Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The Atlantic)   It's not "September 12" anymore   (theatlantic.com) divider line
    More: Followup, George W. Bush, War on Terrorism, Iraq War, Osama bin Laden, United States, Al-Qaeda, September 11 attacks, President of the United States  
•       •       •

4005 clicks; posted to Politics » on 06 Apr 2020 at 9:10 PM (13 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



56 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2020-04-06 11:34:06 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size


They say our love won't pay the rent
Before it's earned, our money's all been spent
I guess that's so, we don't have a plot
But at least I'm sure of all the things we got
 
2020-04-06 12:14:42 PM  
I'd like to see the end of all the bad things that Bush did after 9/11 and go back to being a free country.

Repeal the Patriot Act and all offshoots; reduce DHS back into it's old components' responsibilities; abolish TSA and the whole bloated airport security theater system; get rid of the whole Big Brother Is Watching surveillance system. There's probably more, but it's become so much a part of our lives and it's hard to remember.

Also, stop thinking of ourselves as the entire world's Policeman/Bully, and stop invading the damn Middle East already.
 
2020-04-06 5:46:39 PM  

MrBallou: I'd like to see the end of all the bad things that Bush did after 9/11 and go back to being a free country.

Repeal the Patriot Act and all offshoots; reduce DHS back into it's old components' responsibilities; abolish TSA and the whole bloated airport security theater system; get rid of the whole Big Brother Is Watching surveillance system. There's probably more, but it's become so much a part of our lives and it's hard to remember.

Also, stop thinking of ourselves as the entire world's Policeman/Bully, and stop invading the damn Middle East already.


Well, this is a strange thing. The GOP doesn't understand how to use this pandemic to their advantage.... it's killing off their hard core supporters, it's showing many of their borderline supporters what they are really about, and while they could turn their rage toward the Chinese, the Chinese own them, so they'll never take real measures (any more than they did against the Saudis).

People are angry already, but by the end of the summer, they'll be madder than anybody has been in America for a long time. Nobody will be untouched by this pandemic, and the GOP, as it currently stands, is incapable of understanding the personal cost of this tragedy - and have no idea how to deal with the economic cost; which is why they were so resistant to taking appropriate measures to stop the spread of the virus.

Even a best case scenario will pit everybody but their "base" against the republicans. In the worst case? It will be uglier than any of us can imagine.

Will the democrats take advantage of the change to put forward true progressive policies and erase the worst of the mistakes of the 9/11 response? One can hope... but abolishing ICE and reforming Customs and Border controls might not happen in a realpolitik environment where restricting travel restricts infection rates. It might speed up the withdrawal from hostile countries, but isolation serves the conservative, reactionary ideology more than a progressive one.

We still have no idea what this pandemic will mean on the world stage yet. At the very least, Asian and African "wet markets" need to be abolished; how that happens, under what other considerations, who knows... there could be violence, there could be deals. China may also be called to answer for their part in this mess, and they do have a responsibility for this, both in allowing the situation to arise, as well as their role in obfuscating the severity of this outbreak. Other forces will also find new channels to attack other nations; Russia in particular, will likely move to attack the western nations with cyberattacks to take advantage of a destablized political situation, or even outright military moves - emboldened by the lack of will from a pandemic weakened west.

You'll never get rid of the surveillance, and rooting out TSA impacts the pocketbooks of airlines who would have to return to paying for airport security (I'm all for getting rid of this freebie, mind you). We may also need some emergency powers just to get some economic forces aligned with a recovery. It's too early to tell what sort of tools will be needed when a real administration takes over in Washington. I doubt much can be done until they repair all the  damage done by Trump and his cronies, and that may take years, if not decades.
 
2020-04-06 6:57:59 PM  

LesserEvil: MrBallou: I'd like to see the end of all the bad things that Bush did after 9/11 and go back to being a free country.

Repeal the Patriot Act and all offshoots; reduce DHS back into it's old components' responsibilities; abolish TSA and the whole bloated airport security theater system; get rid of the whole Big Brother Is Watching surveillance system. There's probably more, but it's become so much a part of our lives and it's hard to remember.

