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(The US Sun)   Who are you going to believe, MIT researchers who are warning of a coronavirus 'explosion' if lockdowns are eased too soon or Trump who wants to open up everything early?   (the-sun.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Infection, Infectious disease, Prediction, term relaxation of mitigation measures, US Sun team, Donald Trump, Disease, quarantine measures  
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2020-04-18 7:13:26 AM  
We have plenty of historical data.  We cannot reopen without widespread testing.  That means the POSITIVE test rate for active cases must be below 5%.  Ours is what?  20%?  That's PATHETIC.  No WAY can you reopen under those circumstances, and not see major recurrence.

We'll also need people monitored with IR thermometers at every business and commercial establishment.  If they have a fever, they need to be tested and quarantined.  Without any exceptions.
Until we have that, I'll stay right here, thanks.
 
2020-04-18 7:24:05 AM  
Historical data confirms we are fools awaiting any test results associated in any way with Trump*.
His life long aversion to and failure with tests is well documented. Tests are just not Trump*'s thing.
Like matter/anti-matter, tests and Trump* cannot coexist.
 
2020-04-18 7:39:52 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: We'll also need people monitored with IR thermometers at every business and commercial establishment.


I haven't had a fever since I was about 3 or so.  That included having appendicitis, flu, food poising and other fever related ailments.  I don't know how common that is.  Odd enough I get a strange feeling in my head when I should have a fever.  Is a fever a reliable symptom?
 
2020-04-18 8:08:34 AM  
I dunno, subby.

The last time I saw an MIT researcher it was at his wedding. He, and his immediate kin, were dressed in traditional Scottish garb (kilts and sporran and knee-high socks and so on).
They ended the public portion of the night drunk as lords, piled in an elevator and answering that often-asked question: "are they really bare under there?"

I'm going to have to choose him as my go-to guy when it comes to warnings of negative consequences since his parting words were "This is going to hurt tomorrow" - and it was entirely true.
 
2020-04-18 8:11:25 AM  

DON.MAC: Is a fever a reliable symptom?


If you don't have a fever at some point, you did not have a bad case of COVID-19.  It doesn't mean you didn't have a mild one.  But it's an indicator that this person should not be out and about.
 
2020-04-18 8:16:47 AM  
Trump, Trump, Trump!!!!

freedom!

maga2020, forever!!!!
 
2020-04-18 8:22:34 AM  
Ivory tower boffins or our Beloved Leader"
Incomplete statistics or alternative facts?
Democrats who think people matter more than money or right-wingers who don't?
Freedom to go infect others or horrible restrictions like staying at home?
State governors who heed the advice of medical advisors or AstroTurf rioters?
Fark notnews or Faux pseudonews?
 
2020-04-18 8:35:00 AM  
USA! USA! USA! FREEDOM! LIBERTY! MAGA!
Yay! We got mentioned on YouTube!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w7F_​h​zqIhM

//If you haven't subscribed to this guy's channel by now, do it!
 
2020-04-18 8:40:23 AM  
I'm going to have to go with trump, he's never been wrong before.

Except with women, businesses and running a government, other than that, he's never been wrong.
 
2020-04-18 9:14:56 AM  
Evacuate?! In our moment of Triumph?!?

/Even you libsterattos gotta admit that he's perfectly fixed the 'not hurting the right people' thing.
 
2020-04-18 9:18:14 AM  
Well MIT is just down the street from Harvard which means libruls. Why do you hate America?
 
2020-04-18 9:49:45 AM  
I'm gonno go with the Trump "gut feeling" of course! Maga!

/jk. Jesus Christ it's sarcasm!
 
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2020-04-18 10:04:51 AM  

cranked: Evacuate?! In our moment of Triumph?!?

/Even you libsterattos gotta admit that he's perfectly fixed the 'not hurting the right people' thing.


The President of the United States isn't supposed to hurt anyone outside of a theatre of war.
 
2020-04-18 10:31:18 AM  
You mean to tell me President "Very good people on both sides" is fanning the flames of the far right idiots who want to reopen the country now.  This in no way is related to the articles that keep coming out saying how Covid-19 is disproportionately affecting minority communities.  Nope, not at all.  Purely coincidental.
 
2020-04-18 10:32:10 AM  
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2020-04-18 10:32:47 AM  
This is truly the dumbest timeline.
 
2020-04-18 10:32:56 AM  
Why should we treat Podunk, MS the same as NYC?
 
2020-04-18 10:34:06 AM  
MIT, who are scientists and have no skin in the game?
Trump, who wants go golfing and help his cronies and donors make money again by sending their slaves back to work?

I'm really on the fence here.
 
2020-04-18 10:34:55 AM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Why should we treat Podunk, MS the same as NYC?


