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(NPR)   Do you REALLY need those gloves?   (npr.org) divider line
    More: Unlikely, Allergy, Hygiene, Hand washing, Asthma, Common cold, Hand sanitizer, Sinusitis, latex gloves  
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640 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 23 Apr 2020 at 1:50 PM (11 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-04-23 1:55:06 PM  
Gloves are only useful when you use them the right way and in a meaningful way

So my disposable latex gloves I use for grocery shopping have to be imbued with meaning now?  Screw that.
 
2020-04-23 1:55:34 PM  
I take my hygiene seriously. Don't you?

Hell, I don't even pick my nose without wearing gloves.
 
2020-04-23 1:55:45 PM  
Anything to keep you from touching your face. Just be careful with any PPE because it's really easy to contaminate yourself taking them off. And, don't throw them on the ground like an animal.
 
2020-04-23 1:57:05 PM  
Unless the gloves help keep you from touching your face they're useless for covid-19.  And they clearly don't help govenor desantis.

Gloves in hospitals are for all the other shiat that can harm the skin or enter the body through skin or an open wound, and for the shiat that's hard or time consuming to wash off skin.
 
2020-04-23 2:07:41 PM  
This whole todo has made me seriously consider always wearing gloves when I have to go to Walmart, plague in play or not.
 
2020-04-23 2:10:35 PM  
How the hell else am I supposed to make a fifi?
 
2020-04-23 2:23:26 PM  
If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.
 
2020-04-23 2:24:18 PM  
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2020-04-23 2:25:03 PM  
At the supermarket I shop at, they sanitize the cart handles, make you sanitize your hands before even getting said cart (carts lined up inside), wipe down the belts before you can unload, won't let you get near the cashier (who is behind plastic) until called over and, though they bag, you load your own cart and give you the option of using hand sanitizer again. And everyone wears face coverings, by state order, so you're kind of forced to not touch your place in the first place. Aside from the employees, there isn't really much of a reason to wear gloves.

That said, at a virtual work meeting yesterday one person sneezed. Everyone stopped for just enough time for someone to joke that if you did that in his supermarket you'd probably be shot.
 
2020-04-23 2:33:03 PM  
Yeah, you don't need gloves and a paper towel will work for a mask. Funny but all pics from the ER show gloves and N95s, but do go on...
 
2020-04-23 2:34:36 PM  

feanorn: This whole todo has made me seriously consider always wearing gloves when I have to go to Walmart, plague in play or not.


THIS. People are disgusting, filth-coated, non-hand-washing hog beasts regardless of pandemics.
 
2020-04-23 2:35:30 PM  

damageddude: there isn't really much of a reason to wear gloves


Have you seen the people that handle the cans of cat food?  They let anybody just do that.
 
2020-04-23 2:41:31 PM  
I coat my whole hand in Elmer's glue; then when it dries, I can go out.  When I get home, I peel them off.
 
2020-04-23 2:46:16 PM  
I saw this woman at the drug store pick up some fluffy bouncy toy thing and handled the hell out of it while whacking her partner in the face with it. I asked her if she was intending on buying it and she said no and gave me a strange look. I suggest she wash her hands because she can't know who handled the hell of that before she did.

But, someone confronting her confused here and in her stunned silence, I passed her in the line and went to the checkout.
 
2020-04-23 2:49:51 PM  
A week or two before the stay at home order started I had a full box of gloves.  The only thing I use them for is food processing.

The article makes good points about gloves but the more you can practice "no touch" the better.  For anyone with a 3D printer (or if you know someone), here is a good place for devices:

https://www.thingiverse.com/groups/Ha​c​kThePandemic/forums/no-touching

There are plenty of good designs there but I like the simplicity of this one:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:423​1​303

It works really well and has reduced my having to touch things outside of my desk in my office building by about 75%....doors by 50% (many have knobs where this will not work).
 
2020-04-23 3:05:21 PM  
I wanted to buy some new bio filters for my 3m respirator as I'm starting to varnish / lacquer stuff in my wood shop. Of course all the tool shops are out of them right now, so I went online. I started with a GIS looking for my respirator to make sure they matched. Came across this:
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I mean, I get it, if you're a tagger / art student / EDM type person, but all I could imagine is some chuckle-fark in a Walmart with a Confederate flag shirt buying a handle of Jack Daniel's and a family sized box of Slim Jims.
 
2020-04-23 3:18:03 PM  
Gloves don't do shiat unless you change them after every. single. item. touched. unless every thing is already sterile. Doorknob? Contaminated. Now your previously sanitized cart: contaminated. Can of soup: contaminated. Uncontaminated jug of milk: contaminated. Still icky but not gonna kill you phone checking your list: contaminated. Purse/wallet/debit card: contaminated. Groceries put in your car: contaminated. Toss your gloves on the ground/in the cart, check your phone, get in the car: your keys and steering wheel contaminated via your phone.