Also, stop thinking of ourselves as the entire world's Policeman/Bully, and stop invading the damn Middle East already.

Well, this is a strange thing. The GOP doesn't understand how to use this pandemic to their advantage.... it's killing off their hard core supporters, it's showing many of their borderline supporters what they are really about, and while they could turn their rage toward the Chinese, the Chinese own them, so they'll never take real measures (any more than they did against the Saudis).

People are angry already, but by the end of the summer, they'll be madder than anybody has been in America for a long time. Nobody will be untouched by this pandemic, and the GOP, as it currently stands, is incapable of understanding the personal cost of this tragedy - and have no idea how to deal with the economic cost; which is why they were so resistant to taking appropriate measures to stop the spread of the virus.

Even a best case scenario will pit everybody but their "base" against the republicans. In the worst case? It will be uglier than any of us can imagine.

Will the democrats take advantage of the change to put forward true progressive policies and erase the worst of the mistakes of the 9/11 response? One can hope... but abolishing ICE and reforming Customs and Border controls might not happen in a realpolitik environment where restricting travel restricts infection rates. It might speed up the withdrawal from hostile countries, but isolation serves the conservative, reactionary ideology more than a progressive one.

We still have no idea what this pandemic will mean on the world stage yet. At the very least, Asian and African "wet markets" need to be abolished; how that happens, under what other considerations, who knows... there could be violence, there could be deals. China may also be called to answer for their part in this mess, and they do have a responsibility for this, both in allowing the situation to arise, as well as their role in obfuscating the severity of this outbreak. Other forces will also find new channels to attack other nations; Russia in particular, will likely move to attack the western nations with cyberattacks to take advantage of a destablized political situation, or even outright military moves - emboldened by the lack of will from a pandemic weakened west.

You'll never get rid of the surveillance, and rooting out TSA impacts the pocketbooks of airlines who would have to return to paying for airport security (I'm all for getting rid of this freebie, mind you). We may also need some emergency powers just to get some economic forces aligned with a recovery. It's too early to tell what sort of tools will be needed when a real administration takes over in Washington. I doubt much can be done until they repair all the  damage done by Trump and his cronies, and that may take years, if not decades.


fark the GOP, fark the tsa, fark the dhs, fark the patriot act, fark ice, fark the people who think Gitmo is a good thing. And fark dick Cheney right in the ass with a 36 " bar chain Saw powered by a v8 engine.
Make America America again.
Stop being greedy cowards.
Start being brave helpers.

farking yellow bellied, lily livered, GOP.
 
2020-04-06 7:36:26 PM  

vudukungfu: fark the GOP, fark the tsa, fark the dhs, fark the patriot act, fark ice, fark the people who think Gitmo is a good thing. And fark dick Cheney right in the ass with a 36 " bar chain Saw powered by a v8 engine.
Make America America again.
Stop being greedy cowards.
Start being brave helpers.

farking yellow bellied, lily livered, GOP.


Yup, Obama convinced me it's ok to be a democrat, Trump radicalized me long before this year - the treason they are expressing in 2020 (Impeachment sham trial in the Senate, the bungling of the pandemic response) have me firmly on the side of "tree of liberty..." type of action.
 
2020-04-06 8:12:50 PM  
I'm going to sound like a dick, but.....

9/11 was the last time I was truly shocked. I was in 9th grade when it happened and I remember teachers wheeling in TV's to watch the news. So it was horrific being 14 watching that.

Decades later now, it has been drilled into our heads. Every Sept 11th we have to stop what we are doing to remember. The constant thinking about it in the news for years, has made me, decensitized in a way. I watch the news and hear of some tragedy now, and it doesn't even phase me.

I lost the ability to be shocked, and now I'm just tired of hearing about it.

/It is a tragedy, not saying it isnt
//I wish I wasnt so decensitized
///But 24hr news cycles of mass death on a daily basis, I just have to shrug and move on at most things now
 
2020-04-06 9:15:08 PM  
The terrorists are inside the house, now.
 
2020-04-06 9:16:57 PM  
No shiat

Fark user imageView Full Size


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-04-06 9:18:14 PM  

AsparagusFTW: I'm going to sound like a dick, but.....

