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2020-04-14 6:30:17 PM  
Something like this should be implemented everywhere.
 
2020-04-14 6:57:43 PM  
1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.
 
2020-04-14 7:04:22 PM  

west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.


Whelp, its going to be a loooooong lock down then, since I can see maybe 3 of those items being completed within the next 6 months,
 
2020-04-14 9:01:22 PM  
1. Testing
2. Testing
3. Testing
4. Testing
5. Testing
6. Testing
 
2020-04-14 9:25:34 PM  
It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.
 
2020-04-14 9:29:23 PM  
7. Everyone must kiss his ring and tell him how he alone saved their lives.

Oh wait, this isn't Trump. Never mind, strike that.
 
2020-04-14 9:29:50 PM  
1. Auntie tells me so
2. Auntie tells me so
3. Auntie tells me so
4. Auntie tells me so
5. Auntie tells me so
6. Auntie tells me so
 
2020-04-14 9:30:09 PM  
I'm glad Wilbur Ross didn't live to see this day.
 
2020-04-14 9:30:16 PM  
Yea, we just got word our modified procedures are extended to May 8th and chances are it will be bumped back even further.  I am considered an essential worker (despite my best efforts) and still getting paid so as far as my living conditions I am fine. This is going to be tough on the millions of people out of work who are living in a very expensive environment as moving is difficult in these times and it is not as if economic conditions are better elsewhere. Those standards are going to be rough to meet depending on how robust they will be enforced and are reliant on technology still being developed (antibody test) and has to be proven with widespread availablity. Even when we reopen, there is going to be an abosolute shiatstorm of backlog to deal with that I dread.
 
2020-04-14 9:30:35 PM  
Watched his address on my local news and he sounded like an actual leader, what with a plan and all.  What a nice change from what we have been seeing from the White House
 
2020-04-14 9:31:32 PM  
7. "...and you must bring me..."

DRAMATIC CHORD

"...a shrubbery!"
 
2020-04-14 9:32:59 PM  

Captain Orr: It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.


I mean, he's still a rich prick from a rich prick family. He would just as happily been a republican if that's the way the wind was blowing. Jerry Brown is big shoes to fill though, as far as professional civil servants go. I disagreed with him a bunch, but he tried to be fair and balanced and was happy to work his ass off at many different levels. Plus, Linda Ronstadt in her prime.
 
2020-04-14 9:34:02 PM  

jammer2k: Watched his address on my local news and he sounded like an actual leader, what with a plan and all.  What a nice change from what we have been seeing from the White House


What's the plan to keep everyone fed and sheltered in the meantime?
 
2020-04-14 9:35:26 PM  

jammer2k: Watched his address on my local news and he sounded like an actual leader, what with a plan and all.  What a nice change from what we have been seeing from the White House


His problem is, if you listen to him regularly, he is in love with jargon and corporate/political speak so often times he doesn't sound human. So far he is making decent decisions, but it would be nice if his cyborg programming allowed for him to plainly speak without the filter of dozens of consultants. I certainly don't want Trump, but he does sometimes get lost in gibberish which can hurt his overall message of competent leadership.
 
2020-04-14 9:36:11 PM  
secession  ?
 
2020-04-14 9:37:18 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Something like this should be implemented everywhere.


California started telling people to shelter in place before everyone. Newsom secured supplies and started sharing with other states before everyone. It shows in the results - even though the infections started on the West Coast, California has fewer infections than Massachusetts at this point. California has led the rest of the entire country. Newsom might as well be the President as far as fighting COVID is concerned.

I was lukewarm on Newsom before all this; now I want him to be the next president. I have no idea why people keep lionizing Cuomo.
 
2020-04-14 9:38:06 PM  
Welp.  Those are higher than my criteria:

1:  I have to be able to keep my appetite in her presence.

B). I have to be able to lift her unassisted.

/wait
//never mind
 
2020-04-14 9:38:49 PM  
Good luck achieving 1/3 of that as stated before the murders begin.
 
2020-04-14 9:40:02 PM  

drewogatory: Captain Orr: It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.

