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2020-04-28 6:20:33 PM  
This is what someone trying to take away your freedom and liberties actually looks like,
 
2020-04-28 6:22:22 PM  
Georgia and others are doing the same thing.  This isn't unique to Iowa and Texas
 
2020-04-28 6:23:35 PM  
Here's your answer to the logical question "but what if the meat packers refuse to work in unsafe conditions?"

They get "willfully separated" from their employer and will not be able to collect unemployment
 
2020-04-28 6:23:59 PM  

cretinbob: This is what someone trying to take away your freedom and liberties actually looks like,


Exactly.
 
2020-04-28 6:25:02 PM  
Meanwhile, here in MA, with a republican governor, we're not planning to do phase 1 reopening until at least May 14th.
 
2020-04-28 6:28:15 PM  
I'm pretty sure that union and labor attorneys will have a field day with these clowns.
 
2020-04-28 6:29:55 PM  
A person's a person, until they get in the way of shareholder profit
 
2020-04-28 6:30:44 PM  
You all didn't see this coming?

"We're open! Taking all due protection steps! You don't show, someone else will!"

I saw this at work weeks ago but it was worded "You're lucky to have a job - have you seen the unemployment numbers? Lots of people going to be looking for work....."
 
2020-04-28 6:36:14 PM  

Badmoodman: I'm pretty sure that union and labor attorneys will have a field day with these clowns.


"Right to work" states don't allow such tomfoolery.
 
2020-04-28 6:36:38 PM  
I wouldn't trust Trump to correctly sidestep current federal laws. They're going to believe him that they won't be held liable only to be swamped in litigation. And then they're going to be shocked to learn that Trump was actually wrong about something. Leopards always eat each others faces.
 
2020-04-28 6:38:18 PM  
But if you give everyone who doesn't return to work a free gun, we're all even here, right?
 
2020-04-28 6:39:19 PM  
'Murica.
 
2020-04-28 6:39:41 PM  
I said this two weeks ago that they wanted to open the states back up in order to kick people off of unemployment benefits. I wanted them to just tell it like it is...and now they are. That was fast.
 
2020-04-28 6:43:31 PM  

RainDawg: I wouldn't trust Trump to correctly sidestep current federal laws. They're going to believe him that they won't be held liable only to be swamped in litigation. And then they're going to be shocked to learn that Trump was actually wrong about something. Leopards always eat each others faces.


With all the shiat judges the Turtle has rubberstamped into office, there won't be a single suit that even gets to trial
 
2020-04-28 6:52:45 PM  
As an employer, if somebody didn't feel safe coming back to work, I sure as hell wouldn't force them.  It would be an easy conversation.

"Hey boss, I don't feel comfortable coming back to work right now"

"OK, no problem"

Since the person is already unemployed right now and filing biweekly claims, I don't do anything.  They've already put 'lack of work' as a reason they're not working right now.  I'd have to actually contest the claim which is not going to happen.

I would also say that the vast majority of employers in those states won't contest the unemployment claims either.  It really doesn't matter what either governor says.
 
2020-04-28 6:55:01 PM  
On another note, to be completely honest, I am NOT expecting business to return to the levels I would normally expect this time of year.  The reality is that if I'm lucky, I might be able to employ 2/3rds of the people depending on how business goes.

If anything, the people not returning to work might actually be helping the employer since they don't have to pick and choose who can come back and who can't.
 
2020-04-28 6:56:27 PM  

BunkyBrewman: I would also say that the vast majority of employers in those states won't contest the unemployment claims either.  It really doesn't matter what either governor says.


"Vast Majority" shouldn't be a metric for the right thing a Governor should do.

And yes...if you're part of non vast minority (as you say).....it does matter what the Governors say.
 
2020-04-28 6:59:11 PM  

Badmoodman: I'm pretty sure that union and labor attorneys will have a field day with these clowns.


You can only hope, but it won't matter.
We the people have no rights as workers. We gave up our Unions for ... not sure really. Why did we give up on Unions?
 
2020-04-28 7:13:28 PM  
Reynolds only got into power because Terry Brandstad was told by the Koch brothers to pick her as VP. As soon as he took office (thanks again, Iowa Democratic Party!), he f*cked off to become Trump's Ambassador to China, and thus is how Charles & David's puppet Governor took over.
 