9/11 was the last time I was truly shocked. I was in 9th grade when it happened and I remember teachers wheeling in TV's to watch the news. So it was horrific being 14 watching that.

Decades later now, it has been drilled into our heads. Every Sept 11th we have to stop what we are doing to remember. The constant thinking about it in the news for years, has made me, decensitized in a way. I watch the news and hear of some tragedy now, and it doesn't even phase me.

I lost the ability to be shocked, and now I'm just tired of hearing about it.

/It is a tragedy, not saying it isnt
//I wish I wasnt so decensitized
///But 24hr news cycles of mass death on a daily basis, I just have to shrug and move on at most things now


I definitely get it and the fact politicians abused it for such ill-conceived things like the Iraq War didn't help either.

But I will recommend that if you're ever in New York, to stop at the World Trade Center. The museum they have on 9/11 really does an incredible job at capturing the human element that day. The memorial is also well-done also.
 
2020-04-06 9:18:29 PM  
9 12 2001 Texas : uncover your face
2020 Texas : wear a niqab or be fined $1,000

Frankly I feel like I can go out in a paranoid environment suit, like the space alien I really am, and finally look smart and comfortable in public, instead of weird.
 
2020-04-06 9:18:54 PM  

vudukungfu: fark the GOP, fark the tsa, fark the dhs, fark the patriot act, fark ice, fark the people who think Gitmo is a good thing. And fark dick Cheney right in the ass with a 36 " bar chain Saw powered by a v8 engine.
Make America America again.
Stop being greedy cowards.
Start being brave helpers.

farking yellow bellied, lily livered, GOP.


Again? America's greatness and the ideals we preached have never been anything more than surface-level. Under that surface, we've always been rotten. Slavery, Jim Crow, the genocide of the Native Americans, Japanese internment, systemic prejudice against women and minorities, an absurd prison population...and that's just at home. Abroad, we supported (and continue to support) brutal dictators and murderous extremist groups, and toppled legitimate governments if they wouldn't play nice with our corporations.

So, no. We don't need to make America America again. We need to make America live up to the ideals it claims to espouse for once, or at least join the rest of the developed world in the 21st century.
 
2020-04-06 9:21:14 PM  
It's gone on ten years too long. It's a level of absurdity that we have to endure all sorts of half-baked security measures at the airport just on the basis that terrorism will strike in the most predictable way imaginable (which runs counter to the actual nature of terrorism.)
 
2020-04-06 9:21:36 PM  
Right wingers loved the post 9/11 era, they got to shove America down half a dozen slippery slopes to fascism.
 
2020-04-06 9:21:47 PM  
It is telling that the two most horrific events in my life have happened under GOP presidents.
 
2020-04-06 9:22:50 PM  
9/11 or as I call it, "that one day right-wingers pretended to like New York".
 
2020-04-06 9:23:49 PM  

AsparagusFTW: I'm going to sound like a dick, but.....

9/11 was the last time I was truly shocked. I was in 9th grade when it happened and I remember teachers wheeling in TV's to watch the news. So it was horrific being 14 watching that.

Decades later now, it has been drilled into our heads. Every Sept 11th we have to stop what we are doing to remember. The constant thinking about it in the news for years, has made me, decensitized in a way. I watch the news and hear of some tragedy now, and it doesn't even phase me.

I lost the ability to be shocked, and now I'm just tired of hearing about it.

/It is a tragedy, not saying it isnt
//I wish I wasnt so decensitized
///But 24hr news cycles of mass death on a daily basis, I just have to shrug and move on at most things now


It's weird. I remember how crazy that day was, almost to the minute, and I think about this crisis and I'm still having trouble wrapping my brain around it all. There's so much to it, and it just keeps going and going. I still remember that it took until regular radio came back online, at 5pm the night of the 13th, before I felt a little normal again. I'm not sure when that moment is gonna come this time around, and the worst part is, I don't even know IF that moment is gonna come. So much is messed up right now, it's just hard to comprehend.
 