I mean, he's still a rich prick from a rich prick family. He would just as happily been a republican if that's the way the wind was blowing. Jerry Brown is big shoes to fill though, as far as professional civil servants go. I disagreed with him a bunch, but he tried to be fair and balanced and was happy to work his ass off at many different levels. Plus, Linda Ronstadt in her prime.


I admit he didn't get my vote for similar reasons that you cite. However, he has risen to the occasion better than I ever anticipated and helped to ensure the health & well-being of all Californians. I only wish that more of our nation's leadership were also capable of putting aside partisan nonsense and focusing on the urgent crisis before us.
 
2020-04-14 9:42:10 PM  
There is only one way out of this in the foreseeable future. Every single person in America must have a PLENTIFUL supply of N95 masks and medical quality gloves, or else this is GOING TO LAST WELL INTO 2020!

The Federal government should have been making businesses change their manufacturing to make these two items in the hundreds of millions for ALL AMERICANS back in Mid March, not just worrying about if first responders had enough and that was it.

You think the average American will take themselves and their family's lives in the hands of strangers when Mom and/or Dad goes into work unprepared, using a cut up t-shirt as their only means of face protection? C'mon! Tens of millions of people will never leave their house unless it's for food until one of two things happens:

#1: Every single person in America has a readily disposable supply of personal PPE, so they can feel safe going anywhere on a daily basis.

#2: A vaccine that has proven to work and has hundreds of millions of doses available, and is free so any person, no matter the income level, can get one.

Until then, you can forget about restarting the economy. It's not going to happen. Which of those 2 options you think will come first? No matter which one you pick, you can forget about life returning back to normal in 2020 at this rate.
 
2020-04-14 9:42:30 PM  

Captain Orr: drewogatory: Captain Orr: It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.

I mean, he's still a rich prick from a rich prick family. He would just as happily been a republican if that's the way the wind was blowing. Jerry Brown is big shoes to fill though, as far as professional civil servants go. I disagreed with him a bunch, but he tried to be fair and balanced and was happy to work his ass off at many different levels. Plus, Linda Ronstadt in her prime.

I admit he didn't get my vote for similar reasons that you cite. However, he has risen to the occasion better than I ever anticipated and helped to ensure the health & well-being of all Californians. I only wish that more of our nation's leadership were also capable of putting aside partisan nonsense and focusing on the urgent crisis before us.


I agree. He still loves to sign silly laws though.
 
2020-04-14 9:47:22 PM  
I wish he would stop talking about the homeless and actually do something. San Francisco didn't start moving their homeless into hotels (which is something Newsom said he would do like 2 weeks ago) until YESTERDAY. Here in Sac I don't think anything has been done. Whats the point in social distancing for everyone else when there are walking talking virus vectors on the streets?
 
2020-04-14 9:48:18 PM  

west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.


So, maybe this winter?
 
2020-04-14 9:48:49 PM  

cirby: 7. "...and you must bring me..."

DRAMATIC CHORD

"...a shrubbery!"


1) a shrubbery
2) another shrubbery
3) a nice two-level effect
4) a path
5) the mightiest tree in the forest
6) a herring
 
2020-04-14 9:50:42 PM  

tpmchris: jammer2k: Watched his address on my local news and he sounded like an actual leader, what with a plan and all.  What a nice change from what we have been seeing from the White House

What's the plan to keep everyone fed and sheltered in the meantime?


Kill and eat the weak.
 
2020-04-14 9:52:24 PM  
We only need one thing, but it's probably a year away.

A vaccine.
 
2020-04-14 9:52:41 PM  

west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.


Interesting to put this in context of AIDS/HIV. We didn't manage three of these for 30 years, and arguably still can't accomplish #2.
 
2020-04-14 9:55:34 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Something like this should be implemented everywhere.


Most adults want to be controlled so they do not have to accept responsibility for their actions. For effs sake, the kids accept their lack of rights until 21 years old. It's insane.

Well that's enough adult thinking this week. I'm off to hoard some more toilet paper.
 
2020-04-14 9:56:03 PM  

west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.


Reading it again, #5 is impossible.

Social distancing is incompatible with the purpose of schools and day cares. Teaching socialization is a fundamental aspect of their mission.
 
2020-04-14 9:58:03 PM  

west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.


Can we finally tell the fatties to stop eating themselves to death or get the idiots outside that "need" climate control constantly?

