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2020-04-06 4:11:23 PM  
When a place started sheltering made all the difference.  These first two sentences below say it all:

"California and New York had about the same number of coronavirus cases in the first week of March, according to Covid Tracking Project.  By Friday, California had 11,889 cases compared to nearly 10 times that in New York, or 102,985 cases. The Golden State has 264 deaths to New York's 2,935."

"nearly seven million people across a wide swath of Northern California, including Silicon Valley, were ordered to shelter in place effective March 16.  "
"Under the statewide order issued March 19, [all] Californians"
"New York state did not issue a stay-at-home order until March 20. It took effect two days later.

"Southern California is somewhat worse than Northern California but still a far, far cry from New York and New Jersey and Michigan. And what we're beginning to see in Florida."

/all quotes from here
 
2020-04-06 4:43:48 PM  
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800 years without a sniffle!
 
2020-04-06 6:08:00 PM  
I think the real news here is that Foursquare is still around.
 
2020-04-06 6:10:10 PM  
Why would we need to stockpile liquor when we have same day weed delivery?

/yes, it's still up and running
 
2020-04-06 6:10:12 PM  

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800 years without a sniffle!


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Only 800 years?
 
2020-04-06 6:10:13 PM  
i was at the store last weekend and saw an older couple, they had two carts filled to the max with cases of either Coors light or Michelob Light.  I'd say they had, pffffft, 12 cases easy.

granted, I bought a case of 805 but that was about 2 weeks ago and I've had like, 3 of them.
 
2020-04-06 6:14:15 PM  
True story. Had a Zoom happy hour last Friday, and all of my Bay Area colleagues looked to be borderline Shining.

No naked drop-ins, though.
 
2020-04-06 6:14:44 PM  
Drive-thru weed and safe places.

/Snowflakes will survive.
 
2020-04-06 6:29:00 PM  

rickythepenguin: i was at the store last weekend and saw an older couple, they had two carts filled to the max with cases of either Coors light or Michelob Light.  I'd say they had, pffffft, 12 cases easy.


Could you even get a buzz of that, though?
 
2020-04-06 6:29:39 PM  
Been living in SF since 2013. Lower Nob Hill-ish, Polk Gulch area. It ain't a ghost town, but there are significantly fewer people out and about ever since shelter-in-place was ordered. It's almost like people trust the word of thousands of medical professionals.
 
2020-04-06 6:39:07 PM  
The city of Sunnyvale somehow saw fit to not allow any commercial marijuana activity, including delivery. My regular places are all "pick-up for medical only, recreational folks just get delivery!"

So... Meh. I could pony up for a med card, but it's the principle of the thing.

I'm sure I'll figure something out. I'm good for another week here at least, if I'm not too much of a fiend.
 
2020-04-06 6:39:15 PM  
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/ Southpark is a documentary.
 
2020-04-06 6:43:52 PM  
when you live in a tent, not much is expected.
 
2020-04-06 6:47:46 PM  
Why the hell are any of the bars and casual dining numbers not at zero??
 
2020-04-06 6:50:15 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Could you even get a buzz of that, though?


ha, boom headshot!

what's that joke about "falling out of a boat and hitting water", re shiatty beer?
 
2020-04-06 6:54:07 PM  
....and shopping malls...down to 50% pre-shelter-in-place levels.  really?  so 50% of people are still hanging out in frickin' shopping malls??!   What is wrong with you people?  Essential errands ONLY.    Go out for groceries, Go get your medication, then go right back home.  Don't stop off at the mall.  Don't pop in for some casual dining.  Where are you people in the Bay Area or LA even finding an open bar?
 
2020-04-06 7:01:18 PM  

dbaggins: ....and shopping malls...down to 50% pre-shelter-in-place levels.  really?  so 50% of people are still hanging out in frickin' shopping malls??!   What is wrong with you people?  Essential errands ONLY.    Go out for groceries, Go get your medication, then go right back home.  Don't stop off at the mall.  Don't pop in for some casual dining.  Where are you people in the Bay Area or LA even finding an open bar?


