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2020-04-09 8:36:36 PM  
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2020-04-09 8:44:08 PM  
I live in Salt Lake and I don't even know what this is about or what purpose they hope to accomplish. People are driving all over the place within the state. Utahns are driving out of state and returning. Having a few out of staters milling about isn't likely to add to the issue so long as the basic guidelines already in place are followed.

I guess what I'm saying is either close the border or don't. I say close it. That would be entertaining.
 
2020-04-09 8:54:38 PM  
'Murica.
 
2020-04-09 8:58:50 PM  
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2020-04-09 8:59:12 PM  
Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.
 
2020-04-09 9:03:25 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.


Arriving how? Are all the ports, roads, bridges, etc closed?
 
2020-04-09 9:09:53 PM  
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It's not fascism when we do it
 
2020-04-09 9:14:35 PM  

propasaurus: Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.

Arriving how? Are all the ports, roads, bridges, etc closed?


"Small town" in Alaska may very well be one road in and one road out or something similar that's easy to monitor, and a stranger wandering around would draw the attention of all 18 people, 20 huskies and the local moose.
 
2020-04-09 9:15:31 PM  

propasaurus: Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.

Arriving how? Are all the ports, roads, bridges, etc closed?


Airstrip and ferry, they have "officials" posted to require a form, then other volunters/police escort people to their place of quarantine.  The one road in comes from Canada and there are people posted here too just in case something comes that is "essential".

I'm not sure of the exact implementation, because I'm at home.  But I do know several people have been cited by the cops so far for walking their dog too far from home or being where the assholes thought they didn't need to be.
 
2020-04-09 9:16:40 PM  
Then the damned moose shoulda told 'em.
 
2020-04-09 9:17:13 PM  

cretinbob: [clydefitchreport.com image 850x566]
It's not fascism when we do it


Comments person who imagines he understands the Constitution.
 
2020-04-09 9:19:39 PM  

powhound: propasaurus: Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.

Arriving how? Are all the ports, roads, bridges, etc closed?

"Small town" in Alaska may very well be one road in and one road out or something similar that's easy to monitor, and a stranger wandering around would draw the attention of all 18 people, 20 huskies and the local moose.


Exactly.  Huge police presence for the size of the town, they don't have enough to do, and they notice.  The huskies lose their shiat at the slightest provocation anyway.  There was a moose down on Main St. this morning (seriously), and he - characteristically - didn't give a shiat.
 
2020-04-09 9:23:11 PM  
Let's see if the crackpot Branch Dildonians go bat poopy about this when it's their own (fellow Mormons) telling
them to do it..They were already having a bit of a shat fit over quarantine orders..And some of their
fellow nutbags in Idaho are as well..Most people are fine with things, for the greater good, but this a-holes
just can't have anything that they don't get a cut of..National land is bad, government anything is bad,
rules of any kind they don't like and can't use to beat other people over the head with, etc..
 
2020-04-09 9:36:20 PM  
I drove through the middle of Utah once.   If I came in on US highway 50 towards Green River, exactly who would I disclose my travel plans to?  Coyotes?
 
2020-04-09 9:42:56 PM  

Xcott: I drove through the middle of Utah once.   If I came in on US highway 50 towards Green River, exactly who would I disclose my travel plans to?  Coyotes?


Coyotes usually drop off their cargo in Texas or California

Someone else picks them up at that point
 
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2020-04-09 9:43:54 PM  
Xcott

In the desert it doesn't take many police officers to monitor every road in and out. They don't need a town at the border. They only need a car, a gun, some gloves, and a shovel.
 
2020-04-09 9:56:44 PM  
Uh, left them in my other magic underwear
 
2020-04-10 3:06:47 AM  
Great, where am I going to get my frysauce fix now?
 
2020-04-10 3:09:33 AM  

powhound: I live in Salt Lake and I don't even know what this is about or what purpose they hope to accomplish. People are driving all over the place within the state. Utahns are driving out of state and returning. Having a few out of staters milling about isn't likely to add to the issue so long as the basic guidelines already in place are followed.

I guess what I'm saying is either close the border or don't. I say close it. That would be entertaining.


But how would you guys get your shipments of mayonnaise?
 
