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(Vox)   Somewhere between 12 million and 35 Americans have already lost their health insurance along with their job. Thank goodness there isn't some sudden surge in health emergencies to force them into bankruptcy and homelessness too   (vox.com) divider line
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2020-04-10 12:32:32 PM  

Sophont: Serious Black: nanim: Serious Black: Ms. Black recently turned 26. Her parents' health insurance company offered her COBRA coverage. It's about $550 a month just for herself.
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not to threadjack, but a married 26 yr old was offered to be added to her parent's insurance? - am I reading that right?

We are not married. We could get married if the courts were open, and then I could add her to my insurance plan.

You'll be appalled at how much that will cost.
My wife has better insurance than I do. Much better. To add me to her plan, it would eat 2/3 of her paycheck.
To add Sophont Jr, she'd have to pay them every two weeks for the privilege of working there.


It might be better from a cost-sharing perspective in that we would have a lower deductible and out-of-pocket maximum if we're on the same plan, plus we wouldn't have to manage two different companies to cover our health care. It will almost certainly be better from a premium perspective to get her her own plan from the exchanges, especially since she's legally single at the moment, she's young, and her pay qualifies her for a sizeable subsidy.
 
2020-04-10 12:36:11 PM  
I have it on very good authority that several years ago we "fixed" health care in this country by forcing everyone to become customers of those who farked it up in the first place, so this is all obviously nonsense . . .
 
2020-04-10 12:44:55 PM  

EmmaLou: If you live in a state with expanded Medicaid, you might get good coverage for a very affordable monthly payment. I'd check there before looking at the exchange.


You can actually do both at the same time. At least here in Oregon, when you go online to enroll in an exchange plan, you can also check a box to see if you qualify for medicaid.
 
2020-04-10 1:12:38 PM  

leeksfromchichis: TelemonianAjax:

Nero had a nice recipe for tar shirts that turned undesirables into torches.

Burn the system down WITH the insurance executives as the match.


I like the way you think, sir.
 
2020-04-10 2:10:52 PM  

feckingmorons: There should be a federal law allowing them to continue the health insurance themselves.


Everybody thinks this a joke by Fecks, but I think he's serious.

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Laid-off employees who had employer-provided health care are certainly covered by COBRA, if they can afford to pay 4-5x their previous premiums. So, in other words, they can't.
 
2020-04-10 3:08:13 PM  

ElizaDoolittle: feckingmorons: There should be a federal law allowing them to continue the health insurance themselves.

Everybody thinks this a joke by Fecks, but I think he's serious.

[Fark user image 850x212]Laid-off employees who had employer-provided health care are certainly covered by COBRA, if they can afford to pay 4-5x their previous premiums. So, in other words, they can't.


That's potentially part of the problem with health care in the US.  People who have the majority of their health insurance costs covered by their employer are more likely to have an obfuscated understanding of insurance costs.  Since those same people often tend to be more affluent and have a greater proportional influence on politics, the people outside that group end up getting screwed over.

I bet that if the tax structure was changed to disincentive employer subsidized insurance to where most people had to pay the full burden directly out of pocket, the outrage would be immense.
 
2020-04-10 4:23:52 PM  
All those foils who answered the polss that asked "Are you satisfied with your health insurance, and don't want single payer, Medicare for All"... so, how you feelin' 'bout that now?

Put the medical insurers out of business.
 
2020-04-10 6:28:03 PM  
So Aquatatanka's comment was deleted? And therefore my reply was deleted too?  I thought my reply to it was rather good. Is it that Fark doesn't want us to know how the Canadian system isn't a fantasy land, and it is real?

Aquatatanka's comment didn't look like it was breaking any rules.
 
2020-04-10 6:35:30 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: So Aquatatanka's comment was deleted? And therefore my reply was deleted too?  I thought my reply to it was rather good. Is it that Fark doesn't want us to know how the Canadian system isn't a fantasy land, and it is real?

Aquatatanka's comment didn't look like it was breaking any rules.


It cancelled a cool burn of mine, too, but I consider it a worthy Work of Mercy for Aqua's sake, Amen.
 
2020-04-10 7:17:32 PM  

Mithraic_bullshiat: Bennie Crabtree: So Aquatatanka's comment was deleted? And therefore my reply was deleted too?  I thought my reply to it was rather good. Is it that Fark doesn't want us to know how the Canadian system isn't a fantasy land, and it is real?

Aquatatanka's comment didn't look like it was breaking any rules.

It cancelled a cool burn of mine, too, but I consider it a worthy Work of Mercy for Aqua's sake, Amen.


So it wasn't just me.
 
2020-04-10 8:22:46 PM  

Dinjiin: ElizaDoolittle:
That's potentially part of the problem with health care in the US.  People who have the majority of their health insurance costs covered by their employer are more likely to have an obfuscated understanding of insurance costs.  Since those same people often tend to be more affluent and have a greater proportional influence on politics, the people outside that group end up getting screwed over.

I bet that if the tax structure was changed to disincentive employer subsidized insurance to where most people had to pay the full burden directly out of pocket, the outrage would be immense.


I know. I have been trying to understand why so many Americans are afraid of UHC. A great many of them grumble about their increasing deductibles and premiums, but most of them have no idea what it would cost them as unemployed individuals, or individuals who don't get amazing health insurance from their employers.

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I am astonished about how naive I was when I decided to quit at 40.  I genuinely thought individual health insurance cost about $250/mo, had no deductibles - maybe a $20 co-pay. It wasn't a question I had really pondered. I'd always had gold-level health insurance from my previous employers, and I was accustomed to thinking, well, maybe $300/mo if I'm not employed by a big company.

Boy was I wrong. It was the biggest retirement planning mistake I ever made. Yes, that includes 2008 and the last few weeks on the stock market. I simply hadn't a clue how much my employer paid towards my premiums.

Of course, it's not just C-suite execs who get these untaxed benefits. Major unions get them too. That's probably why we will never get universal health care in this country. Half the country is covered and does not care if the other half is not.
 
2020-04-10 9:20:19 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Marcus Aurelius: Forcing your employees to get their health care through your company is a great way to enslave people.

I heard an interview with Mark Cuban, who of course is against socialized healthcare. He was going in about how even if his employees didn't like working for him, they stayed for the health insurance he offers. What a piece of shiat.


Was that on the Worst Year Ever podcast? Cuban talks a smooth game but I had several WTF moments listening to that (and coming from a non-American perspective).
 
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