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2020-04-06 12:57:19 PM  
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2020-04-06 1:01:06 PM  
That's a planned feature, not a bug.
 
2020-04-06 1:02:07 PM  
Yeah, there was a guy who died here of it. Had all the symptoms, tested positive...they say he died of a heart attack....

We are being lied to bigly.
 
2020-04-06 1:02:37 PM  
The GOP will say "Why difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:02:58 PM  
The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:03:04 PM  
We're going to be like Russia soon - more "pneumonia" deaths than COVID deaths
 
2020-04-06 1:05:44 PM  
The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:06:38 PM  

OldRod: We're going to be like Russia soon - more "pneumonia" deaths than COVID deaths


Have to wonder how many are being intentionally labeled pneumonia or flu related or even just natural causes.
 
2020-04-06 1:06:58 PM  
The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:11:55 PM  
The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:20:00 PM  
If anyone doesn't think that this administration isn't doing damage similar to what they claim China is doing then you are one naive son of a biatch.

We will never know the real numbers because we don't want to know the real numbers.
 
2020-04-06 1:23:42 PM  

Pincy: We will never know the real numbers because we don't want to know the real numbers.


This is ultimately what it comes down to. We'll never know the number of Americans who died either directly or indirectly from this pandemic. But, then, we don't care much in general how many Americans die either directly or indirectly from our health care system, either.
 
2020-04-06 1:28:22 PM  

Pincy: If anyone doesn't think that this administration isn't doing damage similar to what they claim China is doing then you are one naive son of a biatch.

We will never know the real numbers because we don't want to know the real numbers.


That is... well, true in a very technical sense but the bodies are still being counted and computing excess mortality is very straightforward so decent estimates will be available within a few months.
 
2020-04-06 1:29:11 PM  

Pincy: If anyone doesn't think that this administration isn't doing damage similar to what they claim China is doing then you are one naive son of a biatch.



The GOP only knows 2 things. Grift Or Projection
 
2020-04-06 1:30:14 PM  
I've posted this chart a few times before, but in light of this news I feel compelled to post it again.

I was worried they'd decide to prioritize tests for the living over the dead eventually when things got bad enough.. And I wanted to see where we would 'actually' be as things went along...

Back when the US reached 1000 deaths, and exponential growth was evident (doubling every 3 days) I created this chart, which has been correct so far... I suppose until we see some sort of sign that doesn't rely on testing, we'll have to assume that the count is still growing at this rate...

Obviously it'll plateau at some point before the end of the chart, hopefully we'll see some sort of sign, since we can no longer trust the official numbers.

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2020-04-06 1:31:14 PM  
The PIG will spray "What deferens does it malt, three dave?" whiteout ant tint of iron.
 
2020-04-06 1:36:51 PM  
Do not taunt happy fun virus.
 
2020-04-06 1:37:05 PM  

OldRod: We're going to be like Russia soon - more "pneumonia" deaths than COVID deaths


Texas is already going that way.

If you say it's COVID19, they tell you "YOU'RE HYSTERICAL!"
 
2020-04-06 1:38:13 PM  

brax33: Obviously it'll plateau at some point before the end of the chart, hopefully we'll see some sort of sign, since we can no longer trust the official numbers.


Well, if it doesn't, we'll need an "int" by day 60.
 
2020-04-06 1:38:21 PM  
A way to get an idea of the missing deaths is to compare pneumonia deaths from this time last year and this month in years with similar levels of influenza.

What you'll see is a lot more pneumonia deaths, and those extras are Covid-19 victims.
 
2020-04-06 1:38:39 PM  
What difference does it make, they're dead?
 
2020-04-06 1:38:50 PM  
And these misleading medical statistics are going to screw with things for decades as we struggle to explain why we had an unexplained upswing in pneumonia and heart failures.
 
2020-04-06 1:39:30 PM  
Mark my words.

Trump and company threw out that 240,000 number because the reported number will NEVER get that high. I ran a few regressions based on reported cases and if I'm right (I very well might not be), the total number of deaths attributable to coronavirus will be reported between 90-105K by August.

That 240K number is so when nearly (or slightly more than) 100K die, Trump can say "durrr look what a bigly good job I did. I cut expected deaths in half."
 
2020-04-06 1:40:29 PM  
Really? Just like the total case count is low too.
 
2020-04-06 1:40:31 PM  
"Covid. Big deal. The flu killed 2 million people this year so far."
 
2020-04-06 1:41:04 PM  
The Smiths - What Difference Does It Make? (Official Music Video)
Youtube XbOx8TyvUmI
 
2020-04-06 1:41:18 PM  
Drax will say "Who difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:41:51 PM  
GardenWeasel:

The Smiths - What Difference Does It Make? (Official Music Video)
Youtube XbOx8TyvUmI
 
2020-04-06 1:41:57 PM  
The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:43:04 PM  

GardenWeasel: The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.


