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(The National Interest)   There will soon be a drug shortage. On the positive side nobody could afford them anyways   (nationalinterest.org) divider line
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2020-03-19 3:51:31 AM  
I asked National to consider 30 day fills on prescriptions to help conserve what we have. Because I can only get so much. We're going to be in a world of sh*t.

I'm stocking up on insulin, inhalers, psych meds (because we are all insane) critical heart meds like Tikosyn. It's tough. I'm looking at the shelves trying to figure out what to make sure I have and I can do maybe 90 days on hand because of space  in fridges and shelves.

Also, supplies. Like nebulizer masks and anything like that. Try to extend what you can. Rinse and reuse unless you are infected. I already can't find a good supply of those kinds of supplies. What I can find is small quantities. The medical suppliers who used to pull from alternate warehouses are not doing that to prevent the spread from state to state. Some, at least.

The drug supply chain was already sh*t to begin with. If China is truly on the mend like they say they are, it might not be "shoot your bright or for their Lipitor" bad. However, I'm looking at India and Pakistan. They make a lot of meds there too.

Get what you can and try to conserve what you have without compromising your health. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist.

Good luck.
 
2020-03-19 7:59:48 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I asked National to consider 30 day fills on prescriptions to help conserve what we have. Because I can only get so much. We're going to be in a world of sh*t.

I'm stocking up on insulin, inhalers, psych meds (because we are all insane) critical heart meds like Tikosyn. It's tough. I'm looking at the shelves trying to figure out what to make sure I have and I can do maybe 90 days on hand because of space  in fridges and shelves.

Also, supplies. Like nebulizer masks and anything like that. Try to extend what you can. Rinse and reuse unless you are infected. I already can't find a good supply of those kinds of supplies. What I can find is small quantities. The medical suppliers who used to pull from alternate warehouses are not doing that to prevent the spread from state to state. Some, at least.

The drug supply chain was already sh*t to begin with. If China is truly on the mend like they say they are, it might not be "shoot your bright or for their Lipitor" bad. However, I'm looking at India and Pakistan. They make a lot of meds there too.

Get what you can and try to conserve what you have without compromising your health. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist.

Good luck.


We were talking about 30-day only at work yesterday.  Things are especially crappy for the next few days since the earthquake in SLC temporarily shut down the Amerisource Bergen warehouse.  We'll be getting stuff on Monday at the earliest.  People ask why we do a 5-day supply for partial fills when "you'll be getting it tomorrow".  shiat happens.

/no suboxone for four days
//many inhalers in short supply
///fark
 
2020-03-19 8:04:41 AM  
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WHAT AN IMMINENT DROOG SHORTAGE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
 
2020-03-19 8:16:00 AM  
One of the things the government should throw money and resources at as part of the virus response is helping US manufactures bring back some critical production from overseas, including pharmaceuticals.

In addition to supply chain security, it will add net new employment for people who will be needing jobs.
 
2020-03-19 8:16:38 AM  
My dealer told me supplies were just fine
 
2020-03-19 8:29:28 AM  
There's a lots of things to worry about now, this really isn't one of them.

Our free market economy WILL find a way to address almost any shortage in anything. We are experiencing a paradigm shift just now, much like post 911. It's a painful process and many things economical and socially are going to permanently change...
 
2020-03-19 8:44:33 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: /no suboxone for four days


I hear you. I have a GIGANTIC clinic on site and we can't send them to outside pharmacies. So far, i have what i need, but that one is going to be rough if I can't get it.

Inhalers Combivent/Striverdi/Stioloto

No can be found.
 
2020-03-19 8:52:08 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: One of the things the government should throw money and resources at as part of the virus response is helping US manufactures bring back some critical production from overseas, including pharmaceuticals.

In addition to supply chain security, it will add net new employment for people who will be needing jobs.



The government doesn't have to throw money so much as it must protect the nations businesses. It has to encourage the production machinery being built inside of the US, especially those related to vital strategic interests (same as for ships and weapons, we have to protect drugs and medical equipment among other things).

I would argue that we need something like the Jones Act to cover health care and other vital supplies.  If the items are to be sold in the US then the factory must exist inside of the US. Tariff all imports accordingly so that we can still access outside goods, but also so that local operations can be encouraged and remain competitive despite the higher labor costs.

Money collected in tariffs can be redirected to social programs, blunting the higher cost of living.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchan​t​_Marine_Act_of_1920

/Favored nation trade statuses should be reserved for strategic allies.
/Those that dick around and cause problems do not deserve special treatment.
 
2020-03-19 8:55:40 AM  
On Tuesday my doc told me to titrate off 2 more of the medications I've been on for my liver issues.  I can stop taking one at my discretion, and the other two were just a full stop (issue resolved, stop taking).

I'm still taking a prescription antacid pill for esophageal issues and a diuretic for fluid retention.  I have 90 days of both of these in the house, and that's all they will give me.

Doc said the end goal is to have me off everything but the antacid and a multivitamin by fall.  This time last year I was taking 10 plus medications a day that was someplace in the neighborhood of 14 pills a day, and 2 liquids.

