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2020-04-09 10:54:39 AM  
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get used to the new normal. as the planet warms expect more pandemics.
 
2020-04-09 11:05:06 AM  
Dang, that spread faster than a Chipotle fart in a church!
 
2020-04-09 11:30:20 AM  
I guess that grocery store has no air conditioner or fans.
 
2020-04-09 11:32:16 AM  
Yeah, wear a farking mask if you go to a store. So if you cough or sneeze it is contained.
 
2020-04-09 11:32:33 AM  

js34603: I guess that grocery store has no air conditioner or fans.


You're right. That would move it around an even wider area.
 
2020-04-09 11:34:00 AM  
All the Karens in my neighborhood are holding this up in the air and insisting we all wear face masks while walking, running, and bicycling outside. It's hard to imagine how low the risk of contracting a virus from someone who flies by on a bicycle is. I suppose it's more than zero, but Jesus, there's a limit to what's a reasonable precaution, and if you can still breathe with a mask on while running or bicycling, you're not exercising very vigorously.
 
2020-04-09 11:34:20 AM  

KungFuJunkie: Yeah, wear a farking mask if you go to a store. So if you cough or sneeze it is contained.


Or just cover your farking mouth if you must cough and sneeze in a store.
 
2020-04-09 11:36:27 AM  

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get used to the new normal. as the planet warms expect more pandemics.


I tired to explain that to some coworkers who think that this whole thing will "burn off" once it gets warm out.

I look at them and think to myself.

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2020-04-09 11:40:55 AM  
how about farting?
 
2020-04-09 11:41:20 AM  
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2020-04-09 11:42:18 AM  
The 2 minutes in the air part is interesting.
 
2020-04-09 11:44:19 AM  

Evil Mackerel: I tired to explain that to some coworkers who think that this whole thing will "burn off" once it gets warm out.


Influenza and coronaviruses exhibit seasonal patterns in temperate regions, including the structurally-similar OC43 and SARS.
 
2020-04-09 11:45:53 AM  
Infrared Fart Cam (EDITED)
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Well, I'm a crop duster so this is old information.
I've always identified my target in the next aisle paying careful attention to which way the air system is blowing.
 
2020-04-09 11:46:56 AM  
A mask would be helpful in that it would mitigate this which is a helluva lot better than nothing.
 
2020-04-09 11:47:27 AM  
Can they use that to simulate how a money shot gets all over the place?
 
2020-04-09 11:49:25 AM  

This text is now purple: Evil Mackerel: I tired to explain that to some coworkers who think that this whole thing will "burn off" once it gets warm out.

Influenza and coronaviruses exhibit seasonal patterns in temperate regions, including the structurally-similar OC43 and SARS.


The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter yet these are not strangers to our land.
 
2020-04-09 11:49:43 AM  
Am awful lot of people report that SARS-CoV-2 can spread by asymptomatic and presymptomatic carriers breathing.

Do the people trying to make a viral video show that for comparison, or are they just exaggerating this visualization for effect?
 
2020-04-09 11:49:56 AM  

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get used to the new normal. as the planet warms expect more pandemics.


Yes I suppose it might be terrifying if you just learned this is how a cough spread everything all the time.

The Dog Ate My Homework: All the Karens in my neighborhood are holding this up in the air and insisting we all wear face masks while walking, running, and bicycling outside. It's hard to imagine how low the risk of contracting a virus from someone who flies by on a bicycle is. I suppose it's more than zero, but Jesus, there's a limit to what's a reasonable precaution, and if you can still breathe with a mask on while running or bicycling, you're not exercising very vigorously.


We passed reasonable a long time ago.
 
2020-04-09 11:49:59 AM  
it's ok, I'm quarantining in a refrigerator
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2020-04-09 11:51:18 AM  
So wait, coughing can spread microscopic particles that spread disease? Are the authorities aware of this shocking revelation? I don't think I'll ever leave the house again, just to be safe.
 
2020-04-09 11:52:08 AM  

dr_iacovone: Can they use that to simulate how a money shot gets all over the place?


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2020-04-09 11:53:03 AM  
In the labs and clean rooms I work in, the laminar airflow through ULPA filters is insane.  When we did the gas spectrometry of a CO2 release it was completely undetectable at 6ft and barely registered at 1ft. No computer models of what might happen, the actual gas patterns were collected.
 