/Stop changing the thermostat you fat fphark!
 
2020-04-14 9:59:03 PM  

Captain Orr: It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.


Ah the ye olde pronunciation.
 
2020-04-14 9:59:41 PM  

This text is now purple: west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.

Reading it again, #5 is impossible.

Social distancing is incompatible with the purpose of schools and day cares. Teaching socialization is a fundamental aspect of their mission.


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-04-14 10:06:08 PM  

Red Barchetta: There is only one way out of this in the foreseeable future. Every single person in America must have a PLENTIFUL supply of N95 masks and medical quality gloves, or else this is GOING TO LAST WELL INTO 2020!

The Federal government should have been making businesses change their manufacturing to make these two items in the hundreds of millions for ALL AMERICANS back in Mid March, not just worrying about if first responders had enough and that was it.

You think the average American will take themselves and their family's lives in the hands of strangers when Mom and/or Dad goes into work unprepared, using a cut up t-shirt as their only means of face protection? C'mon! Tens of millions of people will never leave their house unless it's for food until one of two things happens:

#1: Every single person in America has a readily disposable supply of personal PPE, so they can feel safe going anywhere on a daily basis.

#2: A vaccine that has proven to work and has hundreds of millions of doses available, and is free so any person, no matter the income level, can get one.

Until then, you can forget about restarting the economy. It's not going to happen. Which of those 2 options you think will come first? No matter which one you pick, you can forget about life returning back to normal in 2020 at this rate.


Here here
 
2020-04-14 10:06:25 PM  

west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.


7. Deport all illegal aliens.
 
2020-04-14 10:09:39 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: This text is now purple: west.la.lawyer: 1 - the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases,
2- prevent infection of high-risk people,
3- prepare hospitals to handle surges,
4 - develop therapeutics to meet demand,
5 - ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and
6 - develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary.

Reading it again, #5 is impossible.

Social distancing is incompatible with the purpose of schools and day cares. Teaching socialization is a fundamental aspect of their mission.

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It won't be normal, but it is a step in that direction. Daycare is technically easy, you simply mandate fewer kids to allow for distancing but good luck making that economically feasible.  As for your elementary, middle, and high schools you just have to reduce class sizes to allow for distancing.  Perhaps modify the programming so that instead of 1 long day, you have a morning group and an afternoon group and rotate teachers instead of students (doesn't work well for science labs).  It won't be the same, but at least it will get organized education back functioning.

This is a crisis so you can't let perfect be the enemy of the good to try and get things running again.  Reducing risk with what you can do while trying to get things functional so we don't have students losing a year of education progress sitting at home playing fortnight and doing worksheets.  We aren't close to reopening right now but there does need to be some flexibility in expectations as we work to get back to normal.
 
2020-04-14 10:10:37 PM  

Daedalus27: jammer2k: Watched his address on my local news and he sounded like an actual leader, what with a plan and all.  What a nice change from what we have been seeing from the White House

His problem is, if you listen to him regularly, he is in love with jargon and corporate/political speak so often times he doesn't sound human. So far he is making decent decisions, but it would be nice if his cyborg programming allowed for him to plainly speak without the filter of dozens of consultants. I certainly don't want Trump, but he does sometimes get lost in gibberish which can hurt his overall message of competent leadership.


If the Dems in 2024 trot out another tired old guard "hero" to take his/her turn at being the nominee instead of any of the clear leaders that have emerged out of this crisis (CUOMO)... !!!!
 
2020-04-14 10:13:50 PM  
Quite subjective and impossible to empirically track.

Hero indeed.

Sounds good now until Californians see how well the rest of the country is doing in states which don't have such laughable measures and they grab their torches and pitchforks.
 
2020-04-14 10:14:05 PM  

Daedalus27: This is a crisis so you can't let perfect be the enemy of the good to try and get things running again.


Public education is both compulsory and access and effective use is a civil right.

This is the flip-side to seizing power and demanding uniformity -- you have to do it even when it sucks.
 
2020-04-14 10:14:18 PM  

Captain Orr: It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.


I knewsomebody would correct subby eventually.
 
2020-04-14 10:14:38 PM  

leviosaurus: GreatGlavinsGhost: Something like this should be implemented everywhere.

