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2020-04-17 2:32:12 AM  
Sadly, only the powerless seem to understand.
 
2020-04-17 2:33:37 AM  
Trump's "rally around the flag" bump was quick and not very high.

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2020-04-17 2:33:51 AM  
But the cure is worse than the disease, and it is totally Gyna's fault.

/s
 
2020-04-17 2:35:35 AM  
Nana's had a good life. I'll miss her, but I gotta make that sweet, sweet cheddah...
 
2020-04-17 2:36:50 AM  
Selfish bastards.  Throw grandma on the pile for the good of my wallet.  Don't make me come over there and do it myself.
 
2020-04-17 2:40:38 AM  
We're wasting time digging mass graves.  We should instead flay their skin and use that raw material to print our money, so that way with each dollar we can be reminded of the, time, blood, and sacrifice used to make it.  Because that's what money is, people's time and labor.  Maybe having a physical grim representation of it would be a serviceable reminder.

Probably not, this pandemic has shown me the callous nature in more than a few American hearts. Watching people say we should just buck up and accept the death toll and move on with getting sick, bury the dead and get back to work.

When you ask them, they can never name which members of their family should be on the alter, nope.  They expect YOU to pay it.
 
2020-04-17 2:41:05 AM  

JonBuck: Trump's "rally around the flag" bump was quick and not very high.

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That approval level is still TOO DAMN HIGH.
 
2020-04-17 2:41:52 AM  
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2020-04-17 2:43:03 AM  
A new anti-viral drug under test is not appreciably reducing the overall fatality rate but is reducing the typical recovery time for severe cases from 10 days in ICU on a ventilator to only 6 days. Good news like that tends to get lost in the noise when Cheerleader in Chief Trump spends every afternoon prattling on about what a great job he is doing.
 
2020-04-17 2:43:42 AM  
Before denouncing Trump's planned end of the lock-down, read the guidelines the White House released.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politi​c​s/read-guidelines-for-opening-america/​index.html
 
2020-04-17 2:46:25 AM  
"Work to live, not live to work" has become, "work to death...".
Hang on, having a sad now.
 
2020-04-17 2:46:54 AM  

OgreMagi: Before denouncing Trump's planned end of the lock-down, read the guidelines the White House released.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politic​s/read-guidelines-for-opening-america/​index.html


You mean the ones that only came after massive amounts of backlash for his attempts to do it too quickly.

OgreMagi, bootlicking since... forever
 
2020-04-17 2:48:03 AM  
I'd be thrilled, THRILLED, to sacrifice every last Republican on that altar, starting with McConnell. It may get messy, but that's a sacrifice I'M willing to make.
 
2020-04-17 2:48:51 AM  
Buckle up, its not over yet, We have more mistakes to make. - brought to you by the people at Current Reality!
 
2020-04-17 2:50:45 AM  
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2020-04-17 2:50:57 AM  

Kazan: OgreMagi: Before denouncing Trump's planned end of the lock-down, read the guidelines the White House released.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politic​s/read-guidelines-for-opening-america/​index.html

You mean the ones that only came after massive amounts of backlash for his attempts to do it too quickly.

OgreMagi, bootlicking since... forever


Did my post contain a single farking word for or against the plan or Trump?  No, it did not.  I said read the farking guidelines before making an ass out of yourself and posting stupid shiat.  Clearly, you did not understand those simple word and haven't bothered to read the guidelines.  Instead you made an ass of yourself and immediately went on the attack, proving your complete ignorance and the extreme level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
 
2020-04-17 2:50:58 AM  
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2020-04-17 2:51:19 AM  

Butternut Squanch: Nana's had a good life. I'll miss her, but I gotta make that sweet, sweet cheddah...


Money money baller baller
 
2020-04-17 2:54:59 AM  

i ignore u: Selfish bastards.  Throw grandma on the pile for the good of my wallet.  Don't make me come over there and do it myself.


My grandma is 100. So I get it. But we actually afford to loss 1% of the medical field.
So once again, GOP policies don't look beyond much if any thing damn.

A safety that worked and was robust would have made this lock down less costly.
Healthcare and sick leave for all would made this all less jacked up.

Not encouraging people to work sick would have saved lives, since forever.
But money money baller baller
 
2020-04-17 2:57:51 AM  

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2020-04-17 2:59:46 AM  

thepeterd: [Fark user image image 425x629]


Commies and democracies both have white elephants. Says to me our differences are over hyped and superficial.
But too many people are too stupid to know. Meh.
 