2020-04-09 11:53:12 AM  
This is aerosol dispersion of the virus, the exact thing all the hospitals have been swearing to their staff is NOT happening unless you are performing a high aerosol risk procedure like intubation. They have been following CDC/WHO guidance that it is only transmitted via droplets, not mirco aerosol. More and more information is starting to come to light that says this fun little bug goes airborne when people cough and sneeze. So even if you are wearing a surgical mask, or a cloth masks, or covering your mouth with a handkerchief or using your elbow, you will not contain it all. All of these things help as they limit the volume that escapes/get airborne but it will not stop it from getting out.

This is the reason nurses and doctors have been screaming for N95 masks, they are far superior to the other mask types mentioned above and most of us are using in public while shopping etc. Hospitals have been refusing to issue N95 masks to their staff as a precautionary measure to reduce both infection and spreading it, only issuing the masks to health care providers caring for known cases and highly suspect cases has been in my opinion a farking crime.

I am so tired of listening to people whine about how they can't go out in public and do stuff without being harassed by Karens. Well this time around Karen has it right. If Karen has no choice to go out in public to get food, even though her mother at home is a high risk, or maybe even Karen has a pre existing conditions that make her high risk, the least you douchebros could do is wear a farking mask while you are out for your daily stroll, bike ride or dog walk. I mean all you are doing is risking Karen's life or maybe the life of Karen's mom with your highly important exercise regimen.
 
2020-04-09 11:59:04 AM  

some_beer_drinker: how about farting?


There is no better way to aerosol small particles than farting. No farting in public, you shouldn't be farting in public anyway you nasty person.

Maybe we should require everyone to wear butt plugs before going out. 

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2020-04-09 12:00:18 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: I mean all you are doing is risking Karen's life or maybe the life of Karen's mom with your highly important exercise regimen.


win-win.
 
2020-04-09 12:01:43 PM  
You know, we could be nice to each other and not cough in public???
No?
Soldiers in Vietnam had to hold farts to avoid giving away their position.
But you just keep acting like a cough is impossible to contain. See how that works out for us.
 
2020-04-09 12:04:35 PM  

This text is now purple: Evil Mackerel: I tired to explain that to some coworkers who think that this whole thing will "burn off" once it gets warm out.

Influenza and coronaviruses exhibit seasonal patterns in temperate regions, including the structurally-similar OC43 and SARS.


But that's not directly due to the air temperature on the virus itself. What I've read says that is due to travel, proximity with other people and possibly humidity in re: to mucus in your sinus. In other words it's more due to our own behaviors than the seasonal changes in temperature which have shown to be of zero influence with this covid-19.
 
2020-04-09 12:06:12 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: This is aerosol dispersion of the virus, the exact thing all the hospitals have been swearing to their staff is NOT happening unless you are performing a high aerosol risk procedure like intubation. They have been following CDC/WHO guidance that it is only transmitted via droplets, not mirco aerosol. More and more information is starting to come to light that says this fun little bug goes airborne when people cough and sneeze. So even if you are wearing a surgical mask, or a cloth masks, or covering your mouth with a handkerchief or using your elbow, you will not contain it all. All of these things help as they limit the volume that escapes/get airborne but it will not stop it from getting out.

This is the reason nurses and doctors have been screaming for N95 masks, they are far superior to the other mask types mentioned above and most of us are using in public while shopping etc. Hospitals have been refusing to issue N95 masks to their staff as a precautionary measure to reduce both infection and spreading it, only issuing the masks to health care providers caring for known cases and highly suspect cases has been in my opinion a farking crime.

I am so tired of listening to people whine about how they can't go out in public and do stuff without being harassed by Karens. Well this time around Karen has it right. If Karen has no choice to go out in public to get food, even though her mother at home is a high risk, or maybe even Karen has a pre existing conditions that make her high risk, the least you douchebros could do is wear a farking mask while you are out for your daily stroll, bike ride or dog walk. I mean all you are doing is risking Karen's life or maybe the life of Karen's mom with your highly important exercise regimen.


I still don't like Karen.
 
2020-04-09 12:07:31 PM  
Watch this video. Not a computer simulation, but an experiment with actual people. Scary

Microdoplets suspending in air. https://vimeo.com/402577241

/Not a rickroll. SFW.
//Fark won't let me link to it. Just copy/paste.
 
