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2020-04-08 8:44:28 PM  
FTFA

Cmdr. John Fage, a spokesman for the 3rd Fleet, said the USS Nimitz is bringing many of its sailors aboard the ship to reduce their chance of being exposed to the virus as well as to more easily monitor their health for potential coronavirus symptoms.

Y
es, by all means, lets bring those sailors back on board a ship we know to have an outbreak of Covid 19.
 
2020-04-08 9:03:24 PM  
By the way there is a TV version of the 1976 film midway that's a bit longer and evens out the film a biatcharleston Heston still scenery chews his way through it looking like he's holding in a fart but still.
 
2020-04-08 9:55:04 PM  
Midway
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2020-04-08 10:33:05 PM  
Trane glances nervously around.
 
2020-04-09 4:42:13 AM  
Gay is wondering what the hell subby is on.
 
2020-04-09 4:50:55 AM  
Fire the captain.  Problem solved, liberinos.
 
2020-04-09 4:59:31 AM  
Those ships seem like good opportunities for epidemiology studies. Maybe they should isolate the crew on board.
 
2020-04-09 5:04:15 AM  
Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings
 
2020-04-09 5:05:49 AM  
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2020-04-09 5:18:51 AM  
I thought they had thicker hulls...
 
2020-04-09 5:31:44 AM  

Dahnkster: [Fark user image image 500x621]


SnowCrash was not a how to
 
2020-04-09 5:35:36 AM  
Would anyone be willing to hazard a guess as to what the current state of the Chinese and Russian military is, with regards to COVID-19?
 
2020-04-09 5:37:44 AM  

powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings


You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
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2020-04-09 5:41:50 AM  

punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
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Instructions unclear. Vocals were terrible. 
worst cover ever! *the final count down*
Youtube FjeMDvCdrtc
 
2020-04-09 5:47:26 AM  

punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]


They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.
 
2020-04-09 5:50:13 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.


Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.
 
2020-04-09 5:51:34 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.


Would you rather they show Battleship?
 
2020-04-09 5:52:04 AM  
The original, not the remake please.
 
2020-04-09 5:52:14 AM  

punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.


I'm pretty sure the only areas shown are in Hotel Nimitz. Nothing below the flight deck.
 
2020-04-09 5:55:44 AM  

punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Would you rather they show Battleship?


Ship's propaganda was The Final Countdown, Tora Tora Tora, and 9/11 footage on a continuous loop back in 2005. So...movies from the future would have been an improvement, yes.
 
2020-04-09 5:58:41 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Would you rather they show Battleship?

Ship's propaganda was The Final Countdown, Tora Tora Tora, and 9/11 footage on a continuous loop back in 2005. So...movies from the future would have been an improvement, yes.


They didn't even show Midway? The Battle that showed how valuable aircraft carriers were...Interesting...
 
2020-04-09 5:59:53 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.

I'm pretty sure the only areas shown are in Hotel Nimitz. Nothing below the flight deck.


But it did show a lot of the planes and aircraft onboard and when I was a kid it was impressive to think of all that hardware on one ship...
 
2020-04-09 6:04:24 AM  

punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.

I'm pretty sure the only areas shown are in Hotel Nimitz. Nothing below the flight deck.

But it did show a lot of the planes and aircraft onboard and when I was a kid it was impressive to think of all that hardware on one ship...


It's cool until you have to listen to the planes take off and land, and then realize they're mostly murdering innocent people at weddings.
 
2020-04-09 6:20:28 AM  
Well....there goes our air cover...
 
2020-04-09 6:20:59 AM  

punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.


Btw, I'm not trying to spoil your fun. Feel free to ask me about the ship, I'll answer any questions about it that aren't secret.
 
2020-04-09 6:23:09 AM  

Dahnkster: [Fark user image image 500x621]

Fwds from Grandma

 
2020-04-09 6:25:02 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Would anyone be willing to hazard a guess as to what the current state of the Chinese and Russian military is, with regards to COVID-19?


No. With my own country falling the f**k apart, I have no use for gloating over some other country's problems, and regard it as a deflection. Sounds like a good way to waste time, thought, and effort.
 
2020-04-09 6:31:05 AM  

gaslight: By the way there is a TV version of the 1976 film midway that's a bit longer and evens out the film a biatcharleston Heston still scenery chews his way through it looking like he's holding in a fart but still.


