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(Vice)   UFO Videos "Only scratch the surface" of what the Pentagon knows according to conspira... I mean former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid   (vice.com) divider line
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2020-04-28 3:58:33 PM  
I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.
 
2020-04-28 4:00:23 PM  
The plans for the imminent culling of your planet are none of your concern at this time.
 
2020-04-28 4:01:59 PM  

AstroJesus: The plans for the imminent culling of your planet are none of your concern at this time.


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2020-04-28 4:03:50 PM  

Glorious Golden Ass: I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.


Most thinking people can't take seriously anyone with that closed of a mind. I'd say Reid and the US Navy are fairly credible sources.
 
2020-04-28 4:05:26 PM  

AstroJesus: The plans for the imminent culling of your planet are none of your concern at this time.


Hyperspace bypass.
Plans...basement, locked door, "Beware of Leopard"
 
2020-04-28 4:09:16 PM  
Tom DeLonge got fat?  Say it ain't so.  Who's going to carry his fatass home?
 
2020-04-28 4:09:45 PM  
Can't this wait until Friday.  Calendar is getting spooky.

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2020-04-28 4:10:16 PM  
A) It's some new fangled Skunkworks project the Air Force/Lockheed/etc doesn't want to get out yet.
B) It's some new fangled Skunkworks project the Russians/Chinese/etc is testing and the Air Force hasn't learned everything about it yet.
C) Some Federation cowboy captain is farking around w/ the Temporal Directive again, those dumb farks.
 
2020-04-28 4:25:19 PM  

Luse: Glorious Golden Ass: I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.

Most thinking people can't take seriously anyone with that closed of a mind. I'd say Reid and the US Navy are fairly credible sources.


There are easily debunked. "Go fast" is a weather balloon floating at about 40kts if you do the trig, the spinning one is just a normal jet plume and it appears to be rotating because the lens on the camera is rotating as it tracks.

C'mon guys it doesn't take a lot of effort to reason through the relative likelihood of something being aliens vs being a smudged camera lens
 
2020-04-28 4:27:49 PM  

mathamagical: Luse: Glorious Golden Ass: I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.

Most thinking people can't take seriously anyone with that closed of a mind. I'd say Reid and the US Navy are fairly credible sources.

There are easily debunked. "Go fast" is a weather balloon floating at about 40kts if you do the trig, the spinning one is just a normal jet plume and it appears to be rotating because the lens on the camera is rotating as it tracks.

C'mon guys it doesn't take a lot of effort to reason through the relative likelihood of something being aliens vs being a smudged camera lens


Found em, originally posted on arstechnica:

MikeNiSeniorius Lurkius
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I love how these videos keep getting presented without any real analysis by supposedly reputable sources.
These videos are the sort of thing I would have expected Ars to break down in the past, it does not take a particularly rigorous analysis to show just how mundane they are. Here are some videos of less credulous people analyzing them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Btns​9​1W5J8&t=7s1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLyEO​0​jNt6M&t=20s2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1oTg​0​kxzDs3
 
2020-04-28 4:37:51 PM  
Pendulum - Granite (Official Video)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1​SBhrg​ScaGw
 
2020-04-28 4:47:28 PM  
I've never liked those videos. Reasons:

1. The objects look like burn in. Rotation of the object could be optics being adjusted.
2. It tracks too perfectly. No wing bobble. No target flight path variation. No range variation.

It's just too perfect.
 
2020-04-28 4:52:50 PM  

edmo: I've never liked those videos. Reasons:

1. The objects look like burn in. Rotation of the object could be optics being adjusted.
2. It tracks too perfectly. No wing bobble. No target flight path variation. No range variation.

It's just too perfect.


You should have the entire Pentagon fired, then. They've admitted the videos are real and unedited, last I checked.
 
2020-04-28 4:53:18 PM  

bluenovaman: Can't this wait until Friday.  Calendar is getting spooky.

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I look forward to seeing people post this image for the rest of the year.  It will be fresh and exciting.
 
2020-04-28 4:59:18 PM  

Shryke: edmo: I've never liked those videos. Reasons:

1. The objects look like burn in. Rotation of the object could be optics being adjusted.
2. It tracks too perfectly. No wing bobble. No target flight path variation. No range variation.

It's just too perfect.

You should have the entire Pentagon fired, then. They've admitted the videos are real and unedited, last I checked.


