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2020-04-12 8:59:07 AM  
He claimed he wants to leave, but never does because they're too busy arguing about who's gonna pay the bill and what kind of in home services he's going to get?
 
2020-04-12 9:34:35 AM  

moos: He claimed he wants to leave, but never does because they're too busy arguing about who's gonna pay the bill and what kind of in home services he's going to get?


"Bill"? It's an NHS hospital. What bill?
He signed into law the legislation giving the NHS that extra funding that was promised on the side of that bus, and he did that long before this virus became an issue, so think it's fair.
NHS funding has increased in the last ten years of Tory government, at a time when other areas had huge cuts. The army lost 20% of their soldiers, the RAF lost their Harriers and Tornados, the navy had their second carrier mothballed (a decision later reversed) and so on. The NHS was pretty much the only area of government spending that didn't have cuts.

And some Farkers seem to cling to this myth that Leavers, like Johnson, were the ones who were dragging their feet about leaving. They were trying to leave, but Remainers in Parliament were trying to stop them, putting up roadblocks, passing bills that forced him to request extensions etc. It was the EU who were trying to get us to stay, offering extensions etc. Even right now it is the EU saying that the transition period will have to be extended and the UK should ask for such an extension.
 
2020-04-12 11:02:22 AM  
Good news for him. Not sure about England though.
 
2020-04-12 11:06:24 AM  
Good.  I think he's an asshole but I don't like people dying from this thing.
 
2020-04-12 11:34:03 AM  
Let's hope he learned something from his experience.

Though I doubt it
 
2020-04-12 12:01:18 PM  
>He is isolating because he has COVID-19 symptoms.
>He has mild symptoms, just a bit of a temperature
>He's gone in for routine testing for mild symptoms
>He's in ICU but it's strictly precautionary and doctors are not concerned
>He's stable and in good spirits
>He's recovering and in very good spirits
>He's doing very well and can now sit up in bed
>He's improving and can now talk to nurses and doctors
>He's out of the ICU but not out of the woods yet
>He's out of hospital but he almost died

I get why governments don't want to say "the head of government could die at any minute" but man it's been a trip to see the optimism of the official language have a very clear inverse relationship with the seriousness of the situation.
 
2020-04-12 12:01:29 PM  
"Mr Johnson said two nurses - Jenny from New Zealand and Luis from Portugal - stood by his bedside for 48 hours at the most critical time. He also named several other hospital workers who cared for him this past week who he wanted to thank."

I'm sure the poors are getting the same level of urgency in that hospital.
 
2020-04-12 12:04:04 PM  

Gubbo: Let's hope he learned something from his experience.

Though I doubt it


"I am invincible, and if I ever come close to experiencing a consequence similar to those my decision-making inflicts on others, our institutions will move heaven and earth to ensure that I, personally, am fine."

(Though I'm sure any Etonian learns that lesson five or six times over before graduation)
 
2020-04-12 12:13:14 PM  

LovesToSpooge: "Mr Johnson said two nurses - Jenny from New Zealand and Luis from Portugal - stood by his bedside for 48 hours at the most critical time. He also named several other hospital workers who cared for him this past week who he wanted to thank."

I'm sure the poors are getting the same level of urgency in that hospital.


This Luis person will have to leave the country soon I'm sure.
 
2020-04-12 12:35:17 PM  
He wasn't ready to get on the cart.  And his video seemed like an admission that he's going to throw all the money at the NHS.
 
2020-04-12 12:35:36 PM  

mrshowrules: Good.  I think he's an asshole but I don't like people dying from this thing.


That's definitely right. It should be from something funny like a piano falling on him from a few stories up.
 
2020-04-12 12:36:18 PM  
That's unfortunate.
 
2020-04-12 12:38:35 PM  

LovesToSpooge: "Mr Johnson said two nurses - Jenny from New Zealand and Luis from Portugal - stood by his bedside for 48 hours at the most critical time. He also named several other hospital workers who cared for him this past week who he wanted to thank."

I'm sure the poors are getting the same level of urgency in that hospital.


The fun part is knowing that they did that despite the fact that, had the situations been reversed, he'd have written them off as unavoidable statistics in his plan to combat COVID-19 by simply allowing "herd immunity to develop & handwaving away the dead.
 
2020-04-12 12:39:30 PM  
No expense was spared to save the worthless life of a mindless beast of hate.

Good job I guess.
 
2020-04-12 12:42:50 PM  
Phooey.
 
2020-04-12 12:45:32 PM  
I can deal with the quarantines and other bullshiat, i can even get over this asshat making it too, but really annoyed that Covid spared Rand Paul. The guy has a bad lung. Should had been an easy get for Covid.