2020-04-10 3:10:18 AM  
The Morons have so many missionaries moving around, they need to implement individual quarantine.
 
2020-04-10 3:12:57 AM  

powhound: I live in Salt Lake and I don't even know what this is about or what purpose they hope to accomplish. People are driving all over the place within the state. Utahns are driving out of state and returning. Having a few out of staters milling about isn't likely to add to the issue so long as the basic guidelines already in place are followed.

I guess what I'm saying is either close the border or don't. I say close it. That would be entertaining.


Technically, it can't been done. At least I think. First freedom of movement is pretty ingrained. Second, the damned interstate commerce clause which the federal government regularly abuses. I fully expect many constitutional challenges as some point, and I'm a little surprised that haven't already started. Except, the courts are kind of shut down too.
 
2020-04-10 3:13:15 AM  

Majin_Buu: Great, where am I going to get my frysauce fix now?


Mayo and ketchup.
 
2020-04-10 3:15:52 AM  

puffy999: Majin_Buu: Great, where am I going to get my frysauce fix now?

Mayo and ketchup.


But... Green jello?
 
2020-04-10 3:20:53 AM  
Just print this out.  It's the ONLY reason to visit Utah:

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Difficulty:  I live in Colorado, why the hell would I go to Utah to ski?
 
2020-04-10 3:22:27 AM  
I think this is a good thing. It is setting precedent that states have the right to restrict or refuse entry and travel by residents of other states. This will be useful as some states create policies for single payer health care, state-funded third-level education, and similar progressive initiatives, and people from crappy states try to drive to the next state to take advantage.
 
2020-04-10 3:24:26 AM  
Ketchup and mayo.  Enough said.

Imagine a society that says "yep, we invented this.  If the heathens act right, we will share the recipe".

Then imagine how we laugh.  Oh how we laugh.

Of course, their women are treated as objects that men can possess multiple of, but that too is hilarious.

But anyway, fry sauce!  Ha ha!
 
2020-04-10 3:31:29 AM  

valenumr: I fully expect many constitutional challenges as some point, and I'm a little surprised that haven't already started.


There's always exceptions for purposes of emergencies, be it insurrection, war with a foreign power, or, indeed, pandemics. When the chips are down, the Constitution is really little more than a piece of paper. It's up for people to adhere to it. See: Alien and Sedition Acts, suspension of Habeas Corpus during the Civil War, Japanese internment.
 
2020-04-10 3:35:06 AM  
I would have like to seen Montana.
 
2020-04-10 3:38:33 AM  

shaggai: I would have like to seen Montana.


Play around on Google Street View.
 
2020-04-10 3:40:43 AM  
Mormon secret handshakes don't fail me now!
 
2020-04-10 3:43:14 AM  

LegacyDL: Mormon secret handshakes don't fail me now!


Swordfighting
 
2020-04-10 3:44:54 AM  
"What's the reason for your visit?"

I'm picking up a six-pack of wives.
 
2020-04-10 3:48:20 AM  
Is there that much discretionary travel happening out there? Why are people not just staying the fark at home unless absolutely necessary?
 
2020-04-10 3:48:46 AM  

King Something: 'Murica.


cretinbob: [clydefitchreport.com image 850x566]
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2020-04-10 3:57:55 AM  

shaggai: I would have like to seen Montana.


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2020-04-10 3:59:12 AM  

EmmaLou: Is there that much discretionary travel happening out there? Why are people not just staying the fark at home unless absolutely necessary?


People are dumb and don't like being told what to do. Not exactly a mystery.

Left the house two days ago for groceries for only the second time since all this started. The roads around Portland were just as slammed as normal. People still congregating in huge groups. Joggers everywhere. Around here it looks exactly like it always has, as if nothing is going on in the world. The only difference I noticed was some people wearing masks and gloves and tape on the floor of the store suggesting distances that everyone ignored. But otherwise business as usual.

I'm convinced after that experience that social distancing isn't actually a thing that's happening. Just those of us taking it seriously and doing it happen to be online talking about it with each other giving us the illusion that most everyone is joining us in isolation. When really 90% of people aren't doing a damn thing.
 
2020-04-10 4:04:13 AM  

Shaggy_C: valenumr: I fully expect many constitutional challenges as some point, and I'm a little surprised that haven't already started.

