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(PennLive)   Our fantastic health care system in the US is forcing hard choices for COVID-19 victims. Do they go to the hospital and face crippling bills or do they die at home?   (pennlive.com) divider line
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2020-03-26 11:11:37 AM  
Or realize you have nothing to lose and go get some payback from the folks who killed you and millions of others to make a buck?

France knew what to do to fix things fast and for real : they got the guillotines out.
 
2020-03-26 11:20:52 AM  

lolmao500: France knew what to do to fix things fast and for real : they got the guillotines out.


A few weeks ago there were a few Farkers who were saying that the French Revolution happened only because of a famine and it had nothing to do with wealth disparity and systemic oppression of poor people. I wonder if they've learned anything since then.
 
2020-03-26 11:21:41 AM  

lolmao500: Or realize you have nothing to lose and go get some payback from the folks who killed you and millions of others to make a buck?

France knew what to do to fix things fast and for real : they got the guillotines out.


Yet another person woefully ignorant of just who exactly was chewed up by Madame Guillotine.
 
2020-03-26 11:40:29 AM  

Gubbo: lolmao500: Or realize you have nothing to lose and go get some payback from the folks who killed you and millions of others to make a buck?

France knew what to do to fix things fast and for real : they got the guillotines out.

Yet another person woefully ignorant of just who exactly was chewed up by Madame Guillotine.


Eh a bunch of innocent folks were guillotined... but it scared the rich class into backing off for a while.
 
2020-03-26 12:01:54 PM  

lolmao500: Gubbo: lolmao500: Or realize you have nothing to lose and go get some payback from the folks who killed you and millions of others to make a buck?

France knew what to do to fix things fast and for real : they got the guillotines out.

Yet another person woefully ignorant of just who exactly was chewed up by Madame Guillotine.

Eh a bunch of innocent folks were guillotined... but it scared the rich class into backing off for a while.


It ended the "ancien regime", and replaced them with a representative democracy headed by an emperor.  As it should be.

/i do have a conflict of interest here though
 
2020-03-26 12:05:17 PM  
Getting back to the subject at hand, there's one benefit to dying at home in PA.  You can put the body in the living room on dry ice for up to 3 days.  That would look really cool.
 
2020-03-26 12:06:30 PM  
This showing the world the truth about the United States. We've slipped to third world status.
 
2020-03-26 12:35:47 PM  
I just want you guys to know that I'll die at home. So if you never hear me biatching about how farked up our country is anymore, it's because it killed me.
Just like I knew it would someday.
 
2020-03-26 12:36:16 PM  
You want to live? Go to the hospital.

Then, file bankruptcy. I am sure your family would rather you here, than not.
 
2020-03-26 12:36:38 PM  
Toss a cough to your republican, o valley of corvid, oh valley of corvid  ooooooo 🎶
 
2020-03-26 12:36:43 PM  
The funny thing is, there IS socialism in the US. It just happens that only works for big companies and their owners.
 
2020-03-26 12:37:09 PM  

the_innkeeper: You want to live? Go to the hospital.

Then, file bankruptcy. I am sure your family would rather you here, than not.


She was Bulgarian too. Not really sure how effective collecting from foreign nationals really is anyway.
 
2020-03-26 12:37:17 PM  
Short answer? Yes.
 
2020-03-26 12:37:46 PM  
As long as poor people aren't claiming an extra $600 in unemployment insurance, who cares? Get back to work.

/ugh
 
2020-03-26 12:37:49 PM  
Yes but won't someone please think of the insurance industry?
 
2020-03-26 12:38:24 PM  
All the US Health Insurers are currently rated as a strong buy. They're confident they're going to make absolute bank this year and next.

So, yeah. You can die at home and give you money to your family and charity, or die in a hospital and give it to those assholes.
 
2020-03-26 12:40:53 PM  

lolmao500: Or realize you have nothing to lose and go get some payback from the folks who killed you and millions of others to make a buck?

France knew what to do to fix things fast and for real : they got the guillotines out.


When are you going to do more than talk about guillotines?  Talk talk talk talk.

