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2020-04-25 7:37:19 AM  
Of course.
 
2020-04-25 7:41:19 AM  
 
2020-04-25 8:11:17 AM  
And, behind the gun lobby, Vladimir Putin?
 
2020-04-25 8:49:15 AM  
What does the US gun lobby have against the lockdown anyway? Do they not realise that if millions of people die from the virus, there'll be fewer people either to buy guns or to shoot them at?
 
2020-04-25 8:53:15 AM  

I Ate Shergar: What does the US gun lobby have against the lockdown anyway? Do they not realise that if millions of people die from the virus, there'll be fewer people either to buy guns or to shoot them at?


I think they're also against anything that reduces ammo usage.. like staying at home and not shooting people.
 
2020-04-25 9:00:55 AM  
Imagine if the next group of #blacklivesmatter protestors came marching up to the Capitol like that.
 
2020-04-25 10:00:07 AM  
If you're afraid of someone taking your guns, stop doing shiat that makes people want to take away your guns.
 
2020-04-25 10:00:59 AM  

MorgothsDishwasher: And, behind the gun lobby, Vladimir Putin?


It's going to be interesting to see what happens if the combined effects of the COVID-19 outbreak in Russia and the collapse of oil prices really seriously threaten Putin's survival, or even lead to his downfall.

I don't trust anyone who'd take over in that case any more than I trust Putin, but at the same time, I can't help thinking that it wouldn't be good in at least some ways.
 
2020-04-25 11:06:26 AM  

I Ate Shergar: What does the US gun lobby have against the lockdown anyway? Do they not realise that if millions of people die from the virus, there'll be fewer people either to buy guns or to shoot them at?


The gun lobby has absolutely nothing against the lockdown, specifically.  For the past several decades they've primarily been a funding/advertising wing of the Republican Party that is not bound by the more restrictive aspects of election & fundraising law.

Now, even with that said, during normal times, the gun lobby would probably just quietly sit this one out for two reasons. One: the people who run the gun lobby are anything but stupid, and surely realize that when this whole Trump train derails, they are going to need as much cover as possible to distance themselves from him (especially when it comes to the coronavirus stuff).  Two: If the gun lobby has any sort of political philosophy, it is heavily rooted in the whole textualist, federalist, states rights stuff, and being opposed to local governmental control of public health policy just totally flies in the face of their long-held public positions on the10th amendment.

However, this has been happening behind the scenes for a while now.
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/21/839999​1​78/secret-recording-reveals-nras-legal​-troubles-have-cost-the-organization-1​00-mill

It's a long story, but basically the gun lobby leadership is involved in a huge internecine squabble and they're absolutely hemorrhaging money.  No grand political vision, just a panicked cash grab.

Furthermore, there's a pretty good chance that multiple of the parties who have thus far been bitterly fighting each other mostly behind the scenes have all sorts of dirt regarding unethical or illegal behavior.  If one or more of these parties reaches the "no-farks-left-to-give" stage, or feels like they're not getting enough of a payday on the way out, they could potentially go public and blow the whole thing up.

I live in a red state, own guns, and like to hunt and fish.  As such, a notable amount of my on-line and real-life friends and acquaintances have political views that are very...different from mine.  I was also rather involved in competitive shooting as a youth and even had an NRA membership for a time.  Many years later, I'm still on those mailing lists and get the political and fundraising literature.  I'll spare you all the details, but even in normal times these are all a steady source of cognitive dissonance, which I am long-accustomed to seeing.  These days it's just truly mind boggling.
 
2020-04-25 11:08:29 AM  
It's not so much a gun lobby as a gun vestibule.
 
2020-04-25 11:27:28 AM  
They're foundationally compelled to kill as many Americans as possible. That's just what you get with fetishising a murder weapon. Kids don't join the Parrot Association and want to peck people to death; murder toys just bring out the worst in people.

/Wouldn't mind a few murderous African Greys to deal with these farks, though.
 
