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(CNN)   Review of the US administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic shows the President didn't treat it like a hoax. He pays far more attention to hoaxes   (cnn.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Federal Bureau of Investigation, President of the United States, Hillary Rodham Clinton, United States, Deep State, United States Senate, Donald Trump, Mr. Trump's response  
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2020-04-13 3:45:55 PM  
The damage that Fox News has done to this nation now has an actual body count.
 
2020-04-13 4:17:34 PM  
A million people have and will write millions of words about this particular president, but I think it essentially boils down to this: Trump is an idiot that thinks he's a genius.

A good example is when he visited the CDC a few weeks ago, and was bragging about his own scientific expertice. Trump said "Every one of those scientists asked me, 'How do you know so much about this?'"

First of all, that's a transparent lie. No doctor, much less every doctor, is going to be so amazed by the president's knowledge of any subject that they are compelled to ask the president how they obtained it. Presidents get the best briefings available and most times aren't total morons. But in Trump's telling, every doctor was wide eyed with amazement and had to ask, again and again, how the president could possibly know so much. The reason he lied was so that he would have an excuse to tell everyone how he knows how smart he is.

Trump believes the reason that he knows so much about science is that his uncle was a professor at MIT, and that Donnie must therefore have a natural understanding of science because of his good genes. Trump really believes this. To him, the whole "studying" and "learning" parts of scientific knowledge are insignificant when evaluating an individual's understanding of science. He believes that most, if not all, of a person's scientific understanding just comes naturally to someone who is smart. And if you have a smart relative, you must also be smart as well. This is all stuff Trump really and truly believes.

So, it is no surprise that Trump was getting all these warnings, looking at the situation, and thinking to himself, "I'm smarter than all these eggheads. They're all just out to get me anyway."
 
2020-04-13 5:40:49 PM  
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2020-04-13 5:52:15 PM  
Is the NYT piece the thing that set off the advance Trump meltdown?
 
2020-04-13 6:04:08 PM  
The problem for Trump is that independent investigators have concluded that there just wasn't much there there in these cases.

That just proves how far up the conspiracy goes!
 
2020-04-13 6:07:20 PM  
The idea of some sort of broad-scale bureaucratic effort to bring Trump down emerged from conservative message boards on sites like Reddit -- influenced by the conspiracy theories being spun by the QAnon movement on 4Chan and 8Chan -- early in Trump's term. Conservative media types -- led by the likes of Fox's Sean Hannity -- carried the idea into the mainstream of conservative thought.

"Hannity", "conservative", "QAnon", "4chan and 8chan".  All things that are out of place in a sentence that ends in "thought".
 
2020-04-13 6:50:31 PM  
People don't change the passage of time servers merely to accentuate that which is already there
 
2020-04-13 6:56:36 PM  

jake_lex: The damage that Fox News has done to this nation now has an actual body count.


This is not a repeat from 2003-2011.
 
2020-04-13 6:56:44 PM  
Three Crooked Squirrels:

Conservative thought.

They were very particular about the wording there.
 
2020-04-13 7:02:35 PM  
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2020-04-13 7:04:00 PM  
What He lacks in ability , He compensates with paranoia ..
 
2020-04-13 7:08:50 PM  
Trump is a paranoid idiot that can't take responsibility for anything or demonstrate any leadership? Color me pink, I'm shocked.
 
2020-04-13 7:11:36 PM  
Everyone in this administration needs to be strung up. Crimes against humanity.
 
2020-04-13 7:18:27 PM  

jake_lex: The damage that Fox News has done to this nation now has an actual body count.


We all knew it would one day
 
2020-04-13 7:19:31 PM  

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If he was Human he would actually be crying. How can you stand and talk about it and not be moved, ever? I have cried and I don't know personally know anyone directly affected yet, but when you think about it all it is just too tragic for words.
 
2020-04-13 7:26:47 PM  
Stolen from somewhere else:
It's as if we are fighting WWII and half the country doesn't believe Germany exists.
 
2020-04-13 7:28:56 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: The idea of some sort of broad-scale bureaucratic effort to bring Trump down emerged from conservative message boards on sites like Reddit -- influenced by the conspiracy theories being spun by the QAnon movement on 4Chan and 8Chan -- early in Trump's term. Conservative media types -- led by the likes of Fox's Sean Hannity -- carried the idea into the mainstream of conservative thought.

"Hannity", "conservative", "QAnon", "4chan and 8chan".  All things that are out of place in a sentence that ends in "thought".


Eh. I like what you're aiming for, but a thought is just a thought: colorless green ideas vote conservative furiously, or I am a yacht, and I should buy a yacht, or They're all my girlfriends, but I'll let you have one for now, Leno.

You are right, though. A more appropriate word could be thinking, but thinking brings the implication of logical criticism of the thinking methodologies. Perhaps a more appropriate word would be guesswork, because at least that has the violent stab-in-the-dark sensibility to it, like Fernt's posts.

Yet more accurate, I believe, would be the word 'process', because with a process we can set aside such norms as honesty and logic, and identify the Bovine University of what's actually taking place.

Fortunately, it has been perfectly well described many decades ago:

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

It's not thought, it's not thinking. It's a reaction process. You push a door to open it; it pushes back. The reason it pushes back is because the door is an asshole.
 
2020-04-13 7:30:04 PM  

Tman144: Stolen from somewhere else:
It's as if we are fighting WWII and half the country doesn't believe Germany exists.