2020-04-17 2:59:55 AM  
"March into the ovens by the millions! It's your duty to the Reich!"
Seriously, that is EXACTLY what the talking points oozing out of the Republicans sound like
 
2020-04-17 3:01:20 AM  
Archie Bunker Pinko Kids
Youtube oGxB-R34Lsc
 
2020-04-17 3:01:46 AM  

OgreMagi: Kazan: OgreMagi: Before denouncing Trump's planned end of the lock-down, read the guidelines the White House released.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politic​s/read-guidelines-for-opening-america/​index.html

You mean the ones that only came after massive amounts of backlash for his attempts to do it too quickly.

OgreMagi, bootlicking since... forever

Did my post contain a single farking word for or against the plan or Trump?  No, it did not.  I said read the farking guidelines before making an ass out of yourself and posting stupid shiat.  Clearly, you did not understand those simple word and haven't bothered to read the guidelines.  Instead you made an ass of yourself and immediately went on the attack, proving your complete ignorance and the extreme level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.


Prior to 2017, an actual policy document mattered.
Now policy is whatever the latest thing Trump word-vomited at the cameras.
So that's a nice document, but it'll be obsolete in 24 hours.
 
2020-04-17 3:03:14 AM  
Well sure, not their loved ones.  Other people's loved ones, not such a big deal.  Everyone thinks it will only happen to someone else.
 
2020-04-17 3:06:54 AM  

thepeterd: [Fark user image image 425x629]


Tough words coming from a yellow-bellied coward who refuse the call of his generation.
 
2020-04-17 3:08:31 AM  

taipei_lad: I'd be thrilled, THRILLED, to sacrifice every last Republican on that altar, starting with McConnell. It may get messy, but that's a sacrifice I'M willing to make.


there is no difference between the two parties, they are both horrible. they are like pro wrestlers. back stage they all eat at the same table.
 
2020-04-17 3:08:55 AM  
That's nice that you've all burnished your more-careful-than-thou and anti-capitalist bona fides, but in the meantime the state and governments that actually provide the services we need are massively short on the tax revenue that they budgeted for. And unlike the hacks in Washington, your local government has to maintain some semblance of contact with reality and does not get to conjure money out of the ether.

Which means the layoffs are beginning.

You say government workers are essential for civil society? That's nice. Got the tax revenue to pay them? No? 

(wellbye.jpeg)
 
2020-04-17 3:12:20 AM  
I'm still going to work. I'm considered essential because I provide print and mail support for healthcare companies and banks. I don't feel very essential. Anything I do can wait a few weeks. My PPE is a cotton mask and two people from my shift are in quarantine already. I live alone. The last time I touched another human being was more than 2 weeks ago. And i don't know which is worse: going to work and possibly getting infected, or being alone 24/7 for weeks.
 
2020-04-17 3:14:31 AM  

Hagbardr: I'm still going to work. I'm considered essential because I provide print and mail support for healthcare companies and banks. I don't feel very essential. Anything I do can wait a few weeks. My PPE is a cotton mask and two people from my shift are in quarantine already. I live alone. The last time I touched another human being was more than 2 weeks ago. And i don't know which is worse: going to work and possibly getting infected, or being alone 24/7 for weeks.


I'm working from home and live alone.  I go days without seeing another human being.  A grocery run is the highlight of my week.
 
2020-04-17 3:17:32 AM  

OgreMagi: Kazan: OgreMagi: Before denouncing Trump's planned end of the lock-down, read the guidelines the White House released.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politic​s/read-guidelines-for-opening-america/​index.html

You mean the ones that only came after massive amounts of backlash for his attempts to do it too quickly.

OgreMagi, bootlicking since... forever

Did my post contain a single farking word for or against the plan or Trump?  No, it did not.  I said read the farking guidelines before making an ass out of yourself and posting stupid shiat.  Clearly, you did not understand those simple word and haven't bothered to read the guidelines.  Instead you made an ass of yourself and immediately went on the attack, proving your complete ignorance and the extreme level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.


I've listened to Trump's bullshiat  and deflections from a country away and this isn't his plan. His plan was open the country last week, so shut the hell up. He's had to be pushed into this and I'm guessing that wasn't easy. Try licking toad next time, instead of boot or worse Trump taint.
 
2020-04-17 3:18:07 AM  

HerptheDerp: We're wasting time digging mass graves.  We should instead flay their skin and use that raw material to print our money, so that way with each dollar we can be reminded of the, time, blood, and sacrifice used to make it.  Because that's what money is, people's time and labor.  Maybe having a physical grim representation of it would be a serviceable reminder.

Probably not, this pandemic has shown me the callous nature in more than a few American hearts. Watching people say we should just buck up and accept the death toll and move on with getting sick, bury the dead and get back to work.

When you ask them, they can never name which members of their family should be on the alter, nope.  They expect YOU to pay it.


