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2020-03-18 9:23:58 PM  
To be completely honest, subby, I did.
 
2020-03-18 9:24:03 PM  
So socialism is ok when we do it
 
2020-03-18 9:24:03 PM  
I read it as erections.
 
2020-03-18 9:24:29 PM  
It's just a matter of time.
 
2020-03-18 9:24:35 PM  

max_rebo_groupie: I read it as erections.


Stole the word right out of my mouth
 
2020-03-18 9:26:16 PM  
So if Trump winds up doing good things in terms of cash to people and eviction freezes, he might come out of this looking good. Kinda bad.

People like the president during a crisis.
 
2020-03-18 9:26:45 PM  
Seriously? As paranoid as I am about him cancelling the elections and I actually saw evictions? That's funny.
 
2020-03-18 9:27:07 PM  

lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.


Congress sets the date of the election, not the President. He can't change it
 
2020-03-18 9:27:16 PM  
Oh, he is for sure thinking about suspending elections.

If he whined non stop about how the Russia witch hunt and impeachment hoax stole three years of his presidency, you bet your ass he is going to try saying the China virus owes him time back too.
 
2020-03-18 9:28:54 PM  
Trump said at the briefing that he is activating the Federal Emergency Management Agency in all regions of the country to aid in the coronavirus response.

Some worst-human right wingers are going to go into apoplexy over that.
 
2020-03-18 9:29:21 PM  

Declassify Issue: max_rebo_groupie: I read it as erections.

Stole the word right out of my mouth


ew
 
2020-03-18 9:29:32 PM  

LandOfChocolate: lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.

Congress sets the date of the election, not the President. He can't change it


Who would stop him ?
 
2020-03-18 9:29:32 PM  
NO, subby, I didn;t.

And FTFA:
The Defense Production Act, enacted in 1950, allows the president to force American businesses to produce materials in the national defense, such as ventilators and medical supplies for health care workers.

Knowing Dumb Donnie as well as we all do, you just know he's gonna fark this up too, thinking that he can just force EVERY company to help. Like the guys at Cold Stone Creamery (for example) know how to manufacture ventilators. His line of "reasoning" will be on par with the "Still no cure for cancer..." morons who keep getting shiat greenlit around here...
 
2020-03-18 9:29:52 PM  
Trump is Darth Plagueis.
 
2020-03-18 9:29:56 PM  

Declassify Issue: max_rebo_groupie: I read it as erections.

Stole the word right out of my mouth


So it is time to start sucking each others dicks? I cant keep up on this...
 
2020-03-18 9:30:21 PM  

lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.


*dons tinfoil hat*

What if this whole thing was a set up to cancel the elections? It would explain the completely bungled response....
 
2020-03-18 9:31:32 PM  
This is a really shiatty article that just regurgitates what Trump said not what is actually happening. The ships will take months to prepare (they are only NOW starting), he won't actually use the defense authorization since "things aren't bad enough yet". And what federal law allows him to suspend evictions? I figure that would be up to the states.
 
2020-03-18 9:31:46 PM  
"The law, enacted in 1950, allows the president to force American businesses to produce materials in the national defense, such as ventilators and medical supplies for health care workers."

A few days ago a company that makes ventilators had said they hadn't received any new orders from the government yet.

I wonder if they've had any calls since then or if Trump just enacted this law to make it look like they're doing something.
 
2020-03-18 9:32:10 PM  
He has no authority to suspend evictions. None.

This is a power grab as subtle as it might be
 
2020-03-18 9:32:38 PM  

HairyOne: Declassify Issue: max_rebo_groupie: I read it as erections.

Stole the word right out of my mouth

So it is time to start sucking each others dicks? I cant keep up on this...


Is there ever not a good time?
 
2020-03-18 9:33:27 PM  

alienated: LandOfChocolate: lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.

Congress sets the date of the election, not the President. He can't change it

Who would stop him ?


Its a law enacted by Congress, with really no ambiguity

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presi​d​ential_Election_Day_Act

Feel free to baselessly speculate about what could happen, this is the internet after all, but I feel safe calling this one
 
2020-03-18 9:35:12 PM  

mithras_angel: To be completely honest, subby, I did.


Me too.
 
2020-03-18 9:35:33 PM  

cman: He has no authority to suspend evictions. None.

This is a power grab as subtle as it might be


Who's going to stop him? Even if the Supremes take up the case and rule against him....how many divisions does The Supreme Court have?
 
2020-03-18 9:36:08 PM  

Dafatone: So if Trump winds up doing good things in terms of cash to people and eviction freezes, he might come out of this looking good. Kinda bad.

People like the president during a crisis.


Not one that he helped create.
 
2020-03-18 9:36:29 PM  

Dafatone: So if Trump winds up doing good things in terms of cash to people and eviction freezes, he might come out of this looking good. Kinda bad.

People like the president during a crisis.


That's assuming landlords won't call in the back rent on May 1.
 
2020-03-18 9:36:59 PM  

alienated: LandOfChocolate: lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.

Congress sets the date of the election, not the President. He can't change it

Who would stop him ?