I'm guessing that the categories are broader than you may be picturing. If I had to make a couple of guesses:

"Mall" traffic is to pick up takeout food from restaurants.
"Bar" traffic is to pick up to-go drinks.
 
2020-04-06 7:22:34 PM  
As a former resident of SF I can tell you the techies aren't noticing much change at all other than not needing to commute and having to pay for their own catered lunches
 
2020-04-06 7:33:19 PM  

BigNumber12: "Bar" traffic is to pick up to-go drinks.


This one I'm not believing.  Who goes to pick up or get a cocktail mixed and delivered?   In LA or the Bay Area that is $12 plus tip.  Are "mixologists" in bars really crafting fancy cocktails and shipping them out to take-out customers?  Or are people ordering JD&coke and getting a tumblers worth for $10?      Are bartenders really coming in to work during the shelter-in-place to serve up drinks to-go?
 
2020-04-06 7:43:48 PM  

dbaggins: BigNumber12: "Bar" traffic is to pick up to-go drinks.

This one I'm not believing.  Who goes to pick up or get a cocktail mixed and delivered?   In LA or the Bay Area that is $12 plus tip.  Are "mixologists" in bars really crafting fancy cocktails and shipping them out to take-out customers?  Or are people ordering JD&coke and getting a tumblers worth for $10?      Are bartenders really coming in to work during the shelter-in-place to serve up drinks to-go?


My quick guess is that this scale includes bars that are attached to restaurants.  Restaurants near me that sell booze and are open for take-out only business are also selling booze to go.  Just a guess, but I would imagine that's from where much of the bar statistics come.  Plus, if you're already stopping at that place for your food, it saves you a second trip (and second risk of infection) to just get your drinks from the same place.  Dunno.
 
2020-04-06 7:44:57 PM  

dbaggins: BigNumber12: "Bar" traffic is to pick up to-go drinks.

This one I'm not believing.  Who goes to pick up or get a cocktail mixed and delivered?   In LA or the Bay Area that is $12 plus tip.  Are "mixologists" in bars really crafting fancy cocktails and shipping them out to take-out customers?  Or are people ordering JD&coke and getting a tumblers worth for $10?      Are bartenders really coming in to work during the shelter-in-place to serve up drinks to-go?


Again, I think it's a broader category than you might be suspecting. If it includes breweries and taprooms, then yeah, I've been seeing them doing a brisk trade (admittedly here in CO). Got takeout from a restaurant last night, and they were pouring / sealing large number of single-drink margaritas that people were picking up. I got two growler fills from another spot, that wasn't a brewery.
 
2020-04-06 7:47:23 PM  

rickythepenguin: Thong_of_Zardoz: Could you even get a buzz of that, though?

ha, boom headshot!

what's that joke about "falling out of a boat and hitting water", re shiatty beer?


Sh*tty beer is like having sex in a canoe,

F*cking close to water
 
2020-04-06 7:53:25 PM  
Pretty easy to Shelter in Place when you have so many jobs that can easily be done remote and you already are wealthy.
 
2020-04-06 8:09:28 PM  

rcain: As a former resident of SF I can tell you the techies aren't noticing much change at all other than not needing to commute and having to pay for their own catered lunches


In my case, my employer is considered an essential service, but about 80% of my work can be done remotely.  I currently go into the office an average of one day per week, and when I do, my commute is now about 40% faster than usual.

My company doesn't cater lunches, but many of the nearby restaurants are still open for takeout (and they greatly appreciate the business).
 
2020-04-06 8:09:47 PM  

BigNumber12: Again, I think it's a broader category than you might be suspecting.



Even with all the classification errors, this is still WAY too much activity for a community that is supposed to be Shelter-In-Place and only essential travel.

When the Chinese medical team showed up in Italy their TV message was pretty clear "You are all running around WAY too much and it is going to go very bad for you"


These charts are not encouraging at all.   A generous interpretation is between 50% and 70% reduction in activity.  That is awful.

