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(CNN)   China's decided to go with the "it wasn't me" approach to the Covid-19 pandemic, warning universities and academics that any research papers tracing the origins of the outbreak "must be tightly controlled" and approved by the Central Government   (cnn.com) divider line
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2020-04-13 8:47:18 AM  
Pandemics are something that topples Chinese rulers.

/see "mandate of heaven"
//that's what xi said
 
2020-04-13 9:04:02 AM  
I think that this is basically China's Chernobyl.  They didn't create it, this is not something they've done intentionally, and they will be hurt by it as much as anyone else  But their inability to admit fully what happened and allow for a real response has already made this much worse than it needed to be.

Basically, here's their response to COVID-19:

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2020-04-13 9:06:37 AM  
The Shaggy Defense.
 
2020-04-13 9:07:58 AM  
Unless we find out it was released out of pure stupidity or hostility by a national government why bother?   Who cares?
Research the problem, treat the problem, have sex with it's mom.
 
2020-04-13 9:09:32 AM  
It must suck to live in a country who's government is incapable of handling criticism.

/It does.  It really does.
 
2020-04-13 9:10:10 AM  
At least we don't live in a country where the government muzzles public officials talking about this terrible disease.
 
2020-04-13 9:10:45 AM  
"It wasn't me" doesn't work with farts either.
 
2020-04-13 9:10:46 AM  
I'm just glad they gave us the Corona Lite version in my area way back in October . I think I have some immunity to it now .
 
2020-04-13 9:12:52 AM  
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2020-04-13 9:13:03 AM  
Xi calling it the "American Virus" now?

Slothlike American Consumer decides to return valuable Chinese product and coughs virulent disease in to the box before sealing it.  Lazy American postal system does not quarantine the box as they should and it is delivered to hard working, industrious Chinese workers in Wuhan.  The disease escapes and finds the excellent Chinese physiology to be perfect breeding grounds.   Fat American President refuses to take responsibility for global pandemic.  These are his words "I don't take responsibility at all".

As is the norm, China is doomed to suffer for the world.
 
2020-04-13 9:14:02 AM  
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2020-04-13 9:15:15 AM  
Government leaders insisting on secrecy to protect themselves never actually leads to even worse outcomes.
 
2020-04-13 9:15:33 AM  
Next, the Chinese won't take responsibility for the pee pee in your coke.
 
2020-04-13 9:17:10 AM  
F them right up the A. China gov'mint rat bastards were given the heads-up early on. They should be billed for the entire expense. Their gov'mint should be toppled so the citizens can have a free and good quality life.
 
2020-04-13 9:17:20 AM  
 
2020-04-13 9:17:54 AM  

seniorgato: Unless we find out it was released out of pure stupidity or hostility by a national government why bother?   Who cares?
Research the problem, treat the problem, have sex with it's mom.


The Brits seem to think it's plausible that the virus escaped from one of the Chinese government's biological research labs in Wuhan.
 
2020-04-13 9:18:31 AM  

jake_lex: I think that this is basically China's Chernobyl.  They didn't create it, this is not something they've done intentionally, and they will be hurt by it as much as anyone else  But their inability to admit fully what happened and allow for a real response has already made this much worse than it needed to be.

Basically, here's their response to COVID-19:

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They created it by ignoring the health of their citizens.
They enabled it by continuing to say everything was fine while it rampaged through a major city.
They extended it by ignoring the worlds requests to see what was going on, and saying everything was ok, Then, when it became politically sensitive they blamed OTHER COUNTRIES FOR IT rather than taking responsibility for  it.
.
 
2020-04-13 9:19:17 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Xi calling it the "American Virus" now?

Slothlike American Consumer decides to return valuable Chinese product and coughs virulent disease in to the box before sealing it.  Lazy American postal system does not quarantine the box as they should and it is delivered to hard working, industrious Chinese workers in Wuhan.  The disease escapes and finds the excellent Chinese physiology to be perfect breeding grounds.   Fat American President refuses to take responsibility for global pandemic.  These are his words "I don't take responsibility at all".

As is the norm, China is doomed to suffer for the world.


The CCP makes their own people suffer.
 
2020-04-13 9:21:57 AM  
Inb4 some farker cries that it's racist to suggest China has anything to do with COVID-19
 
2020-04-13 9:22:49 AM  

jake_lex: I think that this is basically China's Chernobyl.  They didn't create it, this is not something they've done intentionally, and they will be hurt by it as much as anyone else  But their inability to admit fully what happened and allow for a real response has already made this much worse than it needed to be.

Basically, here's their response to COVID-19:

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Well, but the Soviets did create Chernobyl:
Designed and built w/o containment vessel so it would be cheaper.
Graphite moderated core so they could produce more plutonium.
Authorized (somewhat) experiment to see if they could run shutdowns and startups more quickly.
Overall design of the control system was subject to runaway states.

And then you had the post-accident clusterfarks of coverups, denials, etc.

Now, you could say the Chinese caused this because they'd been warned to shut down the wet markets.

And even if one of the wilder theories about where this came from turns out to be true (research on bat viruses, failure to contain in the lab, worker was infected and then subsequently spread it) it's still arguably not the same level of incompetence as what led to Chernobyl.