Midway had the potential to be a good film.  If they had stuck purely to historical persons and events, it would probably be up there with films like Tora! Tora! Tora! and A Bridge Too Far.

Throwing in that completely unnecessary star-crossed lover plot with the pilot in love with a Japanese woman and her parents being interred simple ruins the film.   And it's largely ahistorical, too:  mass internment of Japanese-Americans didn't happen in Hawaii.

If you're going to make a film about the battle of Midway, then make it about the battle.  If you're going to make a film about Japanese-American internment during WWII, make the film about that.  Mixing the two was an exceptionally stupid idea.

I mean, would A Bridge Too Far been as effective a film if there was a fictional sub-plot about the parents of Robert Redford's Jewish girlfriend being held in a Nazi concentration camp, and him attempting to rescue them?

Of course not.  That would be completely stupid.  Pearl Harbor levels of stupid, and completely unnecessary in telling the story of Operation Market Garden.

Midwaysuffers because of that subplot.
 
2020-04-09 6:32:43 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.


User name checks out.
 
2020-04-09 6:33:25 AM  

punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Would you rather they show Battleship?

Ship's propaganda was The Final Countdown, Tora Tora Tora, and 9/11 footage on a continuous loop back in 2005. So...movies from the future would have been an improvement, yes.

They didn't even show Midway? The Battle that showed how valuable aircraft carriers were...Interesting...


Here's the thing about modern warfare and carriers. They're not valuable. Modern carriers don't have armor and are easily sunk by submarines. They're purely for show and would be completely useless against an adversary like China or even Russia. One thing I learned during battle control drill was to get ready to kiss my ass goodbye if we were ever attacked.
 
2020-04-09 6:41:12 AM  

jso2897: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Would anyone be willing to hazard a guess as to what the current state of the Chinese and Russian military is, with regards to COVID-19?

No. With my own country falling the f**k apart, I have no use for gloating over some other country's problems, and regard it as a deflection. Sounds like a good way to waste time, thought, and effort.


I can assure you I'm absolutely not gloating, because no one in their right mind would be.  I'm actually mildly concerned what happens when a country's military begins falling apart due to attrition, what it might cause the nation to do, and what are the consequences to every other country around it.
 
2020-04-09 6:49:13 AM  
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Midway was mostly during my teen years.
 
2020-04-09 7:02:34 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Would you rather they show Battleship?

Ship's propaganda was The Final Countdown, Tora Tora Tora, and 9/11 footage on a continuous loop back in 2005. So...movies from the future would have been an improvement, yes.

They didn't even show Midway? The Battle that showed how valuable aircraft carriers were...Interesting...

Here's the thing about modern warfare and carriers. They're not valuable. Modern carriers don't have armor and are easily sunk by submarines. They're purely for show and would be completely useless against an adversary like China or even Russia. One thing I learned during battle control drill was to get ready to kiss my ass goodbye if we were ever attacked.


Well, no and yes.  I was on the Carl Vinson back when the Lincoln went into service.  The Lincoln had a deeper draft due to kevlar armor at the waterline and downward.  All subsequent carriers were to be outfitted with kevlar and the then-current carriers would be refitted during overhauls.
 
2020-04-09 7:12:50 AM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Would you rather they show Battleship?

Ship's propaganda was The Final Countdown, Tora Tora Tora, and 9/11 footage on a continuous loop back in 2005. So...movies from the future would have been an improvement, yes.

They didn't even show Midway? The Battle that showed how valuable aircraft carriers were...Interesting...

Here's the thing about modern warfare and carriers. They're not valuable. Modern carriers don't have armor and are easily sunk by submarines. They're purely for show and would be completely useless against an adversary like China or even Russia. One thing I learned during battle control drill was to get ready to kiss my ass goodbye if we were ever attacked.

Well, no and yes.  I was on the Carl Vinson back when the Lincoln went into service.  The Lincoln had a deeper draft due to kevlar armor at the waterline and downward.  All subsequent carriers were to be outfitted with kevlar and the then-current carriers would be refitted during overhauls.


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2020-04-09 7:15:01 AM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Would you rather they show Battleship?

Ship's propaganda was The Final Countdown, Tora Tora Tora, and 9/11 footage on a continuous loop back in 2005. So...movies from the future would have been an improvement, yes.

They didn't even show Midway? The Battle that showed how valuable aircraft carriers were...Interesting...