Half of Germany belongs to Russia by right of conquest

etc etc
 
2020-04-13 7:41:34 PM  

jake_lex: The damage that Fox News has done to this nation now has an actual body count.


It has for a long time.  But before it was measured in American soldiers and Iraqi civilians, in poor people that couldn't afford medical care and immigrants that died crossing the desert on foot.

Now it's just measured in American lives.
 
2020-04-13 7:43:35 PM  
Fake news no collusion total corona nation.
 
2020-04-13 7:50:47 PM  
He paid more attention to his daughter Tiffany.
 
2020-04-13 8:13:01 PM  
An EXCLUSIVE look into Trump's mind during today's briefing:

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2020-04-13 8:21:13 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: A million people have and will write millions of words about this particular president, but I think it essentially boils down to this: Trump is an idiot that thinks he's a genius.

A good example is when he visited the CDC a few weeks ago, and was bragging about his own scientific expertice. Trump said "Every one of those scientists asked me, 'How do you know so much about this?'"

First of all, that's a transparent lie. No doctor, much less every doctor, is going to be so amazed by the president's knowledge of any subject that they are compelled to ask the president how they obtained it. Presidents get the best briefings available and most times aren't total morons. But in Trump's telling, every doctor was wide eyed with amazement and had to ask, again and again, how the president could possibly know so much. The reason he lied was so that he would have an excuse to tell everyone how he knows how smart he is.

Trump believes the reason that he knows so much about science is that his uncle was a professor at MIT, and that Donnie must therefore have a natural understanding of science because of his good genes. Trump really believes this. To him, the whole "studying" and "learning" parts of scientific knowledge are insignificant when evaluating an individual's understanding of science. He believes that most, if not all, of a person's scientific understanding just comes naturally to someone who is smart. And if you have a smart relative, you must also be smart as well. This is all stuff Trump really and truly believes.

So, it is no surprise that Trump was getting all these warnings, looking at the situation, and thinking to himself, "I'm smarter than all these eggheads. They're all just out to get me anyway."


I think his brain interpreted "there the hell did you hear that?" As "We are asking for your insight as to your incredible knowledge about
things we had never heard of! Please tell us more.".
 
2020-04-13 8:32:58 PM  

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[Minor spoilers, maybe]

There's a scene in Star Trek: Picard* where (non-recurring) characters witness an event from the past that's so enormously traumatizing and horrific it literally drives them mad. As in one blows their brains out, one bashes their own skull in with a rock. I get what the writers were going for, but I kept thinking "Meh...we've probably seen worse this year alone."

I do not like this timeline. I do not like being accustomed to this. However, I would like to see someone recut that vision-and-madness scene with clips of Trump being elected and babbling to the camera as the thing that drives them mad.

* Which is absolutely fantastic, btw, and you should all go watch it now.
 
2020-04-13 9:12:25 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: The idea of some sort of broad-scale bureaucratic effort to bring Trump down emerged from conservative message boards on sites like Reddit -- influenced by the conspiracy theories being spun by the QAnon movement on 4Chan and 8Chan -- early in Trump's term. Conservative media types -- led by the likes of Fox's Sean Hannity -- carried the idea into the mainstream of conservative thought.

"Hannity", "conservative", "QAnon", "4chan and 8chan".  All things that are out of place in a sentence that ends in "thought".


The Deep State conspiracy theory was running along before Trump was inaugurated.

Why?  Because his own supporters knew he would be an incompetent farkwit.

They had the White House, the Senate, the House coontil the mid-terms) the Supreme Court, the majority of governors, and I believe even state legislatures.

They knew from the start they'd need to make excuses for him, and lacking anything tangible, they pulled this Deep State horseshiat out of a website populated by Neo-Nazi child pornography enthusiasts.
 
2020-04-14 3:35:56 AM  

Lochsteppe: Cafe Threads: [Fark user image 425x328]

[Minor spoilers, maybe]

There's a scene in Star Trek: Picard* where (non-recurring) characters witness an event from the past that's so enormously traumatizing and horrific it literally drives them mad. As in one blows their brains out, one bashes their own skull in with a rock. I get what the writers were going for, but I kept thinking "Meh...we've probably seen worse this year alone."

I do not like this timeline. I do not like being accustomed to this. However, I would like to see someone recut that vision-and-madness scene with clips of Trump being elected and babbling to the camera as the thing that drives them mad.

* Which is absolutely fantastic, btw, and you should all go watch it now.


My only problem with that is why would the Romulans accept that the visions they were being shown were legit?  They could have been propaganda made by anti-AI bigots.  Or it could have simply been an ancient alien's idea of a prank.
 
2020-04-14 7:22:24 AM  

fusillade762: Lochsteppe: Cafe Threads: [Fark user image 425x328]

[Minor spoilers, maybe]

There's a scene in Star Trek: Picard* where (non-recurring) characters witness an event from the past that's so enormously traumatizing and horrific it literally drives them mad. As in one blows their brains out, one bashes their own skull in with a rock. I get what the writers were going for, but I kept thinking "Meh...we've probably seen worse this year alone."

I do not like this timeline. I do not like being accustomed to this. However, I would like to see someone recut that vision-and-madness scene with clips of Trump being elected and babbling to the camera as the thing that drives them mad.

* Which is absolutely fantastic, btw, and you should all go watch it now.

My only problem with that is why would the Romulans accept that the visions they were being shown were legit?  They could have been propaganda made by anti-AI bigots.  Or it could have simply been an ancient alien's idea of a prank.


There's a deleted scene in which they verify the security certificate for the vision.
 
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