to fry than my poor ass, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't right, and my state is definitely on Trump's enemies list.

And now, since I still have an 18-hour part time position, I have been informed that this counts as "excessive earnings" and I don't qualify for one cent of my approved $180 weekly benefit.

What the fark do I do now?


To be clear, whatever huge thing is probably about to drop on Friday is absolutely not my monthly (!!!) paycheck.
 
2020-04-29 2:57:03 PM  
How many of these poor people are going to be homeless in the next month or two? Not eating, because they have a choice between food and a home?  Then there's health insurance... and if they have kids...

This is almost too large to absorb.
 
2020-04-29 2:57:23 PM  
Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.
 
2020-04-29 2:59:14 PM  

chaoswolf: kzspam: Add a thousand more Sunday when my company terminates its entire workforce.

This sucks. No snark. I'm very lucky right now and I know it but I have some creeping despair that my luck will run out far sooner than will be healthy. I honestly hope you find a good way through this and have that same hope for everyone.

/except Trump supporters. Fark them.


Yeah, we're luckier than most. Health insurance thru end of July. Supposedly we will all be called back soon when the social restrictions are lifted.  /s Because it's a great idea for people to start gathering again soon.
 
2020-04-29 2:59:19 PM  

Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.


Do what Canada is doing, and then everyone can stay home safely. Open up too early, people are going to end up poor AND dead.
 
2020-04-29 2:59:46 PM  

lolmao500: Next week we'll have the household unemployment survey for april. I expect 30 million jobs lost.


It's speculation that we're on the down end of the virus and we'll be out of it soon.
 
2020-04-29 3:00:13 PM  

Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.


What happens if the economy reopens now? Are people going to flock to movies, restaurants, etc.? Are they going to run out and buy houses and cars?
 
2020-04-29 3:04:35 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: So... One Canada.


How many Rhode Islands is that?
 
2020-04-29 3:04:38 PM  
The economy is screwed. It's only a matter of degree now. We lost so much time because of the lag in testing. The only way back is to amp up testing and contact tracing massively until we get a vaccine. If you want to open things up sooner, commit to doing that. Don't say a word about "cure worse than the disease" until you're committed to providing the level of testing and contact tracing necessary to make it work.
 
2020-04-29 3:05:37 PM  

Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.


Yes, because people see being slaves as the least bad option.
This is about social structure, not economics.
Let it burn down and we'll start over using intelligent processes.
Universal Basic Income and National Health Care are the only way out of this.
 
2020-04-29 3:06:41 PM  
Shaggy_C:

Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy?

Americans should be looking at what has been done for them, compared to what's been done elsewhere, and asking why they're being forced back to work when the pandemic hasn't peaked yet.  They aren't, because they're plagued by a culturally ingrained learned helplessness when it comes to the government and its responsibilities, but they should.
 
2020-04-29 3:10:53 PM  
In 2016, over 70% of eligible voters either voted Trump or didn't vote at all.

This must be what the American people wanted  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2020-04-29 3:11:17 PM  

someonelse: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

What happens if the economy reopens now? Are people going to flock to movies, restaurants, etc.? Are they going to run out and buy houses and cars?


Look at Sweden; business is down thanks to voluntary social distancing measures, but the economy isn't entirely stopped. Eventually things are going to have to open up; the question is how much economic pain must be inflicted before it does. Those same people who would die of The disease today will still die in 6 months anyways.
 
2020-04-29 3:11:23 PM  
I wonder why the U.S. seems to be the only developed nation where the cure being worse than the disease is even a possibility.
 
2020-04-29 3:11:46 PM  

Tman144: How is the stock market still trending upward? Don't business need people to actually buy things in order to make money?


You're kidding, right? Laying ppl off means more profit

HotIgneous Intruder: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

Yes, because people see being slaves as the least bad option.
This is about social structure, not economics.
Let it burn down and we'll start over using intelligent processes.
Universal Basic Income and National Health Care are the only way out of this.


We haven't done so throughout recorded history, why do you think anything will change. The super minority will control everything as they always have, regardless of the suffering it brings. Sure, we may eat some rich along the way, but they always regain control.
 
2020-04-29 3:11:55 PM  

Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.


The "cure" that's BETTER than the disease is 'give poor people money and social programs to support them during crises, be they personal or societal crises'.

The real pandemic that threatens the existence of the United States is conservative, laissez-faire capitalism
 
2020-04-29 3:12:27 PM  

skozlaw: Aquapope: That's more than when Obama took office, isn't it?  Gonna be tough campaigning on employment numbers now, huh Donnie?

Why do you think he's so antsy about lifting lockdowns? He's been in full panic mode for weeks because people are putting their own health above his reelection strategy.


