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(The Hill)   Governor Cuomo mooooving towards opening up parts of New York where there are more cows than people   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-04-22 10:18:14 AM  
I know this approach will be complained about endlessly but it is nice to see some actual thought being put into actions. For now.
 
2020-04-22 10:53:50 AM  

edmo: I know this approach will be complained about endlessly but it is nice to see some actual thought being put into actions. For now.


It is refreshing to see some States following Trump's data driven guidelines.
 
2020-04-22 2:50:21 PM  

mrshowrules: edmo: I know this approach will be complained about endlessly but it is nice to see some actual thought being put into actions. For now.

It is refreshing to see some States following Trump's data driven guidelines.


.... are you kidding or just stupid?
 
2020-04-22 2:51:23 PM  
Why is that hospital ship leaving if there is expected to be a resurgence in infections? This whole thing is starting to sound ... hoaxy ... to me.
 
2020-04-22 2:53:17 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: Why is that hospital ship leaving if there is expected to be a resurgence in infections? This whole thing is starting to sound ... hoaxy ... to me.


That's one of the biggest things that doesn't add up.

We're told we have to flatten the curve.  We're told we HAVE to do that because there aren't enough beds to go around.  Army comes in, builds beds, and then dismantles them.

WTF?  If the problem is lack of beds, and we just got more beds, then we could loosen restrictions and return some normalcy to life.

The actions of the government do not line up with the words of the government.
 
2020-04-22 2:53:43 PM  
If Trump was half the executive that Cuomo is we'd be in way better shape.
 
2020-04-22 2:55:26 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: Why is that hospital ship leaving if there is expected to be a resurgence in infections? This whole thing is starting to sound ... hoaxy ... to me.


Have you considered that you're stupid?
 
2020-04-22 2:56:35 PM  
Magical Trevor, white courtesy phone please. Magical Trevor, white courtesy phone.
 
2020-04-22 2:58:34 PM  

RussianPotato: Chain Smokes Freely: Why is that hospital ship leaving if there is expected to be a resurgence in infections? This whole thing is starting to sound ... hoaxy ... to me.

That's one of the biggest things that doesn't add up.

We're told we have to flatten the curve.  We're told we HAVE to do that because there aren't enough beds to go around.  Army comes in, builds beds, and then dismantles them.

WTF?  If the problem is lack of beds, and we just got more beds, then we could loosen restrictions and return some normalcy to life.

The actions of the government do not line up with the words of the government.


The reason we didn't need the one in seattle is because we succesfully flattened the curve

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2020-04-22 2:59:05 PM  

Kazan: mrshowrules: edmo: I know this approach will be complained about endlessly but it is nice to see some actual thought being put into actions. For now.

It is refreshing to see some States following Trump's data driven guidelines.

.... are you kidding or just stupid?


I'm being provocative but it is in fact true.  States being cautious in re-opening are actually defying Trump yet following the written guidelines more closely than States appeasing Trump by ignoring his written guidelines.

States like Georgia are actually defying Trump's official criteria for reopening businesses.  The guidelines (among other things) require a marked 14 day reduction in new cases before anything can be re-opened. This has not occurred in Georgia (quote the opposite actually) but it has in New York City.
 
2020-04-22 2:59:13 PM  

RussianPotato: Chain Smokes Freely: Why is that hospital ship leaving if there is expected to be a resurgence in infections? This whole thing is starting to sound ... hoaxy ... to me.

That's one of the biggest things that doesn't add up.

We're told we have to flatten the curve.  We're told we HAVE to do that because there aren't enough beds to go around.  Army comes in, builds beds, and then dismantles them.

WTF?  If the problem is lack of beds, and we just got more beds, then we could loosen restrictions and return some normalcy to life.

The actions of the government do not line up with the words of the government.


If NYC has peaked, then they don't need the beds any more. The peak only holds if you assume current lockdown continues. If you loosen restrictions, then the peak will rise, requiring more beds.

Why is this difficult to understand? The government's approach seems pretty clear cut to me.
 
2020-04-22 3:03:32 PM  
My cousins are NY dairy farmers south of Buffalo.  I'm sure my cousins won't notice.  He has to be up and attending to his herd day in day out 2x a day to milk them.  Not sure if he's been dumping milk or not.

Along with my cousins I was offered an opportunity to go into farming (hog/Indiana).  I'm so happy I had the sense to turn down that opportunity.  It was almost impossible to get away from the farm for my grand folks.
 
2020-04-22 3:03:50 PM  
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2020-04-22 3:05:50 PM  
Chain Smokes Freely: Why is that hospital ship leaving if there is expected to be a resurgence in infections? This whole thing is starting to sound ... hoaxy ... to me.

Oh! He found us out! Quick, distract him until we can fudge more deaths and death certificates and fake mass burials. We just wanted him to stay at home until he died. Then he can't vote. Then the Legion of Liberal Doom can govern for ever!
 
2020-04-22 3:24:08 PM  
Oh boy.  Opening up areas like Watertown, Lowville, and Carthage. The question is, why would you even leave your house at allif you lived there?
 
2020-04-22 3:25:32 PM  

mrshowrules: Kazan: mrshowrules: edmo: I know this approach will be complained about endlessly but it is nice to see some actual thought being put into actions. For now.

It is refreshing to see some States following Trump's data driven guidelines.

.... are you kidding or just stupid?

I'm being provocative but it is in fact true.  States being cautious in re-opening are actually defying Trump yet following the written guidelines more closely than States appeasing Trump by ignoring his written guidelines.

