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2020-03-31 8:58:55 AM  
9/11 was a localized event.  The coronavirus is a wide geographical event, aka the world.  So yes, it would seem to reason that a virus would kill more people.
 
2020-03-31 9:01:16 AM  
Covid-19 isn't finished, it's going to kill an entire 9/11 attack worth of Americans, every day, very soon.
 
2020-03-31 9:04:23 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Covid-19 isn't finished, it's going to kill an entire 9/11 attack worth of Americans, every day, very soon.


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But Trumpy says if we get out of this with less than 200,000 dead, he's done a great job!
 
2020-03-31 9:09:05 AM  
And more Americans were killed last year by overdose than were killed in the Vietnam War.
 
2020-03-31 9:09:47 AM  
Have we hit the Benghazi death toll yet? Because that's when the investigations really begin.
 
2020-03-31 9:10:32 AM  

dothemath: And more Americans were killed last year by overdose than were killed in the Vietnam War.


When this is over, there's a very good chance we may be on par with the Civil War death count
 
2020-03-31 9:11:01 AM  
Yes, but Coronavirus hasn't killed more civilians than America's combined military efforts since Vietnam.

So you have that going for you.
 
2020-03-31 9:11:06 AM  
How many killed by the regular flu?   Seems like zero.
 
2020-03-31 9:11:22 AM  
So who y'all gonna invade this time?
 
2020-03-31 9:12:35 AM  
So I guess 9/11 wasn't that bad after all!  Thanks for the perspective.
 
2020-03-31 9:13:16 AM  

PerpetualPeristalsis: So who y'all gonna invade this time?


There's no point in invading a radioactive wasteland.
 
2020-03-31 9:13:40 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Purple_Urkle: Covid-19 isn't finished, it's going to kill an entire 9/11 attack worth of Americans, every day, very soon.

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But Trumpy says if we get out of this with less than 200,000 dead, he's done a great job!


10 out of 10!
 
2020-03-31 9:14:56 AM  

Merltech: 9/11 was a localized event.  The coronavirus is a wide geographical event, aka the world.  So yes, it would seem to reason that a virus would kill more people.


Except that the largest number of people who have died from it in the US, more than a third of the total, were in NYC.
 
2020-03-31 9:14:59 AM  
Does this mean we have to go to war against some unsuspecting country?
 
2020-03-31 9:15:10 AM  
John Ashcroft Let The Eagle Soar backwards (Oh Sweet Evil)
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2020-03-31 9:15:25 AM  

dothemath: And more Americans were killed last year by overdose than were killed in the Vietnam War.


Yeah but that was profitable
 
2020-03-31 9:16:14 AM  
You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet
Youtube w3fRBzRngdc
 
2020-03-31 9:16:25 AM  
Thank goodness it's "all under control."
 
2020-03-31 9:18:12 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Purple_Urkle: Covid-19 isn't finished, it's going to kill an entire 9/11 attack worth of Americans, every day, very soon.

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But Trumpy says if we get out of this with less than 200,000 dead, he's done a great job!


DRINK!
 
2020-03-31 9:18:25 AM  
On the bright side I have not heard anything about going to war in Iran in a while. So we've got that going for us which is nice.
 
2020-03-31 9:19:03 AM  

waxbeans: dothemath: And more Americans were killed last year by overdose than were killed in the Vietnam War.

Yeah but that was profitable


And a meaningless comparison.  The population of the US back in 1970 was 205.1 million people.   Today it's 331 million people.   This is why you use rates instead of raw numbers.
 
2020-03-31 9:20:32 AM  
Now do AIDS or traffic deaths.


/ meaningless stat is meaningless
 
2020-03-31 9:20:35 AM  
and that means nothing .
 
2020-03-31 9:21:04 AM  
9/11 happened and we lost our goddamn minds.  After this, I'm pretty certain we'll learn nothing and not change anything that's being exposed as a big problem.  Sick leave, part-time and gig-workers getting the shaft in all this, Medicare for All, income inequality, food security, abusive landlords, child care, public transportation- both as a vector of disease transmission and as essential infrastructure, and that doesn't even get into the health care system issues.  No pandemic plan, no pandemic response, lack of transparency and/or outright lies by officials about what's going on, lack of domestic production capacity for critical pandemic response goods (medicines, PPE... and even though we make vents, the ramp-up response was bungled), red tape in the face of a war effort, what the hell happened with the testing, helicopters of cash going to the wrong things (where's the $100B to develop a vaccine??????)  and on and on.
 