2020-04-06 9:28:03 PM  

RyansPrivates: It is telling that the two most horrific events in my life have happened under GOP presidents.


And the Baby Boomers have again proven they have no farking idea how to handle a crisis nor will they let anyone else have a crack at it. They can't lead, won't follow, and refuse to get out of the way.
 
2020-04-06 9:28:18 PM  

jso2897: The terrorists are inside the house, now.





Fark user imageView Full Size


/ and Trumpy's getting larger
 
2020-04-06 9:28:32 PM  
Meh. Wake me up when September ends.
 
2020-04-06 9:30:52 PM  

FriarReb98: AsparagusFTW: I'm going to sound like a dick, but.....

9/11 was the last time I was truly shocked. I was in 9th grade when it happened and I remember teachers wheeling in TV's to watch the news. So it was horrific being 14 watching that.

Decades later now, it has been drilled into our heads. Every Sept 11th we have to stop what we are doing to remember. The constant thinking about it in the news for years, has made me, decensitized in a way. I watch the news and hear of some tragedy now, and it doesn't even phase me.

I lost the ability to be shocked, and now I'm just tired of hearing about it.

/It is a tragedy, not saying it isnt
//I wish I wasnt so decensitized
///But 24hr news cycles of mass death on a daily basis, I just have to shrug and move on at most things now

It's weird. I remember how crazy that day was, almost to the minute, and I think about this crisis and I'm still having trouble wrapping my brain around it all. There's so much to it, and it just keeps going and going. I still remember that it took until regular radio came back online, at 5pm the night of the 13th, before I felt a little normal again. I'm not sure when that moment is gonna come this time around, and the worst part is, I don't even know IF that moment is gonna come. So much is messed up right now, it's just hard to comprehend.


We can get through this.
Do what you can and stay safe.

Civilization can be rebuilt.
Lockdown tv for you: Cody's Lab. It's like Bob Ross Myth Busters.
https://www.youtube.com/user/theCodyR​e​eder

Plant  a garden.
 
2020-04-06 9:31:47 PM  

Riothamus: RyansPrivates: It is telling that the two most horrific events in my life have happened under GOP presidents.

And the Baby Boomers have again proven they have no farking idea how to handle a crisis nor will they let anyone else have a crack at it. They can't lead, won't follow, and refuse to get out of the way.


And in both cases, serious professionals in the previous administrations (Democrats) were ignored because well, "Democrats".  Richard Clarke knew extensively about the problem Bin Laden was.  Obama had a team of people who knew extensively about the threat of a pandemic and had built a runbook for it.  In both cases? Ignored.
 
2020-04-06 9:32:46 PM  
It's not the end of the post-September 11 era when we still have politicians both in office and trying to get elected that voted for the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act, which were the biggest bruises we incurred.

The post-9/11 era will end when these vermin have been chased out of Washington.
 
2020-04-06 9:35:36 PM  

Mrtraveler01: 9/11 or as I call it, "that one day right-wingers pretended to like New York".


Are you kidding? True right wingers love New York as long as you're talking about Manhattan or The Hamptons or one of those other moneyed places.

Impoverished right wingers hate New York.
 
2020-04-06 9:36:01 PM  

vudukungfu: LesserEvil: MrBallou: I'd like to see the end of all the bad things that Bush did after 9/11 and go back to being a free country.

Repeal the Patriot Act and all offshoots; reduce DHS back into it's old components' responsibilities; abolish TSA and the whole bloated airport security theater system; get rid of the whole Big Brother Is Watching surveillance system. There's probably more, but it's become so much a part of our lives and it's hard to remember.

Also, stop thinking of ourselves as the entire world's Policeman/Bully, and stop invading the damn Middle East already.

Well, this is a strange thing. The GOP doesn't understand how to use this pandemic to their advantage.... it's killing off their hard core supporters, it's showing many of their borderline supporters what they are really about, and while they could turn their rage toward the Chinese, the Chinese own them, so they'll never take real measures (any more than they did against the Saudis).

People are angry already, but by the end of the summer, they'll be madder than anybody has been in America for a long time. Nobody will be untouched by this pandemic, and the GOP, as it currently stands, is incapable of understanding the personal cost of this tragedy - and have no idea how to deal with the economic cost; which is why they were so resistant to taking appropriate measures to stop the spread of the virus.