Just wash your damn hands and use sanitizer liberally (and correctly) when washing isn't available. Gloves give a false sense of security that's more likely to cause you to pick it up via cross-contamination than if you just use your hands and be careful.
 
2020-04-23 3:31:30 PM  
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2020-04-23 3:33:31 PM  
I wear gloves while pushing a shopping cart, I don't know where the previous user had their hands before touching the cart.
 
2020-04-23 3:42:52 PM  
Yeah, gloves don't work just ask nurses, doctors, cops, firefighters, food handlers, janitorial staff.......
 
2020-04-23 3:59:36 PM  
Gloves don't work if you don't understand how the work. When you put on gloves, the inside is "clean" and the outside is dirty. If you take off one glove, throw it away, and pull the other one off with your bare hand, touching the outer surface? Congrats, you just got whatever was on the glove on your hands! You have to wash your hands (yes, in the gloves!) then grab just the edge and pull that off. It's even easier if you have a gown, because you can put the gloves cuffs over the gown cuffs, then pull the gloves off with the gown.

Similarly, masks. You touch the front of a mask, your hands are contaminated. Take it off by the straps, they're much less likely to be contaminated.

The hardest part of PPE is taking it off without infecting yourself with whatever's on it!

For you, do this: Stand by a sink and a trash can/washing machine if you can. Have a pair of tongs handy if you can't be near both. Wash your hands with the gloves on throughly, then remove the gloves, grabbing just the cuff edge.  Wash your hands again. Take off your mask by the straps. Wash your hands again. If disposable, those gloves and mask should be in the trash. If they're not, use something like tongs to put them there, then put the tongs in the dishwasher, or wash them. If they're not disposable, same drill but throw into the washer. Wash your hands. Yes, this would be 4 times if you used a device to put the tongs/mask somewhere, and three times if you didn't. While doing so the last time, you should wash your face as well, it probably needs it.

Finally, you'll probably want some lotion because, wow, all that washing is going to do a number on your hands.
 
2020-04-23 4:28:33 PM  
tl;dr

No one uses them correctly anyway so fark it. That goes for masks too.
 
2020-04-23 4:35:24 PM  
I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account:
For you, do this: Stand by a sink and a trash can/washing machine if you can. Have a pair of tongs handy if you can't be near both. Wash your hands with the gloves on throughly, then remove the gloves, grabbing just the cuff edge.  Wash your hands again. Take off your mask by the straps. Wash your hands again. If disposable, those gloves and mask should be in the trash. If they're not, use something like tongs to put them there, then put the tongs in the dishwasher, or wash them. If they're not disposable, same drill but throw into the washer. Wash your hands. Yes, this would be 4 times if you used a device to put the tongs/mask somewhere, and three times if you didn't. While doing so the last time, you should wash your face as well, it probably needs it.

When I started using gloves for food prep at home, it was primarily just to keep my hands from getting nasty.  Then I realized the side benefit of contamination reduction (to the food and myself).  I use the gloves to take off the gloves - and that can be done without touching yourself with whatever is on the gloves.  And if you do it correctly, you have a little ball of two gloves where the only exposed surface is what was the inside of the gloves.

Also, what you mention is why I like the 3d printed masks.  They are easy to disinfect and clean before and after wearing and the filtration is isolated.  Also, the "no-touch" devices are easily disinfected as well - you simply use a bit of hand sanitizer.  In one of the items in the link I provided upthread, one of the designers even has a little channel in their device for squeezing sanitizer into.
 
2020-04-23 4:44:48 PM  
People wearing gloves still want to itch their faces, still want to adjust their glasses.

I'm not going to take advice from people who can't use intransitive verbs correctly.
 
2020-04-23 6:46:51 PM  
Put on the gloves. do what you need to do. take off the gloves by turning them inside out without touch the outside of the glove. wash your hands at the first opportunity. what's not to like

why is this some kind of issue
 
2020-04-23 10:27:57 PM  
idiot advice for idiots.

gloves work, but because people are stupid, they figure its better to tell people to just wash their hands.

I'm going to the grocery store tomorrow, with gloves and mask.  I used to use my phone for the shopping list, but why bring the phone into the only place it could possibly be contaminated?  So, no list.  (I'm not writing it down).

the tricky part is not cross-contaminating myself when I'm done.  The first time, I used my gloved hand to pull the car keys out of my pocket.

dumbass.
 
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