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2020-03-26 12:41:32 PM  
"She didn't have insurance. She thought she might not be able to pay the bills," her son, Ludmil Velev, said Wednesday from his hospital bed at UPMC Presbyterian, where he has been treated for COVID-19 since Monday. "And being a foreigner, she was worried even more."

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2020-03-26 12:41:51 PM  
Raw Video: If You Get Sick, 'Die Quickly'
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2020-03-26 12:42:19 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Toss a cough to your republican, o valley of corvid, oh valley of corvid  ooooooo 🎶


It has been months since that was last stuck in my head.

And now I wish to strangle you.
 
2020-03-26 12:43:40 PM  
I don't have COVID19 but I do have something going on in my lungs. It's been going on for a couple months. I had something similar last year and it turned out to be pneumonia. Thing is in January I took a new job that is contract to hire. While being a contractor I have insurance but it suck balls, basically I pay 100% out of pocket until $6,0000. So I don't want to be seen until I get new insurance but I am coughing up more and more crap. I get converted April 1, and I don't know how long till new insurance kicks in. So I am getting a kick out of this headline.
 
Juc
2020-03-26 12:43:44 PM  
That's always been the choice for medicine in the USA.
I hope you guys start to treat medical treatment as a basic human right.
 
2020-03-26 12:44:23 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Toss a cough to your republican, o valley of corvid, oh valley of corvid ooooooo 🎶


What do crows, ravens, jays, etc. have to do with this? :p

/it's either be a boring pedant on Fark or completely lose my mind in this situation
//sorry, Fark, but pedantry it is. Maybe both?
 
2020-03-26 12:44:24 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Getting back to the subject at hand, there's one benefit to dying at home in PA.  You can put the body in the living room on dry ice for up to 3 days.  That would look really cool.


Oooh, yeah, kind of like a "Han Solo frozen in carbonite" thing.


/I would really like to get off this Black Mirror episode Stephen King novel now, please.
 
2020-03-26 12:44:49 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Toss a cough to your republican, o valley of corvid, oh valley of corvid  ooooooo 🎶


Bravo good human, bravo.

I applaud you and those that take their revenge upon you.... for while your destruction is deserved, it is a glorious reason to go.

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2020-03-26 12:45:01 PM  
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2020-03-26 12:45:28 PM  
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2020-03-26 12:46:05 PM  
Don't worry folks, the public option will fix everything. Just stay alive, crawl to the voting booth if you have to in November. 
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2020-03-26 12:46:33 PM  

Juc: That's always been the choice for medicine in the USA.
I hope you guys start to treat medical treatment as a basic human right.


Sorry, we can't do that. There were some Bernie Bros who were mean to people on the internet. You know how it goes.
 
2020-03-26 12:47:30 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: All the US Health Insurers are currently rated as a strong buy. They're confident they're going to make absolute bank this year and next.

So, yeah. You can die at home and give you money to your family and charity, or die in a hospital and give it to those assholes.


I kinda like the "go to the hospital" plan.

Overwhelming the insurance industry can help people realize that they are nothing more than a rent-seeking middleman. When a shiat-ton of people can't pay their bills, the hospitals will be running for help. 

Great.

Let's just make it official policy via M4A, or some other national mechanism.
 
2020-03-26 12:47:57 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Getting back to the subject at hand, there's one benefit to dying at home in PA.  You can put the body in the living room on dry ice for up to 3 days.  That would look really cool.


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Look at you with your fancy "dry ice". I say let the body decompose as nature intended. It sends a message.
 
2020-03-26 12:48:11 PM  

the_innkeeper: Overwhelming the insurance industry can help people realize that they are nothing more than a rent-seeking middleman. When a shiat-ton of people can't pay their bills, the hospitals will be running for help.


And Congress will bail them out!
 
2020-03-26 12:50:11 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: All the US Health Insurers are currently rated as a strong buy. They're confident they're going to make absolute bank this year and next.

So, yeah. You can die at home and give you money to your family and charity, or die in a hospital and give it to those assholes.


Anyone that thinks insurers are gonna make bank doesn't understand how insurance works. They make money when people buy insurance and don;t get sick. A pandemic where lots of people are going to get sick and require expensive treatment is bad for insurers.
 