There's always exceptions for purposes of emergencies, be it insurrection, war with a foreign power, or, indeed, pandemics. When the chips are down, the Constitution is really little more than a piece of paper. It's up for people to adhere to it. See: Alien and Sedition Acts, suspension of Habeas Corpus during the Civil War, Japanese internment.


All very excellent points, but I thought some sort of executive privilege had to be involved. But again, I could certainly have misconceptions.
 
2020-04-10 4:09:10 AM  
2030: 9 years after the rest of the world as beaten covid19 , the plaguelands(formely united-states) are still fighting the infection because they cant farken be bothered to obey rules for like 2 months in a farken row.
 
2020-04-10 4:13:35 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.


I've never heard it being controlled at town level. Interesting.

/how are you feeling, by the way? Still self-isolating?
 
2020-04-10 4:16:20 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: propasaurus: Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.

Arriving how? Are all the ports, roads, bridges, etc closed?

Airstrip and ferry, they have "officials" posted to require a form, then other volunters/police escort people to their place of quarantine.  The one road in comes from Canada and there are people posted here too just in case something comes that is "essential".

I'm not sure of the exact implementation, because I'm at home.  But I do know several people have been cited by the cops so far for walking their dog too far from home or being where the assholes thought they didn't need to be.


You have a road coming into town? You must live in the South East. Most the small towns/villages I've been to are only air and sea access. Some don't even have roads in town. I'm a big city girl. I live in the thriving metropolis of Fairbanks (population 31,000).

I wasn't aware that we had the quarantine for  people coming in. Makes sense though as we have one of the lower rates of infection.
 
2020-04-10 4:20:18 AM  
Dont get upset.  Switch it off!  Like a light switch.
 
2020-04-10 4:20:27 AM  

My Sober Alt: Just print this out.  It's the ONLY reason to visit Utah:

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Difficulty:  I live in Colorado, why the hell would I go to Utah to ski?


+ Moab

/ mountain biker
 
2020-04-10 4:21:20 AM  
And this is where we tell Governor Asshole to fark all the way off.

Produce a "permission slip" to enter the state? Yeah, go to hell, you dictatorial jackass.
 
2020-04-10 4:22:18 AM  

EmmaLou: Is there that much discretionary travel happening out there? Why are people not just staying the fark at home unless absolutely necessary?


No, fascists can't resist the opportunity to fascist.
 
2020-04-10 4:24:23 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Alaska, everyone entering the State is required to quarantine for 14 days.  You have to fill in a form saying where you will be quarantined.  They check.

In my tiny town, everyone arriving from outside town is also required to quarantine for 14 more days.


So if I making a quick beer run to your town to grab a 6er I have to hang around for 14 days?
 
2020-04-10 4:27:46 AM  
My buddy lives in a very small beach town in southern Mexico.  He says the single road connection to the rest of Mexico has been roadblocked for weeks.

Vehicles may leave the town, but the only ones allowed in are food delivery trucks that were already known before the outbreak.  The driver does not get out.

The only thing near that town is tens of kilometers of untouched jungle.  No major hospital, a "main street" about two blocks long.

If the virus gets in, they would just die.
 
2020-04-10 4:27:56 AM  

bluewave69: 2030: 9 years after the rest of the world as beaten covid19 , the plaguelands(formely united-states) are still fighting the infection because they cant farken be bothered to obey rules for like 2 months in a farken row.


This

Stay the fark home

These measures are being taken to discourage travel

Papers please? Get real.
 
2020-04-10 4:41:20 AM  

kb7rky: And this is where we tell Governor Asshole to fark all the way off.

Produce a "permission slip" to enter the state? Yeah, go to hell, you dictatorial jackass.


If enough states lose patience with the federal government and start rolling their own quarantines, the USA will start breaking into medieval fiefdoms.
 
2020-04-10 4:57:48 AM  

puffy999: Majin_Buu: Great, where am I going to get my frysauce fix now?

Mayo and ketchup.


I just learned the hard way do not GIS "mayochup meme".
 
2020-04-10 5:00:47 AM  
I hope this doesn't become a thing. I live in one state and work in the neighboring one. If I have a self quarantine for fourteen days, five times a week, it'll be difficult to get much done.
 
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