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2020-04-01 3:20:39 AM  
Well they did try to cover it up back in December when the original doctor who went public with it got arrested for "disrupting public order".

That doctor ended up dying from it.
 
2020-04-01 6:30:20 AM  
hindsight 20-20

who would persecute someone for warning anyone about this?

clearly China had no farking idea what was in store, and neither did anyone else anywhere else, or there would be more ventilators and PPE stockpiled in every quadrant
 
2020-04-01 6:41:15 AM  
That article did a fine job of stringing a story together with fragments of info spread out over time. It's hard to refute much of what was cited, but it is really disingenuous to drop so much context to make your own. And maybe I missed any evidence offered about the 40x scale of coverup.

The collie shangles of: 'oh, Chaos Goblin wasn't perfect, but he properly blamed the Chinese' is a nice touch of whitewash.
 
2020-04-01 6:41:42 AM  
We have to blame China for downplaying it in order to cover up our own incompetence at acting sooner and more decisively.
 
2020-04-01 6:41:47 AM  
It's Duck Soup, no more Beeswax with China until they get rid of wet markets. Or will offer China that we stop eating pork rinds if they get stop eating bats.
 
2020-04-01 6:45:15 AM  
At least Slashdot seems to have realized that all the tonto de abril tomfoolery isn't so funny this time around.
 
2020-04-01 6:48:02 AM  
Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?
 
2020-04-01 6:48:48 AM  
Can't prove anything, they burned all the evidence.
 
2020-04-01 6:50:57 AM  

American Decency Association: hindsight 20-20

who would persecute someone for warning anyone about this?

clearly China had no farking idea what was in store, and neither did anyone else anywhere else, or there would be more ventilators and PPE stockpiled in every quadrant


China's government knew that there was an exploding epidemic with human to human transmission in mid December, yet by mid January was still publically expressing doubt that the virus could spread human to human. And there are multiple instances of them suppressing attempts by doctors and scientists to get warnings and helpful information out.  In addition to the 8 doctors who were sanctioned in December/early January, journalists who were punished, the scientists who released the COVID 19 gene sequence were also punished by having their lab shut down.

What else do you need to know to see who is to blame for this slow response?  Perhaps a pandemic was inevitable, but the Chinese government wasted weeks by drawing the long bow and concealing vital information.  As much as 6 weeks.  That could add up to tens to hundreds of thousands of needless deaths worldwide.

The communist propaganda machine is ill-suited to dealing with a public need for dissemination of truth.
 
2020-04-01 6:50:57 AM  
They covered up the cover-up already?

Or is this the cover-up of the failed attempt to cover-up the cover-up?

/Gonna need to go to the hyphen store soon.
//dashes aren't the same. They're a half pixel shorter.
 
2020-04-01 6:51:14 AM  

Bowen: Can't prove anything, they burned all the evidence.


We can prove that they told the WHO is wasn't communicable when they Nerts well knew it was...
 
2020-04-01 6:53:41 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: We have to blame China for downplaying it in order to cover up our own incompetence at acting sooner and more decisively.


Why not both?
 
2020-04-01 6:54:29 AM  

Lurky McLurkerton: Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?


4/1

Fark is also doing unfunny autoreplace.
 
2020-04-01 6:54:37 AM  

MaelstromFL: Bowen: Can't prove anything, they burned all the evidence.

We can prove that they told the WHO is wasn't communicable when they Nerts well knew it was...


How auto correction made Nerts into Nerts is a question that will never be answered...
 
2020-04-01 6:55:08 AM  

Ishkur: Well they did try to cover it up back in December when the original doctor who went public with it got arrested for "disrupting public order".

That doctor ended up dying from it.


China does what China does. We trusted them over our own representative on site. Blaming them for being insular is misguided. I seem to recall we had a Bee's knees Meathookle on this - except for the part where we let 10 weeks or so go by without doing anything. We can't control the information coming from others which is why we have envoys in the first place - CONSTANT VIGILANCE.
 
2020-04-01 6:55:45 AM  

Lurky McLurkerton: Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?


It's April 1st. Also, if you see someone spouting pure gibberish it might be caused by special April 1st fark Wombats.

/might not either.
 
