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(Guardian)   Ryanair boss: there's no way I'm restarting the business with social distancing rules and empty middle seats. Ryanair can only make a profit when people are packed uncomfortably like the sardines they yearn to be   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2020-04-22 9:39:10 PM  
There'll be a lot of businesses looking at the numbers and realizing they can't cover their costs if they only have half the customers. And many won't even get back 50% of their customers
 
2020-04-22 9:41:57 PM  
Even pre-epidemic, passengers worried about other people coughing and sneezing near them. Now they're thinking it's not worth risk of being cooped up in a closed tube for several hours with potentially infectious strangers.

So there's going to be a long delay before voluntary air travel goes back to previous levels.
 
2020-04-22 10:13:02 PM  

mjjt: Even pre-epidemic, passengers worried about other people coughing and sneezing near them. Now they're thinking it's not worth risk of being cooped up in a closed tube for several hours with potentially infectious strangers.

So there's going to be a long delay before voluntary air travel goes back to previous levels.


The solution will be for TSA agents to give everyone a deep nasal swab as part of the Freedom Fondle. Then they can run one of the quick RNA tests on the samples while people are waiting at the gate. Cleared passengers get to cram on the plane and everyone's happy.

The limited throughput of the rapid-testing machines can be mitigated by mixing a number of samples together and then testing them as a single batch. A negative result clears everyone in that batch, while a positive result means you need to re-test everyone individually. As long as the true positive rate is low enough, this will save a lot of time and test reagents.
 
2020-04-22 11:57:35 PM  
I've got $10 that, within the year, we'll see a health insurance provider refuse to cover people that fly. Unless, of course, they pay an extra $300/person/month in premiums.

They'll get away with it, and then all the other health insurance providers will do it. And the end result will be that flying will be something that only the rich can do, unless their employer is paying for it. The airlines will have so few customers, that tickets will start at $2000/seat.
 
2020-04-23 12:22:35 AM  
What he actually meant to say was the he can't make money flying planes 2/3 full UNLESS he charges 50% more.

Which is what he and everyone else will end up doing.
 
2020-04-23 2:08:40 AM  

tarkin1: What he actually meant to say was the he can't make money flying planes 2/3 full UNLESS he charges 50% more.

Which is what he and everyone else will end up doing.


No, he said what be meant to say in TFA: he wants the government to buy all the tickets he wouldn't be allowed to sell.
 
2020-04-23 3:39:41 AM  

tarkin1: What he actually meant to say was the he can't make money flying planes 2/3 full UNLESS he charges 50% more.

Which is what he and everyone else will end up doing.


Ryanair charges £20 a flight.  Even at double it would be cheap compared to flights in the US.
 
2020-04-23 4:30:20 AM  

tarkin1: What he actually meant to say was the he can't make money flying planes 2/3 full UNLESS he charges 50% more.

Which is what he and everyone else will end up doing.


I don't see a way to avoid it. Though 50% sounds way too low. Few people will be flying and there are enormous fixed costs in operating aircraft and airports.
 
2020-04-23 4:35:56 AM  

caira: No, he said what be meant to say in TFA: he wants the government to buy all the tickets he wouldn't be allowed to sell.


Logically, each taxpayer funded seat would carry 150 lbs of cargo, or mail sacks, right? This is the chance to save the post office some trouble, yes?
 
2020-04-23 5:37:52 AM  
Thing is, he might be generally a total money grubbing shiatheeal, but he does seem to have a modicum of a point about these rules being a bit daft.

Social distancing is for situations where you can't avoid people for a short periods.  Not to spend an hour or two (or more)in the company of a hundred or so people in a metal tube with recycled air.
 
2020-04-23 7:00:59 AM  
Charge them social-distancing fees.
 
2020-04-23 7:39:16 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: caira: No, he said what be meant to say in TFA: he wants the government to buy all the tickets he wouldn't be allowed to sell.

Logically, each taxpayer funded seat would carry 150 lbs of cargo, or mail sacks, right? This is the chance to save the post office some trouble, yes?


Notsureifserious.exe, but that actually makes sense.  Want that sweet sweet tax money? Provide some sort of public service.
 
2020-04-23 8:19:39 AM  

freakdiablo: Bennie Crabtree: caira: No, he said what be meant to say in TFA: he wants the government to buy all the tickets he wouldn't be allowed to sell.

Logically, each taxpayer funded seat would carry 150 lbs of cargo, or mail sacks, right? This is the chance to save the post office some trouble, yes?

Notsureifserious.exe, but that actually makes sense.  Want that sweet sweet tax money? Provide some sort of public service.


.exe ?
 
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