Here's the thing about modern warfare and carriers. They're not valuable. Modern carriers don't have armor and are easily sunk by submarines. They're purely for show and would be completely useless against an adversary like China or even Russia. One thing I learned during battle control drill was to get ready to kiss my ass goodbye if we were ever attacked.

Well, no and yes.  I was on the Carl Vinson back when the Lincoln went into service.  The Lincoln had a deeper draft due to kevlar armor at the waterline and downward.  All subsequent carriers were to be outfitted with kevlar and the then-current carriers would be refitted during overhauls.


I was ship's company and worked below the waterline. We were farked in any combat scenario.
 
2020-04-09 7:18:26 AM  

punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Would you rather they show Battleship?

Ship's propaganda was The Final Countdown, Tora Tora Tora, and 9/11 footage on a continuous loop back in 2005. So...movies from the future would have been an improvement, yes.

They didn't even show Midway? The Battle that showed how valuable aircraft carriers were...Interesting...


I would have slipped in there Under Siege
 
2020-04-09 7:26:04 AM  
Jerkstorebestseller:

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Yes, because an approximately 8,000 to 14,000 ton WWII escort carrier is an adequate simulation for what would happen to a modern 100,000+ ton supercarrier.
 
2020-04-09 7:30:23 AM  
Midway is the worst movie to come out in the past year
 
2020-04-09 7:32:09 AM  

dittybopper: Jerkstorebestseller:

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Yes, because an approximately 8,000 to 14,000 ton WWII escort carrier is an adequate simulation for what would happen to a modern 100,000+ ton supercarrier.


As someone that was on the Nimitz. Yes, it is. A modern navy should be exactly three kinds of ships. Attack subs, nuke missile subs, and conventional missile subs. The bubbleheads are right, everything on the surface is just a target.
 
2020-04-09 7:38:33 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: dittybopper: Jerkstorebestseller:

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L O L

Yes, because an approximately 8,000 to 14,000 ton WWII escort carrier is an adequate simulation for what would happen to a modern 100,000+ ton supercarrier.

As someone that was on the Nimitz. Yes, it is. A modern navy should be exactly three kinds of ships. Attack subs, nuke missile subs, and conventional missile subs. The bubbleheads are right, everything on the surface is just a target.


As someone who understands the concept of "displacement" and "relative size" and the concept of "power projection", no, it isn't.

This is like someone saying back in the 1960's that we don't need bombers anymore because we've got missiles.
 
2020-04-09 7:40:29 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: jso2897: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Would anyone be willing to hazard a guess as to what the current state of the Chinese and Russian military is, with regards to COVID-19?

No. With my own country falling the f**k apart, I have no use for gloating over some other country's problems, and regard it as a deflection. Sounds like a good way to waste time, thought, and effort.

I can assure you I'm absolutely not gloating, because no one in their right mind would be.  I'm actually mildly concerned what happens when a country's military begins falling apart due to attrition, what it might cause the nation to do, and what are the consequences to every other country around it.


Sorry if it came off as personally accusatory - didn't mean it that way.
I am just feeling really stubborn and reactionary right now about any attempt to deflect from the sickness that is rotting our own country, and it's body politic.
Underestimating other nation's military capabilities is a form of American arrogance that has gotten us in deep shiat before.
I remember when it was going to be a cakewalk to shut down a bunch of little rice paddy peasants in VietNam.
Or some starving tribesmen in Afghanistan.
 
2020-04-09 7:43:21 AM  

dittybopper: Jerkstorebestseller: dittybopper: Jerkstorebestseller:

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Yes, because an approximately 8,000 to 14,000 ton WWII escort carrier is an adequate simulation for what would happen to a modern 100,000+ ton supercarrier.

As someone that was on the Nimitz. Yes, it is. A modern navy should be exactly three kinds of ships. Attack subs, nuke missile subs, and conventional missile subs. The bubbleheads are right, everything on the surface is just a target.

As someone who understands the concept of "displacement" and "relative size" and the concept of "power projection", no, it isn't.

This is like someone saying back in the 1960's that we don't need bombers anymore because we've got missiles.


What do you think those 80+ aircraft on the carrier use as fuel? And where do you think that fuel is stored? L O farking L. JP5 don't give a shiat about displacement or relative size. Jesus farking christ. I'm pretty sure I can't tell you where the storage tanks are, but they're not safe. I had that shiat in my drinking water.
 