Edmo, take a look at the video breakdowns I posted. The "perfect rotation" of the objects is indeed almost certainly burn in or other damage to the lens, the video breakdowns shows that the rotation is all from the camera itself and not the object.

I assume the Pentagon routinely gets stuff like this from pilots who see weird quirks on their sensors and file it in the round file rather than commenting publicly on the design details of the lenses and imaging systems.
 
2020-04-28 5:04:24 PM  
You guys should go watch the interview of the pilot on joe rogan show on youtube.
 
2020-04-28 5:10:11 PM  
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Self Promotion
 
2020-04-28 5:11:56 PM  
My thoughts, since you all asked, are if aliens developed the technology to GET here, you'd think they'd have developed the technology to hide themselves a little better.
 
2020-04-28 5:16:45 PM  

buntz: My thoughts, since you all asked, are if aliens developed the technology to GET here, you'd think they'd have developed the technology to hide themselves a little better.


"our fighter planes are a generation ahead of the enemies, with our stealth technology they'll be nearly invisible to their sensors"

"Aliens who have mastered interstellar travel won't be capable of defeating current gen thermal sensors"

Hmm... You might be on to something...
 
2020-04-28 6:18:35 PM  
Fire the entire Pentagon.
 
2020-04-28 6:19:50 PM  
Ok i am not a subscriber to any of this kinda of stuff. But i do have one very good story to tell from this field.

It is not my story, it is the story of a good friend of mine who passed early in life many years ago now.
he was a good bit older than i when we met at a job, but we hit it off very well as he was the other artsy eccentric in that office.


His story is from when he was a teenager still, and went like this:

My dad was a an air force Colonel, and he was hard man that didn't make or understand jokes. He died when i was 20, but I was so afraid of him i was 22 before i started cutting lose without fearing he would snatch my head off from beyond the grave.

So one night i was up late watching a midnight b movie on tv when i was about 16. My dad had woken up and came stumbling into the room half awake, and for a moment i thought i was about to be i some trouble for waking him up.
But right then the tv screen cuts to a shot of a flying saucer in the b movie, and my dad saw it.
He looked at me and said
"the government knows more than they well ever tell David."
and then turned around and shuffled out of the room back to bed.


Not that story made me see the world any differently than i already do, but it is to me still an interesting story if for nothing more than it merits being treated as a true story for my experience.

But i personally find that without breaking the known physics of the universe, the natural order of the universe makes for a serious case of social isolation, for any species that understands what it is looking at, when it looks at the stars.
 
2020-04-28 6:22:28 PM  
I watched those videos and they were pretty cool. The pilots weren't faking it when they freaked out, since they'd never seen anything like it.
 
2020-04-28 6:22:35 PM  

mathamagical: Luse: Glorious Golden Ass: I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.

Most thinking people can't take seriously anyone with that closed of a mind. I'd say Reid and the US Navy are fairly credible sources.

There are easily debunked. "Go fast" is a weather balloon floating at about 40kts if you do the trig, the spinning one is just a normal jet plume and it appears to be rotating because the lens on the camera is rotating as it tracks.

C'mon guys it doesn't take a lot of effort to reason through the relative likelihood of something being aliens vs being a smudged camera lens


Two trained Navy pilots don't think it's a gas plume, sensors on board capture data that no gas plume generates but rando on the intertubes thinks it's "easily debunked".

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2020-04-28 6:36:24 PM  
Oh man, I can only assume what my ex's Grandfather would be saying if I was still in that family.
Paul Hellyer is one of the nicest and most intelligent people I've met, even at his age. He's kept his mental capacities.
However, his take on Aliens...  Lol.
Well I was warned when I went to his residence for the first time to NOT bring up the topic and if I did it's at my own risk and I've been for warned.
Other than that, the man had amazing stories of actual world events he was part of.
 
2020-04-28 6:49:42 PM  

bluenovaman: Can't this wait until Friday.  Calendar is getting spooky.

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Gotta fit this guy in somewhere...
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2020-04-28 6:53:46 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: Luse: Glorious Golden Ass: I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.

Most thinking people can't take seriously anyone with that closed of a mind. I'd say Reid and the US Navy are fairly credible sources.

There are easily debunked. "Go fast" is a weather balloon floating at about 40kts if you do the trig, the spinning one is just a normal jet plume and it appears to be rotating because the lens on the camera is rotating as it tracks.