Even a best case scenario will pit everybody but their "base" against the republicans. In the worst case? It will be uglier than any of us can imagine.

Will the democrats take advantage of the change to put forward true progressive policies and erase the worst of the mistakes of the 9/11 response? One can hope... but abolishing ICE and reforming Customs and Border controls might not happen in a realpolitik environment where restricting travel restricts infection rates. It might speed up the withdrawal from hostile countries, but isolation serves the conservative, reactionary ideology more than a p ...


You might want to accept some of that responsibility as the previous admin didn't roll back those things you're biatching about.
 
2020-04-06 9:38:52 PM  
What do you want to bet that when September 11 rolls around again the short-fingered vulgarian and his ilk will dig up 9/11's grave, fish her dessicated corpse out of the Tupperware coffin, doll her body up like Tammy Fay, fark her corpse like a duck getting it's nut, then trot her around while crying what a shame it all had to happen while their credibility dribbles from rends in her oft patched flesh.

/ Enjoy
 
2020-04-06 9:45:43 PM  

AsparagusFTW: I'm going to sound like a dick, but.....

9/11 was the last time I was truly shocked. I was in 9th grade when it happened and I remember teachers wheeling in TV's to watch the news. So it was horrific being 14 watching that.


I'm going to sound like even more of a dick, but...

I wasn't even shocked by 9/11. I was 27 and walked into my job that day with no idea what had been going on. When my boss broke the news I said something to the effect of "Oh great now Cheney has an excuse to blow up Iraq." My boss called me a cynical asshole.

He was right, and never have I felt worse about being totally right.

I lost faith in this country a long time ago, and this current shiatstorm is just reinforcing that.
 
2020-04-06 9:48:57 PM  
I've often said that the 2000s have been the decade that refuses to end.

misanthropicsob: It's not the end of the post-September 11 era when we still have politicians both in office and trying to get elected that voted for the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act, which were the biggest bruises we incurred.

The post-9/11 era will end when these vermin have been chased out of Washington.


Since 2004, every single presidential nominee that approved of invading Iraq lost. And this trend isn't limited to one party, either.

2004: John Kerry (D)
2008: John McCain (R)
2016: Hillary Clinton (D)
 
2020-04-06 10:15:55 PM  

RyansPrivates: It is telling that the two most horrific events in my life have happened under GOP presidents.


And each in their first term, after having won the electoral college but not the popular vote.
 
2020-04-06 10:17:03 PM  

inglixthemad: No shiat

[Fark user image 850×477]

[Fark user image 500×500]

I believe today we surpassed 9/11 × Benghazi. 9/11 Benghazi, or Benghazi 9/11s.

Bith Set Me Up: I've often said that the 2000s have been the decade that refuses to end.

misanthropicsob: It's not the end of the post-September 11 era when we still have politicians both in office and trying to get elected that voted for the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act, which were the biggest bruises we incurred.

The post-9/11 era will end when these vermin have been chased out of Washington.

Since 2004, every single presidential nominee that approved of invading Iraq lost. And this trend isn't limited to one party, either.

2004: John Kerry (D)
2008: John McCain (R)
2016: Hillary Clinton (D)

Not quite true. While George W. Bush was the incumbent, he was also the GOP nominee in 2004 (just as Obama was for the DNC in 2012 and as Trump will be for the GOP this year), and he most definitely approved of invading Iraq.
 
2020-04-06 10:22:28 PM  

misanthropicsob: It's not the end of the post-September 11 era when we still have politicians both in office and trying to get elected that voted for the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act, which were the biggest bruises we incurred.

The post-9/11 era will end when these vermin have been chased out of Washington.


That's how Trump got elected.
 
2020-04-06 10:38:55 PM  

snowshovel: misanthropicsob: It's not the end of the post-September 11 era when we still have politicians both in office and trying to get elected that voted for the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act, which were the biggest bruises we incurred.

The post-9/11 era will end when these vermin have been chased out of Washington.