2020-04-01 6:56:16 AM  
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2020-04-01 6:56:38 AM  

MaelstromFL: MaelstromFL: Bowen: Can't prove anything, they burned all the evidence.

We can prove that they told the WHO is wasn't communicable when they Nerts well knew it was...

How auto correction made Nerts into Nerts is a question that will never be answered...


D-A-M-N They got me! Nerts!
 
2020-04-01 6:57:54 AM  

Animatronik: brainlordmesomorph: We have to blame China for downplaying it in order to cover up our own incompetence at acting sooner and more decisively.

Why not both?


Sure, but given our failure we have to blame somebody.

We have the CIA, we should have known (and acted) whether or not China was admitting it.
 
2020-04-01 6:57:57 AM  

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2020-04-01 6:59:38 AM  
China absolutely knew what was going on because the bought up literally tons of protective gear and medical supplies throughout the Pacific Rim using their state-run companies.  The Aussies were particularly upset because when COVID got to them, they had already sent everything to China.

The real problem is: China is STILL drawing the long bow about their numbers which makes it extremely difficult to determine what will happen elsewhere.  We simply don't have good data from the place where the first breakout occurred.
 
2020-04-01 7:01:06 AM  

Animatronik: American Decency Association: hindsight 20-20

who would persecute someone for warning anyone about this?

clearly China had no farking idea what was in store, and neither did anyone else anywhere else, or there would be more ventilators and PPE stockpiled in every quadrant

China's government knew that there was an exploding epidemic with human to human transmission in mid December, yet by mid January was still publically expressing doubt that the virus could spread human to human. And there are multiple instances of them suppressing attempts by doctors and scientists to get warnings and helpful information out.  In addition to the 8 doctors who were sanctioned in December/early January, journalists who were punished, the scientists who released the COVID 19 gene sequence were also punished by having their lab shut down.

What else do you need to know to see who is to blame for this slow response?  Perhaps a pandemic was inevitable, but the Chinese government wasted weeks by drawing the long bow and concealing vital information.  As much as 6 weeks.  That could add up to tens to hundreds of thousands of needless deaths worldwide.

The communist propaganda machine is ill-suited to dealing with a public need for dissemination of truth.


Now swap a few dates, swap Republican Big Cheeses for the CCP, and add in Chaos Goblin trying to gut the CDC three years running, then drawing the long bow about shiat when it hit the fan.

/plenty of guilt to go around
 
2020-04-01 7:02:37 AM  
This filter is entertaining :)
 
2020-04-01 7:05:32 AM  

PunGent: This filter is entertaining :)


Nerts you!  Nerts you to Hell!
 
2020-04-01 7:06:28 AM  

PunGent: This filter is entertaining :)


No it isn't
 
2020-04-01 7:07:44 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: Lurky McLurkerton: Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?

4/1

Fark is also doing unfunny autoreplace.


As is tradition.
 
2020-04-01 7:09:37 AM  

NotMyAlt: That article did a fine job of stringing a story together with fragments of info spread out over time. It's hard to refute much of what was cited, but it is really disingenuous to drop so much context to make your own. And maybe I missed any evidence offered about the 40x scale of coverup.

The collie shangles of: 'oh, Chaos Goblin wasn't perfect, but he properly blamed the Chinese' is a nice touch of whitewash.


There's this internet thingee called "Google" where you can search for information. By using it you can find that multiple news outlets have been reporting the 40x figure.
 
2020-04-01 7:10:54 AM  

Lurky McLurkerton: Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?


China is blaming them for the coronavirus?
 
2020-04-01 7:11:57 AM  

Animatronik: China's government knew that there was an exploding epidemic with human to human transmission in mid December, yet by mid January was still publically expressing doubt that the virus could spread human to human. And there are multiple instances of them suppressing attempts by doctors and scientists to get warnings and helpful information out.  In addition to the 8 doctors who were sanctioned in December/early January, journalists who were punished, the scientists who released the COVID 19 gene sequence were also punished by having their lab shut down.

What else do you need to know to see who is to blame for this slow respo


Let me say it really slowly.  they didnt know what they were dealing with.  i dont even want to speculate on why they did what they did.  sounds insanely paranoid.. like something a lonely dictator would do let alone a committee sitting in a position of comfortable power.