C'mon guys it doesn't take a lot of effort to reason through the relative likelihood of something being aliens vs being a smudged camera lens

Two trained Navy pilots don't think it's a gas plume, sensors on board capture data that no gas plume generates but rando on the intertubes thinks it's "easily debunked".

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Because none of them are gas fumes?

Pilots are multitasking a lot of different things, they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera on it then observed it through the same camera view we saw on video. It's a pretty small screen and the pilot has to watch and make a judgement in real time while flying the plane, they don't get to sit down and rerun the video in slow motion while playing with Photoshop filters to realize that it's just glare in the camera pod rotating with the lens. The video makes it pretty obvious that's where the rotation comes from because it clearly moves along with the other lens artifacts.

I don't fault the pilots at all for seeing something that they couldn't explain and reporting it. I don't blame the Navy for filing it under "we don't know what this is but don't care enough to investigate either." I blame people who run with conspiracies instead of looking for simple and boring explanations.

Seriously sit through all three videos and get back to me. The guy recreates all of them with some really straightforward math and video compression.

Go fast has all the tracking info visible, do you not agree with the math?

In the third video the guy doing the Videos even gives a specific example of where trained pilots using an ir video had a really similar "ufo" that was easily explained once someone pointed out that it was probably just their range estimation being wrong. That's clearly the case in the "go fast" video for example, the pilot incorrectly assumes it's a very large object flying very close to the surface of the water very fast when it's actually just parallax created by the camera tracking an object that is much higher (and closer) than he guesses it is.

I'm not telling you the Navy guys aren't sharp, but I am saying it doesn't stretch credibility that guys trying to read tiny displays while piloting a jet at 600mph might get things wrong from time to time.

Do you genuinely think "aliens" is a more credible explanation than "guy mistakes camera glare for object?"
 
2020-04-28 7:10:09 PM  

mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera


Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.
 
2020-04-28 7:17:44 PM  

mathamagical: Luse: Glorious Golden Ass: I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.

Most thinking people can't take seriously anyone with that closed of a mind. I'd say Reid and the US Navy are fairly credible sources.

There are easily debunked. "Go fast" is a weather balloon floating at about 40kts if you do the trig, the spinning one is just a normal jet plume and it appears to be rotating because the lens on the camera is rotating as it tracks.

C'mon guys it doesn't take a lot of effort to reason through the relative likelihood of something being aliens vs being a smudged camera lens


These were F18s with upgraded FLIR systems, so granted, it could have been an anomaly, but TWO aircraft were tracking this same object. Additionally, pilots are on record saying one of these UFOs flew between two F18s at high speed and looked like a "cube suspended inside a sphere".

Navy pilots--and those trusted to test out new weapons/avionics systems--are chosen based on their intelligence and personal performance/ethic, not on their ability to make up UFO stories.
 
2020-04-28 7:18:12 PM  
Harry Reed is my porn name.
 
2020-04-28 7:18:14 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.


which video are you talking about? Youre going to have to be specific if you want me to sit here and explain it to you.
 
2020-04-28 7:22:38 PM  

fastfxr: mathamagical: Luse: Glorious Golden Ass: I refuse to take seriously anybody who takes this seriously.

Most thinking people can't take seriously anyone with that closed of a mind. I'd say Reid and the US Navy are fairly credible sources.

There are easily debunked. "Go fast" is a weather balloon floating at about 40kts if you do the trig, the spinning one is just a normal jet plume and it appears to be rotating because the lens on the camera is rotating as it tracks.

C'mon guys it doesn't take a lot of effort to reason through the relative likelihood of something being aliens vs being a smudged camera lens

These were F18s with upgraded FLIR systems, so granted, it could have been an anomaly, but TWO aircraft were tracking this same object. Additionally, pilots are on record saying one of these UFOs flew between two F18s at high speed and looked like a "cube suspended inside a sphere".

Navy pilots--and those trusted to test out new weapons/avionics systems--are chosen based on their intelligence and personal performance/ethic, not on their ability to make up UFO stories.


Look, the video is pretty easy to explain without invoking "aliens" now I dont know what the pilots saw, or thought they saw, but you have to apply some rational thought here. Youre saying you find it hard to believe that two F18 crews could be confused and its easier for you to believe that there are aliens capable of interstellar travel who happened to pop in to have a quick buzz over our ocean, but couldnt evade an F-18's FLIR system. That isnt an analytical approach that is going to get you too far. Believe what you want to believe, but these videos clearly dont show anything that isnt easy to explain without aliens.
 