2020-04-09 7:49:00 AM  

jso2897: I am just feeling really stubborn and reactionary right now about any attempt to deflect from the sickness that is rotting our own country, and it's body politic.


??????

It's working as designed.   Just because you don't like who is in charge doesn't mean it's rotting.   It just means you don't like who is in charge.

I mean, you're not one of those third standard deviation wackos who think that Trump is going to declare himself president for life and suspend elections, are you?   I certainly hope not.  While we may not always see eye-to-eye, you don't impress me as that type.

We've got an election coming up in a few months, and then at the very *WORST*, you've only got a bit over 4 more years to endure.   It'll go much easier on you if every so often you stop, take a deep breath, step away from the cable news channels and political websites for a bit, and just carry on with your life instead of being perpetually enraged and outraged by what you know who who is doing all the time.

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2020-04-09 7:53:57 AM  

dittybopper: Jerkstorebestseller: dittybopper: Jerkstorebestseller:

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Yes, because an approximately 8,000 to 14,000 ton WWII escort carrier is an adequate simulation for what would happen to a modern 100,000+ ton supercarrier.

As someone that was on the Nimitz. Yes, it is. A modern navy should be exactly three kinds of ships. Attack subs, nuke missile subs, and conventional missile subs. The bubbleheads are right, everything on the surface is just a target.

As someone who understands the concept of "displacement" and "relative size" and the concept of "power projection", no, it isn't.

This is like someone saying back in the 1960's that we don't need bombers anymore because we've got missiles.


At the time of Peal Harbour carriers were still a bit "new" and Naval Doctrine still didn't quite know what to do with them and they tended to be used as forward spotters. Then the Japanese rocked up with what we now know as a Carrier Group. Elements of their doctrine were somewhat ahead of everyone else.
 
2020-04-09 7:55:47 AM  

punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.


Just taking a flyer here, but when you are aboard an aircraft carrier, the last thing you want to see is all the cool things it does as portrayed by hollywood.

/ Unless you are part the rust brigade and "Final Countdown" music is playing while you are pencil whipping the inspection sheet.
// Or onboard a the only russian carrier and want something to lift your spirits.
/// We need 2 tons of Chili Mac, extra greasy, now. Swabby start the intense mood music.
 
2020-04-09 7:59:30 AM  

Dahnkster: [Fark user image 500x621]


That's an old Air Force carrier.
 
2020-04-09 8:00:32 AM  

Xzano: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.

Just taking a flyer here, but when you are aboard an aircraft carrier, the last thing you want to see is all the cool things it does as portrayed by hollywood.

/ Unless you are part the rust brigade and "Final Countdown" music is playing while you are pencil whipping the inspection sheet.
// Or onboard a the only russian carrier and want something to lift your spirits.
/// We need 2 tons of Chili Mac, extra greasy, now. Swabby start the intense mood music.


Let's beat feet to the galley. They got hamsters!
 
2020-04-09 8:01:37 AM  
What happens to the rest of the carrier group, the escort ships, when a carrier is diverted to port?
 
2020-04-09 8:10:05 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: Xzano: punkwrestler: Jerkstorebestseller: punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
[gstatic.com image 850x1275]

They played that goddamn movie every day on the ship's propaganda channel during deployment when I was on the Nimitz. Just awful.

Well it does get to show a lot of cool things about aircraft carriers.

Just taking a flyer here, but when you are aboard an aircraft carrier, the last thing you want to see is all the cool things it does as portrayed by hollywood.

/ Unless you are part the rust brigade and "Final Countdown" music is playing while you are pencil whipping the inspection sheet.
// Or onboard a the only russian carrier and want something to lift your spirits.
/// We need 2 tons of Chili Mac, extra greasy, now. Swabby start the intense mood music.

Let's beat feet to the galley. They got hamsters!


Now I feel bad for all those times I got off a mid at 7 in the morning, grabbed a beer, and watched the 25th ID soldiers running by doing their morning PT.

/No, I really don't.
 
2020-04-09 8:18:42 AM  

punkwrestler: powhound: Just to clarify, if you don't know who Gay was in reference to the battle of Midway then you aren't qualified to reference it.

/one of my favorite WWII readings

You should be watching the Final Countdown to see all the capabilities of modern aircraft carriers...
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That movie has a fantastic film score.
 