2020-04-25 11:39:11 AM  
I noticed that these NRA types who are legendarily known for being anti-federal government and pro states rights are having rallies and protests targeting..... state governments.

Hmm.

I wonder why they suddenly aren't protesting the federal government anymore. They have their guns, they have their 2nd Amendment, but when it's go time... they have nothing to say. Nothing at all.

It's almost as if something has changed. What could that be?

And I wonder what they'll do when a Democratic President takes office next January.

HMMMMMMMMMMMM.
 
2020-04-25 11:49:10 AM  
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2020-04-25 11:54:55 AM  
Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?
 
2020-04-25 11:55:04 AM  
It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison
 
2020-04-25 11:56:06 AM  
How are these protesters allowed to have semi-automatic weapons on the steps of state capitol buildings?  You couldn't do that at the White House; the Secret Service would be all over you.  How can they do it at the state buildings, or in front of governors' mansions?
 
2020-04-25 11:56:43 AM  
I guess that tax on bullets can pay for the damage.
 
2020-04-25 11:57:00 AM  

edmo: Imagine if the next group of #blacklivesmatter protestors came marching up to the Capitol like that.


https://naaga.co
 
2020-04-25 11:58:43 AM  

OldRod: How are these protesters allowed to have semi-automatic weapons on the steps of state capitol buildings?  You couldn't do that at the White House; the Secret Service would be all over you.  How can they do it at the state buildings, or in front of governors' mansions?


Um ,they white.
 
2020-04-25 11:59:10 AM  

Purple_Urkle: It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison


That picture has an "anything's a dildo if you're brave enough" vibe...
 
2020-04-25 11:59:56 AM  

alechemist: OldRod: How are these protesters allowed to have semi-automatic weapons on the steps of state capitol buildings?  You couldn't do that at the White House; the Secret Service would be all over you.  How can they do it at the state buildings, or in front of governors' mansions?

Um ,they white.


Oh, yeah, I should have known that

Carry on...
 
2020-04-25 12:01:56 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


A poor attempt at a Motorized Patriot cosplay?
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2020-04-25 12:03:06 PM  

I Ate Shergar: What does the US gun lobby have against the lockdown anyway?


Well if the schools are closed then there can't be any school shootings - duh!!
 
2020-04-25 12:03:26 PM  

Purple_Urkle: It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison


When was Geddy Lee sent to prison?
 
2020-04-25 12:04:04 PM  

transporter_ii: [Fark user image image 568x960]


This image exemplifies one of the main reasons I stopped being a conservative.  Either all of the images are wrong or rights are not equal and there are those at the top to be obeyed and those below to be commanded and/or abused.
 
2020-04-25 12:04:22 PM  

Alphax: NSFW language.


I can't find anything I disagree with there, and I live in the woods.
 
2020-04-25 12:04:49 PM  
The lockdown is terribly frustrating for sociopaths right now.
How can you pull off a schoolyard massacre when the only target available is a janitor?
 
2020-04-25 12:05:24 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


Kabuki George Washington?
 
2020-04-25 12:06:20 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


It allows him to hide his identity from his employer and secretly wear a mask underneath.
 
2020-04-25 12:06:55 PM  

hotrod2001: Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?

A poor attempt at a Motorized Patriot cosplay?[i.redd.it image 850x413]


...oh my.  I wasn't aware something like that existed.
 
2020-04-25 12:07:41 PM  
These greasy f*cks


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2020-04-25 12:07:52 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


The best part of that picture is that he has his finger off the trigger for safety, but has absolutely no peripheral vision while carrying a large firearm. Farking idiots, all.
 
2020-04-25 12:10:01 PM  
It's just one more wing of the Republican death cult.
 
2020-04-25 12:10:17 PM  

Bslim: These greasy f*cks


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Wisconsinites Against Excessive Quarantine, huh? It's rare that the acronym of an organization perfectly describes the organization itself.
 