I can see how terrible it is in my own suburb in the Bay Area.  My neighbors are all in their cars every other day to go do something.  Gardners and house cleaners still showing up at their homes. Contractors haven't slowed down at all it seems.    I am taking care of some extreme danger zone individuals sheltering-in-place in my home.  I am fairly certain the COVID-19 is somewhere in my court by now watching how careless everyone is.
 
2020-04-06 8:10:54 PM  

dbaggins: BigNumber12: "Bar" traffic is to pick up to-go drinks.

This one I'm not believing.  Who goes to pick up or get a cocktail mixed and delivered?   In LA or the Bay Area that is $12 plus tip.  Are "mixologists" in bars really crafting fancy cocktails and shipping them out to take-out customers?  Or are people ordering JD&coke and getting a tumblers worth for $10?      Are bartenders really coming in to work during the shelter-in-place to serve up drinks to-go?


Many states, including Cal, are waving rules about delivery of alcohol to support businesses that would otherwise be closed. The customers are buying the expensive drinks and giving large tips because they want those bars to be open after the shut down. You don't have to watch Cheers to know that the typical crowds at bars are much like family. Bars keep the lights on, customers help keep the lights on.
 
2020-04-06 8:11:52 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Pretty easy to Shelter in Place when you have so many jobs that can easily be done remote and you already are wealthy.


Not sure about the wealthy part, but yeah, I'm happy to have a job at a slightly reduced pay that allows me to keep working through this pandemic shiat. I think the zero commute and all the home-cooked lunches may offset the pay cut, but it's too soon to tell.
 
2020-04-06 8:19:47 PM  

BigNumber12: dbaggins: BigNumber12: "Bar" traffic is to pick up to-go drinks.

This one I'm not believing.  Who goes to pick up or get a cocktail mixed and delivered?   In LA or the Bay Area that is $12 plus tip.  Are "mixologists" in bars really crafting fancy cocktails and shipping them out to take-out customers?  Or are people ordering JD&coke and getting a tumblers worth for $10?      Are bartenders really coming in to work during the shelter-in-place to serve up drinks to-go?

Again, I think it's a broader category than you might be suspecting. If it includes breweries and taprooms, then yeah, I've been seeing them doing a brisk trade (admittedly here in CO). Got takeout from a restaurant last night, and they were pouring / sealing large number of single-drink margaritas that people were picking up. I got two growler fills from another spot, that wasn't a brewery.


Agreed.  A couple places here are a fav just for their tap list.  One sent out an email to all its followers asking if we'd buy take-out from them.  It's only a few blocks away, so as long as we can get a the occasional beer not-from-Ralph's and/or maybe even a growler fill-up, I'd be happy to order some mid-range grilled cheese from them to go with it.  Or maybe even just pick up the beer and cook for ourselves.  I want to see them survive this and, let's be honest, I'd also like some good beer.

The mayor here in LA has made some smart decisions lately.  Almost immediately allowing take-away alcohol sales after the stay home order took effect was one of them.
 
2020-04-06 8:23:55 PM  

dbaggins: BigNumber12: Again, I think it's a broader category than you might be suspecting.


Even with all the classification errors, this is still WAY too much activity for a community that is supposed to be Shelter-In-Place and only essential travel.

When the Chinese medical team showed up in Italy their TV message was pretty clear "You are all running around WAY too much and it is going to go very bad for you"


These charts are not encouraging at all.   A generous interpretation is between 50% and 70% reduction in activity.  That is awful.

I can see how terrible it is in my own suburb in the Bay Area.  My neighbors are all in their cars every other day to go do something.  Gardners and house cleaners still showing up at their homes. Contractors haven't slowed down at all it seems.    I am taking care of some extreme danger zone individuals sheltering-in-place in my home.  I am fairly certain the COVID-19 is somewhere in my court by now watching how careless everyone is.


What's more important is the social distancing. Many "activities" can be done safely by staying 6" away from others and washing hands.

I really do not want the door to my house welded shut. It's not necessary.
 