2020-03-26 12:52:54 PM  

AeAe: Marcus Aurelius: Getting back to the subject at hand, there's one benefit to dying at home in PA.  You can put the body in the living room on dry ice for up to 3 days.  That would look really cool.--
Look at you with your fancy "dry ice". I say let the body decompose as nature intended. It sends a message.


But what if i want my body to decompose with a bunch of smoke coming off of it? And maybe a very slow drum roll or something.
 
2020-03-26 12:54:11 PM  

VanillaEnvelope: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: All the US Health Insurers are currently rated as a strong buy. They're confident they're going to make absolute bank this year and next.

So, yeah. You can die at home and give you money to your family and charity, or die in a hospital and give it to those assholes.

Anyone that thinks insurers are gonna make bank doesn't understand how insurance works. They make money when people buy insurance and don;t get sick. A pandemic where lots of people are going to get sick and require expensive treatment is bad for insurers.


They'll either ask for a bailout/direct reimbursement from the government or they will simply jack up insurance rates this year, all while laying off tons of people. Also, they'll probably deny tons of claims. Ta-daaa! Profits!
 
2020-03-26 12:56:20 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: the_innkeeper: You want to live? Go to the hospital.

Then, file bankruptcy. I am sure your family would rather you here, than not.

She was Bulgarian too. Not really sure how effective collecting from foreign nationals really is anyway.


A 78-year-old Bulgarian. The collection letters wouldn't be for very long, relatively speaking.
 
2020-03-26 12:56:53 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Getting back to the subject at hand, there's one benefit to dying at home in PA.  You can put the body in the living room on dry ice for up to 3 days.  That would look really cool.


Random morbid thought: I have an Uncle who used to own a beer distributor in downtown Philly. I do remember the walk-in refrigerators being obnoxiously huge and I'm sure they could temporarily store bodies without disturbing the clerks running in and out to grab cases of Yuengling or whatever for customers.

I guess PA has some built-in quirks to navigate this problem better than most.
 
2020-03-26 12:57:40 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: VanillaEnvelope: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: All the US Health Insurers are currently rated as a strong buy. They're confident they're going to make absolute bank this year and next.

So, yeah. You can die at home and give you money to your family and charity, or die in a hospital and give it to those assholes.

Anyone that thinks insurers are gonna make bank doesn't understand how insurance works. They make money when people buy insurance and don;t get sick. A pandemic where lots of people are going to get sick and require expensive treatment is bad for insurers.

They'll either ask for a bailout/direct reimbursement from the government or they will simply jack up insurance rates this year, all while laying off tons of people. Also, they'll probably deny tons of claims. Ta-daaa! Profits!


In other words, they'd follow the same plan that they were advised to do by Pete Buttigieg when he was working for McKinsey.
 
2020-03-26 12:58:43 PM  
If my mom has to be hospitalized tomorrow, I'd go into hundreds of thousands of debt even if the effort didn't save her.

No amount would be too high.

She is a wonderful person. Cares about everyone. Goes out of her way to help anyone who asks. She holds no grudges or animosity towards anyone.

I wish I could be like her.

She's my idol, my mentor & my greatest role model, as well as my best friend.

I can't comprehend life without her.
 
2020-03-26 12:59:20 PM  

Subtonic: leeksfromchichis: Toss a cough to your republican, o valley of corvid, oh valley of corvid  ooooooo 🎶

It has been months since that was last stuck in my head.

And now I wish to strangle you.


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You're welcome.
 
2020-03-26 12:59:58 PM  

AeAe: Marcus Aurelius: Getting back to the subject at hand, there's one benefit to dying at home in PA.  You can put the body in the living room on dry ice for up to 3 days.  That would look really cool.

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Look at you with your fancy "dry ice". I say let the body decompose as nature intended. It sends a message.


225* in lots of mesquite. Time depends on cut.

Honestly, though, we are *way* past "treat the patient" approaches and into "save the community."  We don't like to talk about that, but it's true.

But, you know, "small government" and "who needs scientists?" and "the CDC is pointless" and "why are we paying stupid CDC scientist government people to be in China?", right?

This would have been, at worst, a regional blip on the radar under a sane and competent administration.  Don't let people forget that -- and they will, when $1000 checks with Trump signatures and branding start showing up.
 