Maybe even twice.
 
2020-04-06 1:43:18 PM  

AuralArgument: GardenWeasel:

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/XbOx8Tyv​UmI]


That joke isn't funny anymore.
 
2020-04-06 1:43:33 PM  
Regional update: we now have confirmed Covid cases in Los Alamos, New Mexico.

Per the lab emails, there are two cases confirmed, and they are bracing for a huge spike in northern New Mexico. This means, loosely, that there are going to be confirmed cases on lab property, which is where the dung meets the rotating equipment, frankly.

The problem is, the lab employs about 12000 people and the entire northern half of the state is never more than about two degrees of separation from a lab employee. I like to joke that you can't throw a rock without hitting a physicist.

You want a national security concern? I give you a pandemic on national lab property.

/as a side note, it's also now on the reservations/pueblos
//and running water is, sadly, still considered optional on reservations
///please support your native communities from a respectful distance at this time
 
2020-04-06 1:43:46 PM  
thepeterd:

Mary Wells - You Beat Me To The Punch
Youtube OCUXSdg6PCc
 
2020-04-06 1:44:05 PM  

Subtonic: What difference does it make, they're dead?


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2020-04-06 1:44:54 PM  

UberDave: brax33: Obviously it'll plateau at some point before the end of the chart, hopefully we'll see some sort of sign, since we can no longer trust the official numbers.

Well, if it doesn't, we'll need an "int" by day 60.


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2020-04-06 1:45:25 PM  

Ringshadow: Regional update: we now have confirmed Covid cases in Los Alamos, New Mexico.

Per the lab emails, there are two cases confirmed, and they are bracing for a huge spike in northern New Mexico. This means, loosely, that there are going to be confirmed cases on lab property, which is where the dung meets the rotating equipment, frankly.

The problem is, the lab employs about 12000 people and the entire northern half of the state is never more than about two degrees of separation from a lab employee. I like to joke that you can't throw a rock without hitting a physicist.

You want a national security concern? I give you a pandemic on national lab property.

/as a side note, it's also now on the reservations/pueblos
//and running water is, sadly, still considered optional on reservations
///please support your native communities from a respectful distance at this time


New Mexico eh? Bet the wall doesn't sound so silly now, does it?

...wait. Yes, yes it does.
 
2020-04-06 1:45:57 PM  

cretinbob: Yeah, there was a guy who died here of it. Had all the symptoms, tested positive...they say he died of a heart attack....

We are being lied to bigly.


Almost everyone dies because their heart stops beating.
 
2020-04-06 1:46:30 PM  
Where the fark are the tests?!

The monumental failing of the Trump administration continues. They've had months to get tests mass produced so we'd have some hope of knowing where the infections are.
 
2020-04-06 1:46:33 PM  
We're going to have to reinvestigate Benghazi to find the answer.
 
2020-04-06 1:48:09 PM  

Jake Havechek: We're going to have to reinvestigate Benghazi to find the answer.


Not to mention getting to the bottom of this Chappaquiddick business.
 
2020-04-06 1:49:09 PM  
The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:49:39 PM  
Comparison of overall deaths this year compared to last will need to be done. I always hated overalls anyway😎
 
2020-04-06 1:49:55 PM  
I can't help but feel like the "drop off" in cases is because our ability to test has plateaued and we can't get a good read on anything, from infection rate to death rate.

This makes me very nervous.
 
2020-04-06 1:50:03 PM  

WayneKerr: AuralArgument: GardenWeasel:

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/XbOx8Tyv​UmI]

That joke isn't funny anymore.


You can say THAT again!
 
2020-04-06 1:50:40 PM  

Mad Scientist: The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.


This bears repeating.
 
2020-04-06 1:51:03 PM  
The GOP will say "What difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.
 
2020-04-06 1:51:35 PM  
Once this is over, we'll be able to figure out rates of death by comparing death rates from prior years.  In Italy, there have been some reports where the "excess deaths" number is 5x the official death report.
 
2020-04-06 1:51:36 PM  

patrick767: Subtonic: What difference does it make, they're dead?

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2020-04-06 1:51:41 PM  
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Major Rawls agrees with this.  He needs the numbers kept down.
 
2020-04-06 1:52:10 PM  

GardenWeasel: The GOP will say "Why difference does it make, they're dead?" without any hint of irony.


The lying bastard GOP-controlled....New York City?

/seriously, you need professional help if you're going to politicize every goddamn thing in your life.
 
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