2020-03-31 9:22:41 AM  
We have pretty much near zero tolerance for some kinds of deaths, maximum don't care for others. Film at 11.
 
2020-03-31 9:23:07 AM  

Romans 7 19: Does this mean we have to go to war against some unsuspecting country?


Well, we've got to blame it on somebody else.
 
2020-03-31 9:23:21 AM  
Great, now I'll have to be at the airport 2 weeks early to catch my flight.

And I'm sure the scanners will now test my temperature in addition to giving me cancer.
 
2020-03-31 9:23:40 AM  
Quickly. Which unaffiliated country should be invaded in retaliation.

You've lost the last few. I think you need somewhere small and defenseless. Is Grenada still available?
 
2020-03-31 9:24:01 AM  
and now for a meaningful stat:   so far this year, 20 million more people were born than have died.

Death ray?   Fiddlesticks!   It doesn't even slow them down.
 
2020-03-31 9:25:36 AM  

tirob: Thank goodness it's "all under control."


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2020-03-31 9:25:40 AM  

Gubbo: Quickly. Which unaffiliated country should be invaded in retaliation.

You've lost the last few. I think you need somewhere small and defenseless. Is Grenada still available?


Duchy of Grand Fenwick.
 
2020-03-31 9:28:26 AM  
Maintaining all those military bases, too. Keeping the world safe from itself and racheting escalation where need be. Good Housekeeping, not meddling, or lying. FaceBook and Google extracting the statistics of populations across developed and developing economies-- how much they spend a month, how much they save. The seasonal cycles of gift-giving, little things like that, to make all the difference on commodity exchanges.

It's a favor, really. Zuckerberg and those guys, whoever they are. It is a LOT of information and, frankly, not cheap to store, and has VALUE, dammit!

Because without Silcon valley, how is the world to know how repressed they are and what they're missing in terms of Freedom of Expression? Becoming an influencer is a new industry and denying it to people is another form of slavery. Disruption shouldn't just be for America. We're generous like that.
 
2020-03-31 9:29:19 AM  
Ditsy Babes gonna dits.
 
2020-03-31 9:29:56 AM  

AloysiusSnuffleupagus: 9/11 happened and we lost our goddamn minds.  After this, I'm pretty certain we'll learn nothing and not change anything that's being exposed as a big problem.  Sick leave, part-time and gig-workers getting the shaft in all this, Medicare for All, income inequality, food security, abusive landlords, child care, public transportation- both as a vector of disease transmission and as essential infrastructure, and that doesn't even get into the health care system issues.  No pandemic plan, no pandemic response, lack of transparency and/or outright lies by officials about what's going on, lack of domestic production capacity for critical pandemic response goods (medicines, PPE... and even though we make vents, the ramp-up response was bungled), red tape in the face of a war effort, what the hell happened with the testing, helicopters of cash going to the wrong things (where's the $100B to develop a vaccine??????)  and on and on.


Some countries will make changes after this.  In the US, given the paralyzed political system, odds are that the pandemic gets spunk off as a fluke event after the fact and much returns to pre-pandemic norms.  A few changes that proved cost effective, like working at home (instead of paying for office space) might gain traction.  Most "essential" workers will continue to barely earn a living wage (or less).
 
2020-03-31 9:30:14 AM  
There have still been fewer deaths by Corona-virus total in the US than people who die in a car crash in the US - and it isn't even close yet.

I mean, yeah, Corona sucks.  But let's have some perspective.
 
2020-03-31 9:31:42 AM  

SeaMan Stainz: On the bright side I have not heard anything about going to war in Iran in a while. So we've got that going for us which is nice.


yeah and the anti vaxxers have sorta STFU too which is also a plus.
 
2020-03-31 9:32:05 AM  

ParanoidRodent: AloysiusSnuffleupagus: 9/11 happened and we lost our goddamn minds.  After this, I'm pretty certain we'll learn nothing and not change anything that's being exposed as a big problem.  Sick leave, part-time and gig-workers getting the shaft in all this, Medicare for All, income inequality, food security, abusive landlords, child care, public transportation- both as a vector of disease transmission and as essential infrastructure, and that doesn't even get into the health care system issues.  No pandemic plan, no pandemic response, lack of transparency and/or outright lies by officials about what's going on, lack of domestic production capacity for critical pandemic response goods (medicines, PPE... and even though we make vents, the ramp-up response was bungled), red tape in the face of a war effort, what the hell happened with the testing, helicopters of cash going to the wrong things (where's the $100B to develop a vaccine??????)  and on and on.