2020-04-28 7:23:47 PM  
 
2020-04-28 7:28:14 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.


And again, not only have I seen the videos, I've linked you here to additional videos that go through the original videos and explain them in simple terms. Your only answer is "aliens" and you refuse to sit through a basic explanation of why the video doesnt show anything interesting.
 
2020-04-28 7:34:36 PM  

mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.

which video are you talking about? Youre going to have to be specific if you want me to sit here and explain it to you.


Why don't you watch the first one released. It includes the radio transmissions between both pilots. You can also watch any of the myriad of interviews with one of the pilots himself, he was on Rogan's podcast talking about it recently.
 
2020-04-28 7:35:50 PM  

mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.

And again, not only have I seen the videos, I've linked you here to additional videos that go through the original videos and explain them in simple terms. Your only answer is "aliens" and you refuse to sit through a basic explanation of why the video doesnt show anything interesting.


I've made no such claim. You however have claimed vapor trails which is patently bullshiat.

Answer this. Why would the Navy create such a hoax? Try doing it without sounding paranoid.
 
2020-04-28 7:38:06 PM  

Truck Fump: AstroJesus: The plans for the imminent culling of your planet are none of your concern at this time.

Hyperspace bypass.
Plans...basement, locked door, "Beware of Leopard"


Should I put a paper bag over my head or something?
 
2020-04-28 7:42:49 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Truck Fump: AstroJesus: The plans for the imminent culling of your planet are none of your concern at this time.

Hyperspace bypass.
Plans...basement, locked door, "Beware of Leopard"

Should I put a paper bag over my head or something?


If you like.
 
2020-04-28 7:42:59 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.


and just to throw this out there, my quote was exactly correct:

" Princeton's radio operator directly instructed the pilots to change their course and investigate the unidentified radar spot observed by Princeton's own radar.[ "

Actually the best evidence Ive seen for this being a UFO and not just being a quirk is that Donald Trump has stated "I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly. " and he is wrong about almost everything.

Dude, just watch the videos I posted. Its okay, they wont change your mind because youve decided that its aliens, but at least consider other possible explanations.

Or dont, this is the internet after all, do what you like
 
2020-04-28 7:45:47 PM  

mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.

and just to throw this out there, my quote was exactly correct:

" Princeton's radio operator directly instructed the pilots to change their course and investigate the unidentified radar spot observed by Princeton's own radar.[ "

Actually the best evidence Ive seen for this being a UFO and not just being a quirk is that Donald Trump has stated "I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly. " and he is wrong about almost everything.

Dude, just watch the videos I posted. Its okay, they wont change your mind because youve decided that its aliens, but at least consider other possible explanations.

Or dont, this is the internet after all, do what you like


"Dude", you're not even consistent with yourself. Earlier you were opining about how the pilot doesn't have time to pay that close attention to the instruments. In this quote you mention a RIO who's primary job is to do just that.

You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about and claiming to be an expert. Just stop.
 
2020-04-28 7:49:02 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.

And again, not only have I seen the videos, I've linked you here to additional videos that go through the original videos and explain them in simple terms. Your only answer is "aliens" and you refuse to sit through a basic explanation of why the video doesnt show anything interesting.

I've made no such claim. You however have claimed vapor trails which is patently bullshiat.

Answer this. Why would the Navy create such a hoax? Try doing it without sounding paranoid.


Go Find me where i claimed vapor trails, that is patently bullshiat which is why i never made that claim.

Why would the navy create such a hoax? What hoax, the navy didnt create any hoax, they took down a report of an unexplained observation by the pilot then released it. Theres no hoax there, the navy isnt obliged to look into every odd report they get, and like I said I have no trouble believing this one went through whatever the normal process is for these reports, got to a competent person who said "that looks like glare, toss it" and that was the end of that. Even if the navy did care enough to internally investigate and debunk it they certainly wouldnt be releasing a detailed account of how the targeting and radar systems in the aircraft work and following it up by discrediting one of their pilots.

The pilot saw something weird, people see weird shiat. The pilot captured a blurry video on flir, people capture blurry videos of weird shiat all the time. Every time it turns out to be something boring like a streetlight or a jet that is further that the pilot thinks, or a weatherballoon that is closer than the pilot thinks.