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2020-04-18 10:35:53 AM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Why should we treat Podunk, MS the same as NYC?


Indeed. Everybody knows the humans in cities are vastly different than humans who do not live in cities.
You are very smart.
 
2020-04-18 10:37:02 AM  
The only reason Trump locked down the country in the first place was to get the grift from the $2.2T "stimulus" package. He sifted a few billion and now it's time to get the stock market roiling again. Doesn't anybody find it odd he wants to open back up as soon as the check was cashed?
 
2020-04-18 10:37:55 AM  
I have no intention of going back to work until AFTER the next MAGAt really Trump holds and personally attends.

Strike that.  Until at least two weeks after the next MAGAt really.
 
2020-04-18 10:38:01 AM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Why should we treat Podunk, MS the same as NYC?


We shouldn't.  They should do whatever they feel. I fully support whatever happens to them.
 
2020-04-18 10:39:48 AM  
Trump doesnt understand that number, that's people. In fact a lot of people don't get that.

Why? Because it's easy to dehumanize a number. Every day in America it's the first thing you hear every day when you flip on the news, this many dead in a school shooting, this man dead in a plane crash, tgis many in car collision on this street.

That isn't your co-worker, that isn't your grandma, that isn't your local barista, no, it's just a number.

So, much like people on the road who only see the car in front of them who think "why is this farker going so slow!!!" They don't understand big picture, they can't see the truck that jackknifed 4 miles ahead. They just want to get around the guy in front of them.

America has elected the way of pain. We've chosen to learn that number is people, not a number. And the way we learn that, is when someone you KNOW gets added to it.
 
2020-04-18 10:40:11 AM  
Well he IS a Wharton educated businessman.
 
2020-04-18 10:41:03 AM  
Donnie, you want to be the president who, while seeking re-election, fu*ked up football season? Because that is exactly what might happen in our football-mad country where most of the top-rated television broadcasts in any given year are NFL games.

Maybe it all goes OK for a little while and Donnie brags that he knows more than all those doctors combined.

But eventually, it will turn.

We know this, because every public health expert in the country and the world says the exact same thing: If we're not comprehensively testing and contact-tracing, it's going to start up again. You've read about asymptomatic carriers and a second wave as much as I have, I'm sure. As much as most Farkers have. Except the one guy who really needs to.

And so, by the fall, there'll be another outbreak, just before the football season. G'head, Mr. USFL.
 
2020-04-18 10:41:22 AM  
So far the only thing that outnumbers the things this guy didn't do right, are the things he did do wrong.
 
2020-04-18 10:41:46 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: We have plenty of historical data.  We cannot reopen without widespread testing.  That means the POSITIVE test rate for active cases must be below 5%.  Ours is what?  20%?  That's PATHETIC.  No WAY can you reopen under those circumstances, and not see major recurrence.

We'll also need people monitored with IR thermometers at every business and commercial establishment.  If they have a fever, they need to be tested and quarantined.  Without any exceptions.
Until we have that, I'll stay right here, thanks.


And then there is this rosy projection

https://eand.co/this-is-how-an-econom​y​-dies-a19bbcdc1c96
 
2020-04-18 10:42:24 AM  

LovesToSpooge: The only reason Trump locked down the country in the first place was to get the grift from the $2.2T "stimulus" package. He sifted a few billion and now it's time to get the stock market roiling again. Doesn't anybody find it odd he wants to open back up as soon as the check was cashed?


Narrator: Trump didn't lock down anything, governors and mayors did.

Trump has literally done nothing of any practical value to slow the pandemic. He didn't order a nationwide shelter in place, he didn't help states obtain PPE, he didn't help states get ventilators and he didn't do anything to fix the shortage of reliable testing.

He shut down some travel from China and Europe after the disease was already here. That's literally the only thing he did.
 
2020-04-18 10:42:24 AM  
We've had about 6 weeks to hyper-produce PPE, body bags, and mass graves. We've been converting ships and convention centers into hospitals. We're ready. Open the gates for f*cks sake.
 
2020-04-18 10:43:30 AM  
If all sane, rational, non virus deniers stay on self imposed lock down and quarantine until the insanity starts to cool off it seems to me like this will become a self correcting problem.  Or the nutballs will develop resistance to the virus and use that to keep the rest of us on lockdown forever and put us in camps and eventually gas us and burn our corpses in ovens.

Hopefully someone develops a vaccine soon.
 
2020-04-18 10:43:48 AM  

LovesToSpooge: The only reason Trump locked down the country in the first place was to get the grift from the $2.2T "stimulus" package. He sifted a few billion and now it's time to get the stock market roiling again. Doesn't anybody find it odd he wants to open back up as soon as the check was cashed?


I can't "smart" this post because Trump didn't lock down the country.