2020-04-28 7:14:25 PM  
Hey, companies are people too.
 
2020-04-28 7:14:36 PM  

somedude210: Meanwhile, here in MA, with a republican governor, we're not planning to do phase 1 reopening until at least May 14th.


To be fair, Baker is a Republican in the same way Bernie is a Democrat
 
2020-04-28 7:21:11 PM  

BunkyBrewman: As an employer, if somebody didn't feel safe coming back to work, I sure as hell wouldn't force them.  It would be an easy conversation.

"Hey boss, I don't feel comfortable coming back to work right now"

"OK, no problem"

Since the person is already unemployed right now and filing biweekly claims, I don't do anything.  They've already put 'lack of work' as a reason they're not working right now.  I'd have to actually contest the claim which is not going to happen.

I would also say that the vast majority of employers in those states won't contest the unemployment claims either.  It really doesn't matter what either governor says.


First, I like your attitude/approach.  However, the government holds the pesos and they could make the at home employee jump threw hoops to prove their status of not being able to work like getting a letters/attestations from you.
 
2020-04-28 7:29:06 PM  
My boss: I'm going to need to need you to come into work tomorrow and cut some chickens 2 feet away from your co-workers with an certified masks

Me: I'm going to be there bright and early and I'm feeling much better.

Boss: You weren't feeling well

Me: nothing at all, just a low grade fever and some sneezing and congestion but I'm sure it is seasonal allergies

Boss: If you aren't feeling well, you need to get tested and see a doctor

Me: No problem boss, could I get a pay advance for that deductible or should I wait for that unemployment check to come in.  Apparently there is a bit of a wait for the test.

Boss: Just come in tomorrow or I'll say you quit

Me: no problem boss, I'll be in bright and early and send you an E-mail to confirm what we discussed

Boss:  E-mail?  For f$ck sakes.  Just stay until you are ready to come in.
 
2020-04-28 7:30:34 PM  

mrshowrules: My boss: I'm going to need to need you to come into work tomorrow and cut some chickens 2 feet away from your co-workers with non-certified an certified masks

Me: I'm going to be there bright and early and I'm feeling much better.

Boss: You weren't feeling well

Me: nothing at all, just a low grade fever and some sneezing and congestion but I'm sure it is seasonal allergies

Boss: If you aren't feeling well, you need to get tested and see a doctor

Me: No problem boss, could I get a pay advance for that deductible or should I wait for that unemployment check to come in.  Apparently there is a bit of a wait for the test.

Boss: Just come in tomorrow or I'll say you quit

Me: no problem boss, I'll be in bright and early and send you an E-mail to confirm what we discussed

Boss:  E-mail?  For f$ck sakes.  Just stay until you are ready to come in.

 
2020-04-28 7:48:40 PM  

sennoma: somedude210: Meanwhile, here in MA, with a republican governor, we're not planning to do phase 1 reopening until at least May 14th.

To be fair, Baker is a Republican in the same way Bernie is a Democrat


eeeeeh, he's still fairly pro-business. He's just not into drinking the death cult flavor-aid. and, you know, believes in basic human rights for everyone regardless of race, creed, color, or political affiliation (exception being nazis)

We have Polito for that (and she's *still* more sane than most of the national cultists)
 
2020-04-28 8:09:36 PM  
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2020-04-28 8:09:45 PM  

somedude210: Here's your answer to the logical question "but what if the meat packers refuse to work in unsafe conditions?"

They get "willfully separated" from their employer and will not be able to collect unemployment


And then someone goes pro bono with a bunch of constructive dismissal lawsuits.
 
2020-04-28 8:57:56 PM  
Well, you put assholes into office enough times, you got to wonder who the assholes really are.
 
2020-04-28 9:16:26 PM  
Fark all the Republican governors.
Except Dewine in Ohio.  He seems to be doing alright.
 
2020-04-28 9:18:34 PM  

somedude210: Meanwhile, here in MA, with a republican governor, we're not planning to do phase 1 reopening until at least May 14th.


That's not the 'Rona so much as barbers just don't want to hear y'all biatching and moaning about losing Tawwwwwwwwmmy.
 
2020-04-28 9:19:11 PM  
Are they going to start forcing people to be customers too?
 