Well stuff like this always happens to someone else until it happens to them and then you get the tears and they ask "why? "
 
2020-04-17 3:21:15 AM  

Gulper Eel: That's nice that you've all burnished your more-careful-than-thou and anti-capitalist bona fides, but in the meantime the state and governments that actually provide the services we need are massively short on the tax revenue that they budgeted for. And unlike the hacks in Washington, your local government has to maintain some semblance of contact with reality and does not get to conjure money out of the ether.

Which means the layoffs are beginning.

You say government workers are essential for civil society? That's nice. Got the tax revenue to pay them? No? 

(wellbye.jpeg)


Maybe some of the billions poured into the stock market and airlines and corporate ceo bonuses could have been used for this?
 
2020-04-17 3:24:06 AM  
The majority of voters also did not vote for Trump even though he's still our president.
 
2020-04-17 3:24:59 AM  

OgreMagi: Kazan: OgreMagi: Before denouncing Trump's planned end of the lock-down, read the guidelines the White House released.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politic​s/read-guidelines-for-opening-america/​index.html

You mean the ones that only came after massive amounts of backlash for his attempts to do it too quickly.

OgreMagi, bootlicking since... forever

Did my post contain a single farking word for or against the plan or Trump?  No, it did not.  I said read the farking guidelines before making an ass out of yourself and posting stupid shiat.  Clearly, you did not understand those simple word and haven't bothered to read the guidelines.  Instead you made an ass of yourself and immediately went on the attack, proving your complete ignorance and the extreme level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.


Keep proving my point, fascist lover.
 
2020-04-17 3:26:17 AM  

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He was a swaggering drunk who played a big he-man hero on film even though he never served a day in his life, and died of cancer after exposure to radiation from playing a Mongol warrior in one of the worst, most ill-conceived movies ever put to celluloid.   So I think his opinion can be safely disregarded.
 
2020-04-17 3:28:36 AM  

HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: That's nice that you've all burnished your more-careful-than-thou and anti-capitalist bona fides, but in the meantime the state and governments that actually provide the services we need are massively short on the tax revenue that they budgeted for. And unlike the hacks in Washington, your local government has to maintain some semblance of contact with reality and does not get to conjure money out of the ether.

Which means the layoffs are beginning.

You say government workers are essential for civil society? That's nice. Got the tax revenue to pay them? No? 

(wellbye.jpeg)

Maybe some of the billions poured into the stock market and airlines and corporate ceo bonuses could have been used for this?


Take it up with the congressmembers who passed it all but unanimously.
 
2020-04-17 3:30:58 AM  

Hagbardr: I'm still going to work. I'm considered essential because I provide print and mail support for healthcare companies and banks. I don't feel very essential. Anything I do can wait a few weeks. My PPE is a cotton mask and two people from my shift are in quarantine already. I live alone. The last time I touched another human being was more than 2 weeks ago. And i don't know which is worse: going to work and possibly getting infected, or being alone 24/7 for weeks.


Now imagine latchkey kids. I didn't see my mom 16 hours a day. As kid. Thanks Ronald Reagan.


In the words of Malcolm X

Chickens coming back to the shed

Yeah I butchered it
 
2020-04-17 3:33:03 AM  
Turns out second order thinking isn't extinct in America. Just among conservatives.
 
2020-04-17 3:35:54 AM  
Which is why ending them early will not save the economy.  You end all the restrictions, you will get tens of thousands of more dead, or more, and people will still be refusing to go to sporting events, concerts, amusement parks, movie theaters, restaurants, and any place else with a crowd.  Enough so that the benefits to the economy will be negligible.
 
2020-04-17 3:37:25 AM  

EL EM: Sadly, only the powerless seem to understand.


The moment you stop pretending you're powerless and get off your ass you'll realize that as workers/consumers you already hold most of the cards.

Start standing up yourself. And then stand up for your coworker and your neighbor. That will get the snowball rolling and no amount of wealth on paper will be able to stop it.
 
2020-04-17 3:38:13 AM  

winedrinkingman: Which is why ending them early will not save the economy.  You end all the restrictions, you will get tens of thousands of more dead, or more, and people will still be refusing to go to sporting events, concerts, amusement parks, movie theaters, restaurants, and any place else with a crowd.  Enough so that the benefits to the economy will be negligible.


As long as they can ride the volatility in the market they don't care how many die.
 
2020-04-17 3:42:18 AM  

Gulper Eel: HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: That's nice that you've all burnished your more-careful-than-thou and anti-capitalist bona fides, but in the meantime the state and governments that actually provide the services we need are massively short on the tax revenue that they budgeted for. And unlike the hacks in Washington, your local government has to maintain some semblance of contact with reality and does not get to conjure money out of the ether.

Which means the layoffs are beginning.

You say government workers are essential for civil society? That's nice. Got the tax revenue to pay them? No? 

(wellbye.jpeg)

Maybe some of the billions poured into the stock market and airlines and corporate ceo bonuses could have been used for this?