Lets stick to the easiest one for now, gofast, watch this video and tell me you still think it was aliens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLyEO​0​jNt6M
 
2020-04-28 7:54:03 PM  

mathamagical: the navy isnt obliged to look into every odd report they get,


Morbidly stupid statement. You don't think the Navy "looked into" footage from Navy aircraft that were testing brand new highly classified avionics? And you expect me to take you seriously?

mathamagical: The pilot saw something weird, people see weird shiat. The pilot captured a blurry video on flir, people capture blurry videos of weird shiat all the time.


So you think the state of the art avionics are blurry as shiat? You do realize the resolution on the video is significantly lowered specifically so it doesn't show the full capability of the system, right? No?


Seriously dude, stop. You're farking laughable. You have NO idea how any of this works.
 
2020-04-28 7:54:21 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.

and just to throw this out there, my quote was exactly correct:

" Princeton's radio operator directly instructed the pilots to change their course and investigate the unidentified radar spot observed by Princeton's own radar.[ "

Actually the best evidence Ive seen for this being a UFO and not just being a quirk is that Donald Trump has stated "I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly. " and he is wrong about almost everything.

Dude, just watch the videos I posted. Its okay, they wont change your mind because youve decided that its aliens, but at least consider other possible explanations.

Or dont, this is the internet after all, do what you like

"Dude", you're not even consistent with yourself. Earlier you were opining about how the pilot doesn't have time to pay that close attention to the instruments. In this quote you mention a RIO who's primary job is to do just that.

You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about and claiming to be an expert. Just stop.


Oh my god are you just trying to run a bullshiat asymmetry principle game on me?

Are the Princeton's RIO and the pilot the same guy? Hell of a guy if he can be two places at once isnt he? No the RIO saw a RADAR signature and asked the PILOT to FLY OVER THERE and TAKE A GANDER WITH HIS LOOKENPEEPERS, from 40 miles away the PILOT either used his SPECIAL EYES to observe an object the pilot reported was ~30'-46' long. or he saw a speck and then looked at the DISPLAY. Either way all we have is the video display to review.

Where am I claiming to be an expert? This doesnt take any expertise to debunk, thats my point.
 
2020-04-28 7:55:37 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: the navy isnt obliged to look into every odd report they get,

Morbidly stupid statement. You don't think the Navy "looked into" footage from Navy aircraft that were testing brand new highly classified avionics? And you expect me to take you seriously?

mathamagical: The pilot saw something weird, people see weird shiat. The pilot captured a blurry video on flir, people capture blurry videos of weird shiat all the time.

So you think the state of the art avionics are blurry as shiat? You do realize the resolution on the video is significantly lowered specifically so it doesn't show the full capability of the system, right? No?


Seriously dude, stop. You're farking laughable. You have NO idea how any of this works.


Ok, you got me, i didnt realize you were just trolling. Well done.
 
2020-04-28 8:01:12 PM  

mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.

and just to throw this out there, my quote was exactly correct:

" Princeton's radio operator directly instructed the pilots to change their course and investigate the unidentified radar spot observed by Princeton's own radar.[ "

Actually the best evidence Ive seen for this being a UFO and not just being a quirk is that Donald Trump has stated "I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly. " and he is wrong about almost everything.

Dude, just watch the videos I posted. Its okay, they wont change your mind because youve decided that its aliens, but at least consider other possible explanations.

Or dont, this is the internet after all, do what you like

"Dude", you're not even consistent with yourself. Earlier you were opining about how the pilot doesn't have time to pay that close attention to the instruments. In this quote you mention a RIO who's primary job is to do just that.

You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about and claiming to be an expert. Just stop.

Oh my god are you just trying to run a bullshiat asymmetry principle game on me?

Are the Princeton's RIO and the pilot the same guy? Hell of a guy if he can be two places at once isnt he? No the RIO saw a RADAR signature and asked the PILOT to FLY OVER THERE and TAKE A GANDER WITH HIS LOOKENPEEPERS, from 40 miles away the PILOT either used his SPECIAL EYES to observe an object the pilot reported was ~30'-46' long. or he saw a speck and then looked at the DISPLAY. Either ...


So the Princeton's radar saw it. The aircraft radar saw it, and so did the wingman's. Sounds like 3 separate sources...I wonder what that's called. Radar is also quite capable to measure both heading and velocity...

You claim the Navy didn't release a statement? Then what would you call this?