If he had acted responsibly we could have had minimal, regional lockdowns and a solid handle on the spread of the disease.  By late summer things could have been almost back to normal, with some distancing still going on.  But now we're gonna all go out an play in the sun until July, when the hospitals all start to fill up again and by election day things will be orders of magnitude worse than if he'd done the right thing.  And that's why he's a shiatty president and shiatty human.
 
2020-04-29 3:12:40 PM  

Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.


LOL. What about the gov/state tell banks to suspend all rent/mortgage payments for the next 6 months without interest or else they lose their business license and get their assets seized?
 
2020-04-29 3:15:39 PM  

Shaggy_C: someonelse: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

What happens if the economy reopens now? Are people going to flock to movies, restaurants, etc.? Are they going to run out and buy houses and cars?

Look at Sweden; business is down thanks to voluntary social distancing measures, but the economy isn't entirely stopped. Eventually things are going to have to open up; the question is how much economic pain must be inflicted before it does. Those same people who would die of The disease today will still die in 6 months anyways.


Yeah Sweden, where people die by the hundreds so they have their economy tank 2% less than ours.

BLOOD FOR THE CAPITALIST GOD.

/if this were the 70s communists would have had a field day with how the US handle this pandemic
 
2020-04-29 3:16:23 PM  

lolmao500: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

LOL. What about the gov/state tell banks to suspend all rent/mortgage payments for the next 6 months without interest or else they lose their business license and get their assets seized?


That may be a little heavy handed, but it sure would shake loose the libertarians and gun nuts from the Trump train, I think.  It plays into the gubbmint is taking my rights dialog.
 
2020-04-29 3:17:13 PM  

Shaggy_C: someonelse: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

What happens if the economy reopens now? Are people going to flock to movies, restaurants, etc.? Are they going to run out and buy houses and cars?

Look at Sweden; business is down thanks to voluntary social distancing measures, but the economy isn't entirely stopped. Eventually things are going to have to open up; the question is how much economic pain must be inflicted before it does. Those same people who would die of The disease today will still die in 6 months anyways.


They also have thousands more infected and hundreds more dead than the other countries in the area.

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2020-04-29 3:19:35 PM  

Shaggy_C: someonelse: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

What happens if the economy reopens now? Are people going to flock to movies, restaurants, etc.? Are they going to run out and buy houses and cars?

Look at Sweden; business is down thanks to voluntary social distancing measures, but the economy isn't entirely stopped. Eventually things are going to have to open up; the question is how much economic pain must be inflicted before it does. Those same people who would die of The disease today will still die in 6 months anyways.


Franklin Graham posted that stuff about Sweden on Facebook, and got flagged for spreading fake news. Sweden's cases are still rising.

Those same people who would die of The disease today will still die in 6 months anyways.
With the addition of all the deaths from a new wave of infections brought on by forcing people back to work without protection. And a wave of lawsuits.

Again, if you want the country to reopen, demand that we invest in way more testing and contact tracing.
 
2020-04-29 3:20:53 PM  
IF I recall my employment statistics correctly, there are 156,000,000 people in the US labor force  so 34 million unemployed would be...22% of the workforce.  In the worst part of the Great Depression that number was 24%
 
2020-04-29 3:22:40 PM  

Palined Parenthood: I lost a bunch of booked, future independent contract work, but I was hesitant to claim for it because I don't have an LLC or DBA, and a lot of the checks from last year were one-off gigs that didn't warrant a 1099-MISC, so I didn't report those earnings in my tax filing.  I know the IRS probably has bigger fish to fry than my poor ass, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't right, and my state is definitely on Trump's enemies list.

And now, since I still have an 18-hour part time position, I have been informed that this counts as "excessive earnings" and I don't qualify for one cent of my approved $180 weekly benefit.

What the fark do I do now?


"I misreported my income so I wouldn't have to pay as many taxes and now I'm SHOCKED to find out that the government isn't going to come to my rescue!"

That's some fine tax evasion you got going on over there, huh, lou? 

maybe you should have saved some of the money you stole from the government.
 
2020-04-29 3:25:56 PM  

Mail Order American Husband: lolmao500: Next week we'll have the household unemployment survey for april. I expect 30 million jobs lost.

It's speculation that we're on the down end of the virus and we'll be out of it soon.


IMO the number of active cases should be the metric used to decide whether to open or not.

Per https://www.worldometers.info/cor​onavi​rus/country/us/, there are 10,000 more active cases today than there were yesterday and 1,000 more deaths.  Until the number of active cases starts declining, I have a hard time believing that we're on the downward slope.
 