But robbing the treasury for his own selfish purposes IS the only reason for his initial tepid support of that measure, and now that the money's out there to support the Stonks, he's all in favor of sending the peasants back to work, no matter the cost. And robbing the treasury some more to finance his re-election efforts.
 
2020-04-18 10:44:07 AM  
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2020-04-18 10:44:38 AM  
The Sun citing MIT researchers feels like creating a singularity big enough to power a fleet of Romulan warbird, or is it just me?
 
2020-04-18 10:45:22 AM  

Chain Smokes Freely: We've had about 6 weeks to hyper-produce PPE, body bags, and mass graves. We've been converting ships and convention centers into hospitals. We're ready. Open the gates for f*cks sake.


What, 37,000 dead Americans isn't enough? How many more until your thirst for death is satisfied?
 
2020-04-18 10:45:33 AM  
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2020-04-18 10:46:06 AM  
I'd love this information from a source more reliable than The Sun or The Daily Mail.
 
2020-04-18 10:47:03 AM  
How soon the liberal media forgets.  Donald Trump had an uncle who WENT to MIT, therefore Trump has the best brain.  He has informed us of this several times.  FACT.
 
2020-04-18 10:47:51 AM  

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This is both the most awesome and farked up thing I've seen in a long time.


Thank you.
 
2020-04-18 10:48:10 AM  

Chain Smokes Freely: We've had about 6 weeks to hyper-produce PPE, body bags, and mass graves. We've been converting ships and convention centers into hospitals. We're ready. Open the gates for f*cks sake.


You seem like a good candidate for the disease.
 
2020-04-18 10:48:18 AM  
And here he is calling it a hoax AND downplaying it:

Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, 'How's President Trump doing?' They go, 'Oh, not good, not good.' They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa, they can't even count. No they can't. They can't count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they've been doing it since you got in. It's all turning, they lost, it's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that's been pretty amazing. We're 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that.

So a number that nobody heard of that I heard of recently and I was shocked to hear it, 35,000 people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that? 35,000. That's a lot of people. It could go to 100,000, it could be 27,000, they say usually a minimum of 27, it goes up to 100,000 people a year who die, and so far we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States. Nobody. And it doesn't mean we won't, and we are totally prepared, it doesn't mean we won't. But think of it. You hear 35 and 40,000 people, and we've lost nobody, and you wonder, the press is in hysteria mode.


It's a hoax!
IT'S THE FLU!
 
2020-04-18 10:48:28 AM  
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2020-04-18 10:49:39 AM  

Chain Smokes Freely: 6 weeks to hyper-produce PPE, body bags


Which is why no one can get them except by buying them from overseas, only to have the feds appropriate them & auction them off?
 
2020-04-18 10:51:25 AM  
And I looked, and behold a orange walrus: and his name that sat on him was COVFEE-19, and Pence followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with stupidity, and with bronzer, and with death, and with the MAGATS of the earth.
 
2020-04-18 10:53:03 AM  
1 pretty white girl killed by an immigrant: Mobilize the government! Build the wall! Send the army! Cage kids! Separate families! Spend billions!1000s dying per day: Stay at home!? But that inconveniences me! End the lockdown! Find a way to fix this by making brown people miserable!The Trumpist mind is warped beyond understanding.
 
2020-04-18 10:53:04 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Chain Smokes Freely: We've had about 6 weeks to hyper-produce PPE, body bags, and mass graves. We've been converting ships and convention centers into hospitals. We're ready. Open the gates for f*cks sake.

You seem like a good candidate for the disease.


You would think, wouldn't you. Nope. Mrs. C.S. Freely is a front lines COVID nurse ... nothing but COVID patients exclusively for the last month. Surely something as contagious and deadly as COVID, which can live inside an active volcano for up to 100 year, would have taken me down by now. Nope. So whatever. Not that I'm opposed to the social distancing .. I really like that part .. the general population of hogs lumbers big circles around me.
 
2020-04-18 10:53:16 AM  

grokca: I'm going to have to go with trump, he's never been wrong before.

Except with women, businesses and running a government, other than that, he's never been wrong.


He accused Fox News of not supporting him. So, he was wrong there.
 
2020-04-18 10:53:26 AM  
Gonna keep posting this until the "we overreacted" stories stop.  So...probably forever.

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2020-04-18 10:55:20 AM  
Well, as a waterhead window licking trumpanzee with a straight up addiction to having smoke constantly blown up my ass, im all tangerine toddler all the time. he's a vulgar, passionately ignorant sh&tbag just like me.

please, no more questions.
 
2020-04-18 10:55:35 AM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Why should we treat Podunk, MS the same as NYC?


I never answer questions from marsupial puke.  Clearly, your title fits you.
 
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