2020-04-06 8:34:04 PM  
The view from my place. Lots of lollygaggers lately. Don't mind 'em. I'm a massage therapist at a gym and I doubt I'll ever get back to work. We'll see how it all plays out.
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2020-04-06 9:47:42 PM  
The funniest thing for me is that even when every other pasta is gone, there's still a ton of gay bashing Barilla for sale.
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2020-04-06 9:54:08 PM  

lysdexic: The funniest thing for me is that even when every other pasta is gone, there's still a ton of gay bashing Barilla for sale.[Fark user image 425x318]


I thought they did an about-face, and apologized for their earlier comments?

Yeah - https://money.cnn.com/2014/11/19/ne​ws/​companies/barilla-lgbt/index.html
 
2020-04-06 9:59:20 PM  

lysdexic: The funniest thing for me is that even when every other pasta is gone, there's still a ton of gay bashing Barilla for sale.[Fark user image 425x318]


Yeah, most locals still have a stick up their ass about that.
 
2020-04-07 12:17:13 AM  
What about those of us who live in California and have stockpiled alcohol?
 
2020-04-07 2:17:34 PM  

anfrind: My company doesn't cater lunches, but many of the nearby restaurants are still open for takeout (and they greatly appreciate the business).


Damn right, I typically cook for myself, but I've made a point to order delivery off Uber Eats at least twice a week since they ordered shelter in place in order to support the restaurants where I am presently located. It's not enough though, I've seen several places I used to get food from just give up because the take out traffic and delivery wasn't enough to warrant the effort
 
2020-04-07 5:36:33 PM  

ubernostrum: What about those of us who live in California and have stockpiled alcohol?


buy weed?
 
2020-04-07 7:22:51 PM  

rcain: anfrind: My company doesn't cater lunches, but many of the nearby restaurants are still open for takeout (and they greatly appreciate the business).

Damn right, I typically cook for myself, but I've made a point to order delivery off Uber Eats at least twice a week since they ordered shelter in place in order to support the restaurants where I am presently located. It's not enough though, I've seen several places I used to get food from just give up because the take out traffic and delivery wasn't enough to warrant the effort


One thing I noticed is that if you call the restaurant or go directly to their website, you can sometimes order takeout for significantly cheaper than via the big apps, as those companies often charge very high merchant fees to the restaurants.  I ordered a takeout lunch from a local Italian restaurant today, and by going directly to their website, I paid about 30% less than I would have if I'd ordered through Grubhub.  I'm pretty sure the cost to the restaurant was also lower.
 
2020-04-07 7:45:06 PM  

anfrind: rcain: anfrind: My company doesn't cater lunches, but many of the nearby restaurants are still open for takeout (and they greatly appreciate the business).

Damn right, I typically cook for myself, but I've made a point to order delivery off Uber Eats at least twice a week since they ordered shelter in place in order to support the restaurants where I am presently located. It's not enough though, I've seen several places I used to get food from just give up because the take out traffic and delivery wasn't enough to warrant the effort

One thing I noticed is that if you call the restaurant or go directly to their website, you can sometimes order takeout for significantly cheaper than via the big apps, as those companies often charge very high merchant fees to the restaurants.  I ordered a takeout lunch from a local Italian restaurant today, and by going directly to their website, I paid about 30% less than I would have if I'd ordered through Grubhub.  I'm pretty sure the cost to the restaurant was also lower.


Both the restaurants near me I would do take out from in person on foot while taking my dog out for a walk have both given up. And for me it's the convenience and time.

Uber Eats bring me good food from places that are a fair trot off, and I order mainly as a time saver, not having to drive a ways in both directions for a food pickup. Plus, a lot of the places I order from aren't pizzerias or other places that commonly offer delivery such as soul food, poke, indian, and seafood places

And as an aside, I am loyal to Uber Eats because when I am in Mexico (which is where I was supposed to be headed before the outbreak), I could order a nice lunch with cerveza for $110 - $150 all in including tip and fees
 
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