Any state that didn't feel like listening to him and holding their elections anyway
 
2020-03-18 9:37:06 PM  

Dafatone: So if Trump winds up doing good things in terms of cash to people and eviction freezes, he might come out of this looking good. Kinda bad.

People like the president during a crisis.


The tab keeps rolling, and so do late fees.

There's absolutely nothing saying people can't be evicted after it's suspended, when bills have piled up.
 
2020-03-18 9:39:05 PM  

iheartscotch: cman: He has no authority to suspend evictions. None.

This is a power grab as subtle as it might be

Who's going to stop him? Even if the Supremes take up the case and rule against him....how many divisions does The Supreme Court have?


At least five will vote against him

The bedrock of federalism is the separation of powers and its checks and balances

This is the kind of thing that is handled at state level. You dont go to a federal court for evictions. The President has no such authority to interfere in state matters.
 
2020-03-18 9:39:31 PM  

LandOfChocolate: alienated: LandOfChocolate: lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.

Congress sets the date of the election, not the President. He can't change it

Who would stop him ?

Its a law enacted by Congress, with really no ambiguity

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid​ential_Election_Day_Act

Feel free to baselessly speculate about what could happen, this is the internet after all, but I feel safe calling this one


Look, I know about that law, and many others. Have you not been paying attention to this regime ? I mean, hell, they break several laws every second . They have stacked a ton of courts, the DOJ acts as dumpys personal legal firm, and mitchy the turtle aint gonna do a damn thing. So, again- who would stop him ?
 
2020-03-18 9:39:38 PM  
Inconsolable...
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2020-03-18 9:39:46 PM  

inner ted: So socialism is ok when we do it


The right balance of socialism and capitalism is always OK.  The radicalized-right just don't understand that any better than the far-left does, and are far more rabid about it.

It appears that Trump is actually doing the right thing for a change.  We should give him credit to feed his narcissism when he does good so he can depend less on the people who feed it when he does terrible things.
 
2020-03-18 9:40:46 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Oh, he is for sure thinking about suspending elections.

If he whined non stop about how the Russia witch hunt and impeachment hoax stole three years of his presidency, you bet your ass he is going to try saying the China virus owes him time back too.


One more time. Hopefully you will get it.

THE PRESIDENT CANT SUSPEND THE ELECTION.

If something happens that made an election not happen, Pelosi would take the seat as per the 12th amendment until such time an election were held.

It's not going to happen. Wipe your chin.
 
2020-03-18 9:41:36 PM  

max_rebo_groupie: I read it as erections.


Glad I wasn't the only one.
 
2020-03-18 9:41:41 PM  

WeedBong420: Dafatone: So if Trump winds up doing good things in terms of cash to people and eviction freezes, he might come out of this looking good. Kinda bad.

People like the president during a crisis.

The tab keeps rolling, and so do late fees.

There's absolutely nothing saying people can't be evicted after it's suspended, when bills have piled up.


That's what I wonder.

So, you can't be evicted. That's good. But assuming you are being evicted because you can't pay your rent, what happens if you manage to catch up with your rent? Can they still evict you? Because that's what will happen.

I mean, it's good, because it will keep people off of the streets to some degree, but it's also bad, because the odds are that a lot of people are going to lose their jobs in the near future. Or at least be "laid off". And then they'll get behind on rent, and get evicted.

So, basically, is this about preventing disease, or is it about keeping people that have lost their jobs from losing their homes, or both?
 
2020-03-18 9:42:59 PM  
Populist leader seizes means of production.
 
2020-03-18 9:45:35 PM  

cman: iheartscotch: cman: He has no authority to suspend evictions. None.

This is a power grab as subtle as it might be

Who's going to stop him? Even if the Supremes take up the case and rule against him....how many divisions does The Supreme Court have?

At least five will vote against him

The bedrock of federalism is the separation of powers and its checks and balances

This is the kind of thing that is handled at state level. You dont go to a federal court for evictions. The President has no such authority to interfere in state matters.


Again, how many armored divisions does the Supreme Court have?

I completely agree that Donny doesn't have the constitutional authority. My question is: who's gonna to physically stop him? Capital police? The Secret Service? Who's going to stick their necks out?
 
2020-03-18 9:46:02 PM  

alienated: LandOfChocolate: alienated: LandOfChocolate: lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.

Congress sets the date of the election, not the President. He can't change it

Who would stop him ?

Its a law enacted by Congress, with really no ambiguity

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid​ential_Election_Day_Act

Feel free to baselessly speculate about what could happen, this is the internet after all, but I feel safe calling this one

Look, I know about that law, and many others. Have you not been paying attention to this regime ? I mean, hell, they break several laws every second . They have stacked a ton of courts, the DOJ acts as dumpys personal legal firm, and mitchy the turtle aint gonna do a damn thing. So, again- who would stop him ?


Its not a matter of who would stop him but who would listen to him. His words don't have the force of law.

The best he could do would be to impose martial law but even then its unclear what effect it would have on an election
 
2020-03-18 9:46:33 PM  

LandOfChocolate: lilbjorn: It's just a matter of time.

