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(BBC-US)   Denmark has decided to re-open its schools, apparently figuring the horns on the helmets the kids wear will give then enough natural "social distance" to keep them safe   (bbc.com) divider line
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2020-04-15 10:03:13 AM  
because kids are great at following rules, especially those regarding hygiene...
 
2020-04-15 11:43:56 AM  
with give then?
 
2020-04-15 1:39:01 PM  
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2020-04-15 1:40:05 PM  
Melancholy kills viruses anyway.
 
2020-04-15 1:42:40 PM  
I had may own horned helmet as a kid and wanted to grow up to be a viking. Turns out, not a growth industry back when I graduated HS. Kinda hoping COVID sends us back to the dark ages so I can live out my dream. Maybe Denmark can come up with some sort of affirmative action program to recruit Latino vikings.
 
2020-04-15 1:43:42 PM  

kbronsito: I had may own horned helmet as a kid and wanted to grow up to be a viking. Turns out, not a growth industry back when I graduated HS. Kinda hoping COVID sends us back to the dark ages so I can live out my dream. Maybe Denmark can come up with some sort of affirmative action program to recruit Latino vikings.


Cultural appropriation isn't cool.
 
2020-04-15 1:43:45 PM  
children are the foulest little creatures imaginable.

i remember walking from school to my grandmother's house and being locked out.  i was heavily burdened after the walk home and had to shed load.  You know, a brownout on the system.  so, i walked to the far corner of the large property behind the greenhouse and dropped trout.

well, decades pass.  now there's a 60 foot palm tree rooted there that my grandmother absolutely hates.  i wonder if i should ever tell her the truth of it

anyway, yes. kids are foul.
 
2020-04-15 1:47:52 PM  
Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.
 
2020-04-15 1:47:55 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: because kids are great at following rules, especially those regarding hygiene...


Of course it only works when everyone wears them.

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2020-04-15 1:49:13 PM  

FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.


Legitimate opinion.
 
2020-04-15 1:49:31 PM  
We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?
 
2020-04-15 1:51:09 PM  

Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?


As long as you're cool with a certain percentage of those children dying from the virus then no problem.
 
2020-04-15 1:52:25 PM  
I keep wondering how the hell people are going to react when the virus makes a big comeback in late May/early June.

In some cases places already figure they have enough capacity to handle the issue.

Must be nice.
 
2020-04-15 1:53:06 PM  

physt: Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?

As long as you're cool with a certain percentage of those children dying from the virus then no problem.


The kids themselves probably won't die because of this, but some of their parents and grandparents likely will.
 
2020-04-15 1:53:09 PM  
"Alas, poor Danes! I knew them, Horatio: fellows
of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: they hath
borne me on their backs a thousand times; and now, how
abhorred in my imagination it is!
 
2020-04-15 1:54:07 PM  

Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.

Legitimate opinion.


Man, I'm fine with people disagreeing.  I'm fine with people who say it's not worth the risk, as long as they acknowledge the social and economic harm we're doing.  But people acting like shut-downs are some no-brainer, morally virtuous decision are fundamentalists who can't be reasoned with.  Millenials, just after enduring the Great Recession, are being forced to endure Great Depression 2:  Electric Boogaloo for a disease that (at least in Florida) has killed people with an average age of 78.
 
2020-04-15 1:55:49 PM  

physt: Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?

As long as you're cool with a certain percentage of those children dying from the virus then no problem.


I don't think the plan is to keep kids from ever being exposed. I don't think that's possible.
 
2020-04-15 1:56:11 PM  
Ours will probably open May 3 if everything stays solid until then.
 
2020-04-15 1:58:25 PM  

physt: Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?

As long as you're cool with a certain percentage of those children dying from the virus then no problem.


More people over the age of one hundred have died of COVID than people under the age of 30.

If you're arguing for the safety of the children's grandparents, I get it.  I disagree, but I respect the decision.  But if you're arguing for their safety, there are 5,000 things more dangerous to them than COVID.
 