2020-04-09 12:08:52 PM  

waxbeans: But you just keep acting like a cough is impossible to contain. See how that works out for us.


Have you ever had a respiratory infection based cough?  It's literally involuntary and often quite painful.  I had a cold in January (not this thing) that gave me that, and I tried my damnedest not to cough because it hurt but every few minutes it was impossible not to.

If you have a cough from this thing, you just shouldn't be out, period.  Get someone to bring you groceries.
 
2020-04-09 12:09:02 PM  

baxterdog: This text is now purple: Evil Mackerel: I tired to explain that to some coworkers who think that this whole thing will "burn off" once it gets warm out.

Influenza and coronaviruses exhibit seasonal patterns in temperate regions, including the structurally-similar OC43 and SARS.

But that's not directly due to the air temperature on the virus itself. What I've read says that is due to travel, proximity with other people and possibly humidity in re: to mucus in your sinus. In other words it's more due to our own behaviors than the seasonal changes in temperature which have shown to be of zero influence with this covid-19.


Yep. Most people don't live alone. And when the weather is bad we huddle up in our homes and sicken each other . We should probably change the design of homes or live in efficiencies during the season......or something....or just accept deaths...like we shrug off flu murder.
 
2020-04-09 12:10:51 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Someone Else's Alt: 

I still don't like Karen.


No one likes Karen.
 
2020-04-09 12:11:32 PM  

asymptonic: waxbeans: But you just keep acting like a cough is impossible to contain. See how that works out for us.

Have you ever had a respiratory infection based cough?  It's literally involuntary and often quite painful.  I had a cold in January (not this thing) that gave me that, and I tried my damnedest not to cough because it hurt but every few minutes it was impossible not to.

If you have a cough from this thing, you just shouldn't be out, period.  Get someone to bring you groceries.


Exactly.
We need to change our attitude of warrioring on.
We need sick leave and we need bosses to send coughing people home with pay. Damn the size of their homes and Cadillacs.
 
2020-04-09 12:12:55 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Someone Else's Alt:

I still don't like Karen.

No one likes Karen.


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2020-04-09 12:25:40 PM  

SMB2811: Yes I suppose it might be terrifying if you just learned this is how a cough spread everything all the time.


So you're telling me you were aware a cough could spread pathogens into the next aisle and lingering suspended in air for up to 2 minutes?
 
2020-04-09 12:25:54 PM  

Jairzinho: Watch this video. Not a computer simulation, but an experiment with actual people. Scary

Microdoplets suspending in air. https://vimeo.com/402577241

/Not a rickroll. SFW.
//Fark won't let me link to it. Just copy/paste.


That video should be mandatory viewing for anyone who insists on shopping without a mask. (Yeah tiresome mask deniers, I know masks aren't perfect).
 
2020-04-09 12:26:10 PM  

baxterdog: This text is now purple: Evil Mackerel: I tired to explain that to some coworkers who think that this whole thing will "burn off" once it gets warm out.

Influenza and coronaviruses exhibit seasonal patterns in temperate regions, including the structurally-similar OC43 and SARS.

But that's not directly due to the air temperature on the virus itself. What I've read says that is due to travel, proximity with other people and possibly humidity in re: to mucus in your sinus. In other words it's more due to our own behaviors than the seasonal changes in temperature which have shown to be of zero influence with this covid-19.


And?
 
2020-04-09 12:29:22 PM  
You know what's great about simulations?
 
2020-04-09 12:38:19 PM  

T Baggins: Jairzinho: Watch this video. Not a computer simulation, but an experiment with actual people. Scary

Microdoplets suspending in air. https://vimeo.com/402577241

/Not a rickroll. SFW.
//Fark won't let me link to it. Just copy/paste.

That video should be mandatory viewing for anyone who insists on shopping without a mask. (Yeah tiresome mask deniers, I know masks aren't perfect).


Masks are more for sick people to keep their dirty plague secretions contained. If I wanted to protect myself from the plague carriers that refuse to use masks I'd need a hazmat suit.
Second, I'd have to be able to buy them to use them.
 
2020-04-09 12:40:24 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: SMB2811: Yes I suppose it might be terrifying if you just learned this is how a cough spread everything all the time.