2020-04-25 12:10:43 PM  

Purple_Urkle: It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison


to play smeagul/Gollum in an all female lord of the rings production?
 
2020-04-25 12:11:34 PM  
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The gun stores back home aren't even closed.  They just have reduced operating hours and physical distancing rules.
 
2020-04-25 12:11:37 PM  

I Ate Shergar: What does the US gun lobby have against the lockdown anyway? Do they not realise that if millions of people die from the virus, there'll be fewer people either to buy guns or to shoot them at?


Professional courtesy for another pro-death org.
 
2020-04-25 12:14:51 PM  
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2020-04-25 12:16:17 PM  

mrwhippy: [Fark user image 640x672]


Sucks that they were right about doomsday prepping.
 
2020-04-25 12:17:05 PM  
This is about starting their "boogaloo" fantasy civil war, likely fueled by Russian shadow entities that have already infiltrated the NRA.

So again Trump is doing the bidding of Russia in order to destroy America.
 
2020-04-25 12:17:37 PM  

Purple_Urkle: It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison


Why is this biatch not in prison either...hmmm
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2020-04-25 12:19:47 PM  
Ammosexual: For when you're too fat & lazy to get into the actual military or take a martial arts class.
 
2020-04-25 12:24:33 PM  

lordjupiter: This is about starting their "boogaloo" fantasy civil war, likely fueled by Russian shadow entities that have already infiltrated the NRA.

So again Trump is doing the bidding of Russia in order to destroy America.


For many of the the rank and file, sure, this is about their masturbatory apocalypse/civil war/whatver fantasy.

For the leadership of the gun lobby, this (like whatever support they may or may not receive from foreign entities) is a cash grab, plain and simple.
 
2020-04-25 12:24:57 PM  

Erebus1954: mrwhippy: [Fark user image 640x672]

Sucks that they were right about doomsday prepping.


too bad they stocked up on guns and ammo instead of TP and hand sanitizer
 
2020-04-25 12:26:05 PM  

Forty-Three: lordjupiter: This is about starting their "boogaloo" fantasy civil war, likely fueled by Russian shadow entities that have already infiltrated the NRA.

So again Trump is doing the bidding of Russia in order to destroy America.

For many of the the rank and file, sure, this is about their masturbatory apocalypse/civil war/whatver fantasy.

For the leadership of the gun lobby, this (like whatever support they may or may not receive from foreign entities) is a cash grab, plain and simple.



It's always both.
 
2020-04-25 12:29:16 PM  
Of the 34 website addresses registered, only 16 are linked to active pages, with five tracing back to one family in the American Midwest, the Dorrs.

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These laws are not loose enough for the Dorrs, who are ultra-conservative pro-gun political campaigners active in a number of US states. Three Dorr brothers - Ben, Aaron and Chris - are especially involved in political campaigns criticizing the Republican Party for not being conservative enough on gun laws and on abortion laws. However, they are strong supporters of Trump.
Earlier this year, the  Republican Party of Minnesotadescribed them as "scam artists" who are "actually just building their own brand and raising money."
 
2020-04-25 12:30:10 PM  

IlGreven: If you're afraid of someone taking your guns, stop doing shiat that makes people want to take away your guns.


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2020-04-25 12:31:45 PM  

I Ate Shergar: What does the US gun lobby have against the lockdown anyway? Do they not realise that if millions of people die from the virus, there'll be fewer people either to buy guns or to shoot them at?


But if we re-open and the pague gets worse fear buying will accelerate.

Study it out checkturd.
 
2020-04-25 12:33:25 PM  

NephilimNexus: Ammosexual: For when you're too fat & lazy to get into the actual military or take a martial arts class.


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WOOOOOOOOLLL *cough* *wait*  *cough* .....VERIIIIIIII *cough*IIIIIIINES *wheeze*
 
2020-04-25 12:40:42 PM  

lordjupiter: Forty-Three: lordjupiter: This is about starting their "boogaloo" fantasy civil war, likely fueled by Russian shadow entities that have already infiltrated the NRA.