Some countries will make changes after this.  In the US, given the paralyzed political system, odds are that the pandemic gets spunk off as a fluke event after the fact and much returns to pre-pandemic norms.  A few changes that proved cost effective, like working at home (instead of paying for office space) might gain traction.  Most "essential" workers will continue to barely earn a living wage (or less).


Spun off*

Bloody autocorrect
 
2020-03-31 9:32:45 AM  
OOOOOOO its a stupid comparison time; lets have fun shall we??

Heart disease knocks off 650k/year
Cancer knocks off 600k/year
"Unintentional injuries" toss 170k/year into the bin
Chronic lung malfunctions kick another 160k/year in the bin
Brain plumbing malfunctions pull another 150k/year into the abyss
Memory loss forgot about 121k a year
Diabeetus is 84k overly sugared bodies on the pile
Pisser plumbing failure claims 50k a year
and rounding it out we have biting the bullet at 47k a year

But no guys, we gotta compare everything to one single event, it was super duper bad
 
2020-03-31 9:33:22 AM  
So what you're saying is that the country is shut and the economy is toast when the monthly death toll is lower than that from road traffic collisions? Seems worthwhile.


Statistics in meaningless isolation are fun!
 
2020-03-31 9:33:32 AM  
Father_Jack:

yeah and the anti vaxxers have sorta STFU too which is also a plus.

They absolutely farking haven't. They're already warning people against taking any future COVID vaccine, and they keep tying it to 5G. If you feel the need to investigate this yourself, have some advil or your preferred headache relief on hand, and browse /r/shiatmomgroupssay
 
2020-03-31 9:34:55 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: Farking Clown Shoes: Purple_Urkle: Covid-19 isn't finished, it's going to kill an entire 9/11 attack worth of Americans, every day, very soon.

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But Trumpy says if we get out of this with less than 200,000 dead, he's done a great job!

DRINK!


Weird that people can't stop talking about a guy who is in the news every single day. And by weird, I mean not weird.
 
2020-03-31 9:35:22 AM  
Gonna take a long while to hit the body count of the aftermath of the 9/11 events.

Which is anywhere from hundreds of thousands to millions depending on who you count as casualties.
 
2020-03-31 9:35:25 AM  

dittybopper: waxbeans: dothemath: And more Americans were killed last year by overdose than were killed in the Vietnam War.

Yeah but that was profitable

And a meaningless comparison.  The population of the US back in 1970 was 205.1 million people.   Today it's 331 million people.   This is why you use rates instead of raw numbers.


This is why people with an IQ higher than a 3rd grader would not compare deaths due to a terrorist attack with a pandemic...
 
2020-03-31 9:35:43 AM  
....but her emails!!!!
 
2020-03-31 9:37:26 AM  
If the bloated, impotent farkstick in the White House is "successful" it will be like a 9/11 in every single state.
 
2020-03-31 9:38:46 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Covid-19 isn't finished, it's going to kill an entire 9/11 attack worth of Americans, every day, very soon.


Maybe worth remembering that roughly 11,500 Americans die every day anyway and that CV overwhelming takes those who are terminal ill or very old. The number dying from CV who would not have been expected to die soon anyway is very much lower.
 
2020-03-31 9:41:11 AM  

dittybopper: Gubbo: Quickly. Which unaffiliated country should be invaded in retaliation.

You've lost the last few. I think you need somewhere small and defenseless. Is Grenada still available?

Duchy of Grand Fenwick.


They have the bomb.
 
2020-03-31 9:41:53 AM  

dittybopper: And a meaningless comparison. The population of the US back in 1970 was 205.1 million people. Today it's 331 million people. This is why you use rates instead of raw numbers.


shut up.
 
2020-03-31 9:43:05 AM  
Asbestos kills as many Americans per year as the entire War of 1812 did.

(Not against the War of 1812.  If it wasn't for that, we may not have Plattsburg).
 
2020-03-31 9:43:53 AM  

jfclark27: This is why people with an IQ higher than a 3rd grader would not compare deaths due to a terrorist attack with a pandemic...


[ Family Guy ] ▶ Lois - 9 ... 11
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