2020-04-28 9:19:33 PM  
And this is why I didn't "feel lucky" to be considered "essential" in my job that puts me into contact with thousands of people in public spaces... Because my employer said, basically, "You can choose not to work. Just tell your supervisor and they will arrange for someone else to take over your duties temporarily."

But I'm like-- Riiiight. "Temporarily." Suuure. I believe you.

So I face the horror show instead, in hopes that when this shiatstorm blows over, I'll still have a job.
 
2020-04-28 9:20:22 PM  

Badmoodman: I'm pretty sure that union and labor attorneys will have a field day with these clowns.


I just realized it's funny how all these so-called pro-lifers are anti-labor.

/I was born on labor day and my jokes never got better
 
2020-04-28 9:21:00 PM  

optikeye: Badmoodman: I'm pretty sure that union and labor attorneys will have a field day with these clowns.

"Right to work" states don't allow such tomfoolery.


But don't forget, it's the evil workers' unions that are out to get the common man, unlike the glorious corporations that only have your best interests at heart.

[Blink] This is what GOPers actually believe [/Blink]
 
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2020-04-28 9:21:14 PM  

Catlenfell: Fark all the Republican governors.
Except Dewine in Ohio.  He seems to be doing alright.


Indiana's Holcomb has been better than most and shown some independence.  He, however, is going to open the state too early too.
 
2020-04-28 9:21:23 PM  
*stares Upton Sinclairily*
 
2020-04-28 9:21:33 PM  

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This is literally the stance of the plague rats.

Pogrom the right wing.
 
2020-04-28 9:22:31 PM  
Remember this in November (where applicable).
 
2020-04-28 9:22:31 PM  
Abbot is paralyzed, so I'm not sure he could get it up much less fark himself.
 
2020-04-28 9:26:15 PM  
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2020-04-28 9:26:23 PM  
I assume every lawyer who read that tweet is currently jizzing their pants at the amount of liability those state governments just heaped upon themselves.
 
2020-04-28 9:26:48 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: Abbot is paralyzed, so I'm not sure he could get it up much less fark himself.


I'd let him borrow an exoskeleton for one day, but only if he used it to go fark himself then he can go right back on the cart since the farker doesn't deserve legs or a wheelchair.

Actually scratch that, he can drag himself along the ground by his fingernails, let's give the exoskeleton to Ripley to fight the aliens
 
2020-04-28 9:27:44 PM  
I hope there are some Iowa state workers who have caught the bug.

And I really hope that they cut their quarantine short and show up at the Capitol for work saying they aren't voluntarily quitting anything . And then refuse to leave when they are ordered to.

And spit on every motherfarkin' republican they can spot when they get drug out.

I hate that coont.
 
2020-04-28 9:28:20 PM  
I got "terminated" before the first confirmed case in my state... about a week after I got over it.

Well, I say "it" because apparently you didn't get a test unless you were deathly ill coming into the ER. And that was after the first confirmed cases.

I would have tested negative anyway because it was way too soon when I was told to go get a test.
 
2020-04-28 9:28:45 PM  
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2020-04-28 9:28:56 PM  

BunkyBrewman: I would also say that the vast majority of employers in those states won't contest the unemployment claims either.


LOL you're delusional
 
2020-04-28 9:28:59 PM  

Brat E. Pants: *stares Upton Sinclairily*


I can picture both him and Orwell at a bar right now, both looking down at this and saying 'What a bunch of assholes...'

They'd say 'Christ...', but Jésus is too busy making sangrias.
 
2020-04-28 9:29:03 PM  
And to go along with this Republicans want to legislate away any liability on the part of the employer while also opposing mandatory paid sick leave. What about workers' compensation laws?  Will those laws still apply?
 
2020-04-28 9:29:55 PM  
Well what do you silly hippies expect? If your job re-opens and you aren't there, someone else will be. You're on your own. But that's what you wanted, right? To live off the land and to leave behind only footprints. Have fun living that terrible life.
 
2020-04-28 9:30:37 PM  
Its cause the state trust funds for unemployment are probably empty and/or never replenished from the last crisis.  We are going to find out a lot of wacky accounting bs going on with those funds especially in republican run states.  All the yearly audits are going to look like jokes and will put the entire accounting analysis confidence to the question.  Thus, these republican led states are desperately trying to kick people off the rolls so they dont have to have the "uh oh i didnt have the money i said i had" moment.
 
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