Fark global pandemic. Clearly, I've made the right choice to campaign for super volcano.
 
2020-04-12 12:50:07 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: And some Farkers seem to cling to this myth that Leavers, like Johnson, were the ones who were dragging their feet about leaving. They were trying to leave, but Remainers in Parliament were trying to stop them, putting up roadblocks, passing bills that forced him to request extensions etc. It was the EU who were trying to get us to stay, offering extensions etc. Even right now it is the EU saying that the transition period will have to be extended and the UK should ask for such an extension.


I love how you conveniently forget to mention all the leavers, including Boris Johnson, who voted against May's deal multiple times. But sure, you claim it was a myth. Your attempts at gaslighting get more feeble as time goes on.
 
2020-04-12 12:51:44 PM  
He's going to be PM until 2030.
 
2020-04-12 12:52:50 PM  
so we getting same old bojo or bojo the white after this ? i listen to the speach , he sounded much more human then before the whole ordeal.
 
2020-04-12 12:54:11 PM  

EvilElecBlanket: He's going to be PM until 2030.


Hopefully that ends up not being a bad thing. From what I've seen, he does seem to actually be capable of learning and changing his mind about things, unlike certain other bad-haired world leaders. Maybe this experience will change him for the better.
 
2020-04-12 12:56:21 PM  
Don't forget, this asshole was walking around shaking hands and infecting people right before he fell ill.
You are infectious before you get the symptoms.
 
2020-04-12 12:56:38 PM  

hissatsu: mrshowrules: Good.  I think he's an asshole but I don't like people dying from this thing.

That's definitely right. It should be from something funny like a piano falling on him from a few stories up.


That might take "Dickhead Kill of the Week".
 
2020-04-12 1:24:50 PM  
I see that the Tories have a newfound love of the NHS and immigrant nurses.  Let's see how long that lasts.  If their past actions are any guide they'll sing its praises while systematically dismantling it.
 
2020-04-12 1:42:32 PM  

EvilElecBlanket: He's going to be PM until 2030.


I'd let him stay on until a quarter to ten.
 
2020-04-12 2:03:03 PM  

LovesToSpooge: "Mr Johnson said two nurses - Jenny from New Zealand and Luis from Portugal - stood by his bedside for 48 hours at the most critical time. He also named several other hospital workers who cared for him this past week who he wanted to thank."

I'm sure the poors are getting the same level of urgency in that hospital.


This is the problem with the rich getting the virus.

They will soak up resources of hundreds.

Jenny and Luis could have been helping hundreds in 48 hours instead of sitting by his bedside, twiddling their thumbs.
 
2020-04-12 2:09:59 PM  
TANJ.
 
2020-04-12 2:12:17 PM  

edmo: Good news for him. Not sure about England though.


Right? This is almost as tragic as seeing Donald Trump survive this.
 
2020-04-12 2:25:38 PM  
Is this that same Boris feller who just recently voted against health care workers wage increases, the one who thought the C-19 disease was exaggerated, the same one who thought they should just let it run through the country and... oh well for those who died? Is this the one who almost died from his own stupidity?
That Boris feller?

WTF is it with leaders these days?
Netanyahu, trump, Putin, Johnson, that head Turkey guy, etc?
Are we really electing these jackasses, or are they just stealing power?
 
2020-04-12 3:03:24 PM  

LovesToSpooge: "Mr Johnson said two nurses - Jenny from New Zealand and Luis from Portugal - stood by his bedside for 48 hours at the most critical time. He also named several other hospital workers who cared for him this past week who he wanted to thank."

I'm sure the poors are getting the same level of urgency in that hospital.


I am shocked he allowed non Brits by his bedside.
 
2020-04-12 3:07:38 PM  
So, Boris, did you learn your lesson? Do you still want to turn over national healthcare to the US?

Having second thoughts about letting everybody get sick to build up herd immunity?

Did you learn to be less of a douche?
 
2020-04-12 3:21:08 PM  

FormlessOne: The fun part is knowing that they did that despite the fact that, had the situations been reversed, he'd have written them off as unavoidable statistics in his plan to combat COVID-19 by simply allowing "herd immunity to develop & handwaving away the dead.


Government scientific advisers were the ones talking about herd immunity. Well over a month ago Boris was already saying that slowing and containing the spread was the better idea.
Boris Johnson on Priti Patel, Coronavirus and Changing Nappies | This Morning
Youtube vOHiaPwtGl4

He says "some argue" when responding to the question but then goes on to say "but it will be better to contain it"

So he was arguing against the herd immunity idea long before he personally caught it.

Thor's Mighty Wrench: I love how you conveniently forget to mention all the leavers, including Boris Johnson, who voted against May's deal multiple times. But sure, you claim it was a myth. Your attempts at gaslighting get more feeble as time goes on.