California started telling people to shelter in place before everyone. Newsom secured supplies and started sharing with other states before everyone. It shows in the results - even though the infections started on the West Coast, California has fewer infections than Massachusetts at this point. California has led the rest of the entire country. Newsom might as well be the President as far as fighting COVID is concerned.

I was lukewarm on Newsom before all this; now I want him to be the next president. I have no idea why people keep lionizing Cuomo.


East Coast bias, and leader of the hotspot.

Western states have generally moved before DC does, while the East usually waits for DC's say.

In the era of Trump, waiting or adhering to the say of DC is a detriment.

/DeBlasio farked up far more in NYC too
 
2020-04-14 10:14:46 PM  

Daedalus27: Daycare is technically easy, you simply mandate fewer kids to allow for distancing but good luck making that economically feasible.


If your staff maintains a 2m separation from infants, they are abusing them.
 
2020-04-14 10:20:03 PM  

drewogatory: Captain Orr: It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.

I mean, he's still a rich prick from a rich prick family. He would just as happily been a republican if that's the way the wind was blowing. Jerry Brown is big shoes to fill though, as far as professional civil servants go. I disagreed with him a bunch, but he tried to be fair and balanced and was happy to work his ass off at many different levels. Plus, Linda Ronstadt in her prime.


Hey, Gavin banged the wife of one his close personal friends who worked in his campaign...and then blamed it on alcohol abuse.
 
2020-04-14 10:23:06 PM  

This text is now purple: Daedalus27: Daycare is technically easy, you simply mandate fewer kids to allow for distancing but good luck making that economically feasible.

If your staff maintains a 2m separation from infants, they are abusing them.


That's the safe distance to avoid retching when one of them has the trots and a diaper blowout.
 
2020-04-14 10:23:51 PM  

gar1013: This text is now purple: Daedalus27: Daycare is technically easy, you simply mandate fewer kids to allow for distancing but good luck making that economically feasible.

If your staff maintains a 2m separation from infants, they are abusing them.

That's the safe distance to avoid retching when one of them has the trots and a diaper blowout.


That's not nearly enough. An infant can generate a pants-load that would disgust a hobo.
 
2020-04-14 10:24:16 PM  

This text is now purple: tpmchris: jammer2k: Watched his address on my local news and he sounded like an actual leader, what with a plan and all.  What a nice change from what we have been seeing from the White House

What's the plan to keep everyone fed and sheltered in the meantime?

Kill and eat the weak.


BUT NOT IN A WET MARKET
 
2020-04-14 10:24:47 PM  
Well, this sounds a little more thorough than the King in Orange's plan:

1. Open the economy to make stockholders happy.
 
2020-04-14 10:25:19 PM  

Captain Orr: It's "Newsom".  Sounds a lot like "awesome", but spelled differently.


It rhymes with "gruesome"
 
2020-04-14 10:25:53 PM  
Opposite sides of the political divide, but Governor Newsom and Governor DeWine (Ohio) have both impressed me with their handling of the epidemic so far.

Paid attention to what was coming, took steps early, and kept things from being as bad as they could have been.
 
2020-04-14 10:27:22 PM  

Red Barchetta: No matter which one you pick, you can forget about life returning back to normal in 2020 at this rate


I hear ya. Today I went to buy camouflage trousers but I couldn't find any.
 
2020-04-14 10:27:47 PM  

duenor: Daedalus27: jammer2k: Watched his address on my local news and he sounded like an actual leader, what with a plan and all.  What a nice change from what we have been seeing from the White House

His problem is, if you listen to him regularly, he is in love with jargon and corporate/political speak so often times he doesn't sound human. So far he is making decent decisions, but it would be nice if his cyborg programming allowed for him to plainly speak without the filter of dozens of consultants. I certainly don't want Trump, but he does sometimes get lost in gibberish which can hurt his overall message of competent leadership.

If the Dems in 2024 trot out another tired old guard "hero" to take his/her turn at being the nominee instead of any of the clear leaders that have emerged out of this crisis (CUOMO)... !!!!


Cuomo sucked at recognizing the beginning.  Why is NY the current epicenter?  Cuomo's delays.
 
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