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(BBC)   Boris Johnson "improving" to the extent he is "now able to sit up in bed", according to government officials who didn't tell us he couldn't do that previously   (bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2020-04-08 2:45:20 PM  
Subby was reading my mind. Just read that article and came here. Lol.
 
2020-04-08 2:46:34 PM  
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2020-04-08 2:46:39 PM  
so when they said he was in stable condition, he wasn't before?
 
2020-04-08 2:47:19 PM  

crackizzle: Subby was reading my mind. Just read that article and came here. Lol.


Agree!

They're full of shiat in England. I find it hard to imagine someone being more afraid of the truth.
 
2020-04-08 2:48:48 PM  
He's dead isn't he
 
2020-04-08 2:48:50 PM  
Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.
 
2020-04-08 2:50:55 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: so when they said he was in stable condition, he wasn't before?


He was very stable laying down.
 
2020-04-08 2:51:14 PM  
Just need a few more whacks to treat his rigormortis symptoms.
 
2020-04-08 2:51:29 PM  

PerpetualPeristalsis: Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.


Some people recover just fine from COVID-19.  Some recover and then suddenly kick it.

I know someone who was stable, improving, and then dead.  This is not an ordinary illness.
 
2020-04-08 2:51:33 PM  
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2020-04-08 2:52:28 PM  

PerpetualPeristalsis: Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.


Same as it ever was?

Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (Official Video)
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2020-04-08 2:52:33 PM  

Paddy: crackizzle: Subby was reading my mind. Just read that article and came here. Lol.

Agree!

They're full of shiat in England. I find it hard to imagine someone being more afraid of the truth.


Have you not seen what's coming out of the US for the past 3 years?
 
2020-04-08 2:52:36 PM  
If he was in the ICU he was/is on a ventilator.
 
2020-04-08 2:54:25 PM  
His handlers are closely reviewing Weekend at Bernie's and furiously taking notes.
 
2020-04-08 2:54:42 PM  

zeroman987: PerpetualPeristalsis: Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.

Some people recover just fine from COVID-19.  Some recover and then suddenly kick it.

I know someone who was stable, improving, and then dead.  This is not an ordinary illness.


Like the Spanish Flu.  There is a "wow, I'm really feeling better" moment, before it shifts into high gear.
 
2020-04-08 2:55:39 PM  
Is it wrong that I still assume he's dead?

Because I do.
 
2020-04-08 2:55:54 PM  
Now it is true that one of the cabinet ministers is ill... slightly ill. But Boris Johnson, he's just fine. He's at the controls, running the country, free to pursue a life of religious fulfilment.
 
2020-04-08 2:57:37 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: so when they said he was in stable condition, he wasn't before?


Lying in bed motionless is pretty stable, at least in the sense of physics.
 
2020-04-08 2:59:58 PM  

darkmayo: If he was in the ICU he was/is on a ventilator.


Saw somewhere else that that wasn't necessarily the case because of his "status" (government leader).  Moving him to ICU out of an abundance of caution wouldn't be out of the question
 
2020-04-08 3:00:06 PM  
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2020-04-08 3:01:17 PM  
well he his doing more as a exemple to get people isolating that he could ever do going around shaking hands or governing.
 
2020-04-08 3:01:37 PM  
He just needed a break from his estranged wife and preggo mistress. So far the 'rona is sparing the lives of the powerful and wealthy.
 
2020-04-08 3:07:58 PM  

darkmayo: If he was in the ICU he was/is on a ventilator.


That's not how this works. If you're on a ventilator you're in the ICU, but if you're in the ICU you're not necessarily on a vent.
 
2020-04-08 3:09:07 PM  
I saw a meme that was kind of hoping BJ would die today so he and Thatcher could have something else in common.
 
2020-04-08 3:13:46 PM  

Subtonic: His handlers are closely reviewing Weekend at Bernie's and furiously taking notes.


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2020-04-08 3:16:26 PM  

hammettman: zeroman987: PerpetualPeristalsis: Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.

Some people recover just fine from COVID-19.  Some recover and then suddenly kick it.

I know someone who was stable, improving, and then dead.  This is not an ordinary illness.

Like the Spanish Flu.  There is a "wow, I'm really feeling better" moment, before it shifts into high gear.


I wager someone one's kidney that is what will exactly happen here.
 
2020-04-08 3:20:21 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: so when they said he was in stable condition, he wasn't before?


His condition had worsened which was why he was moved to the ICU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical​_​state
Examples include that the patient is improving or getting worse. If no immediate change is expected, the term stable is frequently-used as a qualifier to denote conditions where a patient has stable vital signs.

It is possible for someone who is stable to be brain dead and on a ventilator.