That's how Trump got elected.


And it's probably how Trump will get re-elected.
 
2020-04-06 10:43:24 PM  
Turns out when you have tunnel vision it's really hard to see the big picture.
 
2020-04-06 11:04:40 PM  
Somebody wake that dude from Green Day.
 
2020-04-06 11:09:28 PM  
It stopped being 9/12 when opponents to the Iraq invasion were labeled terrorist supporters, and that was long before the invasion itself.
 
2020-04-06 11:09:51 PM  

COMALite J: inglixthemad: No shiat

[Fark user image 850×477]

[Fark user image 500×500]
I believe today we surpassed 9/11 × Benghazi. 9/11 Benghazi, or Benghazi 9/11s.

Bith Set Me Up: I've often said that the 2000s have been the decade that refuses to end.

misanthropicsob: It's not the end of the post-September 11 era when we still have politicians both in office and trying to get elected that voted for the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act, which were the biggest bruises we incurred.

The post-9/11 era will end when these vermin have been chased out of Washington.

Since 2004, every single presidential nominee that approved of invading Iraq lost. And this trend isn't limited to one party, either.

2004: John Kerry (D)
2008: John McCain (R)
2016: Hillary Clinton (D)
Not quite true. While George W. Bush was the incumbent, he was also the GOP nominee in 2004 (just as Obama was for the DNC in 2012 and as [_ image _x_]rump will be for the GOP this year), and he most definitely approved of invading Iraq.


And Shroomwang approved of invading Iraq as well in 2016, no mater how much he tried to walk it back or lie about it, it was already on the record.
 
2020-04-06 11:19:16 PM  
The post 9/11 unity died the moment the Republican cartel decried "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists," and called anyone who dared protest Un-American.
 
2020-04-06 11:25:38 PM  

vudukungfu: LesserEvil: MrBallou: I'd like to see the end of all the bad things that Bush did after 9/11 and go back to being a free country.

Repeal the Patriot Act and all offshoots; reduce DHS back into it's old components' responsibilities; abolish TSA and the whole bloated airport security theater system; get rid of the whole Big Brother Is Watching surveillance system. There's probably more, but it's become so much a part of our lives and it's hard to remember.

Also, stop thinking of ourselves as the entire world's Policeman/Bully, and stop invading the damn Middle East already.

Well, this is a strange thing. The GOP doesn't understand how to use this pandemic to their advantage.... it's killing off their hard core supporters, it's showing many of their borderline supporters what they are really about, and while they could turn their rage toward the Chinese, the Chinese own them, so they'll never take real measures (any more than they did against the Saudis).

People are angry already, but by the end of the summer, they'll be madder than anybody has been in America for a long time. Nobody will be untouched by this pandemic, and the GOP, as it currently stands, is incapable of understanding the personal cost of this tragedy - and have no idea how to deal with the economic cost; which is why they were so resistant to taking appropriate measures to stop the spread of the virus.

Even a best case scenario will pit everybody but their "base" against the republicans. In the worst case? It will be uglier than any of us can imagine.

Will the democrats take advantage of the change to put forward true progressive policies and erase the worst of the mistakes of the 9/11 response? One can hope... but abolishing ICE and reforming Customs and Border controls might not happen in a realpolitik environment where restricting travel restricts infection rates. It might speed up the withdrawal from hostile countries, but isolation serves the conservative, reactionary ideology more than a p ...


Make america great again, erase the bush and the trump era, arrest them all, including their sycophants in the senate and the house and scotus and the medias who allowed all this fascist shiat to happen and send them to the ICC for all the top ones and all the rest, send them to north korea work camps.
 
2020-04-06 11:28:59 PM  
It should have stopped being 9/12 on 9/13.

For anyone it wasn't, you have only yourselves to blame.
 
2020-04-06 11:35:26 PM  

jso2897: The terrorists are inside the house, now.


Being a terrorist is OK if you're a Republican.
 
2020-04-06 11:39:27 PM  
 
2020-04-07 12:21:32 AM  
My apologies to the writer, but it was never September 12th, even the day after 9/11. 