"
The Navy previously acknowledged the authenticity of the footage, with officials going as far as drafting guidelines in 2019 to establish a formal process for pilots and military personnel to report UFO sightings - a move made following a surge in what the Navy called a series of intrusions by advanced aircraft on Navy carrier strike groups.
While this development was announced sans admission of the existence of alien life, it signals a return to DoD acknowledgement that the series of recently documented encounters at least warrant further investigation.
In fact, so prevalent was DoD's interest in tracking the phenomena years ago that it established a program inside the Pentagon solely dedicated to investigating reports of UFO sightings."
 
2020-04-28 8:07:31 PM  

Luse: mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: Luse: mathamagical: they most likely saw something on the radar and tried to get the camera

Stopped reading right there. You DO know there is actual audio of the conversation and them talking about what they are doing, precisely? If not educate yourself. Again, rando speculating on the intertubes without even bothering to watch the videos, or listen to interviews with the pilots themselves makes you not only not credible, but laughable.

and just to throw this out there, my quote was exactly correct:

" Princeton's radio operator directly instructed the pilots to change their course and investigate the unidentified radar spot observed by Princeton's own radar.[ "

Actually the best evidence Ive seen for this being a UFO and not just being a quirk is that Donald Trump has stated "I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly. " and he is wrong about almost everything.

Dude, just watch the videos I posted. Its okay, they wont change your mind because youve decided that its aliens, but at least consider other possible explanations.

Or dont, this is the internet after all, do what you like

"Dude", you're not even consistent with yourself. Earlier you were opining about how the pilot doesn't have time to pay that close attention to the instruments. In this quote you mention a RIO who's primary job is to do just that.

You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about and claiming to be an expert. Just stop.

Oh my god are you just trying to run a bullshiat asymmetry principle game on me?

Are the Princeton's RIO and the pilot the same guy? Hell of a guy if he can be two places at once isnt he? No the RIO saw a RADAR signature and asked the PILOT to FLY OVER THERE and TAKE A GANDER WITH HIS LOOKENPEEPERS, from 40 miles away the PILOT either used his SPECIAL EYES to observe an object the pilot reported was ~30'-46' long. or he saw a speck and then looked at the D ...


Your density is pretty impressive.

They saw something on radar then the captured something on flir, thats pretty good evidence something was there. The fact that something was there doesnt mean it was anything interesting. I know im pissing into the wind because you refuse to watch it, but heres a breakdown of that video (weve finally deduced that you are talking about Nimtz and not GoFast or Gimbal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1oTg​0​kxzDs )

The video I linked you compared the nimtz footage to a simulation of a bog standard passenger jet with similar distance, backlight, and resolution. Shocker it looks the same. Then the video even shows that the aircraft doesnt "zoom off" it just stays in the same spot while the flir pod loses track of the vehicle.

So we have a video that shows nothing interesting attached to a pilot reporting that he saw a tic tac in the same location moving erratically (but apparently failed to capture any of that erratic movement on any video system.)
 
2020-04-28 8:11:03 PM  
Again, you keep harping about a rando commenting on youtube, I post links to official statements and sources (which you claim never happened). I'm done with you.
 
2020-04-28 8:43:22 PM  

Luse: Again, you keep harping about a rando commenting on youtube, I post links to official statements and sources (which you claim never happened). I'm done with you.


Fair enough! You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it think!
 
2020-04-29 12:05:33 AM  

Trocadero: A) It's some new fangled Skunkworks project the Air Force/Lockheed/etc doesn't want to get out yet.
B) It's some new fangled Skunkworks project the Russians/Chinese/etc is testing and the Air Force hasn't learned everything about it yet.
C) Some Federation cowboy captain is farking around w/ the Temporal Directive again, those dumb farks.


Quantum drive skid marks. That's why they all of a sudden take off in a weird direction, future earth isn't in the same spot as past earth. Also why we see them in remote areas, safety. You don't fire up your drive in a populated area. You could cook your ancestors.
 
2020-04-29 3:15:56 AM  
So, I think aliens are controlling both Luse and Mathamagical.
 
2020-04-29 3:41:59 AM  

mathamagical: Luse: Again, you keep harping about a rando commenting on youtube, I post links to official statements and sources (which you claim never happened). I'm done with you.

Fair enough! You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it think!


If you're not willing to address official statements made on official sites why in the fark would any sane person entertain your rando youtube videos? Seriously?

WTF is wrong with you?
 
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