So again Trump is doing the bidding of Russia in order to destroy America.

For many of the the rank and file, sure, this is about their masturbatory apocalypse/civil war/whatver fantasy.

For the leadership of the gun lobby, this (like whatever support they may or may not receive from foreign entities) is a cash grab, plain and simple.


It's always both.


True.  However, they've always been calculatingly careful to stoke the fears of the rank and file just enough to keep them outraged, a little* dangerous, willing to protest on a weekend, and liable to open their pockets. This time, however, might be a bit different since they are currently in serious need of a cash infusion and seem to be acting a bit more recklessly than they would be inclined to in normal times.

* - "little" in this case is, of course, a relative term
 
2020-04-25 12:41:11 PM  

lordjupiter: This is about starting their "boogaloo" fantasy civil war, likely fueled by Russian shadow entities that have already infiltrated the NRA.

So again Trump is doing the bidding of Russia in order to destroy America.


That this isn't obvious to everybody never ceases to amaze me.
 
2020-04-25 12:42:38 PM  
Thats right. We are in fact trying to take your guns. And I hope you exercise your 2nd Amendment rights when the Feds come around.
 
2020-04-25 12:43:10 PM  
The Coathangers - F the NRA (Official Video)
Youtube RhOyxYKnACw
 
2020-04-25 12:46:20 PM  

Alphax: I Ate Shergar: What does the US gun lobby have against the lockdown anyway? Do they not realise that if millions of people die from the virus, there'll be fewer people either to buy guns or to shoot them at?

I think they're also against anything that reduces ammo usage.. like staying at home and not shooting people.


Yeah, March had no school shootings, so sales are way down.
 
2020-04-25 12:46:21 PM  
The evolution of the Great American Individualist:
1776: "Don't tread on me!"

1865: "No man shall be a slave!"

1945: "Make the world safe for Democracy!"

1968: "Power to the People!"

2020: "Waaaaaah! I wanna go to the Bar!"
 
2020-04-25 12:46:55 PM  
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2020-04-25 12:48:09 PM  

Bslim: NephilimNexus: Ammosexual: For when you're too fat & lazy to get into the actual military or take a martial arts class.

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WOOOOOOOOLLL *cough* *wait*  *cough* .....VERIIIIIIII *cough*IIIIIIINES *wheeze*


Semper Pie
 
2020-04-25 12:55:06 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


Beauty and the Beast cosplay
 
2020-04-25 1:04:44 PM  

jake_lex: MorgothsDishwasher: And, behind the gun lobby, Vladimir Putin?

It's going to be interesting to see what happens if the combined effects of the COVID-19 outbreak in Russia and the collapse of oil prices really seriously threaten Putin's survival, or even lead to his downfall.

I don't trust anyone who'd take over in that case any more than I trust Putin, but at the same time, I can't help thinking that it wouldn't be good in at least some ways.


Anyone able to replace Putin would likely be much worse, kinda the way things go over there. Name one example of Russia taking a step forward that didn't involve three steps backwards.
 
2020-04-25 1:07:17 PM  
Karen needs her roots done
 
2020-04-25 1:07:29 PM  
Notice you never seen the gun totin' freedom lovers and "constitutional sheriffs" show up to protest the unconstitutional war on marijuana using citizens nor civil asset forfeiture?
 
2020-04-25 1:07:32 PM  

DoctorCal: [Fark user image 715x344]


Notice we had our highest new case count ever yesterday.  Just about two weeks after all the MAGAt protests began... hmmm...
 
2020-04-25 1:29:17 PM  

Purple_Urkle: It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison


She was released last year and deported a day later iirc.
 
2020-04-25 1:54:20 PM  

IlGreven: If you're afraid of someone taking your guns, stop doing shiat that makes people want to take away your guns.


T-shirt. Now.
 