Congress sets the date of the election, not the President. He can't change it


His term still ends on January 20, 2021, at Noon EST without an election.  Congress ends before that, BUT, the House Speaker doesn't need to be an elected member.  So, on her way out, Nancy could name Hillary as Speaker for the next term, and not a damn thing anybody can do about it.
 
2020-03-18 9:47:05 PM  

paulleah: Officer Barrelroll: Oh, he is for sure thinking about suspending elections.

If he whined non stop about how the Russia witch hunt and impeachment hoax stole three years of his presidency, you bet your ass he is going to try saying the China virus owes him time back too.

One more time. Hopefully you will get it.

THE PRESIDENT CANT SUSPEND THE ELECTION.

If something happens that made an election not happen, Pelosi would take the seat as per the 12th amendment until such time an election were held.

It's not going to happen. Wipe your chin.


One more time. Hopefully you will get it.

THE PRESIDENT CANNOT RECEIVE EMOULUMENTS.

See how well that works?
 
2020-03-18 9:48:08 PM  
I have nothing nasty to say about this.
 
2020-03-18 9:48:39 PM  

realmolo: WeedBong420: Dafatone: So if Trump winds up doing good things in terms of cash to people and eviction freezes, he might come out of this looking good. Kinda bad.

People like the president during a crisis.

The tab keeps rolling, and so do late fees.

There's absolutely nothing saying people can't be evicted after it's suspended, when bills have piled up.

That's what I wonder.

So, you can't be evicted. That's good. But assuming you are being evicted because you can't pay your rent, what happens if you manage to catch up with your rent? Can they still evict you? Because that's what will happen.

I mean, it's good, because it will keep people off of the streets to some degree, but it's also bad, because the odds are that a lot of people are going to lose their jobs in the near future. Or at least be "laid off". And then they'll get behind on rent, and get evicted.

So, basically, is this about preventing disease, or is it about keeping people that have lost their jobs from losing their homes, or both?


In my state, for a regular nonpayment of rent residential eviction, you have to post a ten day demand to the tenant and they have to fail to pay within the ten days to be able to kick them out. As long as they pay the past due rent, penalties, etc., no matter what it is, within the time requirement they can stay in the place.
 
2020-03-18 9:48:43 PM  

iheartscotch: Who's going to stick their necks out?


This guy. All of them...
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2020-03-18 9:49:11 PM  

cman: He has no authority to suspend evictions. None.

This is a power grab as subtle as it might be


Technically, I think he could suspend anything that was through HUD.  That's a few million people at least.  A lot more millions, though, would be SOL.
 
2020-03-18 9:50:08 PM  
BuT sUsPeNdInG tHe ElEcTiOnS wOuLd Be AgAiNsT tHe LaW
 
2020-03-18 9:51:44 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: paulleah: Officer Barrelroll: Oh, he is for sure thinking about suspending elections.

If he whined non stop about how the Russia witch hunt and impeachment hoax stole three years of his presidency, you bet your ass he is going to try saying the China virus owes him time back too.

One more time. Hopefully you will get it.

THE PRESIDENT CANT SUSPEND THE ELECTION.

If something happens that made an election not happen, Pelosi would take the seat as per the 12th amendment until such time an election were held.

It's not going to happen. Wipe your chin.

One more time. Hopefully you will get it.

THE PRESIDENT CANNOT RECEIVE EMOULUMENTS.

See how well that works?


The emoluments clause is vague enough and without enough settled case law that he can drag it out through the legal system

The election day law is pretty clear and his term ends with or without an election
 
2020-03-18 9:53:42 PM  
This is sort of like when he banned bump stocks for firearms. He is, for the benefit of not looking like a farking monster, doing something about the current issue.

It won't last... he's incapable of long term empathy.
 
2020-03-18 9:54:59 PM  
Suspending elections will happen when the second wave of Covid-19 comes in September.
 
2020-03-18 10:01:13 PM  
Get ready for Republicans to embrace socialism more than they already do and won't admit. Lmao
 
2020-03-18 10:03:30 PM  

paulleah: Officer Barrelroll: Oh, he is for sure thinking about suspending elections.

If he whined non stop about how the Russia witch hunt and impeachment hoax stole three years of his presidency, you bet your ass he is going to try saying the China virus owes him time back too.

One more time. Hopefully you will get it.

THE PRESIDENT CANT SUSPEND THE ELECTION.

If something happens that made an election not happen, Pelosi would take the seat as per the 12th amendment until such time an election were held.

It's not going to happen. Wipe your chin.


I said he was thinking about it, not that he could do it.

Go lick a window.
 
2020-03-18 10:06:38 PM  

inner ted: So socialism is ok when we do it


Suspending HUD evictions on subsidized housing until May isn't socialism. We aren't giving people in need anything more. When they lose their jobs, they will have a month to prepare for homelessness. If by some good bootstrappy fortune they can scrape together the back pay they owe, and pay it on time, they won't lose the roof over their head. But realistically, most of them probably will, because the poor usually work the kind of service jobs that will be absolutely wrecked by this depression.
 
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