2020-04-15 1:59:47 PM  

arcgear: children are the foulest little creatures imaginable.

i remember walking from school to my grandmother's house and being locked out.  i was heavily burdened after the walk home and had to shed load.  You know, a brownout on the system.  so, i walked to the far corner of the large property behind the greenhouse and dropped trout.

well, decades pass.  now there's a 60 foot palm tree rooted there that my grandmother absolutely hates.  i wonder if i should ever tell her the truth of it

anyway, yes. kids are foul.


Seems like you omitted a key detail: why did you carry a fish to school?
 
2020-04-15 2:03:25 PM  

FLMountainMan: Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.

Legitimate opinion.

Man, I'm fine with people disagreeing.  I'm fine with people who say it's not worth the risk, as long as they acknowledge the social and economic harm we're doing.  But people acting like shut-downs are some no-brainer, morally virtuous decision are fundamentalists who can't be reasoned with.  Millenials, just after enduring the Great Recession, are being forced to endure Great Depression 2:  Electric Boogaloo for a disease that (at least in Florida) has killed people with an average age of 78.


I'm sure lots of other people have legitimate concern about the socioeconomic dynamics at play here.
 
2020-04-15 2:09:02 PM  

FLMountainMan: Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.

Legitimate opinion.

Man, I'm fine with people disagreeing.  I'm fine with people who say it's not worth the risk, as long as they acknowledge the social and economic harm we're doing.  But people acting like shut-downs are some no-brainer, morally virtuous decision are fundamentalists who can't be reasoned with.  Millenials, just after enduring the Great Recession, are being forced to endure Great Depression 2:  Electric Boogaloo for a disease that (at least in Florida) has killed people with an average age of 78.


You just have to mention killing old white people and suddenly Fark posters are on your side.
 
2020-04-15 2:09:57 PM  

Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.

Legitimate opinion.

Man, I'm fine with people disagreeing.  I'm fine with people who say it's not worth the risk, as long as they acknowledge the social and economic harm we're doing.  But people acting like shut-downs are some no-brainer, morally virtuous decision are fundamentalists who can't be reasoned with.  Millenials, just after enduring the Great Recession, are being forced to endure Great Depression 2:  Electric Boogaloo for a disease that (at least in Florida) has killed people with an average age of 78.

I'm sure lots of other people have legitimate concern about the socioeconomic dynamics at play here.


You're right.  I'm confusing online opinions with actual opinions.  Which are night and day in most instances.
 
2020-04-15 2:10:51 PM  
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2020-04-15 2:13:26 PM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: FLMountainMan: Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.

Legitimate opinion.

Man, I'm fine with people disagreeing.  I'm fine with people who say it's not worth the risk, as long as they acknowledge the social and economic harm we're doing.  But people acting like shut-downs are some no-brainer, morally virtuous decision are fundamentalists who can't be reasoned with.  Millenials, just after enduring the Great Recession, are being forced to endure Great Depression 2:  Electric Boogaloo for a disease that (at least in Florida) has killed people with an average age of 78.

You just have to mention killing old white people and suddenly Fark posters are on your side.


It's an interesting antidote to political cynicism, isn't it?  Like Republicans and abortion, Democrats are opposing policies (lifting the lockdowns) which run against their own political interests.  I'm dangerously close to feeling like some people's political opinions are genuine.  Yuck.  I need to go jump in the politics tab.
 
2020-04-15 2:14:22 PM  

Excelsior: physt: Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?

As long as you're cool with a certain percentage of those children dying from the virus then no problem.

The kids themselves probably won't die because of this, but some of their parents and grandparents and teachers likely will.

 
2020-04-15 2:16:00 PM  

FLMountainMan: Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.

Legitimate opinion.

Man, I'm fine with people disagreeing.  I'm fine with people who say it's not worth the risk, as long as they acknowledge the social and economic harm we're doing.  But people acting like shut-downs are some no-brainer, morally virtuous decision are fundamentalists who can't be reasoned with.  Millenials, just after enduring the Great Recession, are being forced to endure Great Depression 2:  Electric Boogaloo for a disease that (at least in Florida) has killed people with an average age of 78.