2020-04-09 8:20:06 AM  

dittybopper: It's working as designed.


Correction. I would say it working as built. As designed is another matter.
 
2020-04-09 8:26:06 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: Btw, I'm not trying to spoil your fun. Feel free to ask me about the ship, I'll answer any questions about it that aren't secret.


What would happen to them in the first 30 days of the next war? There's what we want to happen to them, and what the other side will have in mind.
 
2020-04-09 8:30:14 AM  

bighairyguy: The original, not the remake please.


The original 1976 film featured a C-130 as a Japanese recon aircraft, so the remake HAS to be better.
 
2020-04-09 8:33:43 AM  
Here's the Midway March from the end of the film.
Midway March by John Williams
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2020-04-09 8:35:18 AM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: bighairyguy: The original, not the remake please.

The original 1976 film featured a C-130 as a Japanese recon aircraft, so the remake HAS to be better.


The new one is handsomely mounted but is frankly bizarre. It has no friggin' characters in it, just a parade of people delivering dialogue that we don't care about. It's ... odd.
 
2020-04-09 8:50:24 AM  

gaslight: Jerkstorebestseller: Btw, I'm not trying to spoil your fun. Feel free to ask me about the ship, I'll answer any questions about it that aren't secret.

What would happen to them in the first 30 days of the next war? There's what we want to happen to them, and what the other side will have in mind.


In a fight with a modern military, they would try to keep the carriers as far away from action as possible. They'd try to establish air superiority and have anti sub patrols, but that wouldn't do any good. Anti sub measures don't really work, because even if you do find a submarine, they'll just run away. All the detection technologies are essentially acoustic, so the sub will know if they've been found.  The carriers would be targeted by submarines or antiship missiles. The ships have limited antimissile capabilities, but can be easily overwhelmed by multiple targets. Hell, a supercarrier can be sunk by a determined crew of a speed boat if it could get close enough while shrugging off machine gun fire. But in all likelihood, they would just torpedo the carriers and all other vessels with submarines. Subs constantly win wargames when allowed to perform realistically. The US has only been able to maintain the myth of naval superiority, because we've never faced off against a modern military. Look at the USS Cole, that was little more than the aforementioned speedboat. Every ship in the navy is a glass cannon.
 
2020-04-09 10:27:23 AM  

jso2897: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: jso2897: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Would anyone be willing to hazard a guess as to what the current state of the Chinese and Russian military is, with regards to COVID-19?

No. With my own country falling the f**k apart, I have no use for gloating over some other country's problems, and regard it as a deflection. Sounds like a good way to waste time, thought, and effort.

I can assure you I'm absolutely not gloating, because no one in their right mind would be.  I'm actually mildly concerned what happens when a country's military begins falling apart due to attrition, what it might cause the nation to do, and what are the consequences to every other country around it.

Sorry if it came off as personally accusatory - didn't mean it that way.
I am just feeling really stubborn and reactionary right now about any attempt to deflect from the sickness that is rotting our own country, and it's body politic.
Underestimating other nation's military capabilities is a form of American arrogance that has gotten us in deep shiat before.
I remember when it was going to be a cakewalk to shut down a bunch of little rice paddy peasants in VietNam.
Or some starving tribesmen in Afghanistan.


I can relate.  And I promise you I didn't take it that way.  I legit have no idea what I'm talking about half the time and I am very, very unqualified discuss geopolitics and military affairs and being told that I am full of shiat is an actual valuable service to me at this point.


I think we're all entitled to be a little on edge and snippy right now.  We're in unknown territory.  We're all bracing for God knows what else., none of.it.good

So...yeah. don't worry about it.  We've got enough shiat to put up with as it is.  Consider a beer bought in your name. Or for you if we should ever meet.
 
2020-04-09 10:32:02 AM  
I thought the CIWS was supposed to prevent carriers from being hit. Time to dial up the sensitivity?
 
2020-04-09 10:40:06 AM  
There is no such thing as "Social distancing" on a ship. In the destroyer I was on, the berthing areas were very crowded. The racks were three high, and barely shoulder width apart. I'm surprised there are ships WITHOUT cv.
 