September 12th, like all good creation myths, is a myth. It is a myth built around the suppression of a certain group (Muslims) that lauds the ability of the majority (white Americans) to overcome. It was the best kind of myth, the feel-good story that painted the US as the best kind of melting pot, taking a little bit from everyone to make a many-times-stronger alloy. It was a myth that allowed us to try to process the Grand Canyon of a wound that was sliced into our ignorance of world politics and religious strife.

But ultimately, it was a myth. 

It belies the Hispanics who were targetted because people didn't know the difference between Spanish and Arabic. And the Egyptians who said they were speaking Spanish instead of Arabic. 

It belies the uncle and the brother of a woman in my college journalism class who were brutally beaten and killed in the middle of a street in Los Angeles (the liberal city! the educated city! the sanctuary city! the tolerate any farking thing city!) because they were Muslim. 

It belies the deep tribal divisions that shattered our country and made us easy pickings for divisive social media tactics that the Russians exploited. 

It belies the horrors of war that we have insulated ourselves from because we think children shouldn't see body bags and so inoculate ourselves from the true human costs of war and violence.

It belies the legitimate anger of other cultures towards US colonialism, in effect if not in official name.

And it belies the mass PTSD that we all suffered from having our fantasies shocked into the reality that we are not safer because some invisible shield that surrounds our country. 

This country NEVER was September 12th. We just told ourselves something happy so we could sleep at night.
 
2020-04-07 12:43:09 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: Superjoe: jso2897: The terrorists are inside the house, now.

Being a terrorist is OK if you're a Republican.

Here's something to take note of: From 2006 to 2015, terrorist attacks by Muslim extremists received 357% more press time than those by white, right-wing extremists, even though the white right-wing extremists perpetrated twice as many attacks.


*coughBostonMarathonbomberscough*

If you ever want to see the psychotic level with which the US deals with terrorism, race, and religion, THAT was the pinnacle event.

/spoiler alert: The bombers were literally Caucasian, and white ppl still disowned them
 
2020-04-07 12:48:51 AM  
 
2020-04-07 12:57:26 AM  

Peki: Bith Set Me Up: Superjoe: jso2897: The terrorists are inside the house, now.

Being a terrorist is OK if you're a Republican.

Here's something to take note of: From 2006 to 2015, terrorist attacks by Muslim extremists received 357% more press time than those by white, right-wing extremists, even though the white right-wing extremists perpetrated twice as many attacks.

*coughBostonMarathonbomberscough*

If you ever want to see the psychotic level with which the US deals with terrorism, race, and religion, THAT was the pinnacle event.

/spoiler alert: The bombers were literally Caucasian, and white ppl still disowned them


Or the 2011 Norway bombings. When word first broke of the bombings, Jennifer Rubin was demanding that America crack down hard on Muslims. And even after it was determined that the perp was an anti-Muslim Christian extremist, she still wanted to crack down on Muslims because reasons.

And was she shamed out of public appearances or press publications? No, she's still actively welcomed by CNN and MSNBC as part of "The Resistance", pretending that she was always against the things she wanted Trump to bring to the table.
 
2020-04-07 1:46:12 AM  

AsparagusFTW: I'm going to sound like a dick, but.....

9/11 was the last time I was truly shocked. I was in 9th grade when it happened and I remember teachers wheeling in TV's to watch the news. So it was horrific being 14 watching that.

Decades later now, it has been drilled into our heads. Every Sept 11th we have to stop what we are doing to remember. The constant thinking about it in the news for years, has made me, decensitized in a way. I watch the news and hear of some tragedy now, and it doesn't even phase me.

I lost the ability to be shocked, and now I'm just tired of hearing about it.

/It is a tragedy, not saying it isnt
//I wish I wasnt so decensitized
///But 24hr news cycles of mass death on a daily basis, I just have to shrug and move on at most things now


I think we need to realize something:  everybody moves on.  It's part of life.  We can't hang around and let one horrific day define our lives.  You do that, you don't live.  You exist.   And if that's the first step to basically giving up on life.