See, that's the point of making sure that there are stimulus checks being sent out, so that people can still afford their normal expenses. Or, making sure there are enough tests around to enforce testing and quarantining so that we can easily find people who are infected and prevent them from infecting others.

Thing is, even if the powers that be order things to be "opened up", people will still stay home voluntarily, because they're afraid. The economy will still suck, until the time comes when people are confident that 1) the virus is gone, or 2) the virus can be easily treated / vaccinated against.
 
2020-04-15 2:22:43 PM  

Arkanaut: See, that's the point of making sure that there are stimulus checks being sent out, so that people can still afford their normal expenses.


You typed this with a straight face didn't you?  "Hey, sorry about that $40,000/year job you lost so Ethel and Norman could survive another three years down in Boca.  Here's rent for a month or two.  We cool?"
 
2020-04-15 2:32:26 PM  

FLMountainMan: Rapmaster2000: FLMountainMan: Some people are so invested in this being an apocalypse, I'm not sure how we can convince them to put their big boy pants on and stop this madness.  We're killing the young and the brown to save the old, rich, and white.

Legitimate opinion.

Man, I'm fine with people disagreeing.  I'm fine with people who say it's not worth the risk, as long as they acknowledge the social and economic harm we're doing.  But people acting like shut-downs are some no-brainer, morally virtuous decision are fundamentalists who can't be reasoned with.  Millenials, just after enduring the Great Recession, are being forced to endure Great Depression 2:  Electric Boogaloo for a disease that (at least in Florida) has killed people with an average age of 78.


Be careful, there are people around here who would want you indicted for murder for spreading this message.
 
2020-04-15 2:33:45 PM  
Denmark was one of the countries that took swift action at the very beginning.  Maybe they are ready to start back up again.
 
2020-04-15 2:48:26 PM  
Moderator, a correction on this headline was sent over two hours ago.
 
2020-04-15 2:51:38 PM  
Viking helmets didn't have horns.
 
2020-04-15 3:03:21 PM  

arcgear: i remember walking from school to my grandmother's house and being locked out.  i was heavily burdened after the walk home and had to shed load.  You know, a brownout on the system.  so, i walked to the far corner of the large property behind the greenhouse and dropped trout.


For the past few years I've been calling it "Putting a Trump in the Whitehouse".
 
2020-04-15 3:36:48 PM  

FLMountainMan: Arkanaut: See, that's the point of making sure that there are stimulus checks being sent out, so that people can still afford their normal expenses.

You typed this with a straight face didn't you?  "Hey, sorry about that $40,000/year job you lost so Ethel and Norman could survive another three years down in Boca.  Here's rent for a month or two.  We cool?"


It should definitely be more than just the rent check, and definitely more than a month or two!

Also, there are more than twice as many deaths in NYC PER DAY right now than murders PLUS traffic deaths for all of last year. Plus thousands of people are incapacitated in the hospital or at home. It's about a bit more than just retirees!
 
2020-04-15 4:16:12 PM  

relaxitsjustme: Viking helmets didn't have horns.


Norsemen "Viking fashion"
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2020-04-15 4:26:36 PM  

Arkanaut: FLMountainMan: Arkanaut: See, that's the point of making sure that there are stimulus checks being sent out, so that people can still afford their normal expenses.

You typed this with a straight face didn't you?  "Hey, sorry about that $40,000/year job you lost so Ethel and Norman could survive another three years down in Boca.  Here's rent for a month or two.  We cool?"

It should definitely be more than just the rent check, and definitely more than a month or two!

Also, there are more than twice as many deaths in NYC PER DAY right now than murders PLUS traffic deaths for all of last year. Plus thousands of people are incapacitated in the hospital or at home. It's about a bit more than just retirees!


