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(Axios)   Due to the coronavirus, public transit around the country is now in a death spiral. Just when it's needed most   (axios.com) divider line
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2020-04-09 11:47:04 AM  
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Need this now?
 
2020-04-09 12:43:02 PM  

Bearishlyphat: We need to tightly pack hundreds of people together into a poorly ventilated tube?


This thread is about buses, not airlines.
 
2020-04-09 1:58:49 PM  

mutt: Bearishlyphat: We need to tightly pack hundreds of people together into a poorly ventilated tube?

This thread is about buses, not airlines.


Yeah. I've occasionally had to ride the bus in the last few weeks, and they do usually have windows that open.

While airplanes' air filters might be efficient enough to clean the recirculated air, there's enough hang time inside the cabin to allow one infected person to spread the virus to several rows' worth of passengers.
 
2020-04-09 2:09:55 PM  

bughunter: Mister Buttons: Our local bus company is giving out free rides and has been running on Saturday (reduced operation) schedules since March 23.

They only open the back bus doors to keep you away from the driver/not germing up the the the ticket machine.

I have no idea how long they can keep it going.  The last two times I rode the most passengers I saw was five people on a normally fairly crowded line.

Accurately describes the situation here in Pasadena CA.

Pasadena Transit has been free for the past two weeks.  LA Metro is ostensibly still charging, but most drivers wave you away when you approach the till with a cash fare.  And the ridership is so low that it really doesn't make a difference.  I've been waiting for the announcment that they've cancelled or cut back service on my route to work.

Most passengers I encounter are either homeless or at high risk of becoming so soon.

I've become adept at riding without touching the handrails.


Add Eugene to that, except there are enough riders to impose a 15-passenger limit and run extra buses as needed.  And starting today, no face mask, no ride.
 
2020-04-09 2:46:50 PM  

stevesporn2000: I think you mean "due to cowardice and workers taking advantage of the opportunity to take a paid stay-cation" -- the NYC MTA for example has 5600 people vegging out at home while only 33 have died. The MTA has more than 50,000 employees, so 33 people dying in the area of the country progressing most quickly through infection is barely significant from a statistical level. I have never been more ashamed of my fellow countrymen until this past month.


Yea! Those 50,000 people should get back to spreading this thing! Not enough people are dead! We have medical workers just twiddling their thumbs.
 
2020-04-09 3:41:07 PM  

MikeyFuccon: It's not just the United States. It's everywhere in the industrialized world, including Canada.

It's downright creepy, watching empty Ottawa city buses whizz by with one or two riders, if that. Berlin's U-bahn had ghost stations during the cold war. Ottawa has an entire ghost public transit network. Ridership has dropped (by OC Transpo's own reckoning) by 70 to 90 percent. (I've taken the bus only once in the last three weeks, and the subway not at all.)

The "essential" workers who have no choice but to take the bus have to board at the back because bus drivers live in fear of being coughed on by a passenger. (Two OC Transpo employees have tested positive for COVID-19--and they may not be the only ones.)

OC Transpo, like many systems worldwide, is in a quandary. Running anything like a normal service makes no financial sense, but running too few buses and trains increases the risk of transmission among passengers.


It's almost like basic transportation needs to be considered as basic infrastructure instead of a value added thing in cities.
 
2020-04-09 3:45:55 PM  

wax_on: San Francisco has eliminated all but core service bus routes, like 12 city wide. A friend who rode on a bus last week described it as a cesspool of contamination. So good riddance.


We get it, you hate people who have to work for a living because you figured out how to be a leech on society's ass renting to other people.
 
2020-04-09 3:47:56 PM  

RecoveringLibertarian: jaylectricity: Why would public transportation be needed most right now?

A lot of grocery workers and cleaning(including medical/hospital cleaning) workers don't make enough to pay for a car, monthly insurance, gas etc...that's my guess


Or just live somewhere they can't park.  Also a big thing in cities.
 
2020-04-09 3:48:56 PM  

born_yesterday: Well there it is.


Right?  Made all the more impressive since you were born yesterday, so that had to be the dumbest thing you ever read.
 
2020-04-09 3:54:00 PM  

Straight Outta Hate: Mister Buttons: Our local bus company is giving out free rides and has been running on Saturday (reduced operation) schedules since March 23.

They only open the back bus doors to keep you away from the driver/not germing up the the the ticket machine.

I have no idea how long they can keep it going.  The last two times I rode the most passengers I saw was five people on a normally fairly crowded line.

I am not sure why the number of riders makes a difference if it is free


Honestly should be all the time.
 
2020-04-09 6:30:58 PM  

jaylectricity: Why would public transportation be needed most right now?


Public transit is a vector factory that we can't afford to keep running.
 
2020-04-09 7:42:54 PM  

lycanth: jaylectricity: Why would public transportation be needed most right now?

Public transit is a vector factory that we can't afford to keep running.


Well, get someone to un-steal my truck.
 
2020-04-09 9:38:36 PM  
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2020-04-09 9:41:20 PM  
Oh crap, wrong tab. Been a while, so I was due again.
 
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