The 9/11 Attacks were a black eye to American Exceptionalism:  we finally got attacked big time by someone we couldn't come back at.  Sure, we would try and pin that blame on someone, but in a very real way we lost and we couldn't lie our way out of it.   There would be no Missing in Action/Rambo movies to lie our way back to being a great nation.   The Republican Way of Americana -- to lie until you felt better -- wouldn't work with two massive buildings lying in rubble.  And that's where we failed:  we saw our faux superiority crumble into dirt and instead of getting humble and facing some hard truths, America did what it did to Jimmy Carter:  tried to push back against reality with our bullshiat and hoped it would stick.  Now where are we?  We're paying money into the market to pretend capitalism works.  We're hoping that lying works against viruses instead of realizing our system is too broken to function.  We've got the biggest, most delusional person on the planet running everything, and he's a farking microcosm of what this nation is:  a bad combover, an ill-fitting suit, and a daughterfarker pretending to be a great man and failing at every.  Single.  Opportunity.

America doesn't need to wake up, but it needs to stop lying to itself.  Until we do, everything will get worse.  And pushing away the soothsayers and the people calling rightful bullshiat does not make things go away.  We need to own up to some facts and pretty farking fast.
 
2020-04-07 2:02:50 AM  

RyansPrivates: It is telling that the two most horrific events in my life have happened under GOP presidents.


Horrific events which have occurred in my lifetime (a partial list):

Kennedy assassination (I have a vague memory of his funeral procession)
MLK assassination
Kennedy assassination II
Kent State
Nixon resignation (not itself horrifying, but everything before and after)
Three Mile Island/Bophal/Chernobyl
LA Riots (I lived next to a Circuit City)
The Reagan Revolution
9/11
The Great Recession
The Trump Plague

It's what they call "living a full life."
 
2020-04-07 2:07:00 AM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: AsparagusFTW: I'm going to sound like a dick, but.....

9/11 was the last time I was truly shocked. I was in 9th grade when it happened and I remember teachers wheeling in TV's to watch the news. So it was horrific being 14 watching that.

I'm going to sound like even more of a dick, but...

I wasn't even shocked by 9/11. I was 27 and walked into my job that day with no idea what had been going on. When my boss broke the news I said something to the effect of "Oh great now Cheney has an excuse to blow up Iraq." My boss called me a cynical asshole.

He was right, and never have I felt worse about being totally right.

I lost faith in this country a long time ago, and this current shiatstorm is just reinforcing that.


Pardon me, but why would you ever have had faith in any country?
 
2020-04-07 2:12:16 AM  
TL:DR


"blah blah blah this is my personal life story blah blah blah why 9/11 doesn't matter anymore blah blah blah stop liking what I don't like blah blah blah ME ME ME ME ME..."
 
2020-04-07 2:32:58 AM  

BMulligan: RyansPrivates: It is telling that the two most horrific events in my life have happened under GOP presidents.

Horrific events which have occurred in my lifetime (a partial list):

Kennedy assassination (I have a vague memory of his funeral procession)
MLK assassination
Kennedy assassination II
Kent State
Nixon resignation (not itself horrifying, but everything before and after)
Three Mile Island/Bophal/Chernobyl
LA Riots (I lived next to a Circuit City)
The Reagan Revolution
9/11
The Great Recession
The Trump Plague

It's what they call "living a full life."


Oh my god yes. And a dozen lesser shocks in between.

If 9/11 was the defining moment of your life, either you are very young or very sheltered.

It shouldn't have been that shocking to anyone paying attention for oh, the past eighty years.
 
2020-04-07 3:03:31 AM  

BMulligan: RyansPrivates: It is telling that the two most horrific events in my life have happened under GOP presidents.

Horrific events which have occurred in my lifetime (a partial list):

Kennedy assassination (I have a vague memory of his funeral procession)
MLK assassination
Kennedy assassination II
Kent State
Nixon resignation (not itself horrifying, but everything before and after)
Three Mile Island/Bophal/Chernobyl
LA Riots (I lived next to a Circuit City)
The Reagan Revolution
9/11
The Great Recession
The Trump Plague

It's what they call "living a full life."


We didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning.
 
Displayed 50 of 56 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter




In Other Media
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.