2020-04-25 2:09:50 PM  
I mean it, I hope that the Dorr family gets decimated by this disease.
 
2020-04-25 2:10:59 PM  
And the death toll is now over 53,000 with another 1,050 dying just today.
 
2020-04-25 2:22:36 PM  

Canucklehead68: Purple_Urkle: It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison

She was released last year and deported a day later iirc.


But f*cking EPSTEIN they took out. Jesus traitorous Christ.
 
2020-04-25 2:23:42 PM  
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2020-04-25 2:34:52 PM  
God that pic from the article is stupid. "Gee, why does Timmy's mom let him have two rifles."
 
2020-04-25 2:44:44 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


Not gonna lie, thought it was a Handsone Jack cosplayer.
 
2020-04-25 2:49:22 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

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What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


he's wearing a halloween costume of the Beast from the live action Beauty and the Beast. he couldn't even be assed to find a George Washington costume.
 
2020-04-25 2:57:28 PM  

edmo: Imagine if the next group of #blacklivesmatter protestors came marching up to the Capitol like that.


They did. Governor Reagan banned open carry in response.
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2020-04-25 2:59:18 PM  

Mail Order American Husband: jake_lex: MorgothsDishwasher: And, behind the gun lobby, Vladimir Putin?

It's going to be interesting to see what happens if the combined effects of the COVID-19 outbreak in Russia and the collapse of oil prices really seriously threaten Putin's survival, or even lead to his downfall.

I don't trust anyone who'd take over in that case any more than I trust Putin, but at the same time, I can't help thinking that it wouldn't be good in at least some ways.

Anyone able to replace Putin would likely be much worse, kinda the way things go over there. Name one example of Russia taking a step forward that didn't involve three steps backwards.


A short history of Russia in five words:

And then it got worse.

Don't remember where I first read that, but it does seem quite apt.
 
2020-04-25 3:29:39 PM  

OldRod: Purple_Urkle: It's all a viral marketing campaign to convince Libs that gun stores are essential and they need to buy guns now for the coming war.
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why is that biatch out of prison

That picture has an "anything's a dildo if you're brave enough" vibe...


We should ask Rick Sant...NONONONONOGAWDNODAMMIT.
[Dunks head in bleach]
 
2020-04-25 3:32:14 PM  
Mango Mussolini and his master, Foghorn Turtle, really screwed the pooch on this one.  There is a real possibility that both Trump and the GOP majority in congress vanishes this November.  This terrifies the NRA and gun industry.   Go have a look at Biden's website and read what he says about gun control.  He's not talking about idiotic confiscation schemes and such.  For the first time in a long time the Dems seem to have it right.   They key takeaway is that semi-auto guns will be regulated under NFA rules same as full auto.  The courts have repeatedly ruled on this.  Regulation is not an infringement.   Semi-auto guns will still be legal to own by the non-criminal and non-insane, provided those guns are registered with the feds.   I've advocated this very thing for years now.

There are also a lot of other common sense changes, such as outlawing 'private' sales under federal law.  No more 'gifts' of guns, no more Craig's List deals.

You can read the entire thing here:  https://joebiden.com/gunsafety​/
 
2020-04-25 3:40:24 PM  

dsmith42: edmo: Imagine if the next group of #blacklivesmatter protestors came marching up to the Capitol like that.

They did. Governor Reagan banned open carry in response.[i.redd.it image 850x451]


And the NRA sponsored legislation aimed at inexpensive firearms that were popular among blacks at the time.
 
2020-04-25 3:58:32 PM  

jso2897: The evolution of the Great American Individualist:
1776: "Don't tread on me!"

1865: "No man shall be a slave!"

1945: "Make the world safe for Democracy!"

1968: "Power to the People!"

2020: "Waaaaaah! I wanna go to the Bar!" git mah hair did!"


Fix'd.
 
2020-04-25 4:11:51 PM  

phrawgh: Notice you never seen the gun totin' freedom lovers and "constitutional sheriffs" show up to protest the unconstitutional war on marijuana using citizens nor civil asset forfeiture?