2020-04-29 3:26:56 PM  
I'm unemployed too, but in a better position than most. I'm technically "furloughed" and I get to keep my health insurance, for now. I don't expect it to last too much longer, as my company is in auto, and our particular line of work was thin margin.

My boss sent me a text today (3 weeks since layoff) to say hey. My guess is she is trying to gauge how to let us go.

But....

/Stonks are up
//If that makes you feel better
///It doesn't I know
 
2020-04-29 3:27:48 PM  

someonelse: The economy is screwed. It's only a matter of degree now. We lost so much time because of the lag in testing. The only way back is to amp up testing and contact tracing massively until we get a vaccine. If you want to open things up sooner, commit to doing that. Don't say a word about "cure worse than the disease" until you're committed to providing the level of testing and contact tracing necessary to make it work.


You should also include appropriate PPE in the work environment.
 
2020-04-29 3:32:12 PM  

Murkanen: Shaggy_C: someonelse: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

What happens if the economy reopens now? Are people going to flock to movies, restaurants, etc.? Are they going to run out and buy houses and cars?

Look at Sweden; business is down thanks to voluntary social distancing measures, but the economy isn't entirely stopped. Eventually things are going to have to open up; the question is how much economic pain must be inflicted before it does. Those same people who would die of The disease today will still die in 6 months anyways.

They also have thousands more infected and hundreds more dead than the other countries in the area.

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Sweden has 244 deaths per million population compared to the US's 183.

I question anyone who points to Sweden as a success story.
 
2020-04-29 3:37:27 PM  
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2020-04-29 3:38:15 PM  

Aquapope: That's more than when Obama took office, isn't it?  Gonna be tough campaigning on employment numbers now, huh Donnie?


It was the one thing he had going for him that would appeal to people outside his base. Baring another wave happening next fall things should be more or less back to normal by then, people are still going to remember this, but he might have a narrow shot. If things aren't back to normal by October he pretty much has no hope of winning
 
2020-04-29 3:40:06 PM  

Aquapope: lolmao500: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

LOL. What about the gov/state tell banks to suspend all rent/mortgage payments for the next 6 months without interest or else they lose their business license and get their assets seized?

That may be a little heavy handed, but it sure would shake loose the libertarians and gun nuts from the Trump train, I think.  It plays into the gubbmint is taking my rights dialog.


Fark em. Whoever shills or protect the banks stealing from everybody deserve to end up dead or in jail
 
2020-04-29 3:43:05 PM  

Mail Order American Husband: Aquapope: That's more than when Obama took office, isn't it?  Gonna be tough campaigning on employment numbers now, huh Donnie?

It was the one thing he had going for him that would appeal to people outside his base. Baring another wave happening next fall things should be more or less back to normal by then, people are still going to remember this, but he might have a narrow shot. If things aren't back to normal by October he pretty much has no hope of winning


There's still the unknown of how effective Russian interference and GOP voter suppression will be.  Polls could show Biden up by 10 points the day before the election and I still won't be comfortable until Joe is sworn in.
 
2020-04-29 4:06:38 PM  
It's hard for the government to tell who is really unemployed until we have wide-spread testing.  Until then, it's safer to assume that everyone around you is unemployed.
 
2020-04-29 4:12:25 PM  
I figured the nefarious liberal media would release the real numbers about the Obama recession right when Trump has the virus beat.
 
2020-04-29 4:16:58 PM  

Shaggy_C: someonelse: Shaggy_C: Are you starting to see why people are demanding to reopen the economy? At some point the "cure" is indeed worse than the disease.

What happens if the economy reopens now? Are people going to flock to movies, restaurants, etc.? Are they going to run out and buy houses and cars?

Look at Sweden; business is down thanks to voluntary social distancing measures, but the economy isn't entirely stopped. Eventually things are going to have to open up; the question is how much economic pain must be inflicted before it does. Those same people who would die of The disease today will still die in 6 months anyways.


Looking at Sweden is not a good idea. People there are pissed at chosen policy. Their death count is 5-10x per capita over their neighboring Scandinavian nations (Finland, Denmark, Norway and Iceland; all of whom are headed by women). And their economy is not much better off than others.

Again, what benefits are there to "opening the economy" here in the US? What do you need (not "want") now? At the moment, all "essential services" businesses are still open, so I can still go to the grocery, still go to a Walgreens. The only restaurants that are closed are the fancier high-end sit down restaurants with cloth napkin service. The lower-end ones are making do with offering take-out/delivery and people are using those options.

Need products? Order them online and have them delivered. Do you really need to go furniture buying? Really, really need to get a new set of kitchenware? Your hair is 1/2 inch too long? Can't do your own nails? Gotta go watch a movie? Gotta go see a baseball game?
 
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