Anyway, this may interest you.  morons on the right, to this fark i ng day still think it isnt happening or is a conspiracy or somehow overblown, and i reckon the guys in charge in China were thinking the same thing, so you actually have that in common with them, which is nice.

Have you seen China's latest efforts?  They are no longer farking around and are creating a template on what to do when the shiat gets real.

Guess what, your idiot leader, with everything that we have seen can now see, and with a smidge of grey matter, can foresee, is still moping about sitting on his Meathooks waiting for someone else to do something.
 
2020-04-01 7:15:14 AM  

lycanth: Lurky McLurkerton: Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?

China is blaming them for the coronavirus?


Please stop eating guinea pigs.
 
2020-04-01 7:16:16 AM  

American Decency Association: Animatronik: China's government knew that there was an exploding epidemic with human to human transmission in mid December, yet by mid January was still publically expressing doubt that the virus could spread human to human. And there are multiple instances of them suppressing attempts by doctors and scientists to get warnings and helpful information out.  In addition to the 8 doctors who were sanctioned in December/early January, journalists who were punished, the scientists who released the COVID 19 gene sequence were also punished by having their lab shut down.

What else do you need to know to see who is to blame for this slow respo

Let me say it really slowly.  they didnt know what they were dealing with.  i dont even want to speculate on why they did what they did.  sounds insanely paranoid.. like something a lonely dictator would do let alone a committee sitting in a position of comfortable power.

Anyway, this may interest you.  morons on the right, to this fark i ng day still think it isnt happening or is a conspiracy or somehow overblown, and i reckon the guys in charge in China were thinking the same thing, so you actually have that in common with them, which is nice.

Have you seen China's latest efforts?  They are no longer farking around and are creating a template on what to do when the shiat gets real.

Guess what, your idiot leader, with everything that we have seen can now see, and with a smidge of grey matter, can foresee, is still moping about sitting on his Meathooks waiting for someone else to do something.


The number of morons on the right, to this fark i ng day still think it isnt happening or is a conspiracy or somehow overblown, is highly exaggerated.
 
2020-04-01 7:17:43 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: We have to blame China for downplaying it in order to cover up our own incompetence at acting sooner and more decisively.


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2020-04-01 7:18:16 AM  
Western countries have their populations on lockdown, their economies frozen or in freefall, and the country where the virus most likely originated is suspected to have lied, covered up and spread misinformation about its role.

There, FTFY.
 
2020-04-01 7:20:02 AM  

American Decency Association: Let me say it really slowly.  they didnt know what they were dealing with.


Bullshiat. China knew in December that they were dealing with a SARS-like outbreak. The virus is now called SARS-CoV-2 ... because it's a SARS-like virus.  They knew what they were dealing with, they knew it was spreading from person to person directly, they knew what could happen in an epidemic or pandemic.  They knew, and their reaction was to punish the doctors who were sounding the alarm.

Why are you carrying water for them?
 
2020-04-01 7:21:40 AM  
If you are whining about the filter, you are exactly who it's aimed at.

Whatever you have to say can't possibly be that important.

/Lighten up Francis.
 
2020-04-01 7:21:57 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: Lurky McLurkerton: Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?

4/1

Fark is also doing unfunny autoreplace.


Aw, come on!

Chairman Winnie The Pooh Jinping
Pre-eWinnie The Poohsting conditions
The plural of galaxy is galaWinnie The Poohes
 
2020-04-01 7:22:02 AM  

AquaTatanka: PunGent: This filter is entertaining :)

No it isn't


Oh, yes it is!
 
2020-04-01 7:32:53 AM  
This is China's Chernobyl. I just hope it brings them down like it did the USSR.
 
2020-04-01 7:37:17 AM  

Dork Gently: American Decency Association: Let me say it really slowly.  they didnt know what they were dealing with.

Bullshiat. China knew in December that they were dealing with a SARS-like outbreak. The virus is now called SARS-CoV-2 ... because it's a SARS-like virus.  They knew what they were dealing with, they knew it was spreading from person to person directly, they knew what could happen in an epidemic or pandemic.  They knew, and their reaction was to punish the doctors who were sounding the alarm.