Take it up with the congressmembers who passed it all but unanimously.


Nice deflector shields you have there.
 
2020-04-17 3:42:59 AM  
Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos's fortune increase 20% during this crisis. And he's getting pissy at France because we dared suggest he should protect his workers !
 
2020-04-17 3:44:49 AM  

winedrinkingman: Which is why ending them early will not save the economy.  You end all the restrictions, you will get tens of thousands of more dead, or more, and people will still be refusing to go to sporting events, concerts, amusement parks, movie theaters, restaurants, and any place else with a crowd.  Enough so that the benefits to the economy will be negligible.


Grocery store is only the crowded place I'm going for the at least the next year if not 3 years. And I love the hell out of concerts.
 
2020-04-17 3:47:07 AM  

HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: That's nice that you've all burnished your more-careful-than-thou and anti-capitalist bona fides, but in the meantime the state and governments that actually provide the services we need are massively short on the tax revenue that they budgeted for. And unlike the hacks in Washington, your local government has to maintain some semblance of contact with reality and does not get to conjure money out of the ether.

Which means the layoffs are beginning.

You say government workers are essential for civil society? That's nice. Got the tax revenue to pay them? No? 

(wellbye.jpeg)

Maybe some of the billions poured into the stock market and airlines and corporate ceo bonuses could have been used for this?

Take it up with the congressmembers who passed it all but unanimously.

Nice deflector shields you have there.


You got anything with meat on it?

I saw no congressional objections to the multi-trillion-dollar dog's breakfast that was shoved through a bipartisan Congress, save for a couple of grumpy libertarians who were ritually monstered.

Now that the bailout is revealed for the mess it was, the same people who eagerly supported it want to piss, moan, and have it both ways.
 
2020-04-17 3:50:46 AM  

Gulper Eel: HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: That's nice that you've all burnished your more-careful-than-thou and anti-capitalist bona fides, but in the meantime the state and governments that actually provide the services we need are massively short on the tax revenue that they budgeted for. And unlike the hacks in Washington, your local government has to maintain some semblance of contact with reality and does not get to conjure money out of the ether.

Which means the layoffs are beginning.

You say government workers are essential for civil society? That's nice. Got the tax revenue to pay them? No? 

(wellbye.jpeg)

Maybe some of the billions poured into the stock market and airlines and corporate ceo bonuses could have been used for this?

Take it up with the congressmembers who passed it all but unanimously.

Nice deflector shields you have there.

You got anything with meat on it?

I saw no congressional objections to the multi-trillion-dollar dog's breakfast that was shoved through a bipartisan Congress, save for a couple of grumpy libertarians who were ritually monstered.

Now that the bailout is revealed for the mess it was, the same people who eagerly supported it want to piss, moan, and have it both ways.


You asked where the tax revenue was that could pay state and local government employees, and I provided an answer that pointed out where that tax revenue went. Simple as that.
 
2020-04-17 3:52:47 AM  

fragMasterFlash: A new anti-viral drug under test is not appreciably reducing the overall fatality rate but is reducing the typical recovery time for severe cases from 10 days in ICU on a ventilator to only 6 days. Good news like that tends to get lost in the noise when Cheerleader in Chief Trump spends every afternoon prattling on about what a great job he is doing.


I do believe you misinterpreted those results. They were on severe cases that were already in the ICU. You're seem to be conflating the death rate of patients that wind up in the ICU with the death rate for those who test positive with symptoms.
 
2020-04-17 3:52:49 AM  

HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: HighwayBill: Gulper Eel: That's nice that you've all burnished your more-careful-than-thou and anti-capitalist bona fides, but in the meantime the state and governments that actually provide the services we need are massively short on the tax revenue that they budgeted for. And unlike the hacks in Washington, your local government has to maintain some semblance of contact with reality and does not get to conjure money out of the ether.

Which means the layoffs are beginning.

You say government workers are essential for civil society? That's nice. Got the tax revenue to pay them? No? 

(wellbye.jpeg)

Maybe some of the billions poured into the stock market and airlines and corporate ceo bonuses could have been used for this?

Take it up with the congressmembers who passed it all but unanimously.

Nice deflector shields you have there.

You got anything with meat on it?

I saw no congressional objections to the multi-trillion-dollar dog's breakfast that was shoved through a bipartisan Congress, save for a couple of grumpy libertarians who were ritually monstered.

Now that the bailout is revealed for the mess it was, the same people who eagerly supported it want to piss, moan, and have it both ways.

You asked where the tax revenue was that could pay state and local government employees, and I provided an answer that pointed out where that tax revenue went. Simple as that.


Glad you see there's a problem with the spending. Too bad nobody in Washington did.
 
2020-04-17 3:54:16 AM  
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