You really want to cite New York's deaths per day in light of today's admission that they've been inflating their numbers?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/ny​r​egion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html​

And even accepting their garbage numbers,

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1​1​09867/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-n​ew-york-city/

Yes, it's mostly retirement age people.
 
2020-04-15 5:43:01 PM  

lindalouwho: Moderator, a correction on this headline was sent over two hours ago.


needs more trout
 
2020-04-15 6:03:06 PM  

FLMountainMan: Arkanaut: FLMountainMan: Arkanaut: See, that's the point of making sure that there are stimulus checks being sent out, so that people can still afford their normal expenses.

You typed this with a straight face didn't you?  "Hey, sorry about that $40,000/year job you lost so Ethel and Norman could survive another three years down in Boca.  Here's rent for a month or two.  We cool?"

It should definitely be more than just the rent check, and definitely more than a month or two!

Also, there are more than twice as many deaths in NYC PER DAY right now than murders PLUS traffic deaths for all of last year. Plus thousands of people are incapacitated in the hospital or at home. It's about a bit more than just retirees!

You really want to cite New York's deaths per day in light of today's admission that they've been inflating their numbers?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyr​egion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html​


Umm, there are definitely people who have died of coronavirus who haven't officially "tested positive". The exact numbers are hazy but to say we can't count them is being extremely presumptuous.

And even accepting their garbage numbers,

https://www.statista.com/statistics/11​09867/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-n​ew-york-city/

Yes, it's mostly retirement age people.


Also, "retirees" is a little different from "three years left to live". The average 75-year-old can still reasonably look forward to a solid decade-plus of enjoying their retirement. And also, your chart is showing the rate of death breakdown per 100,000, not what proportion of New Yorkers dying are those ages. Obviously it's impacting older people more, but since most New Yorkers are 20-55 years old, (and because most people are retiring around 70 now instead of 65), that means that 35% or so of people who are dying from coronavirus are dying before they reach retirement age.

https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/​v​iews/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-1​9Tracker-Fatalities?%3Aembed=yes&%3Ato​olbar=no&%3Atabs=n
 
2020-04-15 7:01:30 PM  
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2020-04-15 7:18:13 PM  
Arkanaut:

It should definitely be more than just the rent check, and definitely more than a month or two!

How far do you think $1200 stretches? It isn't even "more than a month or two" of rent here in BFE.
 
2020-04-15 7:28:46 PM  

meerclarschild: Arkanaut:

It should definitely be more than just the rent check, and definitely more than a month or two!

How far do you think $1200 stretches? It isn't even "more than a month or two" of rent here in BFE.


I agree, the fiscal response has so far been woefully inadequate for most Americans.
 
2020-04-15 7:31:30 PM  

Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?


THIS !  Those who haven't gotten it yet will, at some point..  hopefully more meds will be available soon, and do not hold your breath for a vaccine..  we don't have one for HIV or SARS yet, and won't for a while, if ever... everybody is running scared, while the flu puts more in hospitals and underground and we are ho-hum about that, and hospitals were not maxxed out... and they aren't maxxed out now..   and 75 % of the ventilators we just had to have are sitting idle or being sold to the most panicked.... looks like Mother Nature's way of weeding out the weak and infirm, courtesy of sloppy practices via Wuhan Biolab..  When it,s your time to go, so be it.
 
2020-04-15 11:13:43 PM  

physt: Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?

As long as you're cool with a certain percentage of those children dying from the virus then no problem.


No child under 10 years old has died in the US from Covid-19.   

The main risk is allowing them back home with 45 year old dad with diabetes and hypertension.
 
2020-04-16 12:49:02 AM  

simkatu: physt: Earl of Chives: We are all going to get exposed to this thing sooner or later. If Denmark's hospitals aren't overcapacity why not send the kids to school?

As long as you're cool with a certain percentage of those children dying from the virus then no problem.

No child under 10 years old has died in the US from Covid-19.   

The main risk is allowing them back home with 45 year old dad with diabetes and hypertension.


https://www.livescience.com/us-infant​-​dies-coronavirus.html
 
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