So you're telling me you were aware a cough could spread pathogens into the next aisle and lingering suspended in air for up to 2 minutes?


If I can smell your fart in the next aisle, I'd bet your cough germs can go just as far.  I just kind of assumed that your cough could spread germs and hang around for a bit.  That's part of the reason for the whole "cover you mouth" method you should have been taught in preschool.  I suppose common knowledge isn't so common.
 
2020-04-09 12:44:07 PM  

trappedspirit: You know what's great about simulations?


No.
 
2020-04-09 12:51:13 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Giant Clown Shoe: SMB2811: Yes I suppose it might be terrifying if you just learned this is how a cough spread everything all the time.

So you're telling me you were aware a cough could spread pathogens into the next aisle and lingering suspended in air for up to 2 minutes?

If I can smell your fart in the next aisle, I'd bet your cough germs can go just as far.  I just kind of assumed that your cough could spread germs and hang around for a bit.  That's part of the reason for the whole "cover you mouth" method you should have been taught in preschool.  I suppose common knowledge isn't so common.


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they taught you pathogens can be introduced to your body after being suspended in the air for 2 minutes? 

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2020-04-09 12:56:27 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: [Fark user image image 380x330]

get used to the new normal. as the planet warms expect more pandemics.


This has nothing to do with "global warming". You alarmists are frickin' kooks.
 
2020-04-09 12:57:20 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Jeebus Saves: Giant Clown Shoe: SMB2811: Yes I suppose it might be terrifying if you just learned this is how a cough spread everything all the time.

So you're telling me you were aware a cough could spread pathogens into the next aisle and lingering suspended in air for up to 2 minutes?

If I can smell your fart in the next aisle, I'd bet your cough germs can go just as far.  I just kind of assumed that your cough could spread germs and hang around for a bit.  That's part of the reason for the whole "cover you mouth" method you should have been taught in preschool.  I suppose common knowledge isn't so common.

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they taught you pathogens can be introduced to your body after being suspended in the air for 2 minutes? 

idontbelieveyou.gif


No, no one taught me that.  Why would you not assume that they weren't?
 
2020-04-09 1:01:27 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: SMB2811: Yes I suppose it might be terrifying if you just learned this is how a cough spread everything all the time.

So you're telling me you were aware a cough could spread pathogens into the next aisle and lingering suspended in air for up to 2 minutes?


oo oo I knew I knew
 
2020-04-09 1:01:31 PM  

trappedspirit: You know what's great about simulations?


Yes. They allow you to investigate things without actually doing them.  They are awesome tools to allow us to understand the universe without actually harming others.

You got a problem with that?
 
2020-04-09 1:05:31 PM  

BigGrnEggGriller: Giant Clown Shoe: [Fark user image image 380x330]

get used to the new normal. as the planet warms expect more pandemics.

This has nothing to do with "global warming". You alarmists are frickin' kooks.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/​0​4/the-coronavirus-is-a-preview-of-our-​climate-change-future.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/margooge/​2020/03/24/the-coronavirus-pandemic-sh​ows-us-the-importance-of-combatting-cl​imate-change/#46760b071dba

https://newrepublic.com/article/15712​9​/next-pandemic-hiding-arctic-permafros​t

https://www.who.int/globalchange/clim​a​te/summary/en/index5.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti​c​les/PMC1568225/

I just made it up prolly
 
2020-04-09 1:20:51 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: SMB2811: Yes I suppose it might be terrifying if you just learned this is how a cough spread everything all the time.

So you're telling me you were aware a cough could spread pathogens into the next aisle and lingering suspended in air for up to 2 minutes?


Yes. I'm sorry I can't link to basic grade school health class but -

https://www.geisinger.org/health-and-​w​ellness/wellness-articles/2017/09/11/2​0/51/one-sneeze-spreads-germs-how-far

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifest​y​les/health/ct-distance-sneeze-germs-tr​avel-20170223-story.html

This one doesn't talk about distance but does cover how your actions in a room can re-stir pathogens up So your 2 minute estimate is way off -

https://www.livescience.com/3686-gros​s​-science-cough-sneeze.html
 
2020-04-09 1:21:20 PM  
But they said six feet? SMH
 
2020-04-09 1:25:37 PM  
so full of bull...

why not back the shot up to space and have it cover the world...?!?!?!
 
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