2020-03-26 1:00:43 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: the_innkeeper: Overwhelming the insurance industry can help people realize that they are nothing more than a rent-seeking middleman. When a shiat-ton of people can't pay their bills, the hospitals will be running for help.

And Congress will bail them out!


You missed the rest of the quote:

Great.

Let's just make it official policy via M4A, or some other national mechanism.


We can put some leverage on it: for every dollar of bailout they get, they fund a "no/under insurance coverage fund" for the hospital's patients
 
2020-03-26 1:01:45 PM  
I think I have appendicitis.  I'm so farked.
 
2020-03-26 1:02:20 PM  

VanillaEnvelope: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: All the US Health Insurers are currently rated as a strong buy. They're confident they're going to make absolute bank this year and next.

So, yeah. You can die at home and give you money to your family and charity, or die in a hospital and give it to those assholes.

Anyone that thinks insurers are gonna make bank doesn't understand how insurance works. They make money when people buy insurance and don;t get sick. A pandemic where lots of people are going to get sick and require expensive treatment is bad for insurers.


They have reinsurance for that, and they'll raise rates to cover it next year.
 
2020-03-26 1:02:52 PM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: I think I have appendicitis.  I'm so farked.


Get your ass to the emergency room instead of posting on Fark.
 
2020-03-26 1:02:58 PM  
I'm just glad No Wipe Wednesday is over... for this week
 
2020-03-26 1:03:54 PM  

the_innkeeper: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: the_innkeeper: Overwhelming the insurance industry can help people realize that they are nothing more than a rent-seeking middleman. When a shiat-ton of people can't pay their bills, the hospitals will be running for help.

And Congress will bail them out!

You missed the rest of the quote:

Great.

Let's just make it official policy via M4A, or some other national mechanism.

We can put some leverage on it: for every dollar of bailout they get, they fund a "no/under insurance coverage fund" for the hospital's patients


That's not terribly realistic, though, because there's too much money opposing M4A.
 
2020-03-26 1:03:55 PM  

the_innkeeper: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: the_innkeeper: Overwhelming the insurance industry can help people realize that they are nothing more than a rent-seeking middleman. When a shiat-ton of people can't pay their bills, the hospitals will be running for help.

And Congress will bail them out!

You missed the rest of the quote:

Great.

Let's just make it official policy via M4A, or some other national mechanism.

We can put some leverage on it: for every dollar of bailout they get, they fund a "no/under insurance coverage fund" for the hospital's patients


Or we could deny the bailout, seize the assets, convert the HQs into field hospitals (or morgues) and hang the C-level execs for good measure.

Look, we have to adjust to the crisis: I know we should burn down the HQs but they're likely we'll built, full of repurposable wiring and other infrastructure, and we need to think about the CO2 emissions that real justice would create.
 
2020-03-26 1:04:56 PM  

AeAe: Marcus Aurelius: Getting back to the subject at hand, there's one benefit to dying at home in PA.  You can put the body in the living room on dry ice for up to 3 days.  That would look really cool.

--
Look at you with your fancy "dry ice". I say let the body decompose as nature intended. It sends a message.


You definitely let the vultures feast on the corpse.  You just need to let it rest first.  3 days, then out to the back 40 with you.  You have to tie it down well though, or you'll upset the neighbors.
 
2020-03-26 1:05:21 PM  

jst3p: I don't have COVID19 but I do have something going on in my lungs. It's been going on for a couple months. I had something similar last year and it turned out to be pneumonia. Thing is in January I took a new job that is contract to hire. While being a contractor I have insurance but it suck balls, basically I pay 100% out of pocket until $6,0000. So I don't want to be seen until I get new insurance but I am coughing up more and more crap. I get converted April 1, and I don't know how long till new insurance kicks in. So I am getting a kick out of this headline.


Hang in there bro. I just got converted. The positive thing about CoVID-19 is that it has shown the rot caused by decades of neoliberalism. Millions of Americans have no medical insurance, millions more under-insured, no federal guaranteed paid sick leave, 60% of Americans can't afford $1000 emergency, children lost school lunches (their only food source), etc.
 
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