Because the Chequers Deal included the backstop, a clause that would have kept the UK under EU rules for years, decades even, with no legal power to leave unilaterally. We could only ever leave if and when the EU chose to accept a deal that it liked regarding the Irish border. It was "Brexit in name only". It would have kept the entire UK, not just NI, in the Customs Union indefinitely.

Once Boris came to power and negotiated a deal that was almost identical but without the backstop he and Parliament passed it happily.

If they were actually so against leaving then why did the happily vote for it once the backstop was removed?

EvilElecBlanket: He's going to be PM until 2030.


Labour have just elected a far more serious and capable leader. If he can get rid of the Corbyn wing and avoid the huge internal squabbles that could happen he could be a serious contender for the election in four and a half years.

i ignore u: I see that the Tories have a newfound love of the NHS and immigrant nurses.  Let's see how long that lasts.  If their past actions are any guide they'll sing its praises while systematically dismantling it.


Cite? NHS funding has increased over the last decade of Tory rule, while other areas like the military have had huge cuts. The army lost 20% of its soldiers. The navy lost a carrier. (They did get it back later). The last Labour government signed lots of contracts with private companies to build, own and run hospitals, giving the NHS a hundred billion pounds of debt to pay. Labour even signed a contract with a private healthcare company to treat NHS patients.

The NHS has existed for 71 years. 45 of those have been under the Conservatives. If they're trying to kill it they're taking their sweet time.

As for "immigrant nurses" again long before the Coronavirus crisis his government announced new immigration rules that make it easier for medical workers from places like India, Pakistan etc to immigrate to the UK, and fast track the process. Where were they "anti" immigrant nurses before?

mr0x: This is the problem with the rich getting the virus.

They will soak up resources of hundreds.

Jenny and Luis could have been helping hundreds in 48 hours instead of sitting by his bedside, twiddling their thumbs.


That is actually a key part of the NHS's success. The fact that everyone, from unemployed dustman to the actual Prime Minister goes to a NHS hospital. Everyone uses it so everyone supports it.
In places like the US many social programs are seen as only helping "those people" by the people in charge and their supporters, so they are easy politically to cut. Trump threatens to cut food stamps? His supporters sheer. A British politician who threatens to cut the NHS? They'll be booed from the stage.

The service being used by everyone, working class, middle class, even upper class, is why it is so loved and so widely supported. Boris being treated by the NHS is a good thing.

Percise1: Is this that same Boris feller who just recently voted against health care workers wage increases, the one who thought the C-19 disease was exaggerated, the same one who thought they should just let it run through the country and... oh well for those who died? Is this the one who almost died from his own stupidity?
That Boris feller?


See my comments above. Every thing you just wrote is wrong.

Nurses are to receive a pay rise of between 6.5-22% over three years after NHS employers and the unions agreed new pay deal.
 
2020-04-12 3:32:18 PM  
Now maybe we can find out if Boris Johnson was Trump's fat friend in a coma.  If not, how is Trump's fat friend in a coma getting on?  How can we relax when we don't know how Trump's fat friend in a coma is doing?
 
2020-04-12 3:36:08 PM  

demonfaerie: I am shocked he allowed non Brits by his bedside.


You do know his ex wife is half Indian, right?

Astorix: So, Boris, did you learn your lesson? Do you still want to turn over national healthcare to the US?


When has he ever said he wanted to do that? In fact the "US trade deal will destroy the NHS!" scare story started back in 2014 and before because it was the EU who were negotiating a trade deal with the US and putting healthcare on the table.

It was the EU that were putting the NHS on the table in a trade deal with the US, not Boris.
 
2020-04-12 3:46:57 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Thor's Mighty Wrench: I love how you conveniently forget to mention all the leavers, including Boris Johnson, who voted against May's deal multiple times. But sure, you claim it was a myth. Your attempts at gaslighting get more feeble as time goes on.

Because the Chequers Deal included the backstop, a clause that would have kept the UK under EU rules for years, decades even, with no legal power to leave unilaterally. We could only ever leave if and when the EU chose to accept a deal that it liked regarding the Irish border. It was "Brexit in name only". It would have kept the entire UK, not just NI, in the Customs Union indefinitely.

Once Boris came to power and negotiated a deal that was almost identical but without the backstop he and Parliament passed it happily.

If they were actually so against leaving then why did the happily vote for it once the backstop was removed?


Curious how you've forgotten to mention Boris also voted for May's deal with the backstop included.
 
2020-04-12 3:56:36 PM  

hissatsu: mrshowrules: Good.  I think he's an asshole but I don't like people dying from this thing.