The coverups, denials, etc. are par for the course with authoritarian governments of any stripe, but especially true of the "infallible, inevitable" etc. mythos of Marxist communism.
 
2020-04-13 9:24:01 AM  
And this is why I don't trust their covid numbers at all.
 
2020-04-13 9:26:51 AM  

Erebus1954: "It wasn't me" doesn't work with farts either.


heh, "tightly".
 
2020-04-13 9:27:15 AM  

Psychohazard: And this is why I don't trust their covid numbers at all.


By the same token, I don't trust US numbers either. Or the UK.

Everyone is fudging their numbers or just not even bothering to count

Anyway, it might have started in China. But it's America that has made Covid-19 feel most at home
 
2020-04-13 9:29:14 AM  
They don't want to write out checks or forgive debt because of this.

The global GDP is roughly $80 trillion.  If they caused a 25% drop due to incompetence, that's a lot of money.
 
2020-04-13 9:29:54 AM  

jake_lex: They didn't create it, this is not something they've done intentionally, and they will be hurt by it as much as anyone else


Assumes facts not in evidence.

\it might not be murder, but negligent homicide is on the table
 
2020-04-13 9:30:23 AM  
Not really relevant to the content of the article but everywhere they mention it, CNN spells COVID-19 as Covid-19. Isn't COVID-19 an acronym (COronaVIrus Disease) and therefore be capitalized by the press?

Seems like CNN has it as "Covid-19" in all their articles.

I'm probably just being pedantic but shouldn't news organizations have the right nomenclature?
 
2020-04-13 9:31:19 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: As is the norm, China is doomed to suffer for the world.


Good. They deserve it. Dead ass serious.
 
2020-04-13 9:31:23 AM  

LL316: It must suck to live in a country who's government is incapable of handling criticism.

/It does.  It really does.


How would you know? You live in Georgia and post on a site where literally every thread has been a seething screed against the current administration for going on five years, and nary a soul has been threatened, let alone disappeared and had their organs redistributed.
 
2020-04-13 9:31:51 AM  
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2020-04-13 9:32:26 AM  

Dork Gently: seniorgato: Unless we find out it was released out of pure stupidity or hostility by a national government why bother?   Who cares?
Research the problem, treat the problem, have sex with it's mom.

The Brits seem to think it's plausible that the virus escaped from one of the Chinese government's biological research labs in Wuhan.


While everything in china is technically government run, it is actually a research university about 180 meters away from the wet market where this "began" that just happened to be researching the different strains of Caronavirus back in oct/Nov timeframe and even had a recruitment post right before this went down because they found a "new" strain and needed help researching it.

The primary researcher of said strain is now missing, their profile has been stripped from the universities site, and the CCP has put out statements on behalf of said researcher that she is "all well and fine, just took a job someplace else that I can't publically announce."  Paraphrasing there.
 
2020-04-13 9:32:46 AM  

Rapmaster2000: The Shaggy Defense.


Bangin' on the bathroom floor is how you get these kinds of diseases.

Also, fark China.  I hope that this is the push the rest of the world needs to get their stuff from someone else and for us to bring manufacturing back, though I doubt it.
 
2020-04-13 9:32:52 AM  

Gubbo: Psychohazard: And this is why I don't trust their covid numbers at all.

By the same token, I don't trust US numbers either. Or the UK.

Everyone is fudging their numbers or just not even bothering to count

Anyway, it might have started in China. But it's America that has made Covid-19 feel most at home


It's the American Dream, is it not?  An ambitious immigrant, persecuted and suppressed in their home country, finding the wide open spaces, wild university life, and vibrant cities of America to be the fertile soil for growth and success.  I mean, you know once they experienced both Mardi Gras AND Spring Break in Ft. Lauderdale, they were here to stay!
 
2020-04-13 9:33:01 AM  

Cndn Bacon: Not really relevant to the content of the article but everywhere they mention it, CNN spells COVID-19 as Covid-19. Isn't COVID-19 an acronym (COronaVIrus Disease) and therefore be capitalized by the press?

Seems like CNN has it as "Covid-19" in all their articles.

I'm probably just being pedantic but shouldn't news organizations have the right nomenclature?


CNN may have its own style guide for writing.
 
2020-04-13 9:35:38 AM  

Cndn Bacon: Not really relevant to the content of the article but everywhere they mention it, CNN spells COVID-19 as Covid-19. Isn't COVID-19 an acronym (COronaVIrus Disease) and therefore be capitalized by the press?


Different style guides handle acronyms differently from initialisms, and may handle within acronyms differently depending how the word is pronounced.
 
2020-04-13 9:36:57 AM  

seniorgato: Unless we find out it was released out of pure stupidity or hostility by a national government why bother?   Who cares?
Research the problem, treat the problem, have sex with it's mom.


Individuals and groups who have intentionally taken actions that made things worse should be held accountable for that. There is no doubt that China's attempts to hide information about the virus hurt people across the globe, just as there is no doubt that Boris Johnson's initial policy of "herd immunity" caused deaths and made things worse, just as Trump's consistent mishandling of the situation and repeated stupid decisions caused deaths and made thins worse, just as Andrés Manuel López Obrador's active push-back against doing anything in Mexico caused deaths and made things worse... and on and on with dozens of leaders actively making things worse by doing stupid shiat.
 