They showed up in Ferguson, Missouri at the Black Lives Matter rallies...to conduct "anti-looting patrols."

Yes, really.
 
2020-04-25 4:12:07 PM  

OldRod: DoctorCal: [Fark user image 715x344]

Notice we had our highest new case count ever yesterday.  Just about two weeks after all the MAGAt protests began... hmmm...


It's the bump everybody predicted when the Religious Nuts decided god would protect them when they got together for Easter.  Expect a bigger bump in 2 weeks.
 
2020-04-25 4:26:12 PM  

Forty-Three: Furthermore, there's a pretty good chance that multiple of the parties who have thus far been bitterly fighting each other mostly behind the scenes have all sorts of dirt regarding unethical or illegal behavior.  If one or more of these parties reaches the "no-farks-left-to-give" stage, or feels like they're not getting enough of a payday on the way out, they could potentially go public and blow the whole thing up.


I mean, we've already had the Oliver North resignation business and the fallout from that. Are you saying there's more to come?

/oh please let there be more
 
2020-04-25 4:50:33 PM  
(Shrug)  It would be so easy to defang these people, but that would require the Democrats to stop shooting themselves in the foot with their gun-control plank.
 
2020-04-25 4:55:58 PM  

Man On Pink Corner: (Shrug)  It would be so easy to defang these people, but that would require the Democrats to stop shooting themselves in the foot with their gun-control plank.


You can give up the ghost on liberals getting fond of gun ownership - generally, liberals loathe firearms and consider it to be a right wing concept, despite the fact that it may prove useful at times.
 
2020-04-25 4:56:03 PM  

Fissile: Mango Mussolini and his master, Foghorn Turtle, really screwed the pooch on this one.  There is a real possibility that both Trump and the GOP majority in congress vanishes this November.  This terrifies the NRA and gun industry.   Go have a look at Biden's website and read what he says about gun control.  He's not talking about idiotic confiscation schemes and such.  For the first time in a long time the Dems seem to have it right.   They key takeaway is that semi-auto guns will be regulated under NFA rules same as full auto.  The courts have repeatedly ruled on this.  Regulation is not an infringement.   Semi-auto guns will still be legal to own by the non-criminal and non-insane, provided those guns are registered with the feds.   I've advocated this very thing for years now.

There are also a lot of other common sense changes, such as outlawing 'private' sales under federal law.  No more 'gifts' of guns, no more Craig's List deals.

You can read the entire thing here:  https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/​


Why do you hate America?
 
2020-04-25 5:02:04 PM  
Holy shiat, y'all just as bad as the rednecks when it comes to forming conspiracy theories.
 
2020-04-25 5:09:11 PM  

CthulhuCalling: Holy shiat, y'all just as bad as the rednecks when it comes to forming conspiracy theories.


um... things with actual evidence to show they're true aren't conspiracy theories, bucko.
 
2020-04-25 5:19:23 PM  

Kazan: CthulhuCalling: Holy shiat, y'all just as bad as the rednecks when it comes to forming conspiracy theories.

um... things with actual evidence to show they're true aren't conspiracy theories, bucko.


That's what they want you to think, Ace. Wake up!
 
2020-04-25 5:37:27 PM  

Flappyhead: Fissile: Mango Mussolini and his master, Foghorn Turtle, really screwed the pooch on this one.  There is a real possibility that both Trump and the GOP majority in congress vanishes this November.  This terrifies the NRA and gun industry.   Go have a look at Biden's website and read what he says about gun control.  He's not talking about idiotic confiscation schemes and such.  For the first time in a long time the Dems seem to have it right.   They key takeaway is that semi-auto guns will be regulated under NFA rules same as full auto.  The courts have repeatedly ruled on this.  Regulation is not an infringement.   Semi-auto guns will still be legal to own by the non-criminal and non-insane, provided those guns are registered with the feds.   I've advocated this very thing for years now.