Why are you carrying water for them?


sweet, sounds like a genius plan!  this will surely work!  silence the doctor, and hope nobody notices millions of people dying.

back to reality... the only reason for downplaying the situation is because you are stupid and dont understand what is about to hit you.  china is/was stupid, to put it mildly.

but, china's current actions speak volumes highlighting the disconnect between persecuting the dead whistleblower to their current drive to contain the virus. (although im not entirely convinced everything is as fantastic as they would like you to believe)

Chaos Goblin is still the same farkwit lump of turd... an inanimate file of dogshiat
 
2020-04-01 7:42:10 AM  
FTFAAnd according to reports this weekend, the British government has been told the Chinese may have lied about the extent of their own outbreak by a factor of 40.

Any source on this? Article is typical British rag heavy on summary and innuendo and light on facts.
 
2020-04-01 7:42:34 AM  
American Decency Association:

You're still sucking off China, why? They deliberately are drawing the long bow about important information related to the crisis. It's not helpful and when you're the epicenter it is incredibly unhelpful to lie to everyone's face at every possibility
 
2020-04-01 7:46:35 AM  

Lurky McLurkerton: Wtf is up with the guinea pigs? What did I miss?


The date.
 
2020-04-01 7:51:02 AM  

American Decency Association: hindsight 20-20

who would persecute someone for warning anyone about this?

clearly China had no farking idea what was in store, and neither did anyone else anywhere else, or there would be more ventilators and PPE stockpiled in every quadrant


And the wet markets are open again.
 
2020-04-01 7:51:43 AM  

soopey: FTFA: And according to reports this weekend, the British government has been told the Chinese may have lied about the extent of their own outbreak by a factor of 40.

Any source on this? Article is typical British rag heavy on summary and innuendo and light on facts.


Other recent articles give a 15-40x range, from Howard Johnson, which he attributed to his science advisors.  I have seen no substantive explanation for why they say 15x to 40x rather than 10x to 100x or any other range.
 
2020-04-01 7:52:20 AM  

bobadooey: American Decency Association:

You're still sucking off China, why? They deliberately are drawing the long bow about important information related to the crisis. It's not helpful and when you're the epicenter it is incredibly unhelpful to lie to everyone's face at every possibility


no, i think china are the same brand of idiot that seems to be common everywher at the moment.

i push back, to draw attention away from the 'china diversion'

i think, as an australian, there is a lot of anti-china indoctrination i have avoided.  seems that even the most intelligent of you (US folk) are susceptible to exaggerating your fear of the chinese boogeyman
 
2020-04-01 7:53:00 AM  

bobadooey: You're still sucking off China, why? They deliberately are drawing the long bow about important information related to the crisis. It's not helpful and when you're the epicenter it is incredibly unhelpful to lie to everyone's face at every possibility


They get a pass because they already have Socialism there.
 
2020-04-01 7:53:56 AM  

Dork Gently: soopey: FTFA: And according to reports this weekend, the British government has been told the Chinese may have lied about the extent of their own outbreak by a factor of 40.

Any source on this? Article is typical British rag heavy on summary and innuendo and light on facts.

Other recent articles give a 15-40x range, from Howard Johnson, which he attributed to his science advisors.  I have seen no substantive explanation for why they say 15x to 40x rather than 10x to 100x or any other range.


I am pretty sure I typed BoJo's name there....
 
2020-04-01 7:55:07 AM  
It is very convenient to direct the anger at the inability of your own health system to cope due to being not prepared to someone else.

Too bad there are the examples of those who somehow managed to.
 
2020-04-01 7:57:34 AM  
Well, at least this thread will be good for finding out which accounts are on the Chinese payroll.

/Sina delenda est.
 
2020-04-01 8:06:46 AM  

MaelstromFL: MaelstromFL: MaelstromFL: Bowen: Can't prove anything, they burned all the evidence.

We can prove that they told the WHO is wasn't communicable when they Nerts well knew it was...

How auto correction made Nerts into Nerts is a question that will never be answered...

D-A-M-N They got me! Nerts!


If the Nerts can alter your Fark posts, they can alter anything.
 
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