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(Medical Design Briefs)   "Please cough into your phone." *Cough hack wheeze* "Processing. Congratulations. You have Covid-19." (phone uploads your entire location history for last week to local health department)   (medicaldesignbriefs.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Asthma, Cough, new Coughvid app, ETH Zurich, Artificial intelligence, Pneumonia, Common cold, smartphone app  
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2020-04-21 1:44:47 PM  
Helpful perhaps, but a cough is only one system.
 
2020-04-21 5:58:38 PM  

edmo: Helpful perhaps, but a cough is only one system.


And if I remember correctly (kinda iffy), only about half of those infected with the virus even have a cough. We need to do antibody testing like the Germans.
 
2020-04-21 6:10:58 PM  
I coughed into my phone and Siri said I don't have rona, so I'm hauling ass to the Dollar General for some DayQuil for my clogged up sinuses, tissue paper for my runny nose, and shiat tickets for the diarrhea.

And since I don't have the invisible enemy and can't go get my nails done me and the boys are gonna roll the governor's house with paper towels until he unilaterally orders everyone to go back to work. I want my Applebee's, I want my Garth Brooks concerts, and by god I want to get shiathammered at the bar again!

The peak is over folks! Study it out!
 
2020-04-21 6:33:54 PM  
This message will self destruct in five... Fou [carrier lost]
 
2020-04-21 6:36:31 PM  
Good luck...my phone is behind 7 proxies.
 
2020-04-21 7:22:10 PM  
2019 "wow, look at all this nightmarish overreach. My phone should not be used as a spying or tracking device".
2020 "hey, look at this awesome feature that not only exposes my private health data but also tells government agents and random strangers where I've been."

/I'm sure once the threat has passed they'll put all this handy technology back into Pandora's box where it belongs.
 
2020-04-21 7:36:08 PM  
FTA: "Doctors already listen to their patients' coughs to diagnose whooping cough, asthma and pneumonia"

...do they not do that with a stethoscope pressed against various parts of the rib cage so that they can better classify the nature of the sounds?  It sounds like this app is simply a "dry cough, not dry cough" detector.  Which, I mean great if it can do that, but it doesn't even seem like it's fully evaluating the one feature they're classifying their "patients" on.

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2020-04-21 8:52:20 PM  
Im pretty sure I can tell if my cough is wet or dry.

It's allergy season, it's a wet cough. Even if I had this bug it would be a wet cough because my allergies are still present.
 
2020-04-22 2:37:17 AM  

Likwit: edmo: Helpful perhaps, but a cough is only one system.

And if I remember correctly (kinda iffy), only about half of those infected with the virus even have a cough. We need to do antibody testing like the Germans.


Per TFA it's 2/3, but yes one of the infuriating things about this is the ludicrous range of symptoms.

And while antibody testing is key, we also need much more PCR testing as well. Antibody tests won't show anything until you've started making antibodies... Meaning you've most likely already infected someone else.

Once we've got the overall spread tamped way down, we need to follow the South Korea model and engage in extremely aggressive contact tracing. Every single new case, hunt down every person they came near in the last several days and test all of those people immediately - before they get sick or worse become Covoid Marys. The only way to exterminate this is to get ahead of it. We can't just hide on our couches forever.

That's how South Korea came one religious fundie dumbass away from stomping their outbreak before it began, and how they kept it from exploding after.
 
2020-04-22 3:06:01 AM  

erik-k: Likwit: edmo: Helpful perhaps, but a cough is only one system.

And if I remember correctly (kinda iffy), only about half of those infected with the virus even have a cough. We need to do antibody testing like the Germans.

Per TFA it's 2/3, but yes one of the infuriating things about this is the ludicrous range of symptoms.

And while antibody testing is key, we also need much more PCR testing as well. Antibody tests won't show anything until you've started making antibodies... Meaning you've most likely already infected someone else.

Once we've got the overall spread tamped way down, we need to follow the South Korea model and engage in extremely aggressive contact tracing. Every single new case, hunt down every person they came near in the last several days and test all of those people immediately - before they get sick or worse become Covoid Marys. The only way to exterminate this is to get ahead of it. We can't just hide on our couches forever.

That's how South Korea came one religious fundie dumbass away from stomping their outbreak before it began, and how they kept it from exploding after.


The fact that you're so contagious so quickly with this one is a real shiatter. Otherwise we could just have Darwin sort out the diehard religious folks.
 
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