States like Georgia are actually defying Trump's official criteria for reopening businesses.  The guidelines (among other things) require a marked 14 day reduction in new cases before anything can be re-opened. This has not occurred in Georgia (quote the opposite actually) but it has in New York City.


States remaining closed are following their own rules.  Our state's pandemic response was leaked in early March, I assume they have a re-opening plan as well.

Also, at some point things are going to have to open up, but gradually.  Like many say it's a dial not a switch.  Here in Washington we are under a stay at home order through May 4th.  While they haven't publicly discussed plans I could see them beginning to allow some services to open but maybe go appointment only.  So say at a hair salon you only have the 3-4 employees with their single customer.  Then when the chair opens up the next person is summoned via text from their car.  Next phase could include restaurants at say half capacity reservation only with no waiting in the lobby.  Slowly build on that assuming things continue to trend in a positive direction.
 
2020-04-22 3:43:19 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Oh boy.  Opening up areas like Watertown, Lowville, and Carthage. The question is, why would you even leave your house at allif you lived there?


To leave town.  To go to the bright lights of Syracuse, Utica, maybe even ... dare I say it? ... Schenectady.
 
2020-04-22 3:56:00 PM  
I am one of those people, and yes, I am outnumbered (and often outvoted) by cows.

Also very close to being laid off, so I hope that as long as it's safe, these rumors are true.

(My Fark profile sez Brooklyn, but that's only because I'm too lazy to change it and hope to go back someday anyway.)
 
2020-04-22 3:59:33 PM  

Uzzah: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Oh boy.  Opening up areas like Watertown, Lowville, and Carthage. The question is, why would you even leave your house at allif you lived there?

To leave town.  To go to the bright lights of Syracuse, Utica, maybe even ... dare I say it? ... Schenectady.


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2020-04-22 4:07:18 PM  
Only a Democrat would think it's ok to show disdain for the rural parts of his state. Which is why nobody in New York likes him
 
2020-04-22 4:11:53 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Only a Democrat would think it's ok to show disdain for the rural parts of his state. Which is why nobody in New York likes him


Good thing then that the Mayor of NYC doesn't answer to rural parts of the state.
 
2020-04-22 4:24:37 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Only a Democrat would think it's ok to show disdain for the rural parts of his state. Which is why nobody in New York likes him


The GOP has been routed statewide.
 
2020-04-22 4:28:59 PM  
They are all going to die
 
2020-04-22 4:29:52 PM  
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2020-04-22 4:52:59 PM  

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LOL.  Simpsons writers have never gotten off the Thruway.

/ok, so Niskayuna is an extra two exits up I-87.
//And the Kodak plant requires actually going into Rochester, which I wouldn't recommend.
///But still: no Horseheads?  No Plattsburgh?  No Alex Bay or Corning or Oswego?  They missed out on the living monument to urban decay that is Niagara Falls, for pete's sake.
 
2020-04-22 5:07:29 PM  

GoldSpider: Warlordtrooper: Only a Democrat would think it's ok to show disdain for the rural parts of his state. Which is why nobody in New York likes him

Good thing then that the Mayor of NYC doesn't answer to rural parts of the state.


Bah wrong thread.
 
2020-04-22 5:16:38 PM  
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2020-04-22 5:42:53 PM  
It'll be interesting, no doubt (and by interesting, I mean completely terrifying) The county I live in has 300 cases and isn't reopening yet, but the next county over has over 500 and they are starting to reopen tomorrow.
 
2020-04-22 6:02:40 PM  

Bacon of Hope and Justice: It'll be interesting, no doubt (and by interesting, I mean completely terrifying) The county I live in has 300 cases and isn't reopening yet, but the next county over has over 500 and they are starting to reopen tomorrow.


I look at these numbers you wrote, and it makes me wonder even more about the nature of shutdowns. My county has 3 cases, our surrounding counties have 2, 0, 5, and 7 cases (the 7 was because nursing home, I believe). Why are we closed and a 500 case county opening?
 
2020-04-22 6:39:36 PM  

meerclarschild: Bacon of Hope and Justice: It'll be interesting, no doubt (and by interesting, I mean completely terrifying) The county I live in has 300 cases and isn't reopening yet, but the next county over has over 500 and they are starting to reopen tomorrow.

I look at these numbers you wrote, and it makes me wonder even more about the nature of shutdowns. My county has 3 cases, our surrounding counties have 2, 0, 5, and 7 cases (the 7 was because nursing home, I believe). Why are we closed and a 500 case county opening?


Are they even testing significant numbers of people there?
 
2020-04-22 6:58:07 PM  

Misch: meerclarschild: Bacon of Hope and Justice: It'll be interesting, no doubt (and by interesting, I mean completely terrifying) The county I live in has 300 cases and isn't reopening yet, but the next county over has over 500 and they are starting to reopen tomorrow.

I look at these numbers you wrote, and it makes me wonder even more about the nature of shutdowns. My county has 3 cases, our surrounding counties have 2, 0, 5, and 7 cases (the 7 was because nursing home, I believe). Why are we closed and a 500 case county opening?

Are they even testing significant numbers of people there?


Not in appreciable numbers, but we also don't have people getting sick and dying of untested suspicious causes in noticeable numbers, either. We have small rural hospitals that are not overwhelmed and we're either awaiting the storm that is to come or it just isn't hitting our population in the expected manner. From people's cavalier attitudes toward mask-wearing and staying home, I'd expect it to be affecting us more.
 
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