> Mr Johnson was now sitting up in bed and "engaging positively" with the clinical team at St Thomas' Hospital in London, the chancellor added.

Was Boris "engaging positively" with the staff before? (screaming and swearing at them) Or was he unresponsive?
 
2020-04-08 3:26:25 PM  
Stings a bit.
 
2020-04-08 3:26:35 PM  
drown in your own juices motherfarker.
 
2020-04-08 3:26:54 PM  

zeroman987: PerpetualPeristalsis: Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.

Some people recover just fine from COVID-19.  Some recover and then suddenly kick it.

I know someone who was stable, improving, and then dead.  This is not an ordinary illness.


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That's pretty normal for anyone with a really bad illness.

Nearly everyone 'seems' to improve right before the end.  I don't know if it's adrenaline, your body giving one last gasp to fight it, acceptance, or a combination of all of those.  Then when that's through... you body has nothing left and gives up.

In this case, the illness hung around until his body just couldn't quite fight it off without help.  And when you're an out of shape older obese man who isn't healthy to begin with, that's what happens.
 
2020-04-08 3:27:27 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: darkmayo: If he was in the ICU he was/is on a ventilator.

That's not how this works. If you're on a ventilator you're in the ICU, but if you're in the ICU you're not necessarily on a vent.


Also, different countries and regions might classify different levels of care as being an ICU.

As to your (correct) point about ventilator cases being a subset of ICU admissions, here are today's numbers from Ontario.

Hospital admissions: 605
ICU Admissions: 246
ICU cases on ventilation: 195

As a commonwealth country, Canada's medical system probably uses similar definitions as the UK.
 
2020-04-08 3:27:36 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: so when they said he was in stable condition, he wasn't before?


Technically dead people are extremely stable.
 
2020-04-08 3:28:32 PM  

Someothermonkey: He's dead isn't he


It's fine, he's just pinin' for the fjords. Nail him to a podium and nobody will ever know.
 
2020-04-08 3:30:52 PM  

zeroman987: PerpetualPeristalsis: Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.

Some people recover just fine from COVID-19.  Some recover and then suddenly kick it.

I know someone who was stable, improving, and then dead.  This is not an ordinary illness.


You just described a cytokine storm.  They happen during any immune response to anything from infections to autoimmune reactions.
 
2020-04-08 3:44:57 PM  
Sometimes the dead do that.

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2020-04-08 3:48:27 PM  
They say he's fine but in the picture he looks like shiat,.
 
2020-04-08 3:53:47 PM  
I suspect he is planning to spend a year dead for tax reasons.
 
2020-04-08 4:10:14 PM  
Can a greasy bag of lumpy mashed potatoes sit up?
 
2020-04-08 4:31:46 PM  

Flincher: Can a greasy bag of lumpy mashed potatoes sit up?


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2020-04-08 4:53:24 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: so when they said he was in stable condition, he wasn't before?


Can't tip over if you're lying on your back in bed.
 
2020-04-08 4:59:02 PM  

This Is Bold Text: They say he's fine but in the picture he looks like shiat,.


He always looks like shiat.
 
2020-04-08 5:17:22 PM  

hammettman: zeroman987: PerpetualPeristalsis: Yeah, whatever condition the talking heads suggested he was in was undoubtedly far better than his actual situation.

Some people recover just fine from COVID-19.  Some recover and then suddenly kick it.

I know someone who was stable, improving, and then dead.  This is not an ordinary illness.

Like the Spanish Flu.  There is a "wow, I'm really feeling better" moment, before it shifts into high gear.


Any luck he's already had that moment. He posted a little "hey guys I'm feeling just fine now, think I'm through it" video (while looking even more like shiat than usual) on Friday, then information vacuum Saturday, then rushed to hospital Sunday (just a precaution!), then admitted to ICU Monday (purely precautionary!) then information vacuum Tuesday (he's stable!) and now Wednesday they're excited he's once again able to sit up in bed.

Given the course as generally described, it seems like the turn of the second week is when you go "hey yeah I'm good now, it's gonna be okay" and then you crash. If he's pulling out of it now he might be alright.

Or they could be lying their asses off as they scramble to line up a transition for the replacement to the very, very dead PM.
 
2020-04-08 5:24:23 PM  

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2020-04-08 5:44:30 PM  
Doesn't his day to day condition not matter a whole lot until he's free and clear?
I was under the impression that one corona decides to kill you, it happens very quickly.
I'm just going to wait until he tests clear a couple times in a row before I figure he's gonna make it and manage my expectations accordingly.

it is sorta funny that people are breathlessly keeping up with the status of someone who's breathless.
 
2020-04-08 6:09:07 PM  
Will he be able to play piano when he recovers?
 
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