It's nice to improve.  I mean really nice.   It took a LONG time to get here....
 
2020-03-19 9:10:39 AM  

NewportBarGuy: kittyhas1000legs: /no suboxone for four days

I hear you. I have a GIGANTIC clinic on site and we can't send them to outside pharmacies. So far, i have what i need, but that one is going to be rough if I can't get it.

Inhalers Combivent/Striverdi/Stioloto

No can be found.


We don't see scripts for those here, but Ventolin is in short supply, at least in my area (lots of plans here only cover brand).  I foresee lots of insurance calls for overrides or people using GoodRX for Proair/Proventil/generic.  Until those start running out.
 
2020-03-19 9:22:01 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: NewportBarGuy: kittyhas1000legs: /no suboxone for four days

I hear you. I have a GIGANTIC clinic on site and we can't send them to outside pharmacies. So far, i have what i need, but that one is going to be rough if I can't get it.

Inhalers Combivent/Striverdi/Stioloto

No can be found.

We don't see scripts for those here, but Ventolin is in short supply, at least in my area (lots of plans here only cover brand).  I foresee lots of insurance calls for overrides or people using GoodRX for Proair/Proventil/generic.  Until those start running out.


I bought 1,000 ProAir and that will only get me through maybe 60 days if we limit them...

It's going to be a mess. Good luck!!!
 
2020-03-19 10:10:17 AM  

RedRudy: There's a lots of things to worry about now, this really isn't one of them.

Our free market economy WILL find a way to address almost any shortage in anything. We are experiencing a paradigm shift just now, much like post 911. It's a painful process and many things economical and socially are going to permanently change...


Fark you. My husband takes critical life-sustaining drugs which are manufactured overseas and protected by 3 layers of patents in the US.

I used to work in pharma. The US can't just 'spring up' a pharmaceutical manufacturing site here because the free market says "GO".

FFS, everyone use some common sense. The reason why there isn't a pharma manufacturing center on each corner is because in order to protect patients, every product needs a robust and testable protocol, so that patients don't get under or over-dosed, that the compound is active when it leaves the line, that the pill or vial is strong enough to make it to its destination, that it stays sterile and intact for more than a few weeks in storage.

That's not even talking about efficacy all along the manufacturing and supply chain -- you might have the right amount of active chemical but something in the formulation protocol deactivated it.

Suppose you already have a protocol in another manufactory -- now you're trying to make a brand new center to chug out all the drugs that are being made in Israel or India or whatever. You'll need to source raw materials, machinery, and train personnel.  You need to develop or establish the tests that you'll use to prove the drug is what you say it is. Then you have to prove along the entire chain that the existing protocol works with the materials you have, the new machines you have, and the newly trained personnel you have.

This is not something the free market can just pop up in a few months.
 
2020-03-19 10:14:54 AM  

NewportBarGuy: kittyhas1000legs: NewportBarGuy: kittyhas1000legs: /no suboxone for four days

I hear you. I have a GIGANTIC clinic on site and we can't send them to outside pharmacies. So far, i have what i need, but that one is going to be rough if I can't get it.

Inhalers Combivent/Striverdi/Stioloto

No can be found.

We don't see scripts for those here, but Ventolin is in short supply, at least in my area (lots of plans here only cover brand).  I foresee lots of insurance calls for overrides or people using GoodRX for Proair/Proventil/generic.  Until those start running out.

I bought 1,000 ProAir and that will only get me through maybe 60 days if we limit them...

It's going to be a mess. Good luck!!!


I'd recommend talking to your doctor about inhalable or oral steroids/anti-inflammatories if you're not already on them. Short-term it might reduce the need for ProAir. It does for me.
 
2020-03-19 10:15:44 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: NewportBarGuy: kittyhas1000legs: NewportBarGuy: kittyhas1000legs: /no suboxone for four days

I hear you. I have a GIGANTIC clinic on site and we can't send them to outside pharmacies. So far, i have what i need, but that one is going to be rough if I can't get it.

Inhalers Combivent/Striverdi/Stioloto

No can be found.

We don't see scripts for those here, but Ventolin is in short supply, at least in my area (lots of plans here only cover brand).  I foresee lots of insurance calls for overrides or people using GoodRX for Proair/Proventil/generic.  Until those start running out.

I bought 1,000 ProAir and that will only get me through maybe 60 days if we limit them...

It's going to be a mess. Good luck!!!

I'd recommend talking to your doctor about inhalable or oral steroids/anti-inflammatories if you're not already on them. Short-term it might reduce the need for ProAir. It does for me.


Oh, wait, you're a medication buyer. That's right.

Well, it goes for COPD/Asthma people.

/not an MD
 
2020-03-19 10:47:11 AM  
Will I still be able to get my Adderall and Xanax?

/It's like good cop - bad cop for my brain.
 
2020-03-19 11:16:13 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: This is not something the free market can just pop up in a few months.


Then perhaps letting almost all of the manufacturing capability for them go overseas wasn't really a good idea in the first place.
 
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