2020-04-09 11:03:01 AM  

Jerkstorebestseller: All the detection technologies are essentially acoustic


I really hope they've updated those, because we've built and tested new ones.  Maybe in 20 years when they do a refresh, assuming we're still around?  I mean ... yes, some of it's airborn and some of it's satellite, but another option was layering the group with cross-coverage network.  That shiat needs to be done now, if subs are that much of a problem.

Then again, who's modern?  Even I don't see that as a priority, and I'd love to see some 'mysterious alien' level tech being used by the US.  Anyway, back to work.
 
2020-04-09 11:27:59 AM  
I'm a lot more curious about our boomers. Submarines are a lot better insulated from the virus' getting on board in the first place, but if it does get on board, subs are almost uniquely vulnerable to rampant spread and having enough of the crew incapacitated to render the sub ineffective. And it's a much bigger deal to return to port.
 
2020-04-09 11:44:12 AM  
Watch the old one. That new movie sucks balls.
 
2020-04-09 12:21:56 PM  
Midway the second-best Chicago-area airport, or Midway the maker of high-tech pinball machines like The Addams Family from the early-90s pinball renaissance?

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I hope it's the pinball one because the airport is just depressing.
 
2020-04-09 12:30:35 PM  
I imagine Russia and China are taking notes on how to disable aircraft carriers without firing a single shot.
 
2020-04-09 1:42:08 PM  

dildo tontine: FTFA

Cmdr. John Fage, a spokesman for the 3rd Fleet, said the USS Nimitz is bringing many of its sailors aboard the ship to reduce their chance of being exposed to the virus as well as to more easily monitor their health for potential coronavirus symptoms.

Yes, by all means, lets bring those sailors back on board a ship we know to have an outbreak of Covid 19.


So, yeah, just what is going to take to disinfect these ships? How many people, how much equipment, and for how long? After the disinfection routine is complete, how long will the ship have to sit idle before the crew can safely return?

This is a really nasty situation all the way around. Modly was another f'g moron in the White House.
 
2020-04-09 1:48:46 PM  

Snarky Acronym: I imagine Russia and China are taking notes on how to disable aircraft carriers without firing a single shot.


Uh... I mean, there are accounts of biological warfare in the Old Testament, so I hope this isn't the first they're hearing about it.

Not that you're one of the conspiracy nuts, of course, but if this were Jina's secret bioweapon plan, they royally farked it up. And if taking out aircraft carriers was their goal, we can probably stop worrying about their brilliant strategic thinking.
 
2020-04-09 2:54:32 PM  

semiotix: Snarky Acronym: I imagine Russia and China are taking notes on how to disable aircraft carriers without firing a single shot.

Uh... I mean, there are accounts of biological warfare in the Old Testament, so I hope this isn't the first they're hearing about it.

Not that you're one of the conspiracy nuts, of course, but if this were Jina's secret bioweapon plan, they royally farked it up. And if taking out aircraft carriers was their goal, we can probably stop worrying about their brilliant strategic thinking.


The best thing about Biological is that it scares the professionals enough that they don't want to use it. It scares the amateurs because they don't want to die a screaming agonizing gooey mess.

The problem w/ biological warfare is that the major world powers were too successful. As of yet there is no magic bio weapon that you can turn on and off.

/ Hopefully that never happens if it does, everything in human society will come undone the day that is used.
// As for the outcome of such a  war, it doesn't matter who the combatants are, termites and roaches win hands down.
 
2020-04-09 3:07:16 PM  
It's a good thing the USA has more of those giant white elephants than everybody else in the world combined.

Spare capacity. Great thing to have in time of crisis. I wonder if they can turn them into emergency field hospitals. Can they get one up the Saint Lawrence-Great Lakes Seaway to Chicago or Detroit, or would it have to stop before Quebec City or Montreal?
 
2020-04-09 6:51:40 PM  

brantgoose: It's a good thing the USA has more of those giant white elephants than everybody else in the world combined.

Spare capacity. Great thing to have in time of crisis. I wonder if they can turn them into emergency field hospitals. Can they get one up the Saint Lawrence-Great Lakes Seaway to Chicago or Detroit, or would it have to stop before Quebec City or Montreal?


I of course bow to anyone who actually knows what he's talking about on this matter by my understanding is that nothing outside of the US and certain ports is that carrier groups like to keep everything over the horizon distant. I'd imagine this is not always possible when crossing sea lanes but if they like keeping people distant the St Lawrence River is the last place I'd do it. Probably the last carrier to sail it was the HMCS Bonaventure.
 
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