That's definitely right. It should be from something funny like a piano falling on him from a few stories up.


I'm hoping that a hedgehog will mistake him for Dinsdale
 
2020-04-12 4:54:44 PM  

bluewave69: so we getting same old bojo or bojo the white after this ? i listen to the speach , he sounded much more human then before the whole ordeal.


They pumped him full of blood with antibodies in it. That's why he recovered. I'm certain. He's a fat old smoker. He should be dead.
 
2020-04-12 6:06:43 PM  

Thor's Mighty Wrench: Carter Pewterschmidt: Thor's Mighty Wrench: I love how you conveniently forget to mention all the leavers, including Boris Johnson, who voted against May's deal multiple times. But sure, you claim it was a myth. Your attempts at gaslighting get more feeble as time goes on.

Because the Chequers Deal included the backstop, a clause that would have kept the UK under EU rules for years, decades even, with no legal power to leave unilaterally. We could only ever leave if and when the EU chose to accept a deal that it liked regarding the Irish border. It was "Brexit in name only". It would have kept the entire UK, not just NI, in the Customs Union indefinitely.

Once Boris came to power and negotiated a deal that was almost identical but without the backstop he and Parliament passed it happily.

If they were actually so against leaving then why did the happily vote for it once the backstop was removed?

Curious how you've forgotten to mention Boris also voted for May's deal with the backstop included.


At the third time IIRC, and very reluctantly when the then likely alternative was no Brexit at all, and it was very apparent that the bill would not pass anyway. Boris voted for the deal saying he was doing so very reluctantly but there was no better option. May had said that she would resign if the bill passed, and Boris would have been a very strong contender to replace her. It would be better for him to become leader being able to say "I compromised to try to get this deal through but now I'm leader I think I can get a better deal". If the deal failed (as it did) then he can still show he was willing to compromise and yet oppose the deal from the backbenches.

It is not a difficult concept to understand. If you love Indian food but the only two options available right now are pizza and Chinese you might choose Chinese. You claiming "Ha! You said you loved Indian!" is stupid when that wasn't a choice on the table at that exact moment. You make the best choice from what is possible.

At that point in time the two likely outcomes were "May's terrible deal but with her resigning" and "Brexit being called off entirely" so Boris held his nose and voted for May's deal.

Thankfully he became leader and managed to do what pretty much everyone on Fark had insisted was impossible, get the EU to reopen the deal and agree a new deal without the backstop, without the entire UK staying in the Customs Union, getting the right to unilaterally leave at any time in the future etc.

You're just pissed he succeeded where the majority of Farkers were adamant he'd fail.
 
2020-04-12 7:35:30 PM  
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2020-04-12 8:37:08 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: demonfaerie: I am shocked he allowed non Brits by his bedside.

You do know his ex wife is half Indian, right?

Astorix: So, Boris, did you learn your lesson? Do you still want to turn over national healthcare to the US?

When has he ever said he wanted to do that? In fact the "US trade deal will destroy the NHS!" scare story started back in 2014 and before because it was the EU who were negotiating a trade deal with the US and putting healthcare on the table.

It was the EU that were putting the NHS on the table in a trade deal with the US, not Boris.


He ran a platform to get voters to say yes to Brexit by anti immigration
 
2020-04-12 9:09:00 PM  
Does Boris normally look like shiat? Is this his regular, everyday appearance (ignoring the hair), or is this worse than usual?

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2020-04-12 11:19:14 PM  
So then, how was you experience with "taking it on the chin?"
 
2020-04-13 2:17:48 PM  

demonfaerie: Carter Pewterschmidt: demonfaerie: I am shocked he allowed non Brits by his bedside.

You do know his ex wife is half Indian, right?

Astorix: So, Boris, did you learn your lesson? Do you still want to turn over national healthcare to the US?

When has he ever said he wanted to do that? In fact the "US trade deal will destroy the NHS!" scare story started back in 2014 and before because it was the EU who were negotiating a trade deal with the US and putting healthcare on the table.

It was the EU that were putting the NHS on the table in a trade deal with the US, not Boris.

He ran a platform to get voters to say yes to Brexit by anti immigration


No, he didn't. Even during the campaign he was saying the UK needed and welcomed immigrants. What he and Leavers wanted was immigration control, the exact same controls that Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc all have.
His new immigration policy, announced long before Coronavirus, actually makes it easier to immigrate from places like India, Pakistan, Australia etc, and has fast tracking for medical workers for the NHS.
Boris's wife was half Indian. Two of the most senior government positions are now held by first generation immigrants.
 
2020-04-13 2:18:53 PM  

Blaarrg: So then, how was you experience with "taking it on the chin?"


You mean the theory he argued against long before he caught it? See video I posted above.
 
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