2020-04-13 9:37:12 AM  

This text is now purple: Cndn Bacon: Not really relevant to the content of the article but everywhere they mention it, CNN spells COVID-19 as Covid-19. Isn't COVID-19 an acronym (COronaVIrus Disease) and therefore be capitalized by the press?

Different style guides handle acronyms differently from initialisms, and may handle within acronyms differently depending how the word is pronounced.


I hate how NY Times handles acronyms. Yeah, sure Mr. Fancy Pants Newspaper. N.F.L.
 
2020-04-13 9:37:18 AM  
The Chinese are going to sweep this under the rug just like they did Tiananmen Square. Sure, people will know, but the way it will be dealt with will be the same: remotely mention it in any manner not positively reflecting on the government, and you'll disappear.
 
2020-04-13 9:39:12 AM  

Frank N Stein: Inb4 some farker cries that it's racist to suggest China has anything to do with COVID-19


No - but it sure as fark is racist trying to call it "The Chinese Virus" instead of using its actual, real name or the actual, real name of the disease.
 
2020-04-13 9:39:47 AM  

This text is now purple: Cndn Bacon: Not really relevant to the content of the article but everywhere they mention it, CNN spells COVID-19 as Covid-19. Isn't COVID-19 an acronym (COronaVIrus Disease) and therefore be capitalized by the press?

Different style guides handle acronyms differently from initialisms, and may handle within acronyms differently depending how the word is pronounced.


Well Covid-19 stands for Caronavirus disease.  Caronavirus is 1 word as it is.  So if it was initialize it would be CoviD-19 anyways.  That just looks silly.
 
2020-04-13 9:40:11 AM  

meanmutton: Frank N Stein: Inb4 some farker cries that it's racist to suggest China has anything to do with COVID-19

No - but it sure as fark is racist trying to call it "The Chinese Virus" instead of using its actual, real name or the actual, real name of the disease.


Since when is "Chinese" a race?
 
2020-04-13 9:41:35 AM  
Standard Car rules apply here:  You smelt it, you dealt it.
 
2020-04-13 9:42:17 AM  

dkulprit: This text is now purple: Cndn Bacon: Not really relevant to the content of the article but everywhere they mention it, CNN spells COVID-19 as Covid-19. Isn't COVID-19 an acronym (COronaVIrus Disease) and therefore be capitalized by the press?

Different style guides handle acronyms differently from initialisms, and may handle within acronyms differently depending how the word is pronounced.

Well Covid-19 stands for Caronavirus disease.  Caronavirus is 1 word as it is.  So if it was initialize it would be CoviD-19 anyways.  That just looks silly.


You mean CoViD-19, because the "vi" is from virus, but that looks too much like a 1990s computer tryhard name, so we use COVID-19.
 
2020-04-13 9:42:22 AM  
Not only did  China create the deadly virus, they exported it all over world.
Pay or get nuked.
 
2020-04-13 9:42:41 AM  

Yellow Beard: Next, the Chinese won't take responsibility for the pee pee in your coke.


Me Chinese, me play prank
Invent disease and economy tank
 
2020-04-13 9:45:34 AM  
Republicans seen taking notes.
 
2020-04-13 9:45:50 AM  

Bio-nic: jake_lex: I think that this is basically China's Chernobyl.  They didn't create it, this is not something they've done intentionally, and they will be hurt by it as much as anyone else  But their inability to admit fully what happened and allow for a real response has already made this much worse than it needed to be.

Basically, here's their response to COVID-19:

[media.giphy.com image 480x270] [View Full Size image _x_]


They created it by ignoring the health of their citizens.
They enabled it by continuing to say everything was fine while it rampaged through a major city.
They extended it by ignoring the worlds requests to see what was going on, and saying everything was ok, Then, when it became politically sensitive they blamed OTHER COUNTRIES FOR IT rather than taking responsibility for  it.
.


Are you talking about China or America?
 
2020-04-13 9:46:19 AM  
We'd have to be dicks to keep working with China like we were before the outbreak after the dust settles on this.

Abandon the trade talks.
 
2020-04-13 9:48:25 AM  

seniorgato: Unless we find out it was released out of pure stupidity or hostility by a national government why bother?   Who cares?
Research the problem, treat the problem, have sex with it's mom.


Bother.   Because shaping medical research to save political face gets actual people killed.
 
2020-04-13 9:48:57 AM  

Marine1: We'd have to be dicks to keep working with China like we were before the outbreak after the dust settles on this.

Abandon the trade talks.


Our big strategy for the last 25-30 years has been to trade with China so they will see how great freedom is and want to be free like us. Its not working. its time to strike that, reverse it.

Their weakness is food and they have no gas.
 
2020-04-13 9:49:12 AM  
lemme guess.
It's 2020
We have CRISPR CAS9 technology
you want us NOT to reverse engineer RNA when we can play Leggos with DNA?
 
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