There are also a lot of other common sense changes, such as outlawing 'private' sales under federal law.  No more 'gifts' of guns, no more Craig's List deals.

You can read the entire thing here:  https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

Why do you hate America?


I'll show you were America touched me on this doll.
 
2020-04-25 5:40:30 PM  

JAGChem82: You can give up the ghost on liberals getting fond of gun ownership - generally, liberals loathe firearms and consider it to be a right wing concept, despite the fact that it may prove useful at times.


Oh, there are way more of us gun-toting liberal types than you think, and I guarantee you know more of them than you are aware of.  We just usually roll our eyes and keep quiet when gun politics comes up since, on this issue in particular, the most vocal true believers on both sides can be equally insufferable, and are the ones who end up setting the terms of the debate.
 
2020-04-25 5:45:05 PM  

Forty-Three: JAGChem82: You can give up the ghost on liberals getting fond of gun ownership - generally, liberals loathe firearms and consider it to be a right wing concept, despite the fact that it may prove useful at times.

Oh, there are way more of us gun-toting liberal types than you think, and I guarantee you know more of them than you are aware of.  We just usually roll our eyes and keep quiet when gun politics comes up since, on this issue in particular, the most vocal true believers on both sides can be equally insufferable, and are the ones who end up setting the terms of the debate.


overzealos left wing gun controllers: misguided, but can be reasoned with mostly

die-hard-nra-types: completely delusional

i know which of the two i prefer
 
2020-04-25 5:50:27 PM  

Mithiwithi: Forty-Three: Furthermore, there's a pretty good chance that multiple of the parties who have thus far been bitterly fighting each other mostly behind the scenes have all sorts of dirt regarding unethical or illegal behavior.  If one or more of these parties reaches the "no-farks-left-to-give" stage, or feels like they're not getting enough of a payday on the way out, they could potentially go public and blow the whole thing up.

I mean, we've already had the Oliver North resignation business and the fallout from that. Are you saying there's more to come?

/oh please let there be more


Well I have no way of knowing whatever other sketchy things Wayne LaPierre has been up to for the ~30 years he's been head of the NRA, but based on how things went down when Ollie North started pushing for more transparency, there's gotta be some serious dirt there.  Whether or not someone who knows where the (metaphorical) bodies are buried ends up going public remains to be seen.
 
2020-04-25 6:29:49 PM  

Forty-Three: Mithiwithi: Forty-Three: Furthermore, there's a pretty good chance that multiple of the parties who have thus far been bitterly fighting each other mostly behind the scenes have all sorts of dirt regarding unethical or illegal behavior.  If one or more of these parties reaches the "no-farks-left-to-give" stage, or feels like they're not getting enough of a payday on the way out, they could potentially go public and blow the whole thing up.

I mean, we've already had the Oliver North resignation business and the fallout from that. Are you saying there's more to come?

/oh please let there be more

Well I have no way of knowing whatever other sketchy things Wayne LaPierre has been up to for the ~30 years he's been head of the NRA, but based on how things went down when Ollie North started pushing for more transparency, there's gotta be some serious dirt there.  Whether or not someone who knows where the (metaphorical) bodies are buried ends up going public remains to be seen.


Shiat, Bob Dole bailed on the NRA before LaPierre was even in charge.  I have a feeling you'll still be digging long after you hit the Cincinnati convention.
 
2020-04-25 7:49:31 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Picture from TFA:

[Fark user image 700x394]

What dafuq is that clown in the center of the picture going for?


Mr. Miracle really let himself go after Big Barda made that porn with Superman
 
2020-04-25 8:27:54 PM  
People who value their individual freedoms protesting things that limit their individual freedoms?  I'm shocked.  Shocked.
 
2020-04-26 12:30:05 AM  
I assume this is what the investigation uncovered when it started looking into who was paying for the